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What's the difference between a street and track pad? Why can't you drive with track pads on the street? Is it noise or they don't stop well without being warmed up?

If I track my car every month can I not use track pads daily if I don't care about noise and just brake earlier or use engine braking?

I have used street pads/rotors/dot 4 fluid on the track before and they got worn through extremely fast and I lost all brakes after like 20 minutes of nonstop laps
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>>28886400
>they don't stop well without being warmed up
meant to be this. but can't you get pads that are rated for both street and track use? stuff like ebc bluestuffs or dixcel z-type
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>>28886400
Sounds like you need bigger rotors to dissipate the heat better. Adding some brake cooling ducts probably wouldn't hurt either.
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>>28886458
Aren't you limited in rotor size by the size of your wheel? I could get better/slotted rotors though.

>>28886440
yes but I don't know how good they are on track, they may only be slightly better than street pads and potentially worst of both worlds.
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>>28886400
Noise + Rotor Wear.

The noise is akin to a freight train or a schoolbus stopping right next to your ear. Its cute for the first week and really fucking annoying after. The brakes only quiet down when you get them hot
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>>28886400
>Why can't you drive with track pads on the street?
You can.
I drive to the track with my full track pads.
Track brake pads have very high levels of friction even when cold. But turbo high wear.
If the brakes aren't hot, you're not getting the pad transfer layer that keeps you from eating rotors.
Sure they squeek and dust like mad.
But the brakes will still work.

Just have street pads and track pads.
Swap them out in-between events
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>>28886400
you can drive track pads on the street, just use carbotech endurance racing compounds. they will be noisier than street pads.
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>>28886440
dixcel z-type are a good dual use pad, but won’t be great on track if you have higher power/weight/poor cooling. only rated for 850C I believe, but still much better than a lot of street/track dual use pads.
>t. i have them on my car
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>>28886400
You can drive in the street with Race pads.
Going to eat rotors and make a dust storm though.
Most Race pads have corrosive brake dust, so you have to wash the car/wheels after any track day or long drive.

People usually have street and track pads.
I use Hawk HPX pads for Autocross
Raybestos ST47/45 pads for track.
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>>28887245
very useful info thanks. had them on my cressida but never took the opportunity to hoon it on a track even though i wanted to. did lots of mountain road hooning and they handled that very well. it was also pretty cool seeing the front brake dust shields having a fairly big air director/deflector routing air to the back of the rotor. doubt it did much but cool nonetheless.
will keep that in mind if i ever get another car that can take these pads.
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>>28887582
Anon, back roads will never get even basic street pads to the point of fade.
HPS pads are good to 800F
Idk ur ass is asking about track pads.
Those start working above 500F.
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>>28886400
>they don't stop well without being warmed up?
Is not that they won't stop well is that it'll be hard to modulate at low speeds when cold, when cold they'll feel like an on and off switch. The harder material makes them fade less when hot. They also eat more rotor life than street pads so measure your rotors and keep them within spec if you do run track pads
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>>28887588
either my old pads or rotors were absolute bottom of the barrel rubbish because i definitely had some fade on the way back home. it got very interesting experiencing fade for the first time coming up to a set of lights.
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>>28886400
>street pads
Wear down quickly under heavy use however can effectively slow the car when cold.

>sport pads
Fulfill street requirements, maybe slightly less efficient when cold however are much more capable under heavy braking and occasional track use.

>track pads
Extremely durable, can suffer extreme use before wearing down or experience brake fade however need to be warmed up before performing well

Id recommend sport pads anon.
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>>28886400
track pad does not work till it's hot. it's like driving with no brake booster when cold.
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>>28886400
It's all about temperature range, just like tires, a regular ass ceramic pad is awesome for regular street driving when pads and rotors are cold, the bite is crazy and because the pads are soft, they don't eat up rotors, or make noise human ears can hear as a loud screech despite how much friction is happening, on the other hand you take a metallic race pad, the things don't work that great at all at cold temps, the harder compound eats rotors which makes brake dust shoot out, as well as give the most noise, that's why track cars pull up and the pads go reeeeeee, it's made to be used for high temps, but if you're a track guy, use them because a ceramic pad will straight up stop working when it gets really hot

I personally would recommend something like Powerstop Z26, carbotech, or some sort of sport pad that is a higher temp ceramic infused material that doesn't dust like crazy but you can beat on it a little.



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