What's the absolute cheapest cost to own and drive CAR (not motorcycle) you can find and keep running that would fit 2 people and carry groceries pic unrel obv
>>2889011649cc moped if you live where they don't require registration
>>28890116Used Mirage or Hyundai accent. I have a 6 speed 2012 accent I picked up for $300. Going on year 4 of daily driving 100 km/day.. I bought a complete parts car for $400 after I hit a deer.
>>28890116There's no specific model. Whatever is available on your local craigslist/facebook for under $500.
>>28890140true but gas mileage and maintenance is to consider here, if you have a $500 bmw 5 series vs a $5000 geo metro it still wouldn't be cheaper to have the bmw
Vulcan 4th gen Taurus. I did nothing to that car over 275k other than oil and trannyjanny genderfluid changed of the autotrafic. Sure the fuel guage never worked and the front springs both broke off a coil so it self stanced but it still worked and drove just fine. I even hit a deer and just got a gold hood from one of the many 150k mile cars with bad autotragics in the junkyard except it was metallic light paper bag color and not the 2000s ferd jewish racing gold but whatever.
>>28890144>the front springs both broke off a coil so it self stancedI'm not shitting you. These things did this. Both of mine went sometime after 200k and it leveled itself out with negative camber. I remember seeing the broken coil hanging on one of the struts once and then it was gone and somebody else problem on the road.
>>2889011694-96 GM B/D body with an LT1Or94 EG Civic HatchIf you know, you know.If you need a truck, then throw a dart at 90s standard cab japanese pickup trucks like hardbodys, mighty maxes, Mazda rangers, etc
>>28890152I haven't seen an EG civic on the road in at least 5 years. I scrapped my 2000 SI in 2014 because rust had completely fucked it beyond repair
>>28890152>cries in rustbelt
Jelly bean F150. These things are cheap and very long lived. Even in the rust belt they hold up and look decent (body rust wise) when 1/2 ton GMT800s have vanished or turned into nurgle plage deamons. I still see a lot of the 2500 GMT800s but those aren't cheap.
Toyota Yaris Hybrid was ranked the cheapest car ever per km in a Finnish car magazines 60k kilometer test that has been doing those with same methodology for decades.High mpg, reliable technology, low depreciation, low initial price.
>>28890166but the hybrid system can't be cheap to fix? 60 k kilometers is only a couple years
>>28890163They absolutely do not hold up rust wise. One of the worst actually. Most of them rusted out here 15 years ago.
>>28890173I live in the rust belt and see a lot of them and they all look like picrel with 250k miles
>>28890206>rockers rusting
>>28890212This is what the average GMT800 looks like. They also suffer from a frame flaw that will banana the bed into the cab but only on the 1500s. The 2500+ are beasts i see regularly as farm trucks.
>>28890116If in europe, a golf 4/audi with 1.9 tdi engine or a 2000s renault with the 1.5 dci will doIf in the us, i have no clue but id assume some late 90s early 2000s camry/corolla.
This is what a same year/milage Ram looks like
Jelly beans are cheap they bodies and frames hold up well to the salt belt.
>>28890213im not gonna lie i live outside the rust belt and really only travel among the rust belt and i see gmt 800s and 400s outnumber all the other similar aged trucks like 10x over. after that i see the 2nd gen cummins and aero nose fords. not counting rangers though there are shitloads of those.But ive spent some time in NYC area and even there i saw gmt 800s around
>>28890220that will just be >>28890219in a few years
>>28890206You aren't north or east enough then. We were regularly scrapping these 10+ years ago with broken frames. Just sent a '14 f150 to be scrapped last week because the frame was rusted out. Rockers, cab corners and bedsides had already been replaced. I regularly see 12th gen f150s that are complete rot boxes. Can't remember the last time I saw a jellybean f150 on the road.
>>28890224Even starting to see aluminum f150s with frame for issues
>>28890224That's because they use boxed meme frames. Old trucks use a channel. The F150s didn't start using boxed frames until 2004. When did GM start using boxed frames? I see GMT800 1500s with bad frames for sale locally. We're they the 1st modern halfton to use one?
>>28890221>aero nose fords80-96 are nearly extinct and only around now because some have been saved now that they are considered cool but are also now meme taxed. Jelly beans are hated for how ugly the minivan front end is so people throw them away but they are basically immortal. No one proudly drives a jelly bean so you dont see them on the road during the day. They are almost exclusively driven by turbo poors working off shifts or as a work truck/spare vehicle to a newer truck.
>>28890235>>28890244The amount of 73 - 96 Ford's I've owned, parted or worked on with rusted out broken frames would say otherwise. Actually doing a frame up on a 96 f150 right now. Started with a Southern frame because the original was really thinThey all rot. Comes down more to maintenance and care, undercoating and miles in the salt. Not brand. Except the early Yota frames. They were exceptionally bad.
>>28890116>pic unrel obvActually, even factoring in fuel costs you're already looking at about the cheapest thing to keep on the road. Very easy to work on yourself, too, not that anything in the motor goes bad.You already know the answer otherwise, and it's the cheapest '90s-'00s Toyota or Honda without astronomical mileage that you can afford. Just watch out for automatics in the Y2K-era Hondas like the Accord, I trust those transmissions less than a 250k mile 4L60E with it's original oil.>>28890159I think I've only seen one or two in the past year, and they both were in pristine condition, completely bone stock and rocking antique plates. It was nice to see them as such condition but it really made me realize that these once entirely disposable cars are already starting to become rare.
>>28890244>No one proudly drives a jelly beanyou might want to take that back. I love mine. I don't live in the rust belt so most of this convo doesn't apply to me but it's been a very solid vehicle.
>>28890163>I still see a lot of the 2500 GMT800s but those aren't cheap.The non Duramaxes are. You can get a not rotted to fuck specimen for ~$5k. Also look out for the 2500 Suburbans and Yukon XL's. They don't get beat on nearly as hard as a pickup variant and most people don't like SUV's so they tend to go a little cheaper. Yes these are all gas pigs but like the other guy said the operating cost per mile is super low on trucks like these even with the shitty mileage.
Pic related cost me $800 and it averages around 40mpg.
>>28890116Early 2000s Honda Civic 4 cylinder. Cheap, reliable, fuel efficient, parts are cheap and still plentiful.
>>28890116do not listen to any of these truckchuds trying to sell you on shitbox pickup trucks that are rusted straight through go find a civic, tercel, corolla (ultimate choice) that isnt completely hammered and it will take all your abuse.specifically picrel mid-late 90s corollas you could probably drive until you die and never even do an oil change. i have 2 friends that have literally completely trashed these things but they never die.
>>28890468>>28890507You people must live not in the rust belt or the third world because these types of cars do not exist anymore. If trucks in your area are rusting in half good fucking luck finding a old unibody jap car that still has metal left on it.
>>28890520>You people must live not in the rust belt because these types of cars do not exist anymoreWhere do you live that you can't find a '90s Honda or Toyota Anon?
>>28890520>You people must live not in the rust beltNo, I live in the south. I wouldn't buy anything from the rust belt.
>>28890524The rust belt... No you don't live in the rust belt just because you get some lake effect bullshit once a year. 90's Hondas were mostly all riced out and destroyed. Stock 90's Hondas and Toyotas rust away decades ago. >>28890542If you live in the south with cars like these you got a different can of worms to worry about. Have fun getting your shit nigged every week.
>>28890116I've been doing pretty good with an 06 aveo as a work beater
>>28890370>Actually, even factoring in fuel costs you're already looking at about the cheapest thing to keep on the road In terms of parts it's pretty simple, but are you sure? I get about 14 to 15 mpg>I trust those transmissions less than a 250k mile 4L60E with it's original oil.Now that's saying something having replaced mine at 270k last year
>>28890524Eastern Canada. 90s imports rusted away 15+ years ago. All that's left is a handful of pristine examples that were meticulously looked after that are completely meme taxed and a handful of completely clapped pieces of shit.
>>28890224My dad's driving a 2003 F150 and I have a '96 F150 that's done all 151k miles year round in Wisconsin
>>28890116miata
>>28891317What groceries are you carrying in a miata? Besides condoms, astroglide, and an assortment of cucumbers
>>28891508you must be a big lumbering fat fuck if you can't fit groceries for two in a miata
>>28890116Look for a Pontiac Vibe. It is a Toyota Matrix (the hatchback version of the Corolla) but branded as a Pontiac.
>>28891541What are you going shopping every day?
>>28891892No, every 1-2 weeks just like most people.
Ford Focus or Fiesta. Manual with the N/A version. Will last forever. The automatics 2012-2018 can last up to 180k before the transmission goes terminal with the newest TCM from Ford. Automatics 2011 and below last forever. Average mpg combined is something like 32mpg. If you can get the turbo diesel then you're golden.
>>28892008I'm guessing that you're OP.How about some fucking feedback, or are we just wasting our time in another bullshit thread..
>>28892191I'm not OP, >>28891317 was my first post in this thread.
>>28892023This but make sure its a 1st gen with a ztec. The one I had is still going and I sold it at 220k. It was an autotragic though. Fuckin thing would always upshot way too soon and you could never get the zetec to rev up and come alive because the trans would always run away into a higher gear. Once in top gear th engine could wake up and it pulled pretty good for a 20+ year old 2.0L. With a manual you could keep it in that RPM range all the time. I hate the autotragic antichrist.
>>28892008That ain't 2 weeks of groceries
>>28892229see the text in>>28891541
>>28892196Sorry, my bad.
>>28892413I appreciate the apology anon, rare to see such maturity here.
>>28890116Tesla Model 3, no reason to consoom goyfuel anymore
>>288901164a e100 corolla >>28890143don't get a geo metro, when the PCM disintegrates and corrupts the unobtainable roms congrats you're finding a super rare carb manifold, bike carbs (bye mpg) or diy tune megasquirt. wheels are also retarded pattern only shared with some hondas and kias>>2889024487-96 suck complete ass, instead of buying a truck which could have the dogshit 4.2 or 4r70, get a expedition or navigator which all had the 5.4 and 4r100. Gmt800 Tahoes and burbs are easy to find but you will be learning to rebuild that 4l60e yourself or swapping an 80e(not that hard) >>28891631New Toyotas are fine but when the engine goes it's literally not worth fixing, they cost more than another fucking car
>>28890562>Have fun getting your shit nigged every week.I don't live near nogs. I don't lock my doors at night.
>>28890116Can we get you a higher paying job instead?There is a minimum you must pay to have a reliable car. Less than that will lead to suffering.If you can’t meet that, get out of the country while you can
>>28890116anything stellantis/french 1,6 diesel van. engine runs on farts and dreams while still not being the slowest on the highway. the rest might rattle apart and not work but its mostly bc its previous tradie driver never had time to fix it. give it a weekend of fiddling and its good to go.
>>28894113>whats the cheapest car?>hehe you're too broke for it
>>28891541>he buys bottled water
>>28892231You're living off water, glade and protein shakes for 2 weeks at a time?
>>28890116Toyota Prius
>>28894674Did you expect a Miata owner to not be gay?
>>28890116If you got a burban with ten woofers then your system it must bang
>>28890122>CAR (not motorcycle)>recommends mopedCan ANYONE on this fucking board fucking read
>>28890116cheapest i ever got was a '89 a ford E250 7,3 idi van, paid 180€ for it. needed lots of work obviously.second cheapest and more realisticly was a citroen berlingo for 600€. seller said it had fucked up transmission, me and my brother hooked up the linkage and drove it home. an ebay kit of linkage fixed it.
