Welcome to the Auto Vidya General, the thread for discussion of racing and driving games.Previous thread >>28880357>Wikihttps://get-good.net>MumbleIP: mumble.get-good.netPort: 64738Password: 4ch>Chathttps://chat.get-good.net>Equipment Guidehttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uLKMbKwweUZ3QvFeNs8UeycZbDyo0McxGj7T6uTaTNoDon't forget to participate in the Automation/BeamNG event (deadline extended check doc).>Check the doc for the latest info. We're currently racing Micras in AC on Saturdays, rallycross in AMS on Sunday, plus round 2 of AC hillclimb on April 5thhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vlVjNh8r6o_KYUFHf7Hcp8ZaYS5lsEZwFvTeu_K_c1Q/edit?gid=2067389525>We're decompiling the classic PC game Whiplash and rebuilding it for modern hardware! The game is currently playable (with a few bugs). Check out the GitHub:https://github.com/Zizin13/ROLLER
>>28891647
so what’s the state of PMR?worth a download?
>>28891647can somebody other than norv make a new thread
no ovg and racing in general is dead
>>28891724worth it for this alone
>pmr was able to get all the current gt500 cars but iracing couldn't because teams were too scared to give out the datamakes me wonder how accurate the pmr version of these cars will be
>>28891893not very
VR can kill you
>>28891982ridge racer 8 looking good
>>28891982I love the SRT Tomahawk and how PD does absolutely nothing to stop it from breaking the physics. I bet they use it as a test mule for their aero tech
Tell me why should I play AssEvo if I'm not interested in multiplayer faggotry.
>>28892180Laser scans without iRenting, better graphics with less setup autism than standard AC.
>>28892185>better graphicskek it doesnt even have particles
>BREAKINGwe positive now!!
>>28892197Why should I play it instead of any other sim?
>>28892201because its free right now
>>28892197so it went from shit to mediocredoes it still have that nasty pcars2/ams2 physics
>>28892212just wait until it reaches PMR 5.0
I tried PMR and am now uninstalling PMR.
>>28892185That's all?
>play gtr2>fun>get sad because it feels like i'm living in the past
>>28892180AssEvo is cool in multiplayer. I like hanging out on tourists farts servers
I installed a GT7 HUD for Assetto and I now enjoy the game way more
>>28892321>we have gran turismo at home
>>28892314this. i like driving the absolute slowest car and block the road
>>28892197Simracers really accept anything, most submissive bitches i've ever seen
Where is Kaz now? Need Kaz tracker
>>28892321"Bro play asseto its way better than simcades like gt">GT hud>GT tracks>car models ripped straight out of gt>so many handling mods you have to trust the modders that it is realisticgreat superior sim you got there
>bro play iracing its way better than simcades like gtftfy
>>28892565>>28892332I love GT7 and making AC a tiny bit more like it is a great thing. seethe, dilate, cope
>>28892664>>28892667>>28892668https://youtu.be/TLqL_68JPec?si=T2zEmGbU9SHeawrc
i have come to the conclusion that arcade racers are more fun than "sims"
>>28893013They are. PGR4 is the peak of the genre. Fighting Wreckfest AI will be only surpassed by multiplayer. You play sims for the sensations and for the sake of gitting gud.
>>28893013Driver San Francisco is peak
>>28893013>pay monthly>pay for every track>pay for every car>practice endlessly to get good>get wrecked out by iberio domingo de la palma malvinas in turn 1or>race and have fun immediately to a banger soundtrackit's such a hard choice man i just cant understand
>>28893223heres your binky and baba you goo goo gaa gaa nigga. grow the fuck up
>>28893362If you grew up you wouldn't be playing fucking video games, retard.
>>28893362tell me more about charity water jason
>>28891647A kind anon pointed me in this direction. I'll just link my post >>561779331
>>28893385Weird, crosspost broke or i'm retarded.Are there any historic servers for AC?I would like to do some casual racan for stuff like AC legends or really anything before the 2000s. I've been doing some offline historic with AMS2 but all my friends are homosexual and want to drive sequential LMP/GT cars. They're happy to meet in the middle with some AC but finding a historic server seems hard.
>>28893385You need to go back
>>28893389host a server and tell them to join, say you'll kill yourself if they don't
I regret not going all out on my first rig. Now I’m stuck with a shitty rig
>>28893394sounds like faggotry to me
>>28893420waddya mean?
Why did they make it so that the course still drags your car along everywhere?
>>28893223>>28893362Driving is more fun than racing
>>28893485sovl...
I don't play mp, only vs AI, currently playing AMS2, should I bother getting anything else?
>>28893850Have you tried rally games?
>>28893851Yeah I've got the first DIRT Rally, I should've clarified but I was referring more to track racing
>>28893854You can wait for Wreckfest 2 or get 1 if it's cheap, technically it's still on tracks.
>>28893850I own AMS2 but I'm not sure what to do there. What's your fav set-up and AI races to do?
>isn't in a single racing gameAnd that's how you know its fucking over for Stellantis.
>>28893922I usually play using some career app like Race Pace or Racing Life. I'm currently using Race Pace doing IMSA GT4 championship with a BMW M4. Use Racing Life for the type of progression where you buy cars. There's a few other career apps but I haven't tried those ones.Otherwise some of the lesser known classes are pretty fun. Huezilian stock cars and Ginetta G40 for example are fun.
>>28893922oh yeah and 60s/70s/80s/90s/2000s F1 championships with skin and AI packs to make the cars and drivers match the time period are good fun too
>>28893928Aww man. I thought these would be in-game mods but there's out of game apps.I play mostly in VR and it's a bitch to interact with all of these T_T
>>28893935It's a bit of a pain with VR but its doable, I've done it.Career mode is supposed to be coming to AMS2 soonish, I don't know why but career modes in sim titles just seem to be either completely ignored or the lowest effort shit
>>28893942I'm not surprised. All the money is into multiplayer nowdays so why would they spend thousands of manhours working on a SP stuff
>>28893924you can at least drive a meshslap in beamngthink there are couple for AC as well
>Kremer 997Please be real
>>28893425I want a sick rig instead of my cobbled together shitrig. But my rig werks so I can’t justify building a full phat new one
Am I tripping or is racing online in AssEvo kinda weird? Weird as in the cars feel less responsive and precise
>>28894136What's the worst part about it? Upgrade that if it'll make a significant improvement to your enjoyment, no need to go balls to the wall right away
>>28893924>StellantisIf they take Jeep out with them it will be unforgivable.
>>28894164Heep will probably get sold if sloplantis goes tits up
>>28894136Stop worrying and learn to love China.
>>28894176that shifter position is p high. im not driving an ep3 cuh
I have graphics maxed on AssRally but I'm still noticing artifacts and reflections at lower quality than promotional videos or pics I see on Steam community hub. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
>>28894164>buy every failing car brand>they all failHow did this happen?
>>28894472sounds like UE5 settings in a text file somewhere
>download popular car for AC>pulls 1.5g with “street” tires the total state
I'm downloading a pirated version of AssEvo, what am I in for?
>>28894858no content
Car sims can use wheels and pedals. What are motorcycles sims using?
>>28894936You don't need content for hotlapping.
>>28894999wheel and pedals
>>28894999You can buy a full motorcycle arcade cabinet on aliexpress for a few grand, somebody has to have been rich and bored enough.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsjqKSxf1lIDIY is also an option
>>28894176the brackets and wheel plate are junk. there is nothing supporting the center pillars from folding. youtube $200 csl dd rig .
>>288916472 days until 4th gear deadline
>>28895030you need cars and tracks
>>28894999>>28895223IIRC Moza was working on something
>>28895449It has Nürburnmbring and GT cars, thoughever.
>>28894999used to play Castrol Honda 2000 with a joystick, worked quite okay
>>28895465if it doesnt do realistic wheelies and leaning ffb its fake and gay.bro tier white eybrow style would be if they made a mount and wheel/bars that converted all moza wheelbases into bike sims.just turn the wheelbase 90* and attach handle bars
>>28894999a sybian
>>28895540>sybianWell, today I've learned a new thing. I guess I can go to bed and sleep now.
theres no reason to play assevo for hotlapping GT cars. just play literally any other sim and youre better off
>>28895556But muh physics and FFB...
>>28895567they are shit
>>28895574>>28895567No such thing as good physics or FFB
>>28895576by that logic everyone should just play gt7 because thats the only sim where you can actually win something irl
>>28895580>by that logic everyone should just play gt7well yes
i think im genuinely too retarded for drifting.i guess i dont have what it takes. the car just snaps in the opposite direction when im countersteering even a tiny bit too much.on a controller its no biggie because thumb sticks are op. but on a wheel im too dumb and too slow and too retarded
>>28895612and frankly speaking its pissing me off bigly.i have never hit such a wall in my life before. its as if theres something missing in my brain thats required to pull it off
>>28895612Have you tried to turn around the wheel?>>28895580I'm more of a Project Gotham Racing guy.
>Forza Horizon 6 >”Yeah we got a bit crazy with the progression in 4 and 5, we will dial it back.”>Announce wristband progression>Makes it so you can’t use certain cars based on progression. >Apparently this only applies to events>In free roam you can drive any car you have So close.I would prefer if the wristbands applied to free roam too. And getting the hyper car wristband took like 40 hours or something.
ill be playing fh6 with a controller.
>>28895635No reason to even use a wheel in FH6 tbqh
>>28895638we dont know yet. they might step up their game but i doubt it
>>28895628Playground always comes up short with the car festival vibes. Gotta appeal to the most impatient casual players
>>28895621Is he drifting with a VR helment that's using its gyros for steering?
>>28895752
Crazy how AC is still the undisputed sim champ
>>28895921They don't make em like they used to.
>>28895921This but iRacing.
>>28895763>>28895923Well at least correct me if you're gonna insult me.
>>28895921No that belongs to gmotor
>>28893850Man I just bought AMS2 in this last Steam sale and it's all I play right now. I love how it looks with all fancy graphics settings off, reminds me of old SimBin titles. And the whole experience is so... Cohesive, I guess?
me when Iracing
>Inspired by the 964, the RUF Tribute is built entirely from the ground up and powered by a modern air-cooled flat-six, making it the only production car today carrying that lineage forward.>This past weekend in Tokyo, @rufsince1939 and @aloisaruf unveiled a RUF x Gran Turismo capsule inspired by the Tribute, celebrating 30+ years of the game that introduced generations to the brand and giving fans an early look ahead of its full release.>The car appeared at Ginza Sony Park alongside Luftgekühlt Tokyo, where visitors could experience it up close and drive the original Yellowbird (CTR) and other RUF models on the Gran Turismo simulator.Source: https://www. insta g ram.com/p/DWHFLjWkUKr
>>28895505>Castrol Honda 2000 with a joystickI used to play Kawasaki with a flight stick.Road Rash 2 was always a controller though.
>>28895752She's got the steering wheel facing down and spinning the base instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIVCCv9Gzfwwhat think ye, auto modellista rememberers/weebs
>>28892668>>28892847chihaya love!!!>>28893969I believe it's just in reference to engine sounds, which aren't always from the actual car you're driving
>>28896276welcome back drift city
>The elite dont want you to know thisThe aliexpress handbrake can be disassembled and flipped around into more of a standard road car handbrake.In doing that, I have to spend $50 in extrusion and corner brackets .I want it nice and low next to my seat.
>>28895628i mean, it makes sense from a 'tism standpoint, its not like the cars are owned by the festival, you buy them yourself. the real "problem" is just the wheelspins constantly giving you free progression skips. without wheelspins, if a player earns their way up to a high-tier car or wins it from an event, they should be allowed to drive it whenever they want. you could fix the wheelspin problem pretty easily by just having a fixed prize-pool for major events like GT3/7 and a generic prize-pool that changes depending on your level, and not give the player 5 special edition hypercars just for buying the vip pass for a couple bucks
>>28896344adding to that has anyone ever done a cockpit setup with a foot ebrake like in a 3800 grandprix or buick?
>>28896351Not sure why you would want this, but why not just buy another single pedal?
>>28896366Youve never kicked down that pedal and sent a grandma car sideways at 80mph? It has a ratcheting effect and a second kick would unlock it. some cars had a lever under the dash to release it also
>>28896276Modellista had such a weird, unintuitive handling. I didn't like it at all.
>>28896496the handling was changed so everything drives on ice in the US version because people said the original game was too easy. but the us version has more cars and tracks so you kind of have to pick your poison
>>28896496the us and japanese versions have different handling because the publisher was worried americans would not understand the drifting mechanics, so the US version has slightly reworked physics that slow you down more when you start oversteering as opposed to the japanese version where the cars are faster in corners and more tail happy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTYQk9ilNFE
Crazy how piloting the Ultimate Driving Machine is the most fun you can have in racing
>>28896497>>28896499I don't remember if I played the NTSC or PAL version, but the car magnetism was over the top. I know most arcades do the same but this was ridiculous and more importantly, the handling was just not fun.
How have you configured your wheel rotation? For me, 540° is the sweet point.
>>28896666it's not as fun as chucking a 3.6 liter pentastar skid missile sideways down a road about as wide as it is long
>>28895921Vanilla AssCorsa?
>>28896721yes
>>28896440Panther platform yacht captain, pedal brakes are fine for parking lot donuts but would never trust that thing at speed.
>>28896666Id drive it more but the bmw m4 gt3 is literally broken in irenting. no mechanical grip whatsoever. I did manage to win the sebring 12h with it last weekend though, but the sof was kind of low thanks to my boomer teammates (not that im complaining)
tried pmr when it was free and uninstalled within 10 minutes. stupid fucking game kept detecting ghost inputs from my steering wheel in the menus and it was annoying as fuck. Ian bellend fix your dogshit game
>>28896884fatty in the back is starring at her ass. hes just like me!also just play LMU or ACC
>>28896890small indie developer rebranding a failed kickstarter project for the 5th time this decade please understand
any good racers worth grabbing on myrient before it dies?
>>28896934
>>28896908ACC is dogshit
>>28896823just because you are scared doesn't mean the rest of us are or will be chief
>>28897128Sim car fuckups are much cheaper to repair.
I don't want to pay for Pure. Please advise.
>>28897407It's one fucking dollar.
>>28897473
>>28897473refer to my post again
>efini rx7My cock can only get so hard.
>>28897827Forgot image like a retard.
>>28897828
GT7 is the de facto best game for real car enthusiasts.
>>28898072Grim.
>>28898072Real car enthusiasts can work on their cars and modify them extensively. You can't do that in GT7.
>>28898088Can’t do that in many modern games these days as car manufacturers do not like you modifying their cars anymore. Same with damage models.
>>28898092every sim on PC that isn't a service has modding capabilities of some sort
>>28898095>b-but if you mod
>>28898104what argument is that? You modify your car in real life.
>>28895628that sounds extremely gay, like something someone who doesn't like cars would say. if I can afford it, I should be able to buy it.
>>2889782890s cosmo whenEunos 500 & 800 when
>>28898088it’s the best option there is that comes with believable physics
>>28898126Yeah if you only option are console games. Compared to almost any other sim its simcade trash comparable to Forza Motorsport.
>>28898129Name a better complete package on PC
>>28898140iRacing :^)
>>28898142>no road cars>no tuning >no kino photo mode>tiny selection of cars
>>28898140Better physics and moddability? Literally anything on PC.
>>28898146>download mod of my own car >it drives nothing like the real deal >download different car>same story >another one>same story yeah no. also, I still can’t modify the car other than basic suspension tweaks
>>28898161make it yourself or have someone competent do it for you rather than playing mod lotteryinb4>I don't know how to mod or make a carneither does someone who has never modified or built a real car>so this proves my point, gt7 is the best because its closest to the real thingno because you're a car enthusiast and unless its perfect it fucking sucks dick and closest you can get is by having a good mod of your real car
>>28898172I want to play a video game, not make one myself.
>>28898174Not a real car enthusiast
>>28898174>I want to play a video game, not make one myself.then you are not allowed to enjoy video games. plese leave.people like you are the reason the gaming industry is in shambles.
>>28897828chally spotted
>>28898179>>28898182>car enthusiasts like to develop their own cars
>>28898185Going to be a load of shitboxes. The progression sounds fun but they need to get rid of wheel spins and I believe that would honestly fix majority of the issues surrounding progression.
finna boutta kms because I realized I will never own an air cooled 911 turbo
>>28898186Never touched a tool in your life, thanks for letting us know.
>>28898186
>>28898172>>I don't know how to mod or make a car>neither does someone who has never modified or built a real caruhh yeah?? in real life you are constrained by the bounds of physics but in a shitulator you are changing numbers in .ini files with no safeguards?these dont compare whatsoever>make it yourself or have someone competent do it for youeven you dont believe in this, so why even mention it
>>28898201what’s the brown dog yappin about?I’m a wrenchgod in GT7. thankfully that game lets me wrench without having to build the car from scratch first
>>28898220>snoy
>>28898219>these dont compare whatsoeverbelieve it or not but the numbers on your screen correlate to reality using math. Results may vary, but reading up how things work help. Just like with real cars.>even you dont believe in this, so why even mention itI've had it done and so have several others.
>>28898230delusional. retards like you are the reason 99% of car mods are complete and utter garbage
>>28898231How do you think GT7 developers do it different?
>>28898219
>>28898231>retards like you are the reason 99% of car mods are complete and utter garbageno the reason for that is because most car mods are made by people, usually unemployed, who don't even have driver's licenses much less access to the car they ripped out of gt7 or forzaa mod car made by an enthusiast is usually perfect
>>28898230ok but you can modify your car in real life with little to no knowledge but you cannot do that with a simulator, because, again, real life stops you from doing things that are not physically sane.if you have ever been to a real racing event and talked to the people there, its evidently obvious that it takes little skill or knowledge on physics to "work on" a car, unlike a simulator where it is a prerequisite.>I've had it donepost a pic of your mod car then lol>and so have several others.what a stupid thing to lie about. several being retards who love drifting? drift mods use template physics and not based on reality
explain why there’s not a single legit AC modding group that’s known for exceptionally realistic road car mods. A group like this would make millions every single month.
>>28898243>ok but you can modify your car in real life with little to no knowledge but you cannot do that with a simulator,huh? what the fuck? if you try to modify your car with no knowledge of how things work you will break stuff.if you start playing around with the variables in ac car files (which are all generally commented and documented) you won't break anything.>if you have ever been to a real racing event and talked to the people there, its evidently obvious that it takes little skill or knowledge on physics to "work on" a car, unlike a simulator where it is a prerequisite.did you even read what you typed? are you on meds?>post a pic of your mod car then lolthis thread literally has a hillclimb event going on where everyone designs tunes and builds a unique time attack car. >what a stupid thing to lie about. several being retards who love drifting? drift mods use template physics and not based on realitythis patently makes no sense because the game engine of a racing simulator simply won't allow things not possible in reality, so even drift cars with "perfect" geometry and suspension setups are still very realistic.nobody's lying everyone in this thread makes various AC mods like constantly and it's really not difficult. you just sound like a sissy.
>>28898244>explain why there’s not a single legit AC modding group that’s known for exceptionally realistic road car mods.because they're on patreon>A group like this would make millions every single month.they make waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more money grifting thirdies for gt7 ripspaid mods are cancer
>>28898249>if you try to modify your car with no knowledge of how things work you will break stuff.that is correct, physics stopping you from doing things that are not possible>if you start playing around with the variables in ac car files you won't break anythingthat is because you will not be aware of if you did something that is physically sane or not. you are being knowingly dishonest because you understand the rocket camaro is not realistically feasible, yet nothing is stopping you from doing it.>(which are all generally commented and documented)yet you cannot tell me what ROD_LENGTH does or what SPRING_RATE in AC actually is (tip: its not spring rate)>did you even read what you typed?it is true, in grassroots racing, majority of people just want to vroom and install a suspension kit that says its good and make setup changes based on feel.>a competently built realistic mod car picture 404color me surprised. because no one with a real car would pay for a virtual one lol>this patently makes no sense because[...]i just proved you, you cannot show the competently made mod of your car, because no one does it,not even you. instead referenced some drug-fueled hallucination series of fictional cars that you demand respect for, for whatever reason, which also goes against the rest of your point where you say that the simulation is supposed to prevent you from creating such.>so even drift cars with "perfect" geometry and suspension setups are still very realistic.drift car that uses double wishbone in game but strut in real life has no difference by this logic then. in fact, simulators are so good that there is no discernable difference between mcpherson and wishbone setups, at all!remember when i said that everyone at grassroots racing level knows nothing about cars?
>>28898251again, the garbage that’s on patreon is a joke. feel free to show me good ones that are not race cars
>>28898243Micra we raced and was in the OP was made by tunari in ovg and its based on a real race car that two guys from ovg race
>>28898272>was made by tunarithat guy who made the chally wally? yeah i drove that. really strikes confidence in the micra, with credentials like that. next you are going to tell me that he is a busrider too.>and its based on a real race carmade by a busrider who has evidently never touched a steering wheelholy cope
>>28898280how do you think GT7 devs do it different then tunari? The car handles like the real one according to owners and runs identical lap times.I don't think that even applies to many GT7 cars
>>28898285>how do you think a multi million dollar company with hundreds of employees do it different to 1 busrider modding a 12 years old racing sim
Unlike neetmodders polyphony actually has access to all cars imaginable. I’m not saying every single car in GT7 handles and feels the exact same as their real life counterparts, but they sure as hell are more accurate than some retarded mods made by busriders. Especially after dialing in suspension and diff
>>28898255wow your really on the peak of mount stupid aintcha>that is correct, physics stopping you from doing things that are not possibleno that is your lack of skill and limited mechanical knowledge>that is because you will not be aware of if you did something that is physically sane or notyes i will because if its not physically sane it won't work i.e if you make the car ridiculously powerful; then it becomes very difficult to drive. if you make the suspension geometry wrong it doesn't articulate. if the steering geometry is wrong it wont turn, etc> you are being knowingly dishonest because you understand the rocket camaro is not realistically feasible, yet nothing is stopping you from doing it.except the rocket camaro IS realistically feasible and so are the Speed Racer T180 cars from which it borrows its drivetrain. assetto corsa models real life physics and if something is not physically possible it simply won't work. you can't "program" the sim to ignore its own laws of physics, that's not how it works. best you can do is some lua addforce which is still constrained by the vehicle's phsical limits.>yet you cannot tell me what ROD_LENGTH does or what SPRING_RATE in AC actually is (tip: its not spring rate)rod length is the length of the shock absorber pushrod and spring rate in ac is actually wheel rate as the comments of most ac cars clearly state.>it is true, in grassroots racing, majority of people just want to vroom and install a suspension kit that says its good and make setup changes based on feel.sir i am an ase certified mechanic and while it does not take a whole lot of brain power to turn a nut to blithely say it takes "little skill" or physics knowledge to work on a car is quite possibly one of the stupidest things i have ever read. if that were true everyone would be a highly competent mechanic, no one would ever need places like jiffy lube or meineke, and i would not have a textbook on the subject that is thicker than my arm
Muh dick is thicker than your arm
>>28898306for example tunari's flying beetle in this webm is just the game's normal aerodynamic model turned upside down, he didn't do anything fancy to make it happen, it just works because in real life if you flip a downforce wing upside down it makes lift. simple as.>i just proved you, you cannot show the competently made mod of your car, because no one does it,not even you. instead referenced some drug-fueled hallucination series of fictional cars that you demand respect for, for whatever reason, which also goes against the rest of your point where you say that the simulation is supposed to prevent you from creating such.you didn't prove anything other than that you are a tiny tiny brainlet who is scared of a video game. you're not even making sense, just babbling horseshit about how it's "impossible" for an average person to make an assetto mod car. you're giga retarded and don't know what you're talking about.>drift car that uses double wishbone in game but strut in real life has no difference by this logic thenirl professional drift cars have fully built custom suspension that is only vaguely related to the geometry of the original car. nobody uses stock mcdonald's struts. > in fact, simulators are so good that there is no discernable difference between mcpherson and wishbone setups, at all!there is a significant difference thats why the drift car you downloaded uses dwb, because it's better>remember when i said that everyone at grassroots racing level knows nothing about cars?the guy decompiling and rebuilding Whiplash has a Zizin-liveried F2000 open wheeler and knows more about cars and programming than possibly anyone else on 4chan
>>28898319prove it
>>28898306>i.e if you make the car ridiculously powerful; then it becomes very difficult to driveand what is stopping you from making the car "ridiculously powerful" in real liferight, it is physics once again. if it isnt budget, its the physical limits like the power the engine or drivetrain supports, or the space, or the thermals. all of which are not simulated because its a text file with numbers>if you make the suspension geometry wrong it doesn't articulate.or it will articulate but wrongly, ie. bumpsteer, wrong roll center. impossible joint locations, etc.>except the rocket camaro IS realistically feasible and so are the Speed Racer T180 cars from which it borrows its drivetrain.LMAO no>best you can do is some lua addforce which is still constrained by the vehicle's phsical limits.what does this even mean? you can add dimensionless force in real life? and remind me again what physics principle lets you add forces on a whim? formula 1 teams get on this!!!>(some ac garbage neither of us care or know anything about)ah yes, the shock absorber pushrod that famously is used to adjust ride height, just like in real cars..what?>no one would ever need places like jiffy lube or meinekehaving the tools to do a task vs. paying for the convenience are different things. many people now do not own tools, or the space to do it themselves, and the common man does not have interest in getting down and dirty, so it is also the end result of convenience.
>>28898321>because in real life if you flip a downforce wing upside down it makes lift.tell me how i know you are on drugs>just babbling horseshit about how it's "impossible" for an average person to make an assetto mod car.lets see what you said>make it yourself or have someone competent do it for you rather than playing mod lotteryright now i have been told that this flying beetle that has the ability to invert gravity is realistically feasible and true in real life within the bounds of real life, and this is the basis on which we should respect car simulators>irl professional drift cars have fully built custom suspension that is only vaguely related to the geometry of the original car. nobody uses stock mcdonald's struts.they are still custom built suspension dependent on build, yet each one of the virtual models use identical template physics, so in reality it simulates nothing except a template of a drift car that someone made up>there is a significant difference thats why the drift car you downloaded uses dwb, because it's betterthat was a rhetorical dont answer that>the guy owns a race car so he must be fluent in race car dynamicsthats crazy. i have nothing to add, that is just crazy. you are crazy.
>>28898336>if it isnt budget, its the physical limits like the power the engine or drivetrain supports, or the space, or the thermals. all of which are not simulated because its a text file with numbersif you know how to weld you can do anything you want(he said to himself, out loud)>or it will articulate but wrongly, ie. bumpsteer, wrong roll center. impossible joint locations, etc.right and it's usually pretty easy to make sure everything is in the right place if you have either the actual car or some data on it. ac uses meters as a unit just like most publications.>LMAO nolmao yes several real cars have quadrasteernissans attessa system has rear steeringthe T180 system uses normal AC physics and a normal AC tire model, CSP COSMIC suspension physics and an accurately simulated gas turbine drivetrain. the wheels work like a thrust vectoring system to point the body of the car, and thus the rocket on the back, in the correct direction so the car doesn't fly off the track. all this works in ac using normal physical principles.>what does this even mean? you can add dimensionless force in real life? illiterate retardi'm saying you can't just add dimensionless forces to ac except for that one which is reserved specifically for silly purposes like making cars jump or arcade nitro boosts. even wacky cars like the T180s actually operate on feasible principles because that's just how the game works. if it wasn't feasible it wouldn't work. you cannot force the game to accept incorrect part orientations and geometry.this challenger for example i rebuilt to have proper B/E-body rear suspension which, unsurprisingly, works perfectly. like the real car it doesn't need a panhard rod unlike a typical AC 3-link LRA due to the self-centering effect of the 4 trailing arms with the top two being angled at 45 degrees inward. if AC wasnt realistic this wouldn't have worked.
>>28898336>ah yes, the shock absorber pushrod that famously is used to adjust ride height, just like in real cars..what?have you never seen a coilover? if you want more ride height you adjust the base and collar so the spring is less compressed and the shock pushrod is allowed out further.>having the tools to do a task vs. paying for the convenience are different things.having the skill and knowledge to use the tools and owning tools as a "man larp" are two totally different things too
>>28898347>right now i have been told that this flying beetle that has the ability to invert gravity is realistically feasible and true in real life within the bounds of real lifethe laws of physics say a volkswagen beetle cannot fly, its wings are too small to lift its fat body off the groundbut volkswagen beetles know nothing of physics and so they fly anyway
>you can't just put a jet engine on the back of a car!!!!1 cars can't fly!!!!1111 that's impossible!!!!!nice opinionhowever, the volkswagen beetle
>T180s are completely impossible no car can steer like that it's unrealisticmeanwhile, hyundai
>>28898358>irrelevant non-response>the publications of frame dimensions, joint position and measurements, that totally exist on the internet for majority of cars>just have the data bro>this flying beetle is feasible in real life that is why we have real cars flying in real life right now, also this mach racer with 360 caster steering is basically a nissan skyline awd system>it actually operates on feasible principles but you can totally do whatever you fucking want and the game has no way of telling you noreally persuasive argument there thanks for proving me rightdont care about your car it may as well be another whatever tunari mod that drives like shit because it likely does
>>28898347>they are still custom built suspension dependent on build, yet each one of the virtual models use identical template physicsyeah because people expect to be able to use them online and tandem consistently, AC drift cars are not about trying to perfectly replicate a factory spec car because nobody drifts factory spec cars
>>28898394you most certainly understand what i mean but choose to pick fights with ghosts. enjoy arguing with yourself.
>>28898392>>irrelevant non-responsesorry you lack the SKILL or KNOWLEDGE required to understand >>the publications of frame dimensions, joint position and measurements, that totally exist on the internet for majority of carsthey do in fact.>>just have the data brounironically, get good>>this flying beetle is feasible in real life that is why we have real cars flying in real life right now, also this mach racer with 360 caster steering is basically a nissan skyline awd systemit basically is exactly the same thing just with more extreme steering angles. the vanilla AC R34 even has torque vectoring like the real car does, and so do the T180s.>this flying beetle is feasible in real life that is why we have real cars flying in real life right now,ironically the thing that stops flying cars from being a big deal irl is not physics but government regulations and average driver skill, rather disproving your point.>>it actually operates on feasible principlesyes>but you can totally do whatever you fucking want wrong>and the game has no way of telling you nopicrel
>>28898401i don't think even you understand what you mean, you're just pulling random things to seethe at out of a hat and i'm enjoying telling you how hilariously stupid and wrong you are
>>28898405this is hilarious, only proving my point. that every modder is a fucking busrider who doesnt know the littlest thing about cars. and anybody with a real car is not going to invest time or money on this "technology" in any serious capacity, because they already have a car.
>>28898412this is just the goopiest word salad everlike you don't even say anything thing coherent did you have a stroke while writing this?
>you dont have a real car!!!!!111thats right i have two
>>28898321>it just works because in real life if you flip a downforce wing upside down it makes lift.Someone forgot to tell this to ferrari
WTF it’s going on ITT. GT7 is kino. End of debate
>>28898481too bad you need to buy a piece of shit from snoy to play it
based tourist blowing up the threadenjoy living a life that gets filtered by notepad
>>28898516literally just cop a digital slimstation for 300 bux. but prices finna explode tomorrow
talking about gt7 is the easiest way to trigger kita and derail everything
>>28898294You know they use the same tools? It's not some magic hammer. You're just a retarded GT7 fanboy whoncan't understand numbers or hood a tool.
im getting this game. no other racing game offers thiis
>>28898671Fool!
>>28898642how are the load times on base ps5?
>>28891647new jameshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlWpmeVsriA
>>28898671there are multiple super gt mods for ac that have been codeveloped with their actual drivers
>>28898644I'm not even in the thread you ankle biting homosexual
>>28898711
>>28898088>Real car enthusiasts can work on their cars and modify them extensivelyI miss NFS and Midnight Club
>>28898146Handling mods on AC are a shot in the dark, people delude themselves into always believing its realistic.Reminds me of engine audio fags who thinks LOUDER and BACKFIRE is always better
>>28898388Hyundai always has money to make some bullshit
>>28898648are you seriously trying to imply that some random fucking faggot can match the workload of a team of physics programmers and artists? explains so much about the current state of AC modding too, if this is how the average user views it.
AMS2 updoothttps://steamcommunity.com/games/1066890/announcements/detail/501728453452628610
>>28898682The same as on the prostation 5. pretty quick
Hyundai is lowkey based. When I was in the market for a new car I test drove an F22 M240i LCI with a B58, Golf 8 GTI Clubsport and an i30N Performance. The BMW was easily the most kino on the Autobahn but on the twisties the i30N fucking destroyed the other 2 with ease.The M240i would have required me to upgrade the suspension and install a diff. Didn’t bother and bought the Hyundai
>>28898711but you are
>in first for the entire race>fuck up in the final lap>loseMany such cases
I'm turning slightly less shit with my wheel, I even won a medal in AssRally. At this pace I'll even think about buying a cockpit.
TCR cars in AssEvo when?¿
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>>28898979What about Wreckfest 2? Are you poor or something?
>>28898979>AUTOMOBILISTA>F1 CHALLENGE 99 02>GTR 2 FIA GT RACING GAME>RACE 07>RACE ROOM RACING EXPERIENCE>RFACTORoh yeah, gonna play some great sims *sips*
Some leaked logos for cars in FH6
>>28899039>mazda luce rotary coupe
>>28898979I AM SO ANGRY I AM TYPING IN ALL CAPS FOR SOME REASON
>>28898979I choose whiplash
>>28899039>X3M Compbased
new Automobilista 2 updateAI and physics improvements, two new car additions with a renaming to the Formula V12 class, and a BRAND NEW F1 class representing 2016 F! (for fucking free)Dare I say, Based
>>28899496Now to wait for reskins for the two classes
>>28899496Career mode will be such a nothingburger...
>>28899381
The fuck does sharpness do and why does it have two different bars?
Drove the vanilla Pagani Zonda R or whatever on LA canyons and a couple other maps on AC with PSVR2 with my beastly rig.Can't have too much fun all at once though I'll have to spend a while getting rainfx going so I can do that shit in the rain like a man
>>28899555it sharpens the blurry upscaled image. there are two main upscaling techniques, FSR(AMD) and DLSS(NVIDIA).
>>28899590What values should I use with 100% resolution scale?
>>28899596100% resolution scale means no upscaling. But sharpening can still be beneficial because it helps with anti aliasing blurr. It depends on the game. Put it on 50% and see if you like it better than 0%
>>28899609Ok but why do it has two bars for sharpening?
Heh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bWVrKMro_Q
>>28899646Should I emulate it? I know PCSX2 has wheel support but how good is the implementation?
>>28899682>how good is the implementationit's horrible
>>28899683In a scale from i'd rahter use a controller to at least I'm not using a stick, how bad is it?
>>28899682PCSX2 feels (and looks) significantly worse than real hardware.
>>28899690for me, I'd rather use a controller
>>288996171 is for when you use FSR and the other for DLSS. They could use 1 slider that works with either method but apparently that’s too much work
>>28899738Look again. Up here there is an Overall Sharpnes bar which is not related to upscaling and then there is a second bar dedicated to upscale.
bring back msaa
>>28899743Best I can do is TAA.
how is GTR 2?
g29 should honestly be removed from the recommended gear list
>>28899742Oh up there behind your pigfat fps counter. yeah no idea. Overall sharpness to the max I guess idk. what game and what resolution? ask ai to scavenge the internet for the perfect settings
>>28899763Assetto Corsa Rally at 1080p.AI is not precise and concrete enough + it's tech for gay uncs and ruined googling answers.
>>28899769>manually googling answers and wasting time by doing it GOOD>having ai do the exact same thing but faster BAD
>>28899769>1080pCRANK IT (100% sharpness overall AND upscaling)
>>28899779Thank you Grok.
>>28899496Did they fix gt3s yet? Id like to not rely on irenting or lmu for my single player fix
>>28899760old
>boughted turdmaster t300 + t-lcm pedals>want proper hardware now>nobody wants to buy my turd300grim…
>>28899870Gift it to your nephew.
>>28899870why would you ever want to get rid of that?
>>28899870this >>28899871or have a secondary setup so you can have friends or family over (implying friends/family lmao) who wants to get into sim racing to test out a cheap plastic one vs a superior chink shit one
>>28899870this but a piece of shit g29 kit
>>28899894too weakthe fan is annoying
>>28899769>it's tech for gay uncsdidn't ask don't care also you're a ningen
what chink h-shifter should I get
>>28891647Because entries list just says 2, and numbers attending just says 1, 4th gear is going on a hiatus until A. beamMP shitstorm blows over and B. when I got time to promote and host it.Reviews for whats already submitted will still go ahead
>>28899682Obviously GT4 doesn't hold up to any modern sims but I still found it plenty entertaining with my T300, you should give it a try. I'd recommend playing with the Spec II modThe only real complaint I have is the crazy FFB wobble you get at high speeds>>28899697Looks and feels fine on my end
https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/tractor-racers-28ca5ffree game (inb4 ebin gaymes)
>>28900052>ebin games
AssEvo is starting to piss me off.
>>28900080Why? It should have pissed you since the beginning, not now.
>>28900033>The only real complaint I have is the crazy FFB wobble you get at high speeds>Mulsanne straight with the 787b in GT4
>>28900033It is fine but pcsx2 has a lot of inherent latency, to the point I thought I didn't like GT4 until I tried it on hardware. Ofc if you don't already have a ps2 it probably isn't worth the effort.
>>28900085>>28900085Gt4 on original hardware looks really bad unless you have a period correct display that supports component inputs.
>>28900082because cars were fun on release. they made cars feel worse with every physics and tire model „update“
>>28900091I think that goes for all ps2 games. I've had a scart crt since childhood, it is worth more than my life.
>>28900033i still like the way gt4 looks. it doesn't look like a modern game but it's a very nice looking ps2 game. my only complaint is that the music in the newer games is nicer to drive to than the all buttrock soundtrack
>>28900170>than the all buttrock soundtrackthe soundtrack in all GTs feel very random shit go, nothing really particularly worth remembering, at least not any of the race songs
>>28900170I've removed all tracks except the classical and ambient in the Jukebox
Thoughts on Jeff Gordurismo?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6458VE4Kc0
>>28900085>>28900091I have my PS2 from 2003 and a modded slim but I couldn't get into GT4. I didn't like the car sounds or the driving physics but it did introduce me to the Nordschleife and Le Mans.
>>28899993arr same
I need a handbrake. AssRally is borderline unplayable without it
>>28900501Sounds like you are looking for excuses.
>>28900218why are the car models so good?lol
>>28900610to spend money, yes
people who can't drift should be forcibly euthanized
people who drift in vidya should be forcibly euthanized.just download modded rbr, pick the Fiat 131, gravel base setup and a UK gravel stage - it's that easy.
how realistic is le mans ultimate?
>>28901280As realistic as you're gonna get
>>28901163d1 style drifting is commercialized and gay. real drifting is taking a 80 hp car on shit tires down a mountain road so pretty much rbr.
>>28901334But RBR average experience is a 300hp car with tires as expensive as your shitbox.
>>28900501Michell mouton won without even having one in her car. you gonna let a girl be better at driving than you ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe0uPHIpQEo
>>28899775the real problem lies in that the answers its pulling up from you are from retards and more often incorrect than correct. on top of that it will lie to you and say its correct only because its the general consensus.
>>28901339yes
RaceRoom is better than LMU and iRenting.
>>28901450this post was sponsored by reddit Danmark
>>28901450But muh FFB...
>>28901452RaceVroom FFB is good
How are people so much faster than me…Watching them drive looks nothing like when I drive. They brake so late it it doesn’t even make sense. Even I try to brake that late the car won’t even turn and just understeer into the crowd
what do hardcore race sims simulate that Gran Turismo 7 doesn't?
>>28901507TiRePrEsSuRe
>>28901507AI.
>>28901450True but only because it has Macau
you ARE in the simulation right anon? RIGHT
>>28901562>wastes money on gloves but not an actual cockpitTake your priorities straight.
>>28901478setups and cheating
>>28901562>yes mr dinkleburg i'll have those tps reports right out by 6pm
>>28901643what’s interesting is the real GT3 drivers don’t even drive like that. in sims it always looks like they are abusing the physics engine
>>28901338yes but when you do the math the 300hp and good tires are at about an equal grip level to 80 hp on 80's street tires
>>28901651as with every completive game ever. abusing the physics isnt exactly cheating because its part of the game but actual cheating is rampant in online gaming these days and im suprised its not talked about more in sim racing. in shooters they are using 2 computers and special cards to hide the cheats. im sure they also have stuff for the racing games like extra grip ect
>>28901668Do racing games even have anti-cheat? iRenting does but the rest? I remember reading, it was (still is?) possible in ACC to set the fuel load to be a constant 1 litre.
>>28901654I have to say it does feel like that sometimes. If I had a sim setup before driving IRL I'd be terrified the first time I drove a real car and feel cheated because it's actually piss easy.
https://youtu.be/jOK-7I4euZo>Unreal engine
Finna boutta quit the sim racing meme and just play arcade stuff with a controller
>>28901683not really and most racing games are heavily client sided as well, there's nothing really checking the setup files or metrics like tire temp, traction, wear, etc. the only way you can know someone is cheating in an online racing game is if they are running wildly different times from other players in the same car. people at the top of the grid are generally running times extremely close, pitting at the same time, etc, so it's a bit of a challenge cheating just enough to win but not enough to be suspicious.
>>28901163>he needs gravel to drift>>28901334picrel
>>28901821my sim motto
>>28901821>grown man>look cool on the touge
godsdamn how is raceroom so good?!https://youtu.be/rWmftEQYiKYhe tested all sims and RR is among the best ones (iRenting among the worst ones) when it comes to physics and handling compared to real GT3 cars
what do we think of this thing
>>28902096This is before the tire model update. Irenting has the 2nd best GT3s after LMU. Raceroom is shit
>>28902094>he never becomes a world famous race car driver and culture icon because he was too scared to look coolYour life sucks because of your own choices
>>28902142he said the new LMU GT3s are very unrealistic. he barely managed to keep the car on track even. He praised ACC btw.
>>28902275you can try to achieve this but only when under 25yo. past that you look like a manchild that hits on girls on the Highschool campus
How do I get rid of these artifacts on AssRally? Settings are on high using FSR with sharpness and scale values at 100%
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