So now that the wagon/estate/station is actually dying, which ones were the best looking?Picrel is an image I made years ago of cars that were in production back then. Think there haven't been any new releases that deserve in the S tier.
>>28895593Not even a Kia guy but their Proceed looked great. If you count SUVs then their EV6 also looks great.
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>>28895606>their Proceed looked greatNo it doesn't. It's hideous
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>>28895593The fact you put a fucking dogshit panamera and corny ass Benz in S tier while completely forgetting about the CTS-V wagon tells me you have 0 taste 0 style and 0 braincells. Go back to tiktok you faggot and shit up the place over there.
>>28895719>CurrentDo you know how long it's been since the CTS-V was in production?I know, anon. It's okay. I feel that way, too.
low ride height vehicles are dead in general. it's an unnatural sitting position.
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>>28895741>picrel was an image I made YEARS AGO>now that this design is dying which we're da good Juans Go back to tiktok you mindrotted goldfish
>A4 and A6 swappedone job
>>28895719>absolutely foaming at the mouth over not including the buttfuck ugly cadillac that wasn't in production when I made the thingyour american is showing, and it's not a good look
>>28896880honestly, that gen the A4 did look better than the A6more expensive doesn't mean more better
>>28895751I feel like the ideal vehicle would have a low ride height for highways and then a REALLY adjustable air suspension that can jack it up for dirt roads and rough terrain, but there's some issues with air suspension tech and it's very expensive. I think most people just compromise with crossovers, and its ok but they are not the most fun or safe around tight bends or at high speeds. Wagons are a lot more secure in their handling at the limit. >>28895606Kia should bring back full sized wagons - k7/k9 whatever and a genesis variant toonobody has anything to compete with a genesis g90 wagon
>>28896909Panamera is top 10 worst looking cars in history
>>28896918subjective, you probably don't even know there's an actual wagon variantbecause that makes up for like 95% of the regular panamera's design sins by changing the rear
>>28896917suspension you're talking about is on the outgoing A8 and current panamera; neither of which are offered in a wagon configuration sadly
>>28896912the picture is swapped
>>28896926no i mean you HAVE cars with adjustable air suspension like a6 all terrain, land rover defender, range rover, etc, but im saying it doesn't adjust enough to go from wagon to jeep and apparently they have issues with overheating and are super expensive to service and replaceits just sort of a physics issue that the shape you want for a highway isn't the same you want for a. muddy, rock-strewn rough dirt road
>>28896930and I'm saying that the A8 and panamera have that type of range to do that
>>28896909Pipe down kraut sucker, get back to me when you can actually win a war.>>28896918FACTUAL>>28896923It's objectively a fugly ass ride.
>>28895593The longer I look at this list the worse it gets. What an absolute shit tier list. What did you even base that off? Cargo space, price and reliability are not considered from what I see.
>>28895593The Panamera is an abomination.
>>28895593>panamera s tierbait used to be believable
>>28895593I like the Jag XF the best of those.
Merc S213 AMG Wagons fuck
>>28895593>CLS and Panamera in Strash listthose things are fucking hideous
>>28896917the issue with using air springs to lift the car is that the taller you go the stiffer the suspension, which is kinda the opposite of what you wantmag ride is the way to do it, but that's complicated and expensive and no way you're doing a DIY retrofit
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>>28896926ackshuwally the A8 and nu-panamera have totally different suspension systems.The A8 has air suspension with optional 48V electromechanical actuatorPanamera has air suspension with optional 400V electrohydraulic actuatorTaycan facelift has the same suspension as panamera and comes as a wagon (prefacelift was air susp only)>>28896942Even at max raised height the highest A8/Panamera get is 150 mm clearance. A lowered Jeep Grand Cherokee has 205 mm.>>28897942You can fix that by having multi-chamber air suspension, you increase the amount of available volume to keep PSI and springrate constant. Many high-end air suspensions already use multi-chamber to get a wide range in springrate. Only Land Rover uses multichamber air springs for ground clearance iirc. Big increase in complexity though.magride can't change ground clearance, its a damper technology
>>28898128shame they discontinued it. great boat
