need some recommendations for buying a daily. Can't seem to find something exactly what I want. I'm looking at new cars, few years old, 2010s, and 90s/00s. My budget is 30k with 6-8k down for something that would require financing. I could outright something if it were around 10k if need be, and I have some time to shop so not a huge rush. I'm also not retarded with a wrench so I can handle youtubable repairs and suchIt needs to be a capable outdoor activity vehicle. Not pure offroading on trail but I want to get through snow, mud, washouts, etc. without an issue whenever going camping/hiking/misc outdoor activity. I do find myself in some sketchy places for 2wd so AWD or 4WD is a must. Don't want a cvt either.preferably not HORRIBLE gas mileage since I do have a fairly long commute (40 miles a day) but I understand there's always a sacrifice somewhere. Heated seats are pretty important but not absolute, remote start would be a big plus so I can sit inside like a fat fuck while my car warms up in the winter. Models I've been looking at include: 1st or 2nd gen CRV's 16-19 Nissan frontierAny generation outback Porsche cayenne with the dieselMontero/Pajero's but they are uncommon herethere are others but these are some that came to mind pretty quick.Anyway, any suggestions would be great, the market is pretty dogshit new and used so there's that. also PNW is where I'm at so older models don't really have rusting issues.
GMT800 is the answer.
>>28896335whats a reasonable mileage on them to buy? the price on these listed near me is like 8-10k for 200k miles of clapped out bucket of bolts is insane, but maybe thats just the market
>>28896352Im from mass. I flew to seattle and bought one for 9k with 120k on last september, 5.3 extended cab 4x4. No rust, no issues.
kia sportage 2023+
>>28896895guess i just need to look around more, granted i didnt look super hard.>>28896898how is kia on warranty stuff? it seems like the newer models of most brands are bloated with technology that becomes premature failure points
>>28896932i bought it used and it was warrantied up to 65k and they replaced the differential clutch (I think) for the AWD system under it without too much issue, took a few days, communication wasn't the best, but got it doneI mean I do kinda dread what happens if the computers go haywire but they put SO much effort into the software design there's just layers and it's very conscientious compared to the lazy ass VW my family previously boughtat least try it and actually use the driver assist systems and the nav system and the sensors and parking camera and see how useful and well integrated it all isalso, its the only way into full skidplates other than subaru for not too much money, from what I have read (and only the x-pro prestige has this - if you do any rough roads v. helpful)but the hands free driving tech is best in class and so far the only stuff that has failed is consumables like wiper blades, brake pads, rotorsno major mechanical issues so far bought at ~ 45k 70k miles on it nowthe engine isn't much fun below 4000 rpm and its kinda rough, that's definitely the worst aspect, and I'm sure the CR-V has better steering, but everything else is better than the competition (and the toyota rav-4 is yet worse in engine roughness)you can get a used top-trim sportage for 30k and you get a lot for your money relative to cr-v and rav4
>>28896331>1st or 2nd gen CRV'slook no further
>>28896331I just saw you listed Montero/Pajeros at the end so obviously not on the US, otherwise I would unironically tell you to buy a new Forester Hybrid>Starts at 36K, with 0% finnaning for up to 75 months, your payments would be like $450/$500 month>The perfect outdoorsy vehicle to handle your mud and snow needs for strategic camping purposes>Genuine AWD unlike most other AWD/4WD SUVs that are more front biased>The Hybrid gets rid of the Lineartronic CVT for the same planetary gear transmission that is on the Rav4 >35 MPG, which is low for a hybrid nowadays, but that can be blamed on Subaru's insistence on keeping their Symetrical AWD system no mater what.>Comes with heated seats standard, but I have no idea about remote start.I dunno if you have a similar 0% offer where you're from anon, but either way I wish you good luck on your search.
>>28896939I see, I wonder how they hold up getting into higher mileage. I'll have to look into it more>>28896966Everything I've seen makes them look great, just hard to find an example that isnt super high miles. Granted it's an old Honda so not that it matters too much, but it sucks ass having to immediately go in and replace a bunch of suspension and sensors on a high mileage car>>28896979I used both names, from WA but people do have some imported, hence why i listed. Maybe im not informed enough on hybrids, but how do they rffectively work if you were to say, spend 4 days on forest roads where you arent getting high speeds? Do they just switch to gas when they run out of juice? sorry if it sounds dumb, just always expected that to be a drawback for a vehicle.
>>28897071>Maybe im not informed enough on hybrids, but how do they rffectively work if you were to say, spend 4 days on forest roads where you arent getting high speeds? Do they just switch to gas when they run out of juice? sorry if it sounds dumb, just always expected that to be a drawback for a vehicle.It's the other way around. Hybrids get their best mileage driving slow instead of faster, as a mater of fact highway speeds kill most of the benefits of hybrid cars.As to how they work, the hybrid battery serves to supplement the gas engine, they cannot run on battery alone ( that is the difference between normal Hybrids and Plug-In Hybrids, Plug In Hybrids get bigger electric engine and batteries that allow them to run full electric for a short range) the way they save mileage is that the engine runs on the battery when accelerating from a stop (usually until you hit 25 MPH) and then the gas engine kicks in to provide extra acceleration beyond that point. The battery recharges by braking (The electric engine reverses polarity when you hit the brake, so instead of using battery power, they generate power and use it to charge the battery), if you're not stopping for a while the car runs either on gas only, or the car would have a "charge" mode where it uses gas to get some battery power.I dunno how it work on the trail, because most hybrid vehicles are FWD used for inner city driving, but I assume that out about about on the trail the car would operate as a gas only vehicle seeing as the Subaru keep their exact same engine from the normal Forester, unlike toyota hybrids that get an engine specifically designed for the hybrid system. But head to and from work in normal roads the car would be saving gas. The best part however is the transmission, They use the hybrid system from Toyota, and the transmission for that system is genuinely the best transmission out there in the wild in the year of out lord 2026. They're absolute tanks with like 3 moving gears.
>>28896331>2010>30kthats a lot for an old car, they should be at 10k at that age.i might get a lot of hate for saying this but it has been my trustworthy companion on many roadtrips and pretty hardcore offroading: land rover, specificly the freelander.its called the worst car ever made yet it just works and get you places you dont expect such a suv to go.
>>28897083actually looks pretty good and with 0% apr the touring package is actually reasonable to get. ill have to see if there are any local dealers, but its looking like a pretty good choice as far as an option for a new vehicle rather than new to me
>>28897097you would think, but it seems like 15-20k for anything arohnd 10 years old and 100k miles for my use case. I wouldnt pay 30 for a 15 year old car, that was.more for like a new vehicle.
>>28897103hunt for the good deals. i got my current rig for 8k and it had 75 000km on it. completely rust free, mint interior. but it has been parked for 5 years and some of the diesel injectors are grumpy and the diff is noisy at 60kmh. still if i have to replace all injectors and the rear diff its still a cheap car. thing is i can do such task myself, if you cant then its not so cheap. so far im just driving it as it is and it doesnt really bother me.
>>28897108they do come by here and there, i saw a dream CRV listing a couple months ago but was a few days too late. I do like not having a car payment.
>>28897134crv is a good awd, i tried that and the freelander. you cannot beat the traction control of landrover but that is only as long as it works, crv is a good second. i heard that subaru and nissan x trail are also good in this segment. i dunno what kind of awd system they use but the one thing landrover got is that when it fails it goes into awd. that is a huge plus.
>>28897145i see, like i saaid AWD or 4WD is fine, just cant go back to a 2wd suv since its gotten me into some problems in the past...
>>28897147my work rig is an '11 transit awd and it rely on abs sensors to activate awd. it failed on me once and thats not a good feeling. you think you got it all but suddenly a light flash in your dashboard and you got only 2wd. not fun when you try to work as a tradie in bumfuck nowhere mountain norway. well i know now how to hardwire it so i get awd constantly if needed. my freelander is the oposite, it goes awd when it fails.
>>28897154lol, guess thats probably worse than getting in too deep knowing you shouldnt have.
>>28896331I have a 2023 crosstrek with a manual transmission and it meets all your criteria. You have to get a stick though because the autos have a CVT trans.
>>28896331What can I say or do to get you into Corolla ?
>>28897173i literally drove around with the front axle solenoids hardwired in a cigarett lighter plug and i had to plug it in when i hit rough roads. transit awd is weird that its rwd but when its needed it kicks in the front tires. most awd is the oposite, its fwd and then it kicks in the rear tires when needed.
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>>28897194not much different from a 4wd button at that point lol
>>28896352I wouldn't hesitate to buy one with 200k miles. A sub 100k mile truck is still going to be a 20+ year old truck and will still need stuff replaced even with low miles. The market is pretty fucked but there are still billions of these around and deals to be had. There are a bunch of really clean trucks out there for $10k or less. I would just go for a 2500 but DO NOT buy a Duramax. There are also a lot of grandpa owned Tahoes, Suburbans, etc out there which tend to not be beat on as hard as a pickup.
>>28897556i guess if it made it that far its not liable to have some major failure and other things would have already been replacedalso why not duramax? thought they had a decent rep just from the bit i know about them
>>28897595Duramaxes break cranks, eat injectors and are generally extremely expensive to fix. The same goes for any used diesel trucks. If you can get one that you know has been babied all it's life go ahead but know what you're getting into. Only get a diesel if you're going to use a diesel. Oh and look at the current diesel price.
>>28896331I have a 2011 Subaru Outback with the 3.6R 6 cylinder and a traditional automatic from the years before they introduced CVT in 2015. Its super practical, the AWD system is great and its been very reliable for me. I have 260 horsepower and 260 lb/ft of torque and I get around 25 MPG.You could get a really nice 2014 Outback with a 5 speed automatic for $10K or less.
>>28897837Does this era have the head gasket issues? Ive been looking at outbacks and foresters but I was under the impression they had some design flaw with them. Wasnt sure on the years and of course a bad stigma sits with them because of it
>>28897837How many miles per quart of oil are you getting?
>>28899038>Does this era have the head gasket issuesThe 6 cylinder never had head gasket issues so you can buy any year with a 6 cylinder and not worry about it.As for the 4 cylinder they had it straightened out by 2010. The ones to be cautious about are 2000 to 2010 4 cylinders.>>28899049>How many miles per quart of oil are you getting?I'm at 145,000 miles and I usually have to put in one extra quart between oil changes which I get at a 3000 mile interval. So I'd say a quart every 2000 miles plus oil changes. That wasn't really necessary till I got up to around 130,000 miles.
Don’t forget the Xterra.
>>28899082these actually tend to be a fair price compared to other cars of this nature. How do they compare to like a frontier as far as reliability and such?>>28899077alright, i know they burn oil as already mentioned, but an extra quart really isnt that big a deal compared to topping off trans oil on the family beater
>>28899098>these actually tend to be a fair price compared to other cars of this nature. How do they compare to like a frontier as far as reliability and such?they are identical to a Frontier underneath, but with a shorter wheelbase. I see no reason to differentiate them from a Frontier when it comes to reliability, and I think highly of that powertrain as long as they’re built after 2010. There is also the Pathfinder, but the Pathfinder can be found with the 5.6 V8 which is awesome IMO.
>>28899104alright, only thing about either vehicle is just the mpg is pretty shit for a lot of people who drive them. this is subjective of course, but is it worth it to daily or would it be better used as a weekend car?
>>28899206I had a 14 Frontier for a while and yeah the mpg wasn’t great but it was a pickup, with a 4.0L NA V6 and a traditional 5 speed automatic transmission. I loved it because of how simple and reliable it was. It’s a slight tradeoff. If MPG is your primary concern then yeah maybe go for a CRV or RAV4. A bigger body on frame SUV probably won’t ever fill every box you want when fuel economy is such a high priority.
>>28899387not a deal breaker, just 5.50 a gallon where i live ;(like i said ive been considering either because of their reliability. paying more for gas still beats out new car depreciation in the long run.
