You have one job.
Sorry the whole company management was replaced by ferrets as soon as Sergio died
>>28898949>Alfa Romeo should’ve done this and that, they need to make these kind of cars with these specific engines …aaaaaaand nobody would still not buy their cars as always, piling excuse after excuse to justify going for the competition.
>>28898964their issue wasn't product, at least not until they made the tonalestheir problem was that nobody knew they existed, and they made no effort to change that while their dealer (and therefore service) network slowly choked out
>>28898972>their issue wasn't productAre you sure about that?They had literally one compelling product for the US market and they launched it with famously Italian reliability.
>>28898972their issue was the shitty interiors and uncompetitive ADAS features>nobody cares about thatsales figures suggest otherwise
>>28898998Mazda has nice interiors and nobody buys them but miatafags.
>>28899000mazda has outdated interiors and other issues with transmission programming, poor fuel economy, and legendarily stiff ride (esp. new cx-60/70/90 products)mazda still sells a decade old 3 sedan and various hatch and suv'ized variantstry making NEW product with NEW engines and watch sales go up up up miata needs a turbo (and to be bigger inside)
>>28898949is that a soopra
>>28898949good looking mustang clone... too bad it's italian
>>28899119it's a retarded butt baby of a poopra and an M4 with all the worst parts of both.
>>28899123>mustang cloneit looks more like a mk5 supra that's like 30% more BMW
>alfa hate ITTbrainlets. enjoy your soulless numb npc goycattle bmws
>>28899584Because alfa turned to shit after Sergio Marchionne died. Look at who leadership was afterwards and the shit they put out since. Giulia is almost 10 years old and they've made 0 new good cars since it came out. The $1m special edition they produced 33 units of doesn't countt. Giulia owner
>>28899589>the Stradale 33 doesn’t countholy cope. also, no need to come up with new garbage when you have the perfect 2 cars available (Giulia and Stelvio)
>>28899589I mean, the new Giulia is coming out next year and it’s based on Giorgio Evo/sport platform which is the same god tier platform as before but even more evolved for Maserati.
>>28899599It's not going to be based on stla large anymore? That's pretty cool I guess. Can Giorgio fit the hurricane engines?
>>28899615Probably, also Filosa (the CEO) said that they’re not giving up the V6 so they will probably evolve it further
>>28898949Fiat will not allow them because that kills Maserati. The same way they killed Lancia for Alfa before. >>28899002>mazda has outdated interiorsIn current times, that's a good thing. >poor fuel economyOn paper, because the tests favour tiny turbo 1-liters.
>>28898949>all that carbon rubbishyuck
>>28898996>>28898998The giulia and stelvio hold similar positions to the 2002 and early 3 series: cars that are practical enough and priced suitably to justify owning them as a sole vehicle, but which are dynamically performant enough to stand out from the rest of the market despite the relative lack of creature comforts. Being stripped down compared to Mercedes or modern BMW is one of the selling points. The company just never tried to actually sell those points. What made things worse is that the American market assumed that after they left in the 90s, they had never come back. People never considered them to be an option after a couple of decades of them not being an option
>>28899584enjoy your loaner vehicle >bc your shits in the shop
>>288997412 things >wrenchlet >post 2020 models are as reliable as any other euro car
>>28899752>alfa>reliable>post anythingLOL what kind of loaner you got, dart?
>>288997702021 Giulia QVnever been in the shop cope, seethe, dilate
>>28899773So your gaskets, turbo and cooling system are due to go any second now. Remember when you feel the misfire, shut it off immediately
meme brand
>>288995992028they might show it next year
>>28899599>new granturismo will just be a gulia with fewer doors and more expensive servicesi believe it
>>28900086$130 oil changes at the dealership is pretty sweet. BMW charges $170 and Porsche 700 kek
>>28898949christ dude, are there enough vents and black cladding for you?
>>28900086Service costs come from the badge and the nettuno engine, when Alfa inevitably uses the Grand Cherokee 320hp i4 as a base engine (quick 91 octane tune to 350hp base model) and maintains its objectively lower cost to own, perhaps you'll join ushttps://www.howtogeek.com/alfa-romeos-luxury-sedan-cheaper-maintenance/
>>28899599>wont even make a new platformits over, they are the mitsubishi of sports cars
>>28900266Considering the direction, not making a new platform and sticking with good old stuff is a good thing.
>>28898972I swear every dumb bitch who doesn't go outside, watch advertisements, or buy new products, always blames a company's failures on poor marketing. People didn't buy them because they don't make normies look as rich as other brands, and they didn't offer anything compelling for a driving enthusiast either.
>>28900661>glazing corporations for not putting in actual effort
>>28898956The whole company bet everything on Giulia/Stelvio platform that cost around a billion to develop. In the nine years since, all cars developed on it have sold a total of around 350 000 cars - leaving around 2 800 dollars of that development cost to be depreciated per car, in addition to all other costs.It just wasn't a good investment even though it made good cars. Alfa and Jaguar trying to be Italian/British BMW wasn't a winning bet in 2010s.As soulless as the Stellantis approach is of trying to make Alfa a premium sportier car based on identical engineering with Peugoet/Citroen/Opel/Fiat/DS, it makes economic sense.
>>28898996Giulia doesn't actually suffer from reliability issues 10 years.
>>28899000Mazda has sold 6x many this gen Mazda 3s as Alfa has sold Giulias in same time frame. CX-5 has outsold Stelvio 15-to-1 since 2017.
>>28900707How's it gonna suffer reliability issues when nobody bought these pieces of shit lol dumbass slop loving faggot
>>28900707Guy is a faggot. Mine has been fine.
>>28900710thats because the Stelvio (and Giulia) have too much steering feedback and razorsharp handling. soccermoms can’t handle it
>>28900712>they never tell you how many mileskek
>>28900668Many such cases
>>28898949It looks ok but all the electric shit would stop working after 8 years
>>28900954so what, get it replaced and then enjoy it for another 8 years.
Alfa Romeo is dogged by its bad reputation in regards to reliability, and a poor service network. They're also competing with BMW in price and given that choice a lot of people are gonna default to BMW for the same money. What Alfa needed was much more aggressive marketing, 15 year warranty and ads everywhere until even your dog knows what a Stelvio is, aggressive pricing early on at least to get cars on the road and accepting that they're gonna have to run on very tight margins or even at a loss for a while to claw their way back from the hole they're in.
>>28900710>Mazda 3>car with years of dealer network support, starting below 30,000>giulia starts above 40k, with a newer and less entrenched dealer networkI would certainly hope it outsold the giulia>>28900667Alfa ran like one ad campaign on launch, then one for the tonale during a super bowl Giulia ad campaign ended without replacement and tonale ended up being a huge piece of shit that even Dodge didn't want once they got their hands on it. Even Porsche and Mercedes advertise regularly, but the Italians were too proud
>>28901366>the italianshate to break it to you turbo wrenchlet but that car has nothing to do with italy
>>28900954Better than a Tesla where all the electric shit stops working after 5 years.
>>28898949Why is that giving me Z4 vibes?
