How do they return to their former glory?
>>28899164Make cars that go past 7k rpm, that's it..
>>28899164New S2000, new NSX. No hybrid bullshit.
bulletproof economy sedan as the brand anchor. they fucked up making the civic so expensive in exchange for "sporty" and "performance" cost inflating changes.
>>28899164>go back to making fuel inefficient shitboxes that are uncompetitive and send the company spiraling into bankruptcy rather than innovate!Kill all retarded millennials who think the world begins and ends with them. now honda will be in their glory days in the eyes of a younger generation.
>>28899213Aww, is little zoomzoom having a temper tantrum? Do you need a time-out?
>>28899216Honda makes cars i like so no temper tantrum from me. enjoy never having your shit 2000 and shittier NSX ever again.
>>28899164Quit trying to play the Toyota game
>>28899164Bring back the hot hatch, it doesn't need to be a 9k screamer, emissions regulations won't allow it anymore, just make like a Honda Fit sized car or smaller and a crap load of boost, 350hp at 2600lbs two door hatchback
>>28899228>it doesn't need to be a 9k screamerKys faggot
>>28899221>I like wrong wheel drive eggsAnd you accuse others of having shitty taste.
>>28899164Double wishbone
>>28899233>>wrong wheel drive eggsso honda for almost their entire history?
>>28899232I didn't say I wouldn't it just that it doesn't need to be one, as much as I want one, I recognize modern emissions bullshit won't allow it, maximizing horsepower through displacement per minute was the game before emissions bullshit
>>28899237They weren't always eggs, and they were (rarely) correct wheel drive.
>>28899239They aren't always eggs now, and they are (rarely) correct wheel drive now.
>>28899260Incorrect on both counts.
>>28899266>t. retard
>>28899276>NuSX
>>28899288So something that is neither an egg or wrong wheel drive?
>>28899164They can fix my fucking VSA limpmode every time it rains.That would be nice.
>>28899164Their former glory of what? Making fuel efficient vehicles that shine in a time of fuel crisis? They're literally doing it right now.
>>28899300this, millennials are retarded.
>>28899293>discontinued half a decade ago>glorified Prius
>>28899319so when they make the new EV NSX honda will have returned to the glory days in your eyes?any more cope, retarded nigger?
>>28899329No one wants a soulless electric transport pod, zoomie.
>>28899336is that why China's auto industry is eating Japan's lunch in Europe and Australia?
>>28899337Normalfags aren't real people, and North America is walking back from the soulless electric future.
>>28899348anymore retarded cope you got?
>>28899354The only one coping here is you, egg-lover.
>>28899356refer back to>>28899276
>>28899359see:>>28899319
>>28899391see>>28899329
>>28899399As per my last post:>>28899336
>>28899401>retard ignores realityyawn>>28899337
>>28899404>faggot can't accept the truth>>28899348
>>28899409>people who have money and buy things aren't real peoplesame retarded cope as last time. get new material.
>>28899164Impossible. Cars are toaster ovens on wheels now badge don't even matter. Can't engineer your way out of being EVslop
>>28899164>How do they return to their former glory?Rear Wheel Drive.
RWD civic.
>>28899164
>>28899276>10 year old carTik tok unc soon you'll be 30
>>28900055>tfw super based and modern K series Honda without all that old sohc timing chain bullshit of old>car is 23 goddamn years old Don't fuckin remind me Anon.
new S2000 (ICE) with the best transmission in the world, the ZF8HP
>>28900055And you'll be the one drafted lil nephewKnow your place, stay humble or go back to tiktok.
>>28899164Start making kei trucks again.
>>28899509How about a FWD s2000?
>>28900187>speedo way the fuck over there>60 measly burger units an hourWhy would anybody drive this shit
>>28899164New targa Del Sol but done properly (right wheel drive) to go against Miata NE and GR86 gen 3
>>28900055amazing that it's 10 years old and still looks new.
>>28900314Ehh, it's a nice design but pretty much everything made in the past 20+ years looks modern, you throw a nice paint job and some clearcoat on a 2006 Civic, and you've got yourself a new car.
They really need to update their AWD system
>>28900410absolutely not. any 2000s car and any car designed in the 2000s and sold in the 2010s easily looks dated. only the NSX can stand against a brand new C8, 992, Ferrari SP90, etc, and still look like it came out alongside them.
>>28900620Dude, we get it. The NuSX makes your PP feel funny. It's still a twisted soulless mockery of true perfection tho.
>>28900623we get it. you're another retarded millennial who doesn't even know what NSX means.refer back to>>28899213
>>28900623based post however that lip has to go and youre a ricer.
What was Hondas legacy? VTEC? I can't think of anything else besides VTEC
>>28900857>i cant think of anything elseno shit lol, youre a fucking wrenchlet. i bet you know all about LEDs and glue on lips kek. you are not the one to consult on hondas contributions to racing and engine technology. what do you want to talk about now, how about that uniiversal batman wing that fits all your favorite auto only nog cars huh you littel faggoty ricer?
>>28900868>blaname one thing Honda did that was special vs everyone else that doesnt involve vtec, go
>>28899164They sell reliable cars people want.What do they have to change?To appeal to the 1 percent who want a new sports car but can't afford to or won't buy it?
>>28900889>people want masturbatory piffle. Honda is losing money faster than respect, and their cocky everyone loves us attitude is why. They need to stop trying to be Toyota
>>28900895They're losing money because greentards were forcing ev's down everyone throat in 2030 and now they've backed off because they found that there was no fucking way in hell anyone's electrical infrastructure would be able to take it.So they had to cut way back on EV production which cost them bigly.EV bullshit lost every manufacturer across the board.Ignore greetntards is the message here.
>>28899164>J35>manual transmission>AWD>looks sporty but not too civic-ish>no hybrid>less LCD in the dashi would buy the shit out of it
>>28900924>j enginethats the SOHC from the 1990s right? The one that took them like 3 decades to adapt DOHC to? The legit 30 yr old engine architecture?
>>28900930>sucks himself off while fantasizing about the B16
>>28899164New Jazz, S2K and NSX. No CVTs, only ZF autos. No HRV, crv, or three letter names. We want cheap civic back.
>>28902069>We want cheap civic backWe have cheap Civics, Anon, adjusted for inflation, a shitbox Civic EX from 1995 cost 34,000 in today's money, nowadays you can trick out a touring hybrid civic for a little less than 33 grand and it is so much car than that single cam piece of shit could ever be.
>>28902977>adjusted for inflationOkay, now do the adjustment for average wage. Go ahead, I'll wait.
>>28902998Why is it Honda's fault we live in a society? there's costs of materials and shit, Anon... The fuck do you expect them to do? sell cars at a loss? the profit margins are tight as it is, the way these cars are priced to sell when you're competing with not only toyota who makes good fuel efficient cars, but a Hyundai that is making good fuel efficient cars as well. We're at a point where pretty much every car is "nice" so to even get a Civic LX base car with a 2.0L engine for a little under $25,000 is really incredible.
>>28902069we're getting a newer new NSX. it'll share a platform with the GTR. the newer new NSX will be EV while the mid engine GTR on the same platform will be a hybrid.
>>28903010I'm just saying that accounting for inflation does not mean that it's cheaper. When someone says they want cheap Civics back, they mean affordable Civics. That tricked out touring hybrid Civic that you're using as an example doesn't qualify.
GIVE ME BACK THE TABLE
>>28903128I was behind one of those this afternoon, they were gaying it over all the speed bumps in Mill Street.
>>28899213Funny you say that when Honda peaked with the Honda Fit, surpassed even the Corolla in sales for a while.
All the Japanese car companies should form a cartel for parts sharing. Unified engine development, unified transmission development, common wiring harnesses, etc...Toyota can make the boring cars, Mazda can make the slightly upmarket cars, Honda the kind of sporty cars, and Nissan can make the poverty tier cars.This is literally the only way to compete with China. Yes, the future is bleak, deal with it.
>>28903147They tried that with BL. The infighting was horrific.
>>28903139they still make the fit. so i guess honda is still in their glory days.
>>28903027I hate both. I said no EV and no hybrids. You know why it didn't sell last time.
>>28903292why didn't it sell before that, either?
>>28903292>>28903329more importantly, why did it outsell the LFA? that was supposed to be Toyota's big halo project and the only people buying those were dealerships.
they could have done it with the prelude but nope, gotta make everything gay now
>>28903333The LFA is on a completely different level. The NSX is a more mass produced vehicle than the LFA by a long shot and that was by design, during the decade long planning phase of the LFA it was determined it was going to be a car produced at a loss with only 500 units. Compare that to the near 3k units produced of the NSX. Sure the NSX is a halo car but the LFA is a unicorn, originally a concept car but eventually conceptualized as an artistic showcase of Japanese engineering talent more so than a performance monster like the GT-R. The NSX is more a platform for technological implementation instead of engineering prowess (LFA) or performance metrics (GT-R)
>>28899164Make a motorcycle gearbox that isnt full of neutrals
>>28903473>artistic showcase of Japanese engineering talentSo true, as much as I love the GT-R for how much it costs, the thing sounds like a vacuum cleaner and has typical Nissan switchgear (not a bad thing), but the LFA is a real luxury item, they actually cared to make it sound beautiful when you cranked it up, where the GT-R doesn't.
>>28903333Selling more than lfa is not a benchmark. They needed to sell more than r8.
>>28903478>oops went the wrong way sorry guys
>>28900876>still no replyYup yup yup, another W for the boys
>>28903473They couldn't even sell the 500 they coped with building because they knew it wasn't going to be popular, and it was even less popular than they anticipated. you conveniently ignored the part that most of them were bought by dealerships because the car was a flop and you're just using flowery nothing-burger language to explain away what is basically just your arbitrary personal bias. You act as if the engineers and designers of the NSX weren't just as autistic and talented given what they did and how much the industry copied them.You tried to use sells as a reason to dismiss "EVs and Hybrids" when the LFA couldn't even sell the 500 units it had despite not being either of those things. >>28903492Why would they ever need to do that when it takes longer to build an NSX than an R8 to begin with because there's much more quality control involved with the NSX than an R8.
>>28900216Fuck now that I've seen this, I will forever lament the fact that it will never exist as a production vehicle.
>>28903527There's more QC in Accord than r8. Doesn't mean shit. NSX being a heavy as shit ev or hybrid makes it less desirable than a vette. New Honda has no balls.
>>28903542>entire point and comprehension goes over his head>"old" honda had balls by cucking their Halo car out of the V12 everyone thought it should've had and giving it a trannyverse mounted V6 that made the whole car a paper tiger on and off the trackThis is the IQ level of people who seethe at the new nsx.yikes.
imagine a new integra... but its not gay
>>28903564how can you make something front wheel drive not gay? the entire concept of the integra was always straight homo erotica at its finest.
>>28903567nah integras slapped
>>28903568then just admit you're a closeted fag and the new one should be just as up your alley.
>>28903570quit projecting homo i dont wanna be your top
>>28903572people who nut over having the front wheels driven are bottom.
>>28903579>i say i liked a car>you immediately think of cum
>>28903580>brings up homosexuality>"i'm not a closeted fag i swear!"
>>28903581being gay has nothing to do with sexuality, faggot.
>>28903584You gargle cum as a life style choice, then? that's even worse.
dont mind me just being a cool car over here
>>28903588Based championship white
Don't mind me, just being the same thing but newer.
>>28903591*gayer
>>28903593>front wheel driveso, the same thing?
>>28903594are you an arab? how can you be such a tastelet.
>>28903596Is that any worse than having hispanic """taste""", instead?
>>28903599i have never even seen a mexican with my own eyes
>>28903602I've never seen an arab. so what does any of this have to do with you liking gay stuff?
>>28903603nah thats you>my heavyweight plasticshit ipad car is betterlmao
>>28903604they're front wheel drive, so neither of them are "better" they're just gay. you're splitting hairs over which kind of dick you like in your mouth and i'm just telling you it's all gay regardless.
>>28903606okay retard. or should i say... ogay hehe
Love my 2016 Honda Fit. Had a Nissan Pathfinder before it, and the difference is night and day. The Fit has has as much or more cargo space, gets more than 2x the mpg of the Pathfinder, and almost no issues with needing work, breaking down, or passing inspection. I'll probably own it another ten years.
>>28903607LOL torque steer
>>28903618weak wrists typed this post
>>28903619those are exactly the kind of wrist that want power sent ONLY to the front wheels.
