future classics thread. requirements as established by old top gear: must be 2 of>rare>interesting>good lookingstarting with pic related. definitely not rare, but interesting and good looking
>>28901304Are there even going to be any post-2010 classics? Post-2000 cars are pushing their luck IMO. Too many computers. What are you going to do when the body control module for your 2017 shitbox fails?
Toyota Origin. They made 1077 of them for one year only. They all have suicide doors and unique styling. Jury is out in the look.
>>28901309pretty sexy if i do say so myselflike a pt cruiser but good
>>28901309idk, old mitsuokas aren't seen as classics
>>28901309>>28901312>RWD, 2JZ-GE oooh mama
>>28901304>but interesting and good looking
>>28901312I'll let you know when mine gets here whether they're actually good. >>28901313I mean, that's why I didn't post mine
>>28901314yeah but they're all auto and look like shit. Toyota have so many interesting and good looking rwd models from the 2000s only a redditor would be interested in this thing.
>>28901321the transmission is an easily swapped problem especially for a millenium era carwould look sick as fuck in vip style
>>28901308there's some standardization in communication protocols. potentially there could be aftermarket open source hardware / software to support the electronic gubbins when OEMs can be bothered to do it anymore
>>28901308>Are there even going to be any pre-2010 classics? Pre-2010 cars are pushing their luck IMO.>Not enough computers. What are you going to do when your lack of traction control sends your 1997 shitbox off a cliff?
>>28901327all an engine really needs is fuel-air-spark, all the electronic shit is for emissions controla prius could run off a carb if you knew what you were doing
>>28901324It you're actually reddit enough to pick one of these up I'm laughing at you. There are so many nice 2000s toyotas that could be imported but you picked this? really?
>>28901330name a single one that doesn't look like a slightly modified usdm camry or corolla from the same era
>>28901329most new cars have fly-by-wire throttle, so you're not going anywhere if that isn't working. some new cars like the C8 have electronic brakes too. you also need the electronic power steering to work because they're so heavy
>>28901333So you're admitting you just wanted something that looks weird for updoots? In the 2000s you had crowns, altezzas, aristos, chasers, soarers, centuries etc but you zeroed in on the wierd thing that nobody likes. Are you gay or trans?
>>28901330>Muh redditWhen you apply this to everything it loses it's punch, ya know? A reddit or would say that's sooo cool, then turn away muttering "it's old, must be shit" as they go off to buy an F150 or Trax.
>>28901330I mean, laugh all you want. It's interesting and rare, and I already daily a Mitsuoka. Maybe I look stupid. Maybe I am stupid. But I'm also enjoying life, anon.
>>28901340That's not even me, dumb ass.
>>28901340>So you're admitting you just wanted something that looks weirdwhy the fuck else would you import a 26 year old japanese car? >>28901337that doesn't really mean anything, you can still have an electronic throttle position sensor with a pedal cable throttle.
>>28901337>some new cars like the C8 have electronic brakes too.most new cars have electronic brake boosters instead of using engine vacuum. it's just a 12v vacuum pump, nothing high-tech.>you also need the electronic power steering to work because they're so heavyagain it's just a 12v motor, just because it's electronic doesn't mean it's black magic.
>>28901346>why the fuck else would you import a 26 year old japanese car?The japs made a shitload of desirable cars in that time period with large support groups in the west. This isn't one of them. OP has probably taken 3 miles of different cocks in his ass and is going to spend the next year attention whoring his weird car out while trying to fix the various problems it has that nobody is going to be able to help him with. He'd have trouble getting this thing fixed in japan because everyone hated it, making it rare.
Already increasing in value. Giulia QV is holding value better than I expected in the US, only the really high mileage ones are cheap cheap
>>28901308>post-2010 classics?I can see top trims being classics.ZR1 GT500sGR Supra Unironically Hellcats as well Exe.
>>28901354>auto only>mcdonalds struts>carbon fiber 4cyl that somehow weighs 3500lbsShits a rental
>>28901358>carbon fiber 4cyl that somehow weighs 3500lbsWhat? How?
>>28901330>noooooo you can't just like a car that I don't!!!!
>>28901304Rare sounds subjective, what is rare? Are S2000s rare but Honda produced over 100,000 of them?
>>28901354the 4c for sure, but idk about the guilia. it's not particularly striking. speaking of the italians>good looking>ferrari v8>sub $20KI could pick one of these up so easily, but the reputation scares the shit out of me>>28901364I wouldn't consider that rare
>>28901363Oh I have no objection to him doing it but as a veteran JDM importer I'm going to be laughing at him all the way. Importing a car into a country with an existing support network is fine. Importing some unpopular weird looking heap of shit that even japs would have trouble maintaining just because he wanted reddit updoots? That's just dumb. He's a retard and whoever buys it off him when he figures out he's fucked is an even bigger retard.
People are going to look back on these one day and think damn those were so cheap
>>28901374As an outsider it looks like he posted a car and now you're desperately sperging about reddit or some shit. The guy likely knows what he's in for.
>>28901378That day was 10 years ago. You really have your finger on the automotive pulse don't you.
>>28901374it's based on the XG10 Progres which makes it mechanically related to the XE10 Altezza/IS300 which is sold in America.
>>28901374You're not even arguing with the right guy. I'm the moron who bought the Origin.
>>28901385So what was the plan here? Attention whore until the problems get too problematic and sell it to another retard?
>>28901392lol no
>>28901390
>>28901393Cope
>>28901390Drive it until I get bored and then see if the local Toyota dealer takes it, and if not, park it until future me wants it. I dailyed a Mitsuoka for two years. It's a good plan
>>289013614c is 2500lb. Guy's a faggot. You can tell by the auto and mcpherson autism.
>>28901399Ah so you're a legit mentally ill retard trying to satisfy his need for attention buying super weird cars. I'm sorry for whatever circumstances have driven you to this situation.
>>28901402You don't have friends, do you?
>>28901403Do you? if you had friends maybe you wouldn't feel the need to import weird shit nobody cares about even in the country you're importing it from.
>>28901405I have lots of friends. I brought in the Mitsuoka to be my family car. Why are you so angry, anon? Why does it bother you that people like things?
>>28901372You're delusional if you think any modern maserati will be a classic lol.
>>28901409It doesn't bother me I am amused by retards doing retarded things. Your family must be very tolerant people.
>>28901411They won't last long enough. They were the most depreciated car on the market a few years ago. If their engines fail, you can't have them rebuilt. You just have to pull another one and hope it isn't warped out of shape as well.
>>28901412My wife and I discussed both purchases to death before making them. My children love being driven to school in the Mitsuoka because all their friends think it's cool as well. People smile when they see it and ask me about it. I get that the joke is we're all CHUDs on 4chan, but how do you function in real life being so negative?
>>28901414>My wife and iYou don't have a wife. If you had a wife you'd have better things to do than try to find the weirdest jap cars.
>>28901413> If their engines fail, you can't have them rebuilt.that's why you buy the twin turbo Pentastar aka Ferrari F160 V6
>>28901428I just puked in my mouth a little
>>28901425man you are an angry little manlet aintcha
>>28901428>not rare>not interesting>ships from the factory with a pre-crashed riced out body kit
>>28901425Whatever helps you sleep at night. I'm not too concerned with whether you believe me.
>>28901430That's actually a good point; could you rig up a Pentastar to work in a Maserati?
>>28901411>>28901413reliability isn't a prereq for classic status. an owner who takes care of it will have a classic
>>28901435>>28901437There's no use case for someone with a wife getting a weird japanese car that they have no hope of getting fixed. Op is a tranny or a fag or that technology connections guy or something.
>>28901438idocars has a teardown of a maserati v6 and he shows that it is all mostly still the same engine, same block, same front cover, same bolt pattern, etc just different cylinder sleeves and heads. a lot of the qp/ghibli electronics are just mopar gubbins straight out of a chrysler 300 so aside from probably needing an appropriate ecu it literally should just work (tm)would actually be a cool project, making the most reliable maserati ever.
>>28901441lil bro you're under 6 feet lmao stfu
>>28901442Not really. Who gives a shit about maserati? >what if we made ferraris but shittier for poor tasteless retards? Yeah great idea for a brand.
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>>28901304CTSV wagonThe beamer before the BigSniff face-lift. Top trim first year C8Last year top trim C7 Viper ACR easilyThe Merc muraderAll Holden related GM cars like the GTO SS etc Lexus LFA (duh)
>>28901460>Lexus LFA (duh)I'd say the LC500 is on the list as well
>>28901462>the LC500Auto only though
>>28901460>All Holden related GM cars like the GTO SS etcThe build quality it complete ass. You'd need to enjoy rolling in shit to lust after a holden.
>>28901304>must be 2>is noneGood job OP
>>28901464or any gm, reallythey look so good on the outside and then you open the door and you get "the smell"
>>28901466or you go to fill up and you realize the fuel flap has fallen off. I'm not even joking this was a big problem for YEARS.
>>28901462Meh, forgettable.>>28901464Buddy, you don't need "build quality" for shit to go bananas or considered a future classic. A prime example is a 93-96 cadillac fleetwood (Chevy B/D body platform) went for 100k at auction just because it was low miles. Not even a top trim.
>>28901464That's not my experience owning an SS.
how do we rid /o/ of the auto spergs
>>28901473This anon knows ball. XLR goes crazy
>>28901472People just love to hate GM but as a whole they're a good car maker. History will keep the score.
>>28901472>hurr durr holden quality gudT. person with no fucking fuel flap who never owned a nice car and doesn't know any better.
>>28901475XLR head and taillights blow like crazyalso it's a corvette with a northstar lmaaoooooo
>>28901480My fuel flap is intact, thanks.
>>28901481Yes, and?The 4.4 was the good one, the 4.6 ones were the terrible engines.>muh headlightsLiterally EVERY modern car has a honda civic priced set of headlights so it's irrelevant
>>28901441You're precious.
>>28901308>Are there even going to be any post-2010 classics?4chan niggas really think history ends at their childhood preferences
>>28901488>Literally EVERY modern car has a honda civic priced set of headlights so it's irrelevantok but usually they are priced the same as honda civic headlights, not an entire honda civic
>>28901503these cars are averaging 1k miles a year, probably why i never see them anywhere. basically just being used as investments. maybe that's just BAT though.
>>28901304If the rumors are true that the next GR86 and Miata are going to be hybrids. The 86 and ND Miata are going to be worth their weight in gold as the last of their kind.
>>28901392Nah. The reason they're popular now is because you get 90% of the performance of a CTR for $10k-$15k less money. But in the future, the CTR is going to be the classic everyone wants, not the EN.
>>28901517A Miata mild hybrid sounds awesome. Imagine having all that electric torque down low. I'm sure with modern battery tech they can pull it off with minimal weight increase (~50kgs)
>>28901522>the CTR is going to be the classic everyone wantsNobody wants them because the engine is plastic, when they make it out of metal and it revs to 8k it might be desirable but as of now they're built to rent.
>must be 2 of>rare>interesting>good lookinggive me one example of a car that's rare and good looking, but not interesting
>>28901352Its a cool looking car sperg. Calm down.
>>28901304Even the 4 cylinder manual ones will go up in value. it's what the GR86 wishes it was. a reliable, practical, unrivaled handling sports car.
>>28901552Lotus Elan M100It's rare, it looks good, but it isn't interesting.
>>28901552Alpine 110 >Auto only just for a "Feeling"One of the special built mustangs would fit the bill. Literally nobody but Fordists care and will only look at it and think "mustang" no matter what guts it gots
S2000 club racer >>289015042800 dollar headlights is the cost of a honda civic anon.
>>28901552Later Tibs are arguably "rare". Good looking, but who cares because Hyundai lmao. Also FUCK the janny that keeps rage-rangebanning me
>>28901620I was wondering where you'd gone. You gonna start GLUCKposting again?
>>28901614i'm sorry your 30 year old japanese tin can has expensive oem headlights but i can buy a pair for my challenger for like $400. now sure the mopar ones are about a grand a piece, but the point is the xlr doesn't even have a 3rd party option it's 2800 dollar lights or nothing, AND it's all four.>>28901620based fuck the jansshine on you crazy diamond
>>28901634Well if it isn't Ashville's biggest white trash loser.Enjoying your rental-spec Challenger?
>>28901634>Challenger posterAh, figured you were broke. We are talking about collectable cars ITT not the price of headlamps.Also you're gullible, I made that number up
>>28901646i actually looked up the price of xlr headlights and you were basically on the money for a pair
>>28901649>Spends 20k~ on a supercharged sports car>shits himself crying over 700 dollar head lightsNot the sharpest tool in the shed are you
>>28901658>six hundred and ninety nine point nine nine us dollars>for a single, faded, sundamaged, used headlight
>>28901552
>>28901670>plus tip
>>28901670You can't fathom resourcefulness because you're a moron kek
>>28901687>just buy a 25,000 dollar car that needs new headlights every 3 years and goop some of this shit on the 700 dollar a piece junkyard pulls so your 20 year old northstar swapped c5 doesn't look like an altima
>>28901634Fuck off retard
>>28901736>GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK I LOVE JANNY DICKThat's you
>>28901743Sperg out harder tardlet
>>28901744sperg out harder on that janny dick
>>28901736
>>28901752Hell yeah bruther.
>>28901308>What are you going to do when the body control module for your 2017 shitbox fails?3d print a new one
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>>28901304I think these are rare and good looking. anything rwd with a 6 speed manual and 350 HP is gonna be classic in my book
>>28901779penis window
>>28901779it has some nice lines but I can't unsee the penis now
>>28901788it is otherwise a fine looking car from back when Korean car companies weren't trying to be temu lamborghini but I can never unsee it
>>28901779they have headstud issues and like to blow headgaskets because the headstuds arent long enough and eventually rip themselves out of the block, big issue with all hyundai v6s in the 2010sthat's no.1 reason you see less and less genesis v6s by the yearthey also eat transmissions (manuals specifically)
>>28901779I remember MotorTrend wrote about how Ford refused to send a S197 to test against the first generation Genesis Coupe, and that's when I knew Ford was in trouble. It's not that the Genesis was a bad car. It's that the Mustang was two cylinders up and even Ford knew it couldn't take something so tame.
>Everyone in this thread
>>28901851yes, and?
>>28901993>boringTry driving one, if you can't have fun in a 6.2L V8 manual RWD you're hopeless.
>>28901743>Gets banned for being an obnoxious faggot constantly>Too dim to receive the message.
>>28902016least i ain't sucking janny dick
>>28901723this is the most beautiful audi ever and among the best looking modern cars
>>28901540you naive little retard, have you been living under a rock for 12 years. A modern miata that has hybrid slop wont be an enthusiasts car focused on sports car ethics and low weight. Its a sign that mazda is dying and desperate to keep up sales because japan is being strangled by globohomo.it will weigh 3800lbs and have 220hp
>>28901728>goop
>>28902198But hp don't matter elektrik has tork bro
>>28901412>retards doing retarded thingsthis is a strong indicator that you are, in fact, bothered
