friend buying new carhas teensi want to tell him to buy a manual so the kids can learn to drive on it he's going to ask why?what would you say (yes, I'm looking for ammo to bolster my argument)
>>28902028Stupid boomer. New drivers already need to focus on steering, scanning mirrors, speed control, traffic awareness, signaling, and rules of the road. Adding clutch coordination, rev-matching, hill starts without rolling back, and not stalling in stop-and-go traffic splits attention dangerously. Many new drivers end up focusing more on “not killing the car” than on actual safe driving.
>>28902028In an emergency, fumbling a shift or clutch can delay reaction time. Automatics let you keep both hands on the wheel more often and react purely with your right foot.Driving a manual doesn’t magically teach you physics, spatial awareness, or defensive driving. Those come from experience, good instruction, and deliberate practice—regardless of transmission. Plenty of terrible drivers have manuals, and excellent drivers have automatics.In countries or states with high manual adoption (parts of Europe), new drivers still have high crash rates in their first years. The transmission type isn’t the differentiator—driver inexperience is.
>>28902028>has teensStupid kid puts it in first gear instead of third. Tell him the joy of that.
>>28902028When they buy a first car they can get it for cheaper.They'll never be stopped at work by not having a basic skill.They'll learn to be more engaged with the road and what they're doing rather than zoning out in an auto.
>>28902028They're cooler. Cool = gets you laid. Getting laid = not ending up on 4 chan like OPI'm unfortunately on here because I didn't start driving a manually soon enough and thus didn't get laid soon enough. Having a manual has had a direct correlation afterwards for smashing puss however.
>>28902028Driving stick requires both hands and more attention. Gives the driver less opportunity to use their phone or pay attention to other distractions.
>>28902036This is why most transmissions don't have a synchronized first gear.
I had a manual at 16. I wanted it, and thankfully both of my parents are jet pilots who drove stick (they still do at 75).I love manuals, 7/7 of my cars have been manual...But i can't really come up with any actually good reasons to give your kid one.It's not going to stop them from smoking weed and talking on the phone while driving or anything unless their dexterity is really low.It does require the driver's mind to be more focused on the road, and prevents theft in much of the US, best I can do.
have your own kids you weird fag
There's no good reason to get a manual in this day and age other than driver preference. I say that as someone who's only ever owned manual transmission vehicles.
>>28902091reliability?a shitbox with a MT is a safer bet than a shitbox with an AT. if it does fail, it's probably cheaper to repair as well.a lot of people struggle to get oil changes, the thought of replacing the tranny fluid ever is a foreign concept.>>28902055this too, every 'convenience' feature just makes for worse, less attentive drivers.
>>28902028You're one of the teens, aren't you?It's not an argument that's going to work since learning to drive a manual doesn't take much time and it's not something that you'd base an entire major purchasing decision around. If you wanted to teach your kids to drive a manual you could rent a manual off Turo.Any argument from an offspring that he should get a sporty manual is going to be a completely transparent attempt to have it available for themselves. Teens are very bad at actually pulling the wool over the eyes of their parents since the degree they are wrapped up in their own greed makes it obvious they're trying to insert completely external considerations. The way I'd do it would be to try to raise the excited puppydog emotion. SUVs, pickups, and big, heavy cars suck the fun out of driving. Smol and sprightly and manual is just incredibly invigorating and makes you feel alive. But I can make that argument from experience, having driven both life-sucking disappointmentmobiles and super lively BMWs and Porsches. An argument from experience is generally taken to likely have a degree of truth to it making it worth investigating.
>>28902028Absolutely stupid idea anon. Do you think that guy REALLY wants his teenage kids learning manual in his brand new fucking car?Fuck that shit they can learn in a pontiac sunfire or 15 year old mazda3 or some shit that they'll learn on and thrash then get over manual transmission when their friends don't think it's cool to jerk the car while driving in city traffic anymore
>>28902103I also see that same thing in OP.It'd be pretty difficult to convince your parents in [current year]. They're going to know immediately what you want it for, because hooning is why 99% of people buy them now. And they're getting really rare.The best you can do is ask for a manual Mirage / Versa, OP. Maybe an old Wrangler, since they still are standard in manual to this day (and they're RWD unless you engage 4WD), but Wranglers tend to hold their value too well.Used to be there were cheap light trucks like the Ranger and S10 you could get into manual with but that ship sailed long ago.
>>28902107This is good advice if you genetically have no skill and passed it to your kids
>>2890202824 yr Zoomer here. Teaches them to stop texting and driving real quick. If they break it they have to fix it. Builds character and discipline.>t. money shifted while playing Clash Royale on my phone.
>>28902118More like this is good advice if you don't want your car slammed into a curb because your teenage boy has a girl in the car. Teens crash every car they drive at least once, you don't give them a new car especially the current gen, they crash their shitbox and pay the price by losing the car and then they don't make that mistake againOr they crash your brand new car, you get destroyed by insurance, your kid says sorry but at the same time blames someone else for the accident and nobody learns anything
>>28902028if he has zero plans to raise his kids to learn manualthen i bet he cares more about golf clubs fitting in the trunk. you cant force everyone to conform to your beliefs. some people just want a eco 4 door that is just a daily.
I fucking hate it when I was force to use a stick shift when my folks gave me a hand me down car. I can't imagine a generation that hate driving would want to do the same. Don't bother your friend about Manuals at all. If it interest you that badly, get your own kids and teach them Manuals.
>>28902028Fuck automatics
>>28902028Automatic are reactive, manuals are proactive, this teaches one to drive ahead of what they're simply looking at. That lesson could be the difference between coming home or not
You morons act like "learning to drive" means "dailying daddy's car." Not surprising coming from a bunch of mpngs too low IQ for even driving a manual.>>28902233Huge skill boost from this alone. They can always get an auto later on but there's no harm in teaching them on less populated roads and then supervising them driving around town. There's probably no point in it either but as a teen, I got an auto when I wanted a manual and I'm still mad.
It really doesn't fucking matter. Their first own car will be a manual anyway since nobody can afford automatics, unless things are different in the US.
>>28902031>>28902034holy fuck what pussies lol just wowwhat happened to this place?
>>28902031>rev matchingSTFU. 99% of the people driving a manual don't need to rev match.
>>28902031Most of us learned both simultaneously. Though I will say it was stressful as fuck having to deal with the clutch on high speed roads with lots of intersections.
>>28902350>unless things are different So different that manuals are rare enough that it boosts their resale value. How I envy Europoors but would never ever be one
>>28902028its non of your buiseness op
>>28902028Not only do people (teens, but yes, stupid adults, too) need to learn "how" to drive, the need to realize WHY they drive. Understanding a vehicles' functions aids that.Will it take longer? Yes.Is it more information? Yes.Does that make focusing harder? Yes.But guess what? It's a $20,000 machine surrounded by dozens of other $20,000 machines driven by morons --- it's best to know exactly what you're doing so you can become a better driver.
>>28902058Did you just come out of 1950, grandpa? Even my shitbox ‘68 MGB has a synchro first gear.
>>28902031Is it really that hard for americans? Where I am everyone learns manual and nobody has an issue except the ones that would struggle in an auto too.
>>28902596my fault for not saying so, I guess, but he asked for my advice.since when did this place become an etiquette board, anyway?
