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> go up to boomer at a gas station with a new taco
> tell him it looks nice, ask how well the 4wd works
> boomer goes on a rant saying it's a "work truck" and he purposefully didn't get a 4wd unit as it would cost "thousands more".

Mind you the boomer already spent 37K.

Why are boomers like this? There's no reason to spend roughly 40K on a truck and not add 4wd for 3k more.
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FUCK YOU
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>>28904076
It's a truck, it has no need for 4wd
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>>28904093

>The thing designed to drive beyond pavement has no need for 4wd.

Even civics have awd at this point, jesus
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imagine caring how other people option their car
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>>28904099
Trucks are designed to haul things sweetie
They do have some things in common with off-roaders but that doesn't mean they are designed to be sunk into bogs or bounce off rocks
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>>28904099
>The thing designed to carry large or heavy items has no need for 4wd
Correct.
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>>28904136

Considering the widespread proliferation of AWD into econoshitboxes it seems most people disagree on minimal baseline capability. There's a reason why used 2WD trucks are almost worthless, nobody wants them.
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>>28904076
And not to mention no 4WD tanks resale value,and if he's really going to run it into the ground (or until he dies) why not get that since no one can deny it's useful even if you don't activate it frequently
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>>28904154

There's really no rational reason to forego such an upgrade in capability for marginal case. Best I can think is the dealer conned the idiot into buying it because nobody remotely intelligent is paying that much and getting 2WD.
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>>28904076
>Why are boomers like this?
Penny wise pound foolish. Guy probably went inside and got a $5 big gulp and $10 hotdog with fries.

Dad would drive across the city to save 10c in gas yet ate out at LEAST once a day. Usually two times.
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>>28904144
>There's a reason why used 2WD trucks are almost worthless, nobody wants them
That's just wrong though. If you look at used prices, trucks and SUVs alike, resale value on 2wd trucks is very often the same as 4wd trucks, minus the cost of the 4wd option. The only times you really start to see a divide is on very good condition low mile classic auctions where the person buying it already doesn't care about money anyway
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>>28904076
If you don't need it it's just another thing that can break.
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Because that's $3000 more in his pocket?what the hell do you mean "why are boomers like this"
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>>28904076
>go up to zoomer at gas station with new taco
>ask how well the 4wd works
>he doesn't even know how to activate it
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>>28904162
>That's just wrong though. If you look at used prices, trucks and SUVs alike, resale value on 2wd trucks is very often the same as 4wd trucks, minus the cost of the 4wd option.

lmfao absolutely not,
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>>28904144
Because of marketing, the goycattle think if they don't have AWD they will literally lose control of the car and crash the second the road gets just a little bit wet.
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>>28904076
He's 100% right,you're young and unwise,if he is not going to use it what is the point,to just have one system more in his vehicle to maintain and add weight for no purpouse?
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>>28904175
Not only is it more weight and maintenance for the t-case and extra diff, but nobody mentions all the room it takes up that makes it harder to work on than a 2WD version of the same truck. Changing an oil pan gasket on a 4wd is a nightmare compared to a 2wd.
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>>28904173

Dumb take, there's never been a time where someone with 4wd thought "damn I wish I would have gotten 2wd" but there have been plenty of times the opposite is true.
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>>28904181
the car(s) you own, are they the highest trim? you could say the same thing there. replace 4wd and 2wd with an M5 and 530i. it'd be stupid to think everyone who gets a 5 series wants or needs an M5. just because you would have gotten something doesn't mean other people are stupid for choosing something different.
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>>28904185

There's an underlying expectation of baseline capability and that is to reach point b from point a with minimal problems. 4wd significantly increases the ability to do this successfully in a much wider spectrum of conditions. This is particularly important for vehicles who are likely to go off pavement.
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>>28904193
for you, maybe. this guy might not use his truck like you would. so when you buy yours, you can get one with 4wd. stop worry about what other people are doing and worry about yourself.
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>>28904076
My sole purpose for owning a truck is to move large things like my shop equipment and tools. I don't go off road, it doesn't interest me. I have no need for 4WD so I'm going to save money both in initial purchase price, in maintenance and repair costs (don't forget difficulty) and even fuel savings due to having to lug around less dead weight and whatever minor frictional drivetrain losses it may add as well. Not to mention 2WD will be faster than an equivalent 4WD for being significantly lighter as well, assuming traction isn't a limiting factor.
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>>28904167
It is though. You can see it for yourself on auto trader. Especially on F150s the difference is almost always right around 3-4k given the same trim options and miles. Even if you look at auction sites, it's a lot harder to narrow it down but if you can do it then you'll see the same pattern. 4x4s definitely go for more but not much more. Maybe best case scenario you get an extra 1-2k back, which isn't nothing, but on 40-50k trucks it's not game changing
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>>28904197

I already bought one, all mine have 4wd - I would never buy a vehicle without it. Anyone living in the PNW would be retarded to given the amount of mud and ice that makeup 3/4 of the year.

Was a dumb as fuck decision on his part and the first time it rains he's going to get stuck.
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>>28904210
you care way too much about what this random person you don't know has spent his money on.
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>be filling up at gas station
>see gangly uncoordinated zoomer making his way to xer in taco
>zoomer awkwardly mumbles something at xer
>xer starts ranting about it being a work truck, 4wd being too expensive and nirvana being greatest band of all time
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>>28904076
You asked him a retarded question and he shut you down because he didn't want to talk to you. It's 4wd - it's worked the same for seventy fucking years.
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>>28904076
4WD and AWD are memes. Unless you live on a mountain in the middle of nowhere, a place where the risk of getting stuck is reasonable, they you really have no need for 4WD/AWD. It's about on par with heated seats in the level of uselessness. It's nice if you can have them, but you end up spending thousands of dollars more for something that is largely useless most of the time.

Even if live where it snows a lot, a FWD car, the overwhelming vast majority of civilian sedans and small vehicles in the year of our lord 2026, are perfectly fine to drive on snowy weather precisely because they're FWD, You only need 4WD/AWD for snow if you're a woman.
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>>28904210
Agreed 100%. I'd never buy a truck without 4wd it's retarded.


Speaking of weird boomer encounters, was at the beach last weekend cleaning my truck and some boomer asked me to pull him out. Told him I would but it's be his risk. He backtracked and just said my truck was too nice etc but asked me to look at it. It was up to the axles and I told him he needed to dig it out to be pulled and he just kept saging my truck was too nice and he'd wait for someone else.

Don't know how much time he wasted but he was going to end up digging anyway.
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I prefer RWD in a truck. RWD + V8 + manual and it's like a big muscle car. You can slide it around a bit in the rain and do burnouts.
But, I have used 4WD in the Jeep to pick my aging father in his tractor out of the mud several times.
If I didn't live on a farm, didn't off-road, and lived where it never snows, I'd be RWD all the way. How often do people *really* engage 4WD? I've known people to have never used it and don't know how. I've heard people say they don't want to use it because "it could break."
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>>28904076
> go up to boomer at a gas station with a new taco
> tell him it looks nice, ask how well the 4wd works
> "son what the fuck are you talking about, this is a burrito"
> i am at taco bell
> i just filled my gas tank with mountain dew
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>>28904076
I really wish manufacturers hadn't conflated trucks with off-roaders in the public conscious, now we have retards like you. The boomer is 100% right, there's absolutely no reason he'd need 4wd. It makes the truck harder to work on and adds maintenance items as well.
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>>28904674

> adds a second differential and transfer case
> implying this has any meaningful impact on maintenance, weight or performance.

also

> implying 3k is a remotely significant amount of money if you are already 35-40k in.

anon...
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>>28904135
>Trucks are designed to haul things sweetie
When they have 3' beds and sub 1k payload capacities? Yes there are dedicated work trucks but the average truck is just a sedan with bed. Why can you euros not comprehend this?
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>>28904784
I didn't mention weight, performance, or cost. Try reading before you reply dumbass. It does have an impact on maintenance and failure points, you're adding a transfer case, differential, and two axles. Depending on the truck, the suspension or steering can also be different. Now explain why you'd need it on a normal day-to-day work truck.
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>>28904848
it is pretty crazy how much car companies have hyped up 4wd like its some absolute necessity.

the funny thing is if you just rephrased the question as "how many 4wd owners do you think can actually be trusted to 4wd", /o/ would gleefully tell you about how many retards they saw doing shit they had no business to be doing in the first place. the mechanics would be telling you how 98% of the 4wd's that came in never left the pavement and were glorified grocery getters.
they will, in the same breath, say "im the only one who can be trusted with a 4wd", then follow it up with "but everyone needs one". not even the ceo's of these companies believe more then like, 2% of the population needs 4wd.

HOWEVER: its still important, because a shitload of the population driving 4wd's that they dont need, subsidizes the cost of 4wd for those that do need it. with how easy it is to find parts for 4wd's from cars that at most, might of driven on their front lawn with one or two of the wheels after this missed the driveway? if it wasnt for this, actually owning a 4wd for the people who actually need it would be prohibitively expensive. economies of scale, yadda yadda yadda
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>>28904175
>Winging about unneeded weight or capability on a vehicle that's intentionally overbuilt under the expectation of being used hard
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I'd be annoyed by such a retarded question as well.

>How's the 4wd work? :-)
Like what
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>>28904848

Parking in wet grass or mud or driving when it's a bit icy.

That's literally all that's needed for your day to get fucked up with a 2wd, 4wd with traction control(IE fake diff lock) will hugely improve your chances of not spinning out when on a job site.
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>>28905912
>Parking in wet grass or mud
something 99% of drivers will never, ever do, in their entire life
>driving when it's a bit icy.
literally only applies to people that live where...it gets icy.

>when on a job site.
great so something that applies to like, 10% of the population at most
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>>28905912
You are beyond weak if a little mud or grass messes up your day
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>>28905912
>Parking in wet grass or mud
literally just don't
>driving when it's a bit icy
the hard part is stopping and 4wd won't help with that
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>>28905956

> Why would a work truck need to park on something other than pavement.

Jesus Christ.
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>>28904076
Based boomer knowing exactly what he needs in a work truck. Cringe faggot gay retard OP.
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>>28906005
>Why would a work truck need to park on something other than pavement.
no thats an excellent question. the answer is: almost fucking none of them, the VAST majority of work trucks, dont ever touch grass. ever. thats literally what we are talking about.
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>>28906008

Every service or construction vehicle has a nontrivial chance of end up driving down a muddy driveway or road during its life. Anyone that does any type of field work or even has to get somewhere when it's snowing/icy. Bunch of urbanites and poors trying to rationalize why they don't actually need 4WD in spite of there being numerous reasons to get it. Truly a fox and the grapes type of deal.
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>>28906012
>Every service or construction vehicle
great. anyways, back to the 97% of other trucks
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>>28904502
>was at the beach last weekend cleaning my truck
You go to the beach to clean your truck?



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