Zoomer here. Are gas prices just going to keep going up and up forever? Will gas powered cars die out in my lifetime? I like the idea of electric cars but they don't seem to be as reliable in practice.
>>28907488>Are gas prices just going to keep going up and up forever? It's gonna go up and down. Prices have been fairly low when you think about how much inflation we've had for the last 2 decades.>Will gas powered cars die out in my lifetime?They probably will. There will still be gas and diesel powered vehicles around for specific tasks a century from now but most cars will switch over to electricity.>I like the idea of electric cars but they don't seem to be as reliable in practice.It's still a new tech for a lot of car manufacturers but they'll get better with time. Teslas are already really good.If you're concerned about gas prices and can set up a home charger then go for a used Tesla. But I kinda recommend to start with a used gas car just to experience having a gas car.
>>28907488They'll never go back to pre-jewish levels. This is part of the plan to get the goyim onto electricity dependence and off of oil. t. not a thing to do with 'environment'
I assume the straight being open again will have some lowering effect on prices, but it's months out. Also, I don't know how much that $2,000,000 tax per boat that Iran and Oman get to split will effect the final math, but let's hope that shot is shortlived.
If you have storage do both, daily an electric and get a shitbox convertible for the summer. Most people by a convertible for the summer and pay for a years useage but the trick is to SORN it for the offseason, that way you don't have to worry about tax and insurance for the period. You'll still have to sort your MOT for when you do need it but you effectively have a year to work on it if anything crops up.
>>28907488Just get a non plug-in hybrid. You will save on gas and they are cheaper to maintain than pure gas vehicles.
>>28907504>They probably will. There will still be gas and diesel powered vehicles around for specific tasks a century from now but most cars will switch over to electricity.Ignore this one, folks
Hard to say. We're moving to a rent economy from ownership. EVs seem like they could fit that bill, but they are miserably inconvenient about charging. If you have the capital to install a charger at home, sure could be good, even better if you can also install solar to feed it. But what I'm trying to say here is that EVs shine with responsible consumers who plan their resource usage, gas cars are just great for filling on whatever timeline you use for getting gas. We all know nobody isn't driving 300 whatever fucking miles a day, what I'm saying is you simply don't have to think about your energy management outside "oh shit I'm at a quarter, let me go fill up". In a highly feminized society of mental listers, keeping gas in the car is just easier than keeping your car charged. Case in point, all the iPhone users who cannot keep their phones above 10%, and you want those people driving EVs? An additional consideration, mom's don't want to sit at a charging station with their kids when there could be niggers around.
>>28907586>We're moving to a rent economy from ownership.Ironic, given that so many free market economists I grew up learning said that one of the biggest failing of Marx was his hysterics that the ruling class of capitalists would buy up everything, leaving everyone else with no option but to pay rent for any durable good. That never happened in the 20th century. But of course, leave it to human beings to snarch defeat from the jaws of victory.
>>28907611What do you think the whole point of 2008 financial crisis + too big to fail would entail?
>>28907636Making money as the expense of everyone else.
>>28907586>>28907611I think its interestingWith the speed of paper mail, there is a limitation on how big you can get. Cities basically used to be parallel universes before the 90s. Without that, we are inn for a very wild ride.It makes me wonder if we are heading straight for a robber baron period, because its now possible for a larger corporation to just leverage their assets as a loan collateral, and just buy out everything trying to completely corning the market.
>>28907654>if we are heading straight for a robber baron periodMotherfucker we've been living in the gilded age 2.0 since at least 2010, possibly even 2002. The fuck you mean, "heading"?
>>28907666The monopolization of the Gilded Age existed due a lack of counter inertia and lack of economic diversification. If this is indeed a second gilded age, we are still not at the monopoly stage where it truly stagnates. But we are very close, we are just a few short years from where you will be unable to run a privat bar, unless its a locked fetish establishment.
>>28907716I was more referring to the rapid consolidation of wealth at the top 10% due to the internet, finance, and now LLM booms. The monopolies in the first go round were down stream of the wealth consolidation created from induatrialization in and following Reconstruction, and I don't see any reason why this time will be different.And also, apropos of nothing, American history books love to simply show Reconstruction -> Gilded Age -> Progressive Era, but they never cover how the newly formed American navy started fucking shit up across Central/South America and the Pacific in order to force open markets to US overproduction.
>>28907654>>28907666>It makes me wonder if we are heading straight for a robber baron periodBuddy beat me to it.
>>28907488Gas is forever subject to geopolitics as gas is sold on global markets and major buyer/sellers are always on hot zone for war. Electric is the way to go. Buy a used Tesla for $15K that gets you ~200 miles of daily driver range. It will save you tons of money. New cars dont make sense in general unless you got a comfortable well paying job. So used EVs are extremely efficient. >Get a 15K Tesla>$5K down>10K loan>$200M/ for 60 months (5 years)Calculate yearly savings cost for gas v electricity usage >https://chargevc.org/ev-calculator/It comes out to ~$2000/y in gas savings ($2500 for gas v $500 for electricity) Thats $200/m + $40/m for electricity total.vsLets say you have a $10K gas car with $5K downNow you're paying $100/m for car loan + $200+m for gas. Lets say you buy a $7K used gas car and with $5K down, thats $40/m in car loan and $200+m in gas alone. Basically a $15K used Tesla costs the same as $7K used gas car. ~12K miles a year drivinggas cost ~$4.16/gallonelectricity cost 15c/kwh3.5 miles/kwh efficiency20 mpg gas car
>>28907488Any good EV brands to look at?What about hybrids?No I don't want a Tesla do don't reply to me with Tesla.
>>28907488Gas is cheap. Inflation last 20 years has been 70% but gas is pretty much the same. You're a zoomer so don't buy an EV because you don't have a house. Renters who buy EVs then wait at charging stations paying 40c/kwh are cucks
>>28908466Outside of the Chinese brands it's just the regular car manufacturers.Hybrids don't really let you drive purely electric and most people don't bother charging them either. Range extenders are a more sensible choice if you're worried about long range trips but battery sizes, charging speeds and (depending on your location) the charging infrastructure have improved to make them less important.
Any of you guys considered refitting your beloved shitboxes as EVs when shit hits the fan for fuel? I couldn't part with her so id probably do it.
>>28908637FWD shit box gonna replace the rear subframe with a miata diff and put an electric motor on it
>>28908637Rywire is working on a kit for the ek generation civic that I've been following
>>28908637They would never let gas prices get TOO high. That’s one of the few things that would make Americans start burning and breaking shit.
>>28907488the prices will not go up foreverat some point they'll just stop selling gas altogethercalifornia already banned gas generators, chainsaws and other stuff so that you can't stay off grid
>>28907488you need to compare gas prices to income and average mpg. diesel has peaked at 3€/ L in my country but its still cheaper for me to drive around than my first job and my first car 20 years ago, and back then i drove 50 000km a year.all fuel prices have been fucked since rus/ukie war started and its worse now since that gulf thing is mostly closed for ships. war itself drive up diesel price since most war machines are diesel powered, a total blockage of a shipping lane drives up the cost of everything. you just lived through both early on. i can assure you that nothing ever happend, in the long run...
>>28907488Gas prices going up is a good thing actually, it gets some of the poor retards off the road
>>28908637I'm not a gay man so no. That being said, prices aren't anywhere near as bad as Biden
