>>28910731Never understood why these never made it here. Probably because the engine looks to be made of metal so it's prohibitively expensive
>>28910731at this point everyone and their grandma knows the barra is a brick shithouse. i believe it's the ecoboost that has a poor reputation, "ecoboom" etc.
>>28910733It's a single cast-iron engine block, not 15 pieces of chink steel>t. 04 Falcon XR6 owner
>>28910733>Never understood why these never made it here. Probably because the engine looks to be made of metal so it's prohibitively expensiveEuro and Aussie Fords always were built to much a higher standard than the US
>>28910731FUCK YOU M8
>>28910736*laughs in headgasket failure*
>>28910733Anything good that had a ford logo on it was made by the least ford people and as mentioned, was too expensive for ford to want to keep making
>>28910750>be ford>steal the 2.0 DISI engine>make it open deck bc too cheap to run a separate block line>fail
>>28910751If this stuff was good, why did bongs and aussies ignore it for chinese slop? you only have yourselves to blame for it not being made. Ford wants money, and if you were buying it it'd still be made.Ford fans in america are the only ones who have any pride in their cars whereas Ford Europe and Ford Australia fans just ignore their shit for the next pile of asian import slop.
>>28910838probably because ford no longer makes cars and engines here?
>>28910731Falcons are pretty much guaranteed to wreck their diff bushes. Also the ZF 6 speeds have notorious solenoid problems, and there's a weak coolant connection that can milkshake the transmission fluid. And Territories are literally guaranteed (every single time) to drop their ball joints if you mount a kerb at full lock.The Barra engine is pretty solid for reliability though. Can't really fault it. But part of that's just because it was detuned from the factory so that it wouldn't eat into the V8 sales too much.>t. Owned a G6E Turbo for 7 years, and sold it for enough profit that it beat the stock market
>>28910752That didn't have anything to do with it and you know it. The design of the engine is irrelevant when you put the wrong gasket on it.
>>28910733Would've been an absolute pearler in the MustangInstead of the gimped N/A V6 that makes everyone say "why didn't you just get the V8?", or the ABSOLUTELY KEKED trim 4 cylinder turbo in a 2 tonne car, a Barra turbo Mustang would be an actually cool alternative trim package to the V8.
>>28911224>and there's a weak coolant connection that can milkshake the transmission fluidliterally every automatic car made in the last like..... 40 years or something... has a transmission fluid heat exchanger in the radiator bro - run coolant, don't overheat your shit, replace your radiator within its service interval or when it appears worn.
>>28910733It wouldn't have a market. Americans only want a V8 when buying muscle cars, and it's too expensive to replace the V6 rentalspec mustangs.
>>28910731>reliable>nobody has swapped one into a plane yet
>>28911409FAA certification only requires the engine to run for 100 hours straight without failure, its not a marker of car use reliability otherwise the subaru headgasket memes wouldnt exist. Also of course an Australian engine doesn't have FAA certification, because there are none in the US...
>>28910734The Ecoboost engines have been mostly reliable, particularly the 'high volume' ones. The 3.5 Ecoboost is easily the best half ton truck engine right now and its not particularly close either. Chevy's 6.2 has been a complete disaster and RAM cannot sell their inline 6s, nobody wants them. Ford is typically ahead of the curve by several years and it shows.
>>28911412The engine doesn't need to be FAA certified if it's going into something "experimental" so it's irrelevant if it's got that rating. I used a plane swap as an example because if that engine fails your chances of dying are pretty high. Therefor you better not claim an engine is reliable unless it's being used in the most mission critical application possible.
>>28911409>>28911421>muh planesSubipoo engines are common in planes, would ANYONE pretend those are reliable?
>>28911442They can be after you bulletproof them and reduce their power. Funny how people will pick a Subapoo engine over a shitty Barra,B58, coyote, etc. That really says a lot when it comes to reliability.
>>28911454So if even a subipoo engine can be reliable after you "bulletproof them and reduce their power" doesn't that prove that ANY engine can be reliable after you "bulletproof them and reduce their power" and the >muh planes shit doesn't actually mean anything?
>>28911506>doesn't that prove that ANY engine can be reliable after you "bulletproof them and reduce their power" and the >muh planes shit doesn't actually mean anything?If that were true you would see all types of engines in planes yet it's the same handful of roadgoing engines that always get swapped.
>Australian attempts to communicate with the outside world
>>28911454Would have more to do with availability and size/weight. A boxer engine is small and low. The barra is a massive engine, heavy long and tall.
>>28911203They don't make them because you didn't buy them. do you not see the problem?
>>28911513It's almost as if plane engines are selected for other reasons like packaging - while reliability, as you already stated yourself, has little bearing.
If only this was taller and had a bigger trunk and an I-pad glued to the dash. Never trust a woman or a government.
>>28911725Ford fixed that for you.
>>28910731>muh fomoco
>>28911767sounds like you've got fomoco fomo bro
>>28911731Basically the same as the Mustang Mach e, innit.
>>28911893This is a Capri.
>>28911224>Territory Isn't that one Chinese?How's the Everest, reliability wise?
>>28911725These these things are trash. I bought one used in '94 WOW what an epic piece of fucking garbage
>>28912893>dominated Group A touring car racing all over the world for half a decade>"ummmm akshually that's trash"Stick to your KIA buddy
>>28912916Have you even owned one?I did , for about a month. I cannot stress enough, WHAT A PIECE OF SHIT IT WAS
>>28911454>just bulletproof it>I just bulletproofed mine>I'm bulletproofing so hard right nowHow about I bash your skull in, since it's just for decoration
>>28912920I know I know it's not comfortable and practical like your KIA, nevermind how much of a GOATed sports tourer it was - who cares about that stuff anyway?
>>28910731I don't get it either
>>28912888The Ford Territory was entirely designed and made in Australia. It came with the Barra engine, and was basically an AWD Falcon SUV.The Everest and Ranger are complete turds, according to my Ford mechanic cousin. He says they have a habit of blowing up engines. Also, "Ranger danger" is real - they're absolutely the worst drivers on the road.
>>28911602>The barra is a massive engine, heavy long and tall.So why the fuck would you want that in a roadgoing vehicle?>>28911722Have you seen the size of something like a V12 Merlin? Lycomings aren't exactly compact either. >>28912951Do what you gotta do but make sure you apply for your skull bashing license.
>>28913452>So why the fuck would you want that in a roadgoing vehicle?Because its a car, people don't care about an extra 50kg over the front axle when it makes a shit load of power.
>>28913523Falcons handle like absolute shit though. My G6ET would understeer on the way into corners because the engine was so heavy, and powerslide on the way out because it inexplicably had an open diff.
>>28913523Okay so if weight and size doesn't matter then why would you even consider a small displacement i6 over a big block V8? Why would you use a big ass 4 liter engine when you could fit a 8+ liter V8 in it's foorprint? Gee and you people wonder why these never made it to America lol.
>>28913452People aren't putting Subipoo engines in they spitfires lmao
>>28913541Why are there Americans paying to import them?
>>28913787I'm proud of Yankees for thisI didn't think they'd be cultured enough to recognise the greatness of the Barra and go to those lengths.
>>28911700lol the rwd models for both ford and holden had six month long waiting lists all the way to the end. nobody wanted their fwd slop
>>28911421Post experimental. This is so fucking dumb.
>>28913791>six month long waiting list to sell a few thousand more cars before shutting down>meanwhile the rest of australia lined up to buy chinese slop to the point that chinese cars are overtaking japanese in sales in australiayou retards are embarrassing. no wonder you never left the commonwealth.
>>28913787where? I've honestly never seen australian anything in america except for the official sold chevy SS and pontiac G8 cars. americans are more concerned with importing kei junk from japan to stick it to their boomer parents who don't care.
>>28913864There's a few barras getting around the drag scene, it's definitely not a widespread thing, more of a quirk chungus sorta deal.
>>28910733>Never understood why these never made it here.For all intents and purposes, Ford AUS is a completely separate company.Same goes for Ford EU, although there is soe level of coordination as to shared platforms with the US.
>>28911224A gorgeous machine.Any of picrel in your part of the world?
>>28911278>copiumFords the kind of company to blame a gasket than a major design flaw in the engine block on saving money. The Mazda design specified closed deck for forced induction, and open deck for NA. Ford is too cheap to tool for two different block productions. Anyway, they got Europe to finally fudge the design a little more and get them off the 2001 Mazda L series
>>28913861>people avoid overpriced stuff and buy the thing they want at the cheapest pricegee willikers what a shocker
>>28911421This is precisely why Rotary engines are so popular with aircraft conversions because they don't 'blow up' like recipros.
