>tfw America will never EVER get good EVs because our oil overlords are afraid of having their car CEO buddies having to compete and actually make good products for cheap and compete with the Chinese, so we'll just ban and tariff the shit out of them because... THEY'RE JUST BAD, WE KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR YOU OKAY
>>28911712We have good EVs. they're called tesla. chinese evs are just cut down teslas.
>>28911717Cuck
>>28911712>NOOO WE NEED TO HAND OVER MORE OF OUR INDUSTRIAL CAPACITY AND JOBS TO OUR ENEMIES FOR MORE BINGBING WAHOO AND CHEAP PLASTIC SHIT why are freetradecucks like this
>>28911720That's how you end up with Lada, retard.
Turns out by "helping blue collar American heartland workers" he just means people who make weapons and military vehicles.Oh, did killing some civilians increase fuel prices? Might as well give up one of our last civilian industries to the Chinese! >Pew pew boom! Look at those suckers die while I get rich!
>>28911721that's how you end up with the rust belt retard.
>>28911723Oh, these missiles are $2 to $5 million dollars each? No problem, the taxpayers will pay for it as I allow China to gut our county's civilian industry. Tarriffs? It's too late for that bud, it's a global economy and we make almost nothing here.
>admits Detroit can't compete with Xi's subsidized slave labor
>>28911721also lada probably makes better shit than ford
>>28911720>i cant compete lollmao
>>28911710>Geez, this marginal increase in fuel costs sure are bleeding me dry, guess I'll have to spend thousands of sheckles on a new car to save some money!I will never understand this train of thought.
>>28911770Sane people don't spontaneously replace their old car with a more efficient one, but they take efficiency into account when purchasing a new car anyway.
>>28911794>Oh honey, the alternator went out! We NEED a new car!>Oh honey, gas is $5/gal, we NEED to spend 20k to switch to an EV!Meanwhile I'm redlining my 30 year old car daily.
>>28911717they are ev's they are not good. but for a time they where the only ones around.
>>28911710Chinese quality lmao whose buying these? I'm assuming poor fags. Has no one seen what happens to Chinese vehicles in minor fender benders? The cars literally get totalled. Plenty of jewtube videos of it
>nooooooo you can't just give chinks money, you have to continue giving your money to sandniggers
I wonder how well these EVs work when we don't have no natural gas to make electricity anymore next winter.
>>28911882If you own an EV and you don't have solar at home to charge it with, you're an idiot. It's that simple.Don't have solar? Hybrid.Have solar? EV.Everybody stop foaming at the mouth with seethe, it's that fucking simple.
>>28911885Hybrids are gay and soulless. Either get pure petrol car and enjoy the drive or get EV and enjoy all the comforts of electric motors. Hybrids give you all the headache of ICE with none of its fun aspects.
Why are Chinese cars THE line in the sand and the hill so many want to die on?Like 90% of the garbage you own is already made in China, but THIS is the line? Suddenly NOW you care where your shit is made?
>>28911885Solar EV charging is only feasible if you're at home when the sun shines, and - depending on your solar setup - can take a long time.
>>28911885Is Amerimutt power generation really that unreliable or what? Charging from the electrical grid here in Europe is cheap and reliable. A fraction of the cost of petrol or diesel.
>>28911890That is actually really strange.
>>28911890If a group of people uses slave labor and decades of stolen industrial secrets, their products will be cheaper. But it will lead to more slavery elsewhere. 20 years later and your kid can't even afford to finance a Chink EV.
>>28911895Just get a second EV with V2H as a backup. It's cheaper than other battery storage.
>>28911896Self-produced solar is far cheaper.Why wouldn't you have solar if you already own a house?
>>28911895I've got a 5kw system, I get around 30kw a day, even after usage I safely have about 20kw left over. I could fully charge the average EV in 3 days from flat. Or kwH or whatever the fuck the correct terms are.There are obviously cases where EVs aren't the correct car, but plenty where they are. Also I'm a work from home chad so it would suit me perfectly. If you had to drive a significant distance every day, then yes taking 3 days to charge it would be an issue, but if you're just driving around locally and to the shops and shit, and only need to charge like 10% a day, it's fine.
Copying is cheaper than spending billions over decades perfecting the minutae of machine design and industrial processes! Wow. It's almost like no one should even try to do anything at all!
>>28911890A car is tremendously more complicated mechanical construction than a phone or a vacuum cleaner. The reason why Chinese aren't trusted is because a car is also dealing with the aspects of safety and reliability and even image.Even in the west, there is a very clear cut perception around cars made in Italy, US, France, Germany or Sweden. Cars are not just something you can start doing from out of the blue. You need decades of experience and trial and error. The Chinese have not had that. EVs enabled them to skip some learning but we are now seeing that EVs from traditionally ICE brands like BMW and Mercedes absolutely BTFO the chink/Tesla crap. Their small head start is fading fast.
>>28911902In some places of the world, electricity from the grid is cheap and reliable enough that it's barely worth the effort. Especially if you live in some cloudy ass northern country with few amount of sun hours.
>>28911907If you're Norwegian then you already have an EV.
>>28911885Your solar isn't worth shit in the winter. I know because I have solar. If you're unlucky you won't see a glimpse of the sun for 4 months straight.
>>28911907By buying electricity at the spot price I get almost the same, with zero investment and hardware.Last week I got 3.5ct back for every kWh I consumed for 2 hours.
>>28911898Personally I'd worry about them affording a house, utilities, food... The country is already pretty fucked with that, and buying a car from Europe or Korea or Mexico isn't going to fix it.Also I'm so fucking sick of the MUH SLAVERY argument. None of you have ever cared about slavery before, don't act like you suddenly do. You never gave two shits about the jeets making your clothes for 3 cents a day before, or Nestle exploiting whatever tribe of darkies it is, and you don't give any shits now.
>>28911914Works in my country :)
>>28911918People can't afford a house and food when your only industries are corn and onlyfans.I have always cared about workers' rights. America is "better" because of our quality of life, right? You take that away and and we become literal slaves to monopolies. Not a political side thing, that's just what's going to happen. America spends more on interest on debt than even defense, we need to create civilian industry again.
Make Israel great again. Also this belongs on the pol board
>>28911896Retard. We barely made it over the winter with the natural gas reserves we had, and now the stores are empty and have to be filled up over the year - which is looking doubtful. So we'll start next winter with even less gas.
>>28911770>>28911795This retard doesn't know that 100 million new cars are purchased every year.
>>28911939Your point?
>>28911944That people buy new cars all the time.
>>28911947Amazing. I guess we'd better stop making cars! The money just shows up, right? (Ignores the seveal years of GDP worth of debt we're paying interest on).Our kids won't have money? Too bad! (High-trust society).>Capitalism is about working hard and creating new things! It's beautiful and the pride of white America! Ha, fuck you guys I'm going to buy off the Chinese that copied Americans' work! I'm so smart!
>>28911955It's not that astonishing that someone wants to support domestic production.The curious thing is, that this is only a thing when cars are concerned.
>>28911955The Americans have profited off the Chinaman's labor for decades now. Nothing is free in this world, mutt. Pay up.
>>28911958>The curious thing is, that this is only a thing when cars are concerned.Is it, though?>>28911960That's the thing about capitalism - it only works when everyone starts at the same time with the same resources and opportunity. One generation can just exploit everything, complain about low trust society, and tell their kids to enjoy being raped.I'm a capitalist, but if someone gets ahead by copying with no cooperation then fuck them. You can't claim to base your ideology on merit then only give money to the fats that copy.
>>28911936Time to get a heat pump.
>>28911955Huh? What does this have to do with the faggot crying that people shouldn't be buying new EVs, when 100 million new cars are purchased every year.
/o/ is such a comically shit board. Like the jerry springer of car talk.
>>28911710>do nothing>wini kneel chinkbros
>>28911710Based China.Literally do nothing and win the entire world.Trump burns 40 billion dollars just to lose everything.
>>28912177They're not winning shit unless you see actually these cars all over your roads. With your own eyes. In material reality. This board has a lot of third world shills or actual fools.Even the CCP has cracked down on car companies recently because they're lying about their sales. They get government incentives to build, so lying is inevitable. The same shit happened with their real estate issues, where they got incentives and built a fuckton of skyrises with no actual occupants.https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/local-chinese-governments-promote-zero-mileage-used-car-exports-inflating-sales-2025-06-23/That's their own government that are sick of this shit. Even the CCP knows a bad longterm move. Because China itself is a scammy shithole..even to their own people.
>>28912179The entire world's oil tankers are redirecting to America where you think it's a "loss".And one enemy's navy, air power, radar is crippled..and you larp as if it's winning too. What is it with brownoids and trying to do absurd face saving bullshit at all times?
>>28911712Tesla exists. Its THE best EV car in the world. Unless you've castrated yourself and drank the marxist koolaid
>>28911720If we suck that bad at making cars then the Chinese should do it for us and we can focus on something we're better at
>>28912259Wow thanks milton friedman you're a fucking genius. Guess we should just destroy all our domestic industry and become the bitches of china oh wait we already did and look where it's gotten us. This country is spiralling down the shitter and coastie liberal faux intellectuals like you are the reason. >let's sell off our industry to an enemy and let in 80 bajillion mexicans what could possibly go wrong
Bunjabong Nepayahoo here, we would just like to thank Donol Trump our greatest ally and faithful servant for advancing our goals faster and more than anyone else in history
>>28912245>DARPA, through a shell corp and shell entity, makes the best battery cars bro!
>>28911812English is not your native language>>28911717Absolute truth nuke.Pretty insane that Tesla production is in Commifornia too, thats like the single most expensive place you could make a car on earth.Its also why Im not worried about anything.
>>28912299So what youre saying is the US is better than China? Because the entire Chinese auto industry is propped up by their government.This is a really funny thought.
>>28912352What I'm saying is you're a smoothbrain hung up on kayfabe
>>28912355I dont know what that is and Im not going to look it up but know that you are a retard and I make more money than you
