Why is an i6 more appealing to a v6?
>>28916405a v6 is basically two i3s which, as we all know, is the most soulless engine configuration2x0=0
>>28916407Basically this. V6 feels like compromise, whereas an inline6 is the real deal.
>>28916405The i6 is an inherently balanced engine the physics are all in agreement everything is fine.With a v6 you have problems. Engineers don't want v6 it's bad but the accountants and marketers want the v6. The V6 engine is the monument to engineers putting lipstick on a pig. They try and try but it's never going to be as good as an i6 or a v8.
v6s are functionally superior, the only reason anyone likes i6s is because they are usually overbuilt and detuned to handle the stresses involved in operation; even though they are naturally balanced the long i6 block, cams, and crank are subject to torsional energy that limits potential displacement and increases the weight of the block.V engines were developed to replace inline engines at a time when it was harder to engineer a long inline block that could withstand the stresses of utility work. V6s were first used in heavy trucks because they were physically stronger than the i6s they replaced. V8s replaced I8s for a similar reason. Inline engines just suck. That's all there is to it. Anyone claiming they are good is a busrider and a moron.
>>28916425Imagine being so desperate to troll people that you defend the v6. Talk about cutting of you nose to spite your face.
>>28916439why do all i6 "fans" talk like huge fags using vague metaphor and do-nothing words? did you get chatgpt to write this response?
>>28916445 I’m not the fag you’re replying to. Just another fag with questions. While the I6 is favored for its durability and tuning potential (seen in legendary engines like the Toyota 2JZ or BMW B58), the V6's cost-effectiveness and versatility in diverse vehicle architectures make it the industry standard for mass production. Basically it’s just cheaper?
I6 engines are built well, v6's are hated because they are the default "premium" option that show either you are too poor for a v8+ but too insecure for a i4. Very few manufacturers actually try to do anything with V6 like Nissan does.
>>28916453Hondas j35 v6 outlasts bmws i6. Even though the i6 is “over built” superior blah blah nonsense. I don’t think any of you know what you’re talking about honestly. You just ChatGPT answers at this point.
>>28916461>bmwsThere's your problem.
>>28916461If the v6 platform is so great it must be popular with trucks and heavy machinery right? Oh wait it's not. There's no such thing as a heavy v6 it's always i6 in heavy applications. The v6 in car applications only exists because it's attractive to marketers an accountants.
>>28916405Ai Slopp
>>28916485There it is! Hi Mr. Autist!
>>28916462You seriously attacking bmw? Are you new here?
>>28916499Bmw think you're too retarded to check your own oil fuck bmw
>>28916411>inherently balancedGod this trope again.That trait means nothing.We're not sand casting on a floor in a barn.We have harmonic balancers and counterweights now.There are V8 race cars that rev to 20k RPMs and I4 motorcycles sold down the block that live at 13k RPMs for hours upon hours, day after day. Those engines are better balanced than any I6 ever produced.The I6 is trash.It holds zero motorsports records.The only people still clinging to them are semi manufacturers and retards like at BMW.Take your outdated fanboi bullshit back to /mlp/
>>28916499Please list all the records BMW currently holds.
>>28916566>We have harmonic balancers and counterweights now.AKA bandaids. AKA lipstick on a pig. Solutions to a problem that doesn't exist with a proper layout like inline 6 or v8.
>>28916497>Defending Ai slop.
>>28916407Actually it's 3 V twins which is the most sovlful configuration excluding the V8
>>28916407Skill issue, triples are great.
>>28916425l8s sound orgasmic thoughhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FofFWRcphQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BJHsoVRVMs
>>28916686>>28916693in motorcycles, not cars
>>28916693Still rather have i4
>>28916573You dont even understand what "inherently balanced" means.Its a misnomer.Fucking moron.
>>28916461toyota's 2jz-ge outlasts bmw's i6, must be a pretty low bar
>>28916405>IESLB
>>28916467>If the v6 platform is so great it must be popular with trucks and heavy machinery right?that is literally what the v6 was invented forhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GMC_V6_engine>>28916686based knower123456 is literally a biblically perfect firing order
>>28916693I4>I2>pedals>walking>crawling>public transport>shit>I3
>>28916499>pretending to be an oldfag We've been making fun of BMW since you were in diapers nigger
There's no such thing as a bad sounding inline 6. V6s are hit or miss. The greats like the Ferrari 296 or Mercedes C43https://youtube.com/shorts/igNXH9DkHF0?si=oU-rhkTMD4lf-zIi...are far outnumbered by ear molesters like the V6 Mustang or Edgar's G37https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k1LPRIKplQ
>>28916782kekd n rekt
>>28916573harmonic balancers are still used on l6s to counter torsional flex. my old 7m had a big fat crank pulley and not just because of all the accessory belts, it was pretty heavy too.still though i luv me straight sixes, working on jap ones at least is pretty comfy
The V6 inherently is the worst-sounding engine configuration. Even I3s have more potential as a raspy hive of angry bees at least has some sort of character.
>>28916451The inline 6 is balanced and smooth and simple. It’s only got one set of things and it has low vibration which means it’s very comfortable for drivers and has luxury application. On top of this it’s simpler and has room all around it and so it’s generally less weight. The downside is that it is long and the weight is spread out over a long area which means it’s got to be in a longitudinal car. The V6 is Inherently unbalanced so engineers have to add in counterweights to help balance it so it doesn’t vibrate and annoy occupants. It has two cylinder heads and two exhaust manifolds etc. it has the same power as an i6 but it has more weight, worse NVH, more complexity. The upside is that it is half as long and so it can fit in a transverse engine space such as the Camry. Therefore it has more use applications to spread out the development cost as Toyota for example can use it in the Camry and the Lexus line up where an inline 6 only works in the luxury cars with longitudinal layouts. The V6 is always worse than an equal inline 6. The V8 is inherently balanced and smooth and has the power of 8 cylinders in the length of a 4 cylinder. So that’s why it’s favored as the sportiest and most luxurious engines outside of the ‘exotic’ V10- V12 stuff.
what is with all these weird say-nothing chat gpt posts thumping I6sdid bmw hire a shitload of indians to shill their worthless engines or what?
>>28917393> it has more weight, worse NVH, more complexity. this is completely wrong v6s are lighter and simpler to manufacture, that's why they exist
>>28916407>>28916409Inline-6 fags enjoy crank and cam flex. Front cylinders are many degrees out of time with rear cylinders. Who would know though when all 6 cylinders have variable manifold density. V-6 Chad's laugh.
Bitches cry about a V6 but flip the second a GTR R35 is mentioned
>>28916782>There's no such thing as a bad sounding inline 6Oh there sure as fuck is. BMW's sound like wet aids farts. Cummins 5.9/6.7's are not exactly good sounding. >>28917473R35's sound like Chewbacca fucking a dying dinosaur.
>>28917473I do not care for the R35.It insists upon itself.
>>28916782Sounds like ass.
>>28917631>Sounds r bad so iz bad >>28917633Valid, but let's not beat around the bush. Izza quick car and people do backflips for a tt v6
>>28917409I6 is used on the most reliable engines in the world usually diesels engines. I had the jeep 4.0 I6 and it was great all around to use and work on.
>>28917473Nah. Nissan made some of the most epic I6 out of nippon, their move over to V6 was always disappointment. Long I6 history. For comparison, toyota didn't design their own 6 cyl engine until 1988, and even still the toyota VZ is said to be a copy of Nissan VG
>>289171937m is trash. go change your headgasket
Its all about packaging. Inline-6 has high hood line and longer nose. The v-6 simply fits better.
>>28917817>fitsLiterally the only thing a V6 has going for it, well that an inherent potential for a stiffer crank
>>28917822stiffer crank stiffer block higher torsional tidigity higher displacement, higher rpm, v6 absolutely mogs inline sissies
>>28917813The VG raped the RB left right and center thoughbeit, the only reason the RB stayed around was aftermarket, it was considered an inferior engine otherwise.
>>28917815i already did then right after racked up 30,000 miles thrashing it. only thing to note was that it was thirstier on oil than usual which is to be expected when you're constantly revving it to 6000 rpm
all the v6 hate is from german car renters because krauts can't make a good one
>>28917937I6 makes more power at lower RPM and sounds better. V6 is simply a smaller package but sucks more. Better than having a 4banger everyday of the week and having to pay out for a V8 with gas being this high. No free lunch.
>>28917473Because nissan is the only company to actually do anything with the V6, everyone else gave up around the 90's and just used it as the mid-tier option.
>>28917836amerigroid cope
>>28916740But i thought 6 was the number of the devil
>>28918074>Because nissan is the only company to actually do anything with the V6>forgetting the based 3800, pentastar, and duratec 30
>>28916407>most soulless engine configurationSay that again big guy.
>>28918102You mean the "not rich enough for the V8" engine option? I already said that's what most companies do with their v6's.
>>28918074>Because nissan is the only company to actually do anything with the V6wut
>>28918245all of the v6 engines I just mentioned were equal or more powerful than any V8 offered at the time of their introduction. The 3800 mogged the LT1, the Duratec mogged the Ford mod, and the Pentastar mogs the pre-Eagle hemi.
V6s have a nice throaty growl while i6s sound like a prius with a stolen catI cannot believe any bmw driver thanks that raspy piece of shit sounds good, it's like a civic and a two stroke having sex.
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>>28918291Can any American car beat this?
>>28918292pentastar chally with a few simple mods
>>28916405zoomlattoes who grew up on F&F and NFS and "built not bought" retardation and so think the Supra/Skyline/E46 are the greatest cars ever built.
