Do you think big companies will ever make vehicles that are not terrible again?I realized that I don't feel like it will happen. We are trapped in horrible clown world. My truck will astronomically skyrocket in value, like all other older vehicles, because it is like sitting in the past a little bit.Everything is horrible but in my truck it is 1992 forever :>We could talk about how they are better because they don't break and put up with horrendous/comical levels of abuse that no modern vehicle could ever tolerate and stuff but we all already know.
>>28920447*bends ur hood*
>>28920447Can’t wait to 12v swap my brick nose dually
>square body>ford aero nose
>>28920546the correct term is “OBS Ford”, but I consider everything before the 1997 blob era to be a square body, even if if has a modified nose
>>28920579Its was called aero nose before you were born.Just because youre a clueless faggot that saw them as "old" when you discovered cars as a kid doesnt mean the rest of the world is going to call the fucking 9th generation of F series obs.Ill bet you refer to the 8th gen as obs also.What do you call the 6th gen?Or 3rd gen?Retard.
>>28920658>Oh no, someone else doesn't autisticly categorize things the same way I do. Better get offended about it!
>>28920447>GMT400 enters the chatYeah, I don't fucking think so homo
>>28920733Square body is the name of the 70s to 80s GM pickups.
>>28920733"OBS" was coined by people without knowledge.It's like going to a Mexican restaurant and instead of ordering a burrito you ask for a "tortilla meat tube".Youre a symptom of the dumbing down of society. Instead of seeking answers you fill in gaps with your imagination.Youre the reason people dont believe we went to the moon over 50 years ago. Because your brain cant comprehend it.Youre a failure as a human.
>>28920748Lol. >Implying I don't know the proper terms for the different body styles of Ford pickups. I'm not op, I just really couldn't give any less of a shit what someone else calls something or how they categorize it. Maybe you should try taking your meds...
>>28920752>couldn't give any less of a shit what someone else calls somethingGo to autozone next time your battery is dead and say you need a "sparky box".Or when you do an oil change ask them for "engine syrup".Since you dont care about proper nomenclature it shouldn't matter, right?Embrace that concept in all aspects of your life.
That square body is looking kind of round. Consider the GM rounded line series of trucks. It is considerably more square.
>>28920762>still seethingLol. Lmao even. I bet you drive a dick nose/mexican body style ford.
>>28920748>Be OP>Refuse to use standardized terms so people can know what I am talking about>Get upset when others tell me I'm wrong>Say what is unironically the funniest shit to defend my dumb shit positionI don't even know what to say, OP. You're retarded but I love you.
>>28920465>duallyJust stop with the nonsense.>but but but I need it to tow!!No.
>>28920805He's gotta haul a bunch of fur fags around and be a filthy degenerate.
>>28920805Dont engage with the dog fucker.Hes a mentally ill faggot that feeds off of (you)s like a parasite.
>>28920579>the correct term is “OBS Ford”No it's not.NINTH generation is the only official vernacular, not some fag hillbilly's arbitrary naming.picrel are also the best wheels for the livery, as they should ONLY exist as 4wd
ITT: Pedants arguing over the "correct" colloquial terms for old trucksGuys you're missing the point. Aside from rust and the degradation of 30+ year old rubber, those old trucks were unstoppable because they were designed as utility vehicles first and foremost. Less to break, less to care about, better body ground clearance, better visibility, critical pieces made from metal instead of plastic, and more compact body lines helped them fit their intended purpose. Let's appreciate their simplicity and the squarish styling of those days.
>>28920818Yep, good points.You articulated what matters here.
The 300 and the 7.3 IDI are the only proper engines for the older Ford trucks. There is no debate. Fuck your 5.0, 5.8 and 460. Trash fuel hogs, not proper work horses.
>>28920824300 is a tractor engine with shit performance.If all you do with your truck is drop hay in fields, fine. Get one.I actually use my trucks on highway.And im not poor so fuel mileage isnt an issue.
>>28920824Have a 1993 Centurion 4 door F-150 that I am planning on swapping a 351 and ZF 5-speed into as well as a solid axle Dana 44 from a late 70's F-150. One of my son's college buddies is pulling a good running 351 and ZF out of a mid 90's f-250 to Cummins swap it and I'm going to trade him a good 7.3idi ZF5 for his 351 engine and transmission. The 302 and auto combo that is in the Centurion now is just anemic and I hate autos.
>>28920824Its a 302, 351 and 460 you broccoli head. No one wanted a 300 6 pot in a truck. Its slow as ahit and sounds like a minivan. 6 cylinders are woman engines
>>28920831My buddy is a roofer and complains all day about how his highway commute with his 300 costs too much. It's manual at least.>>28920843I can't even comprehend why even bother with those gassers. I love my IDIs so much. Will run 100 percent waste oil and still starts fine in -20F. >>28920843Broccoli heads don't even know what diesels are.
>>28920813OBS ford is correct for it
>>28920888You can't comprehend it because you've never experienced the joy and love of a 460 casually grunting your shitty RV around like it's nothing. You can't comprehend it because you've never heard a 302 or a 351 actually work as they were always intended to, as faithful, reliable servants to a humble master. Some things are greater than numbers on a page, and are greater than the sum of their parts. Your generation is a waste. You cannot comprehend anything outside of superlatives. You should go outsidemaxxing and socialmaxxing so you can learn to be a normal fucking person, you waste of an egg.
>>28920890>OBS ford is correct for itNo it's not.Go back to your fucking Uhaul desk, bitch.>YOU: Hey Denny, do we have any of the OBS trucks available?>Denny: The fuck are you talkin about?
>>28920888>waste oilWho gives a fuck.Youre not going to live through a Mad Max apocalypse and restaurants dont throw away their frying oil anymore.You'd make more money spending your time collecting cans off the highway than what you'd save collecting and filtering waste oil.
>>28920890>old body styleWho defined it as "old"?What was it called when it was "current"?What do you call an 8th gen? Or 4th gen?
>>28920946Gas babies need extra help igniting their own fuel. Each and every combustion you need your hand held. 460s are decent. Had one in a Lincoln but I'd never trust one for a truck. It's extremely odd because last I checked Freightliners, Caterpillars, Mack, Peterbuilt all rely on diesel engines for their work. Every single hotshotter I ever met use trucks with diesel engines. One guy told me how he tried to use his six liter LS motor and got destroyed by fuel costs. And before you even try diesels can be built for serious performance as well. Even you're drag racing or doing something as Le Mans. Audi's V10 TDI was so overpowered that Le Mans had to change rules to kill it's advantage.>filtering waste oilsNot really dude. Would just pump it into the tank directly from trusted small shops I would visit. Motor oil primarily. If there was any used ATF involved I'd just let it sit in my barrel overnight with a huge magnet at the bottom. But for the most part just dump in used oil with no filteration whatsoever.
>>28921010This is some weird fanfiction.Its like a preschooler bragging that he has a glue stick to a kid with a jar of paste.>Gas babies need extra help igniting their own fuelIll take "glow plugs" for $200, Alex.>Freightliners, Caterpillars, Mack, Peterbuilt>hotshotterWho gives a fuck about industrial machinery or some driver that made such poor decisions in life that he has to make rent money by spending half his life sleeping in a hotel or truck cab?>Would just pump it into the tank directly from trusted small shops I would visitNo.You didnt.>If there was any used ATF involved I'd just let it sit in my barrel overnight So which was it?Pumped it into your tank or took it home in a barrel?
>>28921004When round NBS came out
>>28921010You broccoli-heads cannot contemplate outside the superlative.>Oh you need spark plugs, thus my engine betterDid you pay attention in biology, zoomer? Do you understand the concept "survival of the fittest"? Evidently not. >All these professionals use dieselsAll these professionals are professionals, doing a repeated task. Your average chucklefuck isn't a professional. A new diesel is more expensive to run in daily use than a gasser, and the premium over a gasser is so great that even if the cost of diesel was lower, the cost-savings over a gasser won't be felt for decades. Doing long-distance towing as a professional? Sure. Get the diesel. >Filtering waste oilsExcept this doesn't really work. People who do it keep one tank filled with the commercial stuff and one filled with the home brew. They use the commercial stuff to start the truck and before shut off, and switch to the homebrew for running. And even then, you're not doing that. Even your little soliloquy down there is a hypothetical. You keep saying "would." The truth is you're not doing anything that requires a diesel, and neither are most people. Which means all the meaningless superlatives you cling to are just that. Meaningless. The average man will be better served by a 302. It may not be the baddest fire breathing torque-monster around, but it will do its job dutifully and cost pennies to buy and pennies to maintain compared to a diesel. The only thing it won't do is let you LARP as a professional who will continue work during the apocalypse.
>>28921042Thats not an answer to any of those questions you fucking esl moron
>>28921042>more nonsenseI got yer NBS right here.Go ahead and call Ford for parts with that nonsense.>Yeah uh, you got a master cylinder for an NBS?>What?? **click**
>>28921054NTA, but you call any parts store and ask for parts for an OBS Ford or Chevy, they're going to know more or less what you're talking about and ask for more details.
>>28921053>>28921054When round shit came out it made sense retards.
>>28921056Theyre going to know youre a retard and then ask you the fucking year, model and engine size.>I need a throttle body for an OBS Ford>well sir, the 9th gen F 150 had 3 engine sizes and was available in Speed Density and later Mass Air configurations.
>>28921069You've never talked to anybody at an auto parts store. You don't wrench, do you?>I need parts for an OBS Ford. >What year and engine?>1994, 300 six. >We have eleventy-eight hundred of them in the back. Which brand do you want? >What's the cheapest?>We'll give you five dollars to take the Motorcraft one.
>>28921059Dude I fucking OWNED a 9th gen when the 10th gen was released.We did not call the 9th gen "the old body style'".The term "OBS" is from retarded fucking millenials who are staring at trucks in the next lane from the back seat of their mom's civic.
>>28921071You just proved my point.>I need parts for an OBS Ford.>*sigh* WHAT FUCKING YEAR AND ENGINE?
>>28921076They're gonna do that regardless of what you say. Nobody is using this term to order parts, but anybody who hears it will know what it means. You're just upset because you don't like it and also when you were a child a man who claimed to be your uncle did things with a garden hose that haunt you to this day.
>>28921059Do you need to take a moment to load google translate?>>28921004>Who defined it as "old"?>What was it called when it was "current"?>What do you call an 8th gen? Or 4th gen?I swear to God giving third worlders access to western society was a mistake.
>>28921033>Implying every diesel is even equipped with glowplugs.LMAO My IDIs plugs have been disconnected since Clinton was president. Show me the glow plugs on a 6BT. Glowplugs are not required for continuous operation of a diesel engine, unlike spark plugs.Yeah just dump it in. It all depends on what's in it. If it's oil I just dump it in.Used ATF gets the magnet.>>28921045You're not doing anything that requires a gasoline motor. Horses and electric exist. This is a thread about old Ford trucks.ITT: Gas babies who never even researched diesel engines.
>>28921082Except gas engines do daily business better than horses and diesels. Most things do their job better than horses. You're just a larper. Get over yourself, zoomie.
>>28921082>Filename starts with "screenshot"Dude is trying to fake his hypothetical scenario
>>28921082>my diesel starts in -20°F with the glow plugs disconnected.Take your fantasy LARP bullshit back to plebit
>>28921078The only people who use that term are clueless millenials like yourself.>oh wow the other hood rats can understand me when I speak in ebonics!!Shocker.Seriously dude.Your knowledge is so limited you resorted to referring to the Ninth Generation of something as "the old one".Because your view of the world is limited to your immediate perspective. Youre the center of the universe and anything outside of your bubble doesnt exist.What do you call an 6th gen?
I hate the "I know what I get" boomerniggers that make getting these things under 8k nearly impossible even if it has 200k mi+ on it
>>28921091OBS
>>28921088>Filename starts with "screenshot"Busted, lol.
>>28921092It's the last of the TIB/TTB trucks (with some F250 exceptions later on).They have enough electronics to have modern performamce & drivability without being too much that they fight modifications and spawn gremlins.Everything after went to shit.
>>28921087 >>28921089Lmao. Y'all are retarded. I guess my entire life experience and the existence of the logistics industry is a lie. Guess farmers are using Honda K20s in their Tractors too.>>28921089
>>28921082>DuallyWTF is wrong with you people?Do you enjoy just wasting gas and money for an extra 2 tires that you don't need?You don't Tow a 30 foot AirstreamYou don't Plow snowYou're not a Tow TruckRemove the Dually.
>>28921108Nobody is saying farmers are using Honda engines, you walking bird's nest. You're just making shit up to be mad at.
You babies are absolutely insufferable..it's been common knowledge for decades that diesels can run waste fuels. Newer ones need a few extra steps but this thread is about old Ford trucks.
Beautiful day out here in my OBS ford
>>28921112Duallys great. Can't daily one? Skill issue. Or you can get a W124 benz if you want small. Either runs pure waste oil. Free fuel is free, especially when diesel is 5 a gallon.
>>28921112See >>28921087
>>28921121>Duallys great.No it is NOT.You are not Cooter from fuckin Dukes of Hazard.Decommission the Dually
>>28921115>in my OBS fordIt's not even a Ford...
>>28921128Retard
>>289211258ft bed is glorious and came in clutch while moving. Dually rear offers great traction in the snow. I was gonna mount a 5th wheel so I could bring up some clean southern cars but I found a comfy job that offered consistently good pay. Crew cab is great for hauling my kids. I don't understand the issue with dailying a dually other than it cant go through automated car washes. Admittedly it sometimes requires a J turn or creativity using smaller parking lots.
>>28921108Why are you talking about tractors on an automotive board?Take it to /n/.
>>28921056Theres no difference between this and Tyrone calling any handgun a glock.Congrats on winning the race to the bottom of society.
>>28921114>Posts picture of a different truckHoly shit bro, let it go.
>>28921257>Implying I've only owned one. (1)
>>28921114>I saved 4 dollars by pouring the oil from my last oil change into my tank!!How poor are you that spending the time collecting waste oil is worth the effort??I can run a gasoline engine off corn i distilled in my backyard.I never will because society is never going to collapse to that level so its just an interesting encyclopedia type fact.Nobody gives a shit about either.
>>28921257
>>28921290Holy shit, did you put the steering wheel on in the dark, while drunk and blind, with your feet?
>>28921293I'm not sure if you're aware of mathematics but think about 20 gallons of waste oil that's free. Now think about 20 gallons of diesel that goes between 4-5 USD a gallon. Adds up quick. Now consider how much money is saved by a few hundred gallons over time. Small shops, shade tree mechanics, few other places. I post a listing in KikeBook marketplace "collecting used oil" and score from Boomers who can't be bothered to drop their waste oil off at garages and parts stores. Some don't wanna risk getting their trunks dirty. Either way it's simple math and saved me boat loads of money
>>28921297The guy who I got it from was a carpenter not a mechanic. I personally don't care how the wheel fits. Lmao
>>28921302So you spend time posting, responding and driving to random places to pickup used oil?Lol.Dude.Maybe you should spend that time taking some online classes and get a degree so you can get a decent job and not be so fucking poor that the cost of fuel is something that changes how you spend your life.
Somehow , someway a super autistic diesel monkey is the one who is posting the most old Ford trucks in an old Ford truck thread. You Gas Faggots gotta step up your game..I do miss the brown a bricknose. Was cleaner than the white but I definitely needed a crew cab.
>>28921315I feel no need to associate my trucks with a shit thread.
>>28921312Wrong again. I got a decent job. This was something I did for my own fetish. It really gets my dick hard to show people that these old Fords can eat straight waste oil. If you scroll up there are retards that don't believe me even though there are countless dudes online who are also doing it. Keep being mad. Accept the truth. Most gas motors are garbage in trucks. Not my pic but found it online. Would love to own another ambulance but NOW I simply do not have proper space to store one.
>>28920890>OBS fordLike this?
>>28921340OBS is 92-97
>>28921351Retarded beyond belief
>>28921354Keep on seething autistic man child
>>28920459really fat fuck detected. Id be surprised if you could even clamber on the hood of the OP trugg, fatty.
>>28921355Why pick 9th gens specifically and not any of the previous generations of square bodies?
>>28920824460 is fine. Yes, I get about 15 highway with E4OD and 3.50 gears.
>>28921361All the other old ones had names based on specific features that made sense. Aeronose? The fuck is that? It’s just another square, couple that with the new curvy style it’s no wonder why they have the name OBS.
>>28921308Did you move in when Mr. Lahey died?
>>28921364People hate on the E4OD but best I ever got with an IDI matted to it was about 17.5. Some claim to 22 is possible depending on gearing and tires. To be quiet honest I think you're bullshitting with that since most men I seen on the old forums claim 9-12 MPG with the 460. The brown one I had, had the C6 and I never remember calculating the fuel on that thing.
>>28921361If they saw a brick nose or a bull nose on the road they'd call them an OBS also.Dent sides & bump sides were rare by the time their parents made them put down the Playstation controller and get a McJob so chances of seeing one during the 15 minute commute when theyre actually out of the basement is low. Chances of seeing a tear drop during that 15 minutes is almost nonexistent.If for some reason they actually came across a style side theyd probably think it was a studebaker or something. Fat fenders & bonus builts have been relegated to shows and Sunday drives so of course they are never going to see them.
>>28920824>Fuck your 5.0, 5.8 and 460nigger go fuck yourself
>>28921376Ok it's probably 13.5 but it's surprisingly good. I'll have to hand calculate a tank next time I fill up. This is also at 65mph cruise control on and a couple small hills on a 65 mile distance.
>>28920888Gassers have their place. I have several old IDIs as well. I'm gonna go out on a limb and claim I probably have the most 9th gen "OBS" "aeronose" fords in my possession of anyone on here... I lost count a long time ago. Might even have Ol' Peg beat.
>>28921308>Trailer park>Junk trucks with notably poor craftsmanship>Obsessed with diesels because "muh apocalypse"Life, uh, hasn't been good to you, has it?
>>28920824>Fuck your 5.0, 5.8 and 460Those are still great engines you meme larping tard.
>>28921401Best YouTube channel ever. Love being a Patreon
>>28921429My son is a Patreon. I can't even stay up to date with the videos Peg puts on Jewtoob. Too much shit to do, not enough time. He's minty as fuck though!
>>28921439I pegged your wife's pussy with my cock.
me, my dad and my grandfather have all owned multiple1988-97 ford trucks of all shapes and sizes, all different engines and and trans, except 4x4s so I will refrain from commenting about 4x4 equipment, we are all also mechanics so we have experience with working on them too. With that being said here is my opinion about the various drivetrain options.the 300/4.9 and the 302/5.0 are both absolute dogs of engines, I'm lumping them together because the driving experience is pretty much the same, I would advise never getting a truck with these motors unless it's just an F-150 grocery getter, they are gutless for actually pulling anything, that being said they are still very reliable engines, my grandpa's 95 F-150 has near 250,000 miles on its current engine (302) and it's still going.the 351W/5.8L is an underrated engine IMO, It' no diesel but it usually manages to strike a decent balance between performance cost and economy, my current daily is a 97 F-250HD with a 5.8, it wont be pulling any goosnecks for sure but it will haul anything that will fit on my 20ft bumper pull, and when it isn't pulling something it usually gets around 14MPG city and 17MPG on the highway, not great but good enough for me, most importantly though the upfront cost for a 5.8 truck is significantly less than a diesel and they are much cheaper and easier to maintain and rebuild.7.5L/460s are awesome engines for pulling, just as good as a diesel in my experience, again the upfront and maintenance costs are a lot less than a diesel. That being said the fuel economy is horrendous, I had a 93 f250 that got 7mpg city and 11 highway, this really sucks when you have to stop for gas constantly on long trips, it's also a very different (worse imo) experience than driving a diesel, simply due to the fact that you can't lug a gas engine like a diesel, I usually had to keep it in the 22-2600 rpm range when pulling, and taking off was even worse. will continue tomorrow, post too long and I'm sleepy.
>>28921496The 460 in my RV is great. I haven't towed with it, but I'm getting better than 11 MPG highway.
>>28921496I have no need for a gooseneck.Im not hauling steer to market.I also dont need a 24 foot, dual axle trailer. Im not trying to make money on the side as a backyard mechanic.My assorted ATVs can fit in the bed or on a lightweight 14 foot trailer.
I like my aeronose. I just bought it maybe 2 months ago. 351 e40d 2wd. its got plenty issues, like not being happy about reversing but I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually(no i wont)i picked up a set of 10 hole alloys from a bricknose at the junkyard to put on it, just need to get some tires for it
>>28921356no, i just used it as intended and it bent. why was your first thought about people standing on it?
>>28921414That's not cool bro...Come on now.
>>28921688Nah. Dude acts like he's better than every body while being visibly worse, he gets called out.
>>28921489So edgy... Bet you're real proud of that sicky dope comeback aren't you?
>>28921796Bet you're real proud of my dick in your wife's ass
>>28921783I never lived in a trailer park. I don't know if you can believe this but I have something called "friends". The guy with the truck in the middle lived in that trailer at the time. I'm not better than any human I just believe the diesels are the superior option in these trucks.>>28921496Pretty solid take. I just love the IDI because it's super simple to work on and it has mechanical simplicity that's unmatched by the v8 gassers. My IDI is ton turbo'd but it has enough get up and go to make it practical for how and where I drive it. Most people out here are in FWD crossovers and act like their gas pedal is their enemy. I do respect the 300 however. I worked long enough at airports to know they are capable workhorses, albiet geared so extreme they top out at 25mph.>>28921571>Alloys on a truckDidn't know niggers browsed /o/.
>>28921828Dude youre a broken record.We dont give a shit about towing 40,000 pounds. If I buy a project vehicle ill call a flatbed to get it home.Im not so poor that I have to resort to runs to scrap yard to make rent.>mechanical simplicity that's unmatched by the v8 gassers.Thats just a lie. Compare a holley to pic.
>>28921870Not the other guy, but that pump was branded the Roosa Master which is the most badass name for a car part ever. But apparently you can't rebuild and then calibrate them properly without some special setup, so yeah the carb wins on that front.t. GM 6.2L diesel owner
>>28921828>Alloys on a truckHoly shit, what a faggot.Alloys are stronger than steel safety wheels.Why are the biggest fanboi posers always champions of the cheapest, lowest option tier sets?Here's a brochure with factory options from 1976. F series has been running aluminum alloys since before you were born.
>>28921870>We dont give a shit about towing 40,000 poundswat?
>>28921828Dude, you were posting screenshots to support a hypothetical story you made up in your head. We can't trust you one way or the other. Like most diesel truck owners, you're a white trash liar.
Time to get a bonerMake sure to take care of your wife; don't waste it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqsy2YNweUo
>The AG-330 Start Cart orginally were Buick wildcat 401 cubic inch V-8 engines developing 400 horsepower. There were two Buick engines mounted tandem side by side with automatic transmissions. They were coupled together with a steel woven drive belt to drive a vertical shaft that was inserted into the starter mechanism on the bottom of the SR-71's engine.So weird they didnt use diesel engines...https://www.thesr71blackbird.com/Aircraft/Engines/starting-the-sr-71-blackbirds-j58-engines-ag330-start-cart
>>28921571>I like my aeronose. I just bought it maybe 2 months ago. 351 e40d 2wd. its got plenty issues, like not being happy about reversing but I'm sure I'll figure it out eventuallyI got the same setup. Replaced the 3.08 open diff with a 3.73 LSD, totally worth it, doesn't drop out of OD when hitting mild hills at highway speeds now. Mine was near stalling out on putting into reverse gear, giving gas preventing the stall. It's a bad solenoid in the transmission which will require you to install a refresh pack for all of them. Had my local transmission guy do it for $750, runs excellent now. Guy told me the E4OD rarely ever needs a rebuild and be skeptical if told so. I had to replace my TPS and IAC when I first bought it for to random stalling in idle. Definitely get a code reader, will save a lot of head ache.
>>28920813Those are hubcaps, or more accurately, "wheel covers". I used to have those.
>>28920813F150 gens are gay. 80-96 are all the same truck. There was no generational change among them. Same with the 2004-2014 F150s. 2004-2008 was the early years then there was a mid cycke refresh with the 2009-2014.
>>28920579Square body is a GM term, anon. This is like going out and kicking the door of your Ram and calling it a "dentside". Is there a dent in the side? Yeah. Is it a dentside? No.
>>28922006>Those are hubcapsGood to know, thanks.They're stainless steel though, correct, and NOT plastic?
>>28921870>We don't give a shit about towing 40,000 pounds So you buy trucks to look pretty? Also that's an unfair comparison. Compare the fuel system AND ignition system to a 5.8 EFI or something else. Also it's extremely simple if you know what you're looking at. Stop being a gas baby.
>>28922138There is a middle ground, zoomie. Trucks do more than tow 40000. And I'd rather daily a 351 than a 7.3.
>>28922149If you can figure out a carb you can figure out an injection pump. Remarkedly simple. Gear driven from timing gears, shoots fuel to the 8 injectors..simple.
>>28922153That's not even responsive. You're just pointing at different features and hoping I want to address the .
>>28922195I can't comprehend why choose a 351 over an IDI unless you love wasting money. I literally saved 10k just from running waste oil as fuel.
>>28922012Theyre not "the same".It was 2 refreshes of the platform but there are major differences. Thats like saying a '66 Mustang is the same as a "67 Mustang.An SN95 is a "Fox+" and uses many components from the previous gen.The '87 F series update not only saw different sheetmetal but also EFI and a new dash with the '92 seeing even better interior improvements.I have '96 door panels on my '85. They required modification but mounting locations are the same as is the wiring harness (mostly) and they are much more ergonomic.The '65-79 chassis is somewhat interchangable. I have "76 TTBs on my '66. But nobody mistakes a '66 for a '67.These are specific examples im personally familiar with but similar things can be said about Camaros, Range Rovers, Camrys etc.And dont even get me started on Beetles or 911s.
>>28922209We get it.Your time doesnt have value so driving somewhere to get free shit is worth it to you.Theres some aluminum cans in my dumpster. Stop by and grab them, maybe you'll have enough money for lunch tomorrow while youre out dumpster diving.
>>28922153The only moving parts in a holley carb are the needle&seat.Saying an injector pump is "extremely simple" in comparison is more than disingenuous, its blatant bullshit.You cant even debate the topic because you have to move goal posts every time someone calls you out.Take your mental illness elsewhere.
>>28922209Because I like being able to start my car in the cold and buy cheap ass wear parts from the local auto parts store, and my current billable rate is far more than 10k a year. And I'll note that previously, you were speaking in the hypothetical tense. You actively spoke as though this was a thing that you could do, and not a thing you were doing. I reckon you've saved exactly zero dollars doing this. >>28922219>>28922227Based responses.
>>28922215Dash and sheet metal isn't a generational platform change. Its a face-lift or in nucarspeak "mid cycke refresh". You can bolt 1980 sheet metal to a 1996. Pic rel is a 96 F150https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facelift_(automotive)
>>28920447>SQUAREBODY9th GENERATIONCall up NAPA with your bullshit terminology>OBS>Round nose>*CLICK*
>>28922253>isn't a generational platform changeFORD DECIDES WHAT CONSTITUTES THAT.Not you, fag.
>>28922227>The only moving parts in a holley carb are the needle&seat.What controls Airflow, the Easter Bunny?(hint: Butterfly)
>>28922264Throttle plates are inconsequential.I have carbs with 200k miles tjat have been rebuilt a dozen times and the throttle plates have never been touched.They have a failure rate akin to hood hinges.
>>28922287>Throttle plates are inconsequential.You're an idiot that doesn't even understand the governing physics of a carb.>Bernoulli principleMetering the AIRFLOW controls the entire operation.This asshole (probably you) omitted the Plates as a moving part >>>>>28922227
>>28922315That's not really a response to what he said, though. He's right. How often do you have to replace the throttle plates?
This is your brain on diesel.
>>28922315Throttle plates are staked to the pivot shaft and are considered a "non-serviceable part". Theyre not considered a soft part and are not part of a rebuild kit.Its like saying a flex fan is "a moving part".
>>28922338>>28922342the throttle shaft and the bushings in the carb body definitely do wear out, and thus requiring SERVICINGfags
>>28922342>Throttle plates are staked to the pivot shaftThey are not "staked" they are mechanically connected via screws.The Throttle Plate assembly is also known as th e Throttle Valve.
>>28920748>I walked bob dylan up on stage back in '79Literally you but with cars instead of trumpets, pathetic little faggot
>>28922344Its actually rare to wear out a throttle plate shaft.>>28922346The screws are staked, nowrench.
>>28920863>6 cylinders are woman engines
>>28922355>The screws are staked, nowrench.Yep, you're actually correct here.My bad.
>>28922244Whats up with all these weirdos that believe diesels can't start in the cold or that running 100% WMO is impossible? I worked at a tow yard for a few years, two trucks diden't have working glowplugs and the other was a cummins. Every morning we'd use starting fluid on them. I asked the owner if they ever blew up a truck with it and he said "No, you gotta be trying to blow one up with the ether." Detroit area fag reporting for duty.
>>28922367Not sure what aide youre on.Thats either some weird low-key anti diesel testimonial or diesel fags are so delusional that they cant grasp reality.
>>28922362between a 6 and 8 cylinder there is no comparison, one is objectively the feminine choice. in a serious world we would never have to choose. but the west is dying and these are the trials of a sickened empire. all the more reason to drive a V8.
>>28922446>power stroke>Shortbed >4WDI see you too, are a man of culture.
>>28922209Because the only thing wrong with the 351 are the heads and exhaust. Even stock it's a very robust gas engine and will make it to 300k+ when taken care of. Plus they're dirt cheap because nobody cares for them.
What's the best american pickup truck ever built and why is it the 1974-75 International 200 4x4 Dual 70?
>>28922344Thats not servicing, thats restoration.99% of carbs dont have bushings. Its a machined aluminum plate with a steel shaft. It was designed to not wear out for the service life of the carb and then be discarded. There are aftermarket kits to repair some models
>>28922497Pretty sure it’s an alumiduty actually
>>28921496cont.as this thread only pertains to 87-97 trucks I won't comment on the 6.9 IDI, whatever I have to say about it will just piss people off anyways.the 7.3 IDI are the perfect pulling engines, they are slow as hell, but they can pull the fabric of spacetime apart, as long as you don't have to go over 65MPH to do it of course. I don't have much experience with them personally but I will say this, if you want an IDI buy a 93-95 that has a turbocharger from the factory.7.3 PS - My dad's current truck is an F-350 dually 4 door with a PS 7.3, it pulls like an IDI but with less lead in its ass, it can comfortably cruise 70 MPH, it's basically an IDI that's easier to drive and faster. With that being said there is one big drawback to the powerstrokes, they are fucking EXPENSIVE, they are expensive to buy, expensive to work on, fucking expensive to look at, you can get a gasser or an IDI truck around me for $1500 all day, but if it's a 7.3 PS BOOM! now it's $3000 minimum, clapped out or not, they are great engines but they are way out of my price range.the ZF5 is awesome. Nuff saidthe E4OD is heavily dependent on what year it is, if it's a 88-92 then fuck no, steer clear, 92-95 ones are okay but I would still advise against it, the 96-97 transmission had a shitload of internal improvements though, pretty solid trans, my current rig has one in it (with a transgo tugger shift kit) and it's been good so far, as long as you remember that they are truck transmissions and drive them as such, they're pretty good.
>>28922526The problem with your posts is that youre talking about Oxen.Despite what Hollywood shows today, wagon trains used mostly oxen, not horses to pull wagons across the continent.An ox is a slow&steady torque monster compared to a horse. They can pull all day without health issues. Meanwhile the horse is tired after a few hours and takes more water and feed to keep alive.But im not sitting on the wagon, hauling everything I own across state after state.Im the guy on the palamino thats out ahead, checking the trail and looking for the next watering hole.2 different applications.
>>28922535well then partner, why did you come into the mule barn lookin' for a mustang?in less larpy words, yes I judge trucks and their powerplants by their ability to tow, their reliability and fuel economy because that's what they were intended for, designed for, and what I use them for.If you judged (factory spec) trucks by their ability to go fast or handle well then they would get absolutely shit on by any car made in the same time period. or as a more based man may say, you wouldn't take an Ox barrel racing would you?
>>28922526>you can get a gasser or an IDI truck around me for $1500 all day, but if it's a 7.3 PS BOOM! now it's $3000 minimum, clapped out or not, they are great engines but they are way out of my price range.$3000 is the minimum for any pre-97 Ford down here in Florida. Any PSDs are $8000 minimum for something thrashed, anything that's not going to require work after buying is easily $10k.
I have been considering a truck for a while now, I have 3 cars but none are trucks. When I looked at the price of brand new trucks it was disgusting, $80 CAD for something with 4WD.Recently thought I should just hunt for a fully restored older model, they'll cost less and won't be full of gay computers to make me angry.
>>28922565I live in east Texas, those figures are for trucks that I would consider projects, something that is complete and hasn't been obviously destroyed but will definitely need a lot of work, but the math is pretty much the same, expect to pay around 40-50% more for a powerstroke truck, around here a good running driving gasser is around 8k and a PSD truck in the same condition is at least 12-15k
Google two words:DaciaSanderoI need to pic the interior. Why?Look at it. LOOK. AT. IT. Yes, L O.O K
>>28921936mine came with a 3.55 LSD which isn't too bad. I was doing some forum research last night and I've come to the conclusion that it could very well be something in the speedometer or cluster causing the issues. the speedo needle bounces all over above maybe 40 ish mph. The truck will sit and idle in reverse just fine but freaks out as soon as you try to move, which again makes me think its something to do with the speedometer. apparently the third brake light causes problems as well, and when I looked at mine the pigtail was all burned up and I replaced it but that didn't fix it. if its not the speedo after all I'm not sure what to check next without throwing my purse at it. I'm also open to tire recommendations. I would like to tow with this once I have it better sorted and I trust it more, but I'm also kinda wanting to go for the muscle truck look since its got probably the worst possible bed for actual utility. something with white letters would look pretty cool I think
