If even Jason can acknowledge how great and impactful the Model S was, then so can (You).
Literally who (cares)
i hate light bars in all shapes and colors.
Ok. True story. Back home there was this guy named Chet. Now Chet was a real asshole. He might have owed me some money. He might have slept with my wife before she became my ex-wife. The details don't matter. Suffice to say I was wronged. So one summer evening, I was out having a few drinks, one or two maybe three. You get the picture and who do I see? CHET. He drove up and he double-parked outside a Diary Queen and went in to get some soft-serve. Now Chet drove and just to give you an idea of exactly what kind of a douchebag this guy was. He drove a white pearlescent BMW series 7 with leather interior. So I saw that thing, and I'd had a few like I said. And I climbed up top and I may have defecated through the sunroof. Not my finest hour, I'll grant you that. But that's what a chicago sunroof is. Now you know! It's a real thing, I didn't make it up. I'm not the first person to do it, there's a name for it. Guy wanted some soft serve, I gave him some soft serve. I did not know that his children were in the back seat. There was a level of tint on the windows that I'll maintain to this day was NOT legal on an Illinois licensed vehicle. But somehow that's on me. I guess who leaves two cub scouts in a double parked car with the engine running? Come on!
>>28924383Now if only t*sla could get their shit together regarding build quality, oust the ketamine-addled retard, and make a good interior that isn't literally just an ipad glued to an over-minimalistic blank slab of plastic.
>>28924383I don't really think anyone was to denying that to begin with.Tesla made EVs mainstream.>>28924419My friends all drive M3/Ys and I haven't had to help them fix anything.One dude broke an axle on his model S plaid.But that was later a bunch of hard launches on 200 tread wear tires.I'd consider one if I had a place to park it that was fire proof with a charger.
>>28924419Build quality hasn't been an issue in years. They're at least industry standard quality and have been for a while. >>28924445A lot of people won't admit it because they simply hate EVs. But ask them any other car that was more significant in the last 30 years and they can't think of anything.
>>28924455It’s the most significant car of the last 30 years because the past 20 years of cars have largely sucked. Cars peaked in 05 and it’s been downhill basically since then. The industry is moving towards the worst possible direction for enthusiasts (all private owners really) and the Tesla model S is nothing but the harbinger of that trend. So sure, it’s significant: significantly horrible.
>>28924455I work on new ones constantly for a tesla certified body shop down the street from me. They still don't have panel alignment down and given they haven't addressed it 15 years in I don't think they ever will, given people buying their slapdash slop are doing so regardless. They're also the only brand where a factory installed inner tie rod has literally fallen out of the steering rack while setting the front toe, on multiple model 3s. There was no loctite on those threads, so they were able to just vibrate out. Had a brake rotor dust shield bolt fall out into the rotor of a model 3 performance once too, causing a clink noise every time the wheel turned 180 degrees and the screw moved.
>>28924468Why do you copy paste the same response in every thread?Even if you are telling the truth, atleast change things up.
>>28924492Why do people post endless EV shill threads of no substance and expect us to not shitpost in them?
>>28924492I didn't copy and paste a single word, thank you very much.
>>28924383Why would I care about the opinion of some literal who, VW-owning stancefag forced "eceleb"? I've never heard of this faggot outside of that one reddit-spacing retard that fellates and endlessly regurgitates every single one of his opinions here.
>>28924504Don't make me bring out the archived posts sir.
>>28924687Do it
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>>28924383Who is Jason and how much he getting paid to shill for DARPA
>>28924742>when the CIA gets into auto manufacturinglol
>>28924467>Cars peaked in 05>2005 was 30 years agoAgain, name what car from 2005 that you think was truly significant. You can't
The Tesla Model S is amazing. This was Tesla before their cost cutting models that were the useless Model 3 and spaceship Model Y. Model S' sedan form with hatchback is THE ideal EV body. Great efficiency, fun to drive and decent practicality. The other models suffer from too many flaws. People also forget Model S has physical buttons and a separate speed display. BMW i4 and Polestar 2 also share that same ideal form and are currently the best EVs out there bar none. The replacements for Model S.
>>28924383kinda just sounds like hes trying to sell it for more than its really worth
>>28924383Not even trolling here but what is actually so great about the Model S beyond it having fast acceleration? It's not particularly well made in terms of quality. It's got the same bugs and software headaches as every other Tesla, and even more than most gas cars. It's not really attractive, looks like a suppository. It doesn't sound great. Its design hasn't aged particularly well either.Please answer honestly and without sperging, I genuinely need to know why people revere Teslas. If it's purely the acceleration just say so, because yes it's impressive but so is a dragster and an F16.
>>28924810>Its design hasn't aged particularly well either.??? It looks great.
>>28924813OK we can agree to disagree that its amorphous blob turd drop shape is subjective in appearance. What else?
Unironically a 15 year old Honda Accord looks nicer than a Model S. Tesla had to be obsessed with aerodynamics to maximize battery life/range so were basically forced to make it look like melted dookie.
>>28924383>Ugly electric applianceThere are very few cars I wouldn't rather drive
I test drove a P85D and it was the most soul-crushing thing I've ever driven. I'd rather daily a semi.Literal one-trick pony which I was over after my third launch, and this seems to be a universal experience since when was the last time you saw a Tesla do a launch?When was the last time you saw anyone in a Tesla do ANY sort of "for the thrill of it" maneuver? They're all over the place here and everyone drives them as though they don't have a heart beating in their chests.
>>28924810Being significant doesn't necessarily mean it was good. The point is the model s had the largest impact on the auto industry that we've seen in our lifetime. Not everything that came as a result is necessarily a good thing, but there's no denying that it reshaped the entire industry, on a global scale
>>28924953In what way? If anything it made people hate EVs and their proponents even more than before. Previously EVs were just a pipedream that everyone quickly dismissed. Now they're recognized as a wasteful trinket that is built on lies and corruption, typically owned and operated by the absolute worst and most morally bankrupt individuals society has to offer. I guess in a way that is transformative. We've learned that to truly move forward we need to a.) kill everyone in the third world, and b.) kill everyone who has ever owned a Tesla.
>>28924957Wow, he used to look so much younger.
>>28924957You're exactly the person I'm talking about that can't look at the situation objectively because you have a personal disdain for EVs. If you disagree so passionately then give any other example of any other car that you think was more significant. The only other ones that really come close are the 2001 crew cab F150 or the Rav4
>>28924810Fast acceleration is a good part of it. I think the design has aged pretty well (on the outside). The "greatness" was mostly that it had usable range and a charging network when other EVs didn't. It's not really exceptional now but back in the day it seemed different.
>>28925000Mustang. Caravan/Aerostar. Corvette. Jeep CJ. There are plenty, honestly. Teslas are not the future. Hybrid powertrains are the future. Small gasoline engines paired with electric motors.
>>28925006The irony is that gasoline cars fuelled a boom in various industries, including oil exploration and refinement. Teslas mine for lithium in foreign countries and use the precious, limited resource in a severely wasteful manner. We'd be better off with hybrid powertrains, repurposing existing gasoline engines and mating them to small electric motors with smaller batteries. It's a wiser use of the overall resources.
>>28924807>The Tesla Model S is amazing.Just stop.
>>28925014You're thinking in the wrong scale. Mustang was significant for american coupes. Caravan was significant for minivans. Jeep was significant for offroad suvs. None of them had any influence or were relevant in anyway to any vehicle not immediately related to them. The mustang in no way whatsoever influenced the Rav4. The Jeep in no way whatsoever influenced the Camry. The Model S has influenced literally every single vehicle that came after it. Its ramifications, for better or worse, reshaped the entire automotive industry.
>>28925140>The Model S has influenced literally every single vehicle that came after it.this is objectively untrue thoit's no more important than the Baker Electric car
>>28925140The Mustang birthed an entire class of vehicles: high performance, high horsepower cars for the everyman that resulted in dozens of variants from all makers.Caravan resulted in a transportation revolution; an entirely new type of vehicle had been born that would become ubiquitous with families across the continent. Jeeps were marketed to civilians after the war ended because guys fell in love with them during their service. It created an entirely new class of vehicle that could be used hard on or off road, farming, hunting, exploring, or just getting groceries. Literally birthed the SUV. Corvettes have always been and are still the only truly affordable high performance sports car for the everyman. If you want something beautiful, fast, and that handles well but you're not an AI jew, you buy a Corvette, It's been this way for half a century. The Tesla showed that EVs can be used in limited cases as a daily driver, but they are still seen as a subpar alternative to gasoline vehicles. Their range is still incomparable to even a cheap Subaru that gets more than twice the range using barely any gas. Teslas are seen as a meme car for hipsters like the Mini Cooper or the Smart Car. Other companies producing EVs are panicking because no one is buying them at this point. There is no great EV revolution; it was a flop.
>>28925148yeah you're right the model s never influenced any car
>>28925164Again you're not looking at the entire automotive landscape. Your examples were significant specifically for the segment they exist in. Meanwhile, the Model S influenced the new Mustangs, and all of Ford. It influenced the Jeep, and all of Stellantis. It influenced the Corvette, and all of GM.
>>28925165Tablets in dashboards have been around since the 1990s sweaty pie.>>28925167You're painting a picture with a broad brush. By that logic the P38 Lightning inspired global turbocharging of vehicles just because it used turbocharged engines. I would argue the Prius is a far more revolutionary vehicle than the Tesla ever has been, for the aforementioned reasons. EVs are gimped by a society of hundreds of millions of people who live a life not supported by EVs. Their future depends on US bending to its will; no other car I mentioned had any such expectation. They were ALL purpose built to meet the wants and needs of the end user. The Tesla, on the other hand, was built as a lifestyle accessory to match a political narrative about climate change.
>>28925165fyi everyone fucking hates tablet dashboards and companies are moving away from those, going back to regular buttons for practical and safety reasons.
>>28924815That's not the Model S at all. That's Model 3.
>>28924957Delusional amerimutt
>>28924807>Bmw>ChinkstarBleh
>>28925021>>28925014Is this a Goyota cum slurper? Hybrids are awful. Gay, weak and only appealing to niggers. Hybrid is an abomination. Literally the transexual variant of a car.
>>28925198What cars do you like?
>>28925197spotted the thirdie
>>28925210Shilling for tranny hybrid drivelines is classic thirdie tactics. How is life as a jeet Uber driver? Saving lots on MPG driving people better than you around?
>>28924815>amorphous blob turd drop shapeModel S has very sharp features and actually looks good contrary to 3/Y.
>>28924383Appeal to authority, not an argument
>>28925210spotted the birdie
>>28924992Being addicted to hard drugs will do that to a person
>>28925199seek professional help
>If paid commentator likes thing he's being paid to talk about, then you should tooOkay, pay me $100k and I'll say nice things about it.
>>289248052005 was 21 years ago, retard. Also, a car doesn’t need to be historically significant to be better than a Tesla. The Tesla is significant because it is a harbinger of destruction, not because it’s a good car.
>>28925859>>28924953>Being significant doesn't necessarily mean it was good.If you want to bump a thread at least read it first.
>>28925568Technically there's no indication that he's on hard drugs. Though I suspect he has used adderall for decades, which is a very hard drug.Hard and soft refer to how addictive something is. Morphine is super easy to take and act normally on, but it's the hardest of drugs. Alcohol is another hard drug, there are real and serious physical and mental withdrawals if you don't keep taking it (I can vouch to that).Ketamine is extremely hard to take and will put you in a living nightmare, but your body doesn't crave it once you're done. Antidepressants like prozac are harder. I wouldn't recommend anyone take either, they're trash chems.Just a semantic difference I thought people should know.
>>28924383I don't know who jason is but I figure he's a retard.
>>28925294looks incredibly generic, like something that slithered from the asshole of a Hyundai executive. to say the Model S looks good is to affirm you have shit taste, objectively.
>>28924387>cared enough to reply
>>28924810>the biggest retard to drive a tesla>this makes teslas bad somehow
why are Tesla fanboys so insecure? good things are self evident, you wouldn't need to constantly shill this meme car if it were actually a good car.
>>28926001Alright retard
