why don't people that whine about cars being a "depreciating asset" ever consider dailying an old JDM car?
cars arent assets they are appliances. boomer finance is retarded.
a lot of them do and the jdm has its own issues (difficulty to source parts, difficulty to insure, differences between usdm and jdm models that get lost in translation) difficulty to insure was mine, hagerty won't touch anything that isn't a skyline keicar or nsx
>>28927546the kind of buyer worried about money isn't going to drive a right hand drive 30 year old car
>>28927546These are starting to have a lot of expensive issues at this point. Time marches on even LS400 is not immune. Good ones are also expensive now.
>>28927546because JDM cars are honestly shit for the price, nostaliga aside.
>>28927558>i dont want to maintain a machine get the fuck out
>>28927626JDM means cars made specifically for the Japanese market, and USDM means cars made specifically for the American market. The brand's procedence doesn't have anything to do with it, Japanese brands can and in fact do make variants and trim levels unique to each market.
>>28927546>JDM>posts USDM car >>28927631nta but I'll pass on dailying a 30 year old car as well. Some of us have jobs and responsibilities and need a car we know is going to start every morning.
>28927552 #>(difficulty to source parts, difficulty to insure, differences between usdm and jdm models that get lost in translation)That isn't an issue in the US. I assume you're in Europe which makes it hard for Japanese brands to compete through protectionist laws. Saying USDM for Japanese cars is fucking retarded. D stands for domestic. The US is not Japan. There are no US domestic Japanese cars by definition you stupid fucking ESL gorilla raped nigger of the mind.
>>28927636It will start every morning if you spend money to maintain it.
>>28927635No you fucking illiterate sub zero mental nigger, domestic means domestic. You fucking subhuman rat, literacy equivalent to a terminal aids patients t cell count. Fuck you you dipshit turbonigger EA888 timing chain level mental capacity subhuman. Get teleported to the JDM Mazda factory in 1945 to meet USDM nuclear vaporization, you waste of human cells, you fucking non verbal stack of evolutionary excretia you nigger hobo toe sucking faggot you watermelon seed spitting giganigger of inverse sentience, fucking clown in a smartcar crushed by a semi truck
>>28927636Yeah bro just buy one of those new cars that magically don't require maintenance either
>>28927644uh oh, melty!
>>28927646You're a retard busrider if you think a new car's maintenance is comparable to an old car's.
>>28927644>No you fucking illiterate sub zero mental nigger, domestic means domestic.USDM means US market designation for a Japanese car, you're having an autistic meltdown over something you yourself are wrong about.
>>28927631Point me to the part where I said I wouldn't buy and maintain one. The point is that people who whinge about buying a depreciating asset are the same kind of people who wouldn't want the maintenance costs associated with an aging 30 year old luxury car. Read the response in the context of the thread retard.
>>28927653The US market is not domestic for Japanese companies. The word you're looking for is local. You dumb fucking ESL gene pool polluting genetic wreck of the mental human genome continuum butchered by your alcoholic mother accepting anonymous semen of wandering niggers on a public stoop in exchange for coupons for 5% off Netflix Shrek 2 DVD rentals, you low moral subhuman illiterate bastard incapable of articulating the English language through your inherited syphilitic fetal alcohol sybdrome wracked hydro encephalopathic brain, you crocs wearing section 8 living only white man in the projects dishonorary iron nigger with oak leaves
>>28927654>expensive issues>expensive now
>>28927631People that view cars solely as depreciating assets want them to get them to work and back every day without having to think about anything. Not maintenance schedules or wear items or anything of that nature. It is nothing but a means to an end.
>>28927657>The US market is not domestic for Japanese companies. The word you're looking for is local. You dumb fucking ESLThe US market is domestic for Americans. A Japanese car being sold in America is a Japanese car sold domestically. The designation for such a vehicle is USDM.You're calling me ESL while not understanding basic definitions.Lol, dumb fuck.
>>28927663Don't waste your energy on this mouth breathing retard anon he's proven he's incapable of grasping the very simple logic behind people who are money concious and who care about things like depreciation not wanting to be nickel and dimed by old luxury cars.
>>28927665>The US market is domestic for Americans. A Japanese car being sold in America is a Japanese car sold domestically. The designation for such a vehicle is USDM.Actual retard. I hope bait but please keep it up I love Volkswagen schizos rageposts.
>>28927667It has nothing to do with being money conscious, they would spend twice as much on a mode of transportation that they didn't have to think about at all if it were an option.
>>28927665>Japanese car being sold in America is a Japanese car sold domestically.A Japanese car being sold in Japan would be a Japanese car being sold domestically. A Japanese car being sold in the US would be a US market car or US localized car.
>>28927665americans are so fucking stupid
>>28927663>>28927667>>28927673Money conscious person will replace the timing belt before the engine grenades itself. I feel i am getting myself into a schizo quagmire.
>>28927663That's 100% wrong though. The "muh depreciation asset" crowd would drag their dick through a mile of broken glass and spend a week plus $3500 repairing their 200k mile Toyota Avalon as long as it means they don't have a dreaded car paymentThe "A to B" crowd are the ones buying brand new hybrid Rav4s and trading them in on brand new hybrid Rav4s every 5 years because they understand the value in having a reliable car
>>28927675>A Japanese car being sold in the US would be a US market car or US localized car.US market car is a domestic market car from a US residents pov.Holy fuck, learn basic definitions of words.
>>28927678A money consicious person (unless they're into cars) is not going to buy a 30 year old luxury car with shit fuel economy, an ECU that needs new capacitors, and any number of generic 30 year old car problems which will rack up quickly. They are going to buy a relatively late model economy car with good reliability metrics that has already depreciated quite heavily, which is not yet old enough to become a maintenance burden. LS400 is an enthusiast car that you buy with your heart, not your head. Yes, it is better than a lot of other cars in the segment for its age but it can still be a money pit, unless it is a pristine example, in which case it will be expensive and therefore not 'good value'. Good examples of these things aren't at the bottom of their depreciation curve, they have already gone back up again.
>>28927681Your abstract use of an established word and grammatical norms do not override them
>>28927681A US market car of a foreign marque is not domestic though. You're just retarded
>>28927689>Your abstract useNo, its the actual definition of the market and carYou're the stupid fuck who can't grasp it
>>28927638Fucking retard.
>>28927657Toyota Tundra was designed, engineered and built in the U.S.Its a domestic vehicle by any standard. "Toyoya" is just a global holding company.
>>28927691>A US market car of a foreign marque is not domestic though.DOMESTICALLY SOLD, you stupid fucks, not domestically produced It's a domestic market car. It literally has a domestic vin thats different from a JDM vin. Lmao, youre so fucking stupid its unreal
>>28927681Did you learn English after coming from a migrant background or something?Domestic:>Internal rather than foreign>Native, internal, inland, home-grown, national
>>28927701Tundra was designed by Japs by a Jap company. Assembled by Americans for the US market. Toyota is not American, so not domestic by definition.
>>28927703What migrant background did you come from and what grade did you drop out of? That J initial vin character denotes it's not domestic.
>>28927707>>Internal rather than foreignDOMESTIC MARKET is the definition for that, you stupid fuck.IT is a DOMESTIC MARKET car, the origins are irrelevant
>>28927703Holy christ look at this retard>Jap car is American because it was SOLD in AmericaGuzzle some exhaust in an enclosed environment and improveme the genepool.
>>28927713Lmao look at this retard>DOOD THIS JAPANESE CAR WAS SOLD IN THE US SO IT'S A US NATIVE CAR
>>28927711>That J initial vin character denotes it's not domestic.The J denotes it's built in Japan not for Japan, you stupid fuckThat's also a domestic US sticker, you can look it up but you're too fucking stupid to breath judging by your posts
>>28927717>A US NATIVE CARI never said that, you're the retard who cannot grasp the difference between a domestic market and domestic production
>>28927713>IT is a DOMESTIC MARKET car, the origins are irrelevantThis Guatemalan is a DOMESTIC MARKET worker because he signed a contract here, his origins are irrelevant Do you see how retarded you sound?
>>28927719>The J denotes it's built in Japan not for Japan, you stupid fuck>Internal rather than foreign>Native, internal, inland, home-grown, nationalAgain you fail basic comprehension. An imported product is never domestic by definition.
>>28927719Nigger you're dumb
>>28927709>no!!! This oil tanker isnt Russian because its registered in the Cayman islands!!!Your mentality is cute if youre 12.But if youre an adult then its just sad.
>>28927719>The J denotes it's built in Japan not for Japan, you stupid fuckIf it's built in Japan it's not domestic. Tossing market onto the end and pretending it alters the first word doesn't change that
>>28927725>An imported product is never domestic by definition.It's a domestic market vehicle because it's offered for sale to you, you stupid fuck.
>>28927728False equivalency. A Toyota built in Japan is not domestic to the US. It may be localized but is not domestic. A domestic market US vehicle would come from a US brand or from US assembly. What you're talkng about is reflagging. A Russian origin vessel would be only domestic to Russia. Why is that word so hard for you to understand? If you registered it in the Cayman islands it would be a foreign origin non domestic locally flagged vessel. Not hard
>>28927732Holy crap look at this dumbass
>>28927548>applianceThis, Especially that rolling recliner
>>28927546I own a JDM land-barge. I do not consider any car a monetary sink/ asset. I consider it a fully consumable item that has fully depreciated the moment you sign the paperwork with the full intent to drive it until no longer feasible, or that it will eventually become a total loss.
>>28927732Are you of Mexican origin or Indian origin, or are you just domestic white trash? I want to know which slurs to use when I mock your command of the English language.
>>28927732Is a Japanese built Toyota native to the US, or of this nation or land? No. Then it is not domestic. And a domestic market vehicle would be Ford or GM product built domestic and sold domestic
if you below middle class and are over 10k into a car it's now a financial liability, I don't care if you view it as a toy or an appliance or what, if you can't liquidate it for even 10% what you have in it it's a fuckup.If your stupid ass has like for example a porsche cayanne for 20k and you turn around and nobody will take more than 7k for it well then you have fucked up and are a retard.
>>28927552State farm insured my Mitsuoka without even asking about it. They just accepted it.
>>28927795like wise, hagerty, state farm, progressive all were issue free getting quotes. My cedric is exceptionally cheap to insure tossing full collision and comp + greatly extended injury coverage at it. Less than half the cost of my husbands old matrix. Hagerty was just very expensive and required it to not be a daily driver car.The only company that wouldn't quote was gieco stating they need it to have a FMVSS certificate. I asked if they would insure my 60s mustang and was also told the same that they would not insure it due to predating FMVSS.
>>28927763>arguing by posting an AI summaryHang yourself.
>>28927646You cant be this retarded
>>28927824Go ahead and post a more authoritative source then. No, your schizo ramblings aren't an authoritative source.
>>28927795hagerty told me to fuck off when i wanted to insure a 1998 wrx sti and progressive wont do anything more than liability in the state of ny because they dont know how to value cars that werent sold in america its very much state dependent, i ran into a guy in wisconsin with a 97 wrx he imported from japan he essentially couldn't get on the road because the smaller insurers didnt want to bother with rhd cars and progressive dropped him for unrelated reasons
>>28927752IDK, you kind of need to spend $10k atp to get a decent well cared for car, or at least to have some options. before COVID it was $5k.
Generally those cars may require more maintenance then they are actually worth, at which point it really just depends on how good your available options are and how much you love them.>This thread/o/ is so miserable.
>>28927795>>28927818>>28927873State Farm's the way to go. When I got my kei, they had them in their computer system so they were asking me what trim it was. I have full coverage through them on it.Hagerty a shit though. State Farm has some kind of deal with them for agreed value coverage on classic and special interest vehicles - they tried to write the policy as that first, and hagerty wouldn't touch it.
>>28927986Statefarm was okay, but they had more than doubled my rate in the last 3 years despite never having a wreck and no moving violations in over 15 years. Had a good standing long term multi policy discount, never late on a payment or renewal. Moving to progressive took like 15 minutes and saved me about 1700 dollars a year all told (I moved all of my insurance in one go)I think it tends to vary greatly based on state and location so to which insurer is better. For adding and removing vehicles I have to say progressive is was easier and faster than statefarm was in my experience.I also do not register or insure any car as a classic, ever. The stipulations on miles traveled, use of travel, where its stored, etc etc make that a non starter for me. I buy a car to drive it, and I'm proud to be racking up 500KM a week on my weird car.
>>28928051My local state farm office is great for vehicles, terrible for homeowners insurance. I have my policy for that elsewhere because through state farm it's triple the price for equivalent coverage. Also if I get a new vehicle I'm automatically covered for 30 days, and all I have to do is call and leave a voicemail with VIN and mileage and they take care of adding it.I had to register my kei as a "collector" vehicle because my state specifically prohibits standard plates for keis. The only real downsides is you have to have another vehicle, and you can't use it in January. But collector plates are one time fee and non-expiring
I just want a car that doesn't rust
>>28927636>dailying a 30 year old carit's probably not aa bad as you think. i did it for years and outside of regular oil and air filter changes, everything else i did to it was self-inflicted or /o/tism or both
>>28927671this thread reminds me of the how many days in a week bodybuilding thread, i'm dying
>>28927643This. My FL LS430 starts first time every time, and fluid levels have not moved since I bought it 18 months ago. Almost 300,000kms
