Have anything nice to say about the Ford Pinto, /o/?
dat thang is fire fr fr
>>28934904Double a-arm up front.Dominated pony class for decades.While giant 6 cylinders had 1 barrel carbs it had a 2 barrel holley (1 primary, 1 secondary) on a 2.0L 4 banger.
>>28934904Not especially. >>28934914>Double a-arm up front.Which are too damn short to be of value and are only there because it was cheaper at the time of design than McDonalds>but muh M2 suspension kitsWhich is only better than 50's straight axle trucks and is where the M2 suspension use came about.
Its a fun and light mouse car to throw around, until one of your competitors lightly caresses the rear end.>Yes Rico kaboom
i unironically like it
I like it!
>>28934904I learned to drive stick on a 1980 Pinto that was falling apart.
>>289349042.3l 4 banger is great and easy to work on
Looks cool, reminds me of early Honda Civics
>>28934904its FR for real, and is reasonably styled.a rare set of features in the present day>>28934947easy fixed by installing a ford escort fuel tank>your luggage capacity gets kinda nuked tho
>>28934914>2 barrel holley (1 primary, 1 secondary)what
>>28934904Ford kept using the shitty engine from this in other cars, even their attempts at turbo 'sporty' cars for decades after this. It was all they had, which was pathetic then and got even more pathetic as the years went by.tldr; ford always had shitty "engines" for so long until the 90s when they started copying everyone else
>>28935468aka piece of shit
>>28935289>greatBriggs and Stratton is great
>>28935339Genuine shame those rusted awayImagine it with a turbo ls swap
>>28935468Its half a 4 barrel. A standard 2 barrel is the front half of a 4 barrel, this is the left side barrels.>>28935484Its a licensed clone of a Weber and is sought after by everyone from jeep fans to the MG crowd.You dont know what youre talking about and it shows.
>>28935518yeah that's what doesn't make sense, a 2 barrel holley is just a 4 barrel with the secondaries not existing.I know theres a wacky special cast holley for the pintos but I doubt they are on independant throttle blade shafts
>>28935520>I doubt they are on independant throttle blade shaftsThey are.
>>289349040 to 60 times.1971 Pinto 2000 (2.0L): 11.4 seconds.1971 Pinto 1600 (1.6L): 15.1 seconds.1972 Pinto Wagon (2.0L): 16.7 seconds.1976 Pinto Runabout (2.3L): ~12.1 seconds.1980 Pinto (2.3L): 15.3 seconds.
>>28935535Sorry, that was a fancy aftermarket model. I was just looking at the clarity of the throttle shafts and not paying attention to the rest.Here's a holley casting.
>>28935538One reason the pinto dominated pony class was because you could cut out so much more of the sheet metal than say a Vega, leading to a much lighter car.The runabout (model with a trunk vs hatchback or wagon) was under 2,000 pounds off the showroom floor.Strip out the interior and even after you've added a full cage youre atill adding ballast to meet minimum sanctioning requirements.Pintos at Cajon Speedway's 3/8 mile track were AVERAGING over 80 mph around the circuit.Imagine getting a fucking pinto upto 100 on the straights just to shut it down and take the turns at 60.And that holley carb was one of the reasons it did well.Pony class runs stock engines, including induction. Youre not even allowed to run electric fuel pumps (unless it was stock).The Rochester Monojet used on the vega was a 175cfm 1 barrel and was a major bottleneck compared to the 270cfm Holley 5200 on the pinto.
The Pinto Cruising Wagon was pretty cool, like a miniature boogie van.
>>28935540wack
>>28935635This guy gets it
>>28935635Theres a reason 4 barrels have primary/secondary sides.And you dont see the benefits of having a 270 cfm primary/secondary setup on a 122c.i. engine? Especially when the competition has a 175cfm single on their 140c.i.?Think of a 289 V8 with a 600cfm 4 barrel.Now cut it in half.There you go.
>>28934947To be fair, that would happen to most people here too
>>28934912Pintos killed less people than Teslas.
>>28935937>hereThats possibly true but the real reason they went after Ford is because Ford spoke the truth like 30 years prior. Every economy car of the time mounted the fuel tank the same way. They targeted Ford about it because he said some stuff about the untouchable class
>>2893593727 people died in pinto fires.Ironically I owned a '72 and champion the little bastatds and my friend's daughter is one of those 27.The real issue was the fuel tank also being the floor of the trunk (take out the tank and it was just a hole in the trunk).This coupled with no partition (firewall) between the trunk and passenger compartment meant thw ruptured tank splashed fuel onto the backside of the seats and everything just burned from there.This is how 65-73 mustangs were built BTW. Same with first gen camaros and most cats of that era.But dickbag Nader didnt include thwm in his book.
>>28936051>They targeted Ford about it because he said some stuff about the untouchable classThe main reason Ford was chosen was because of a leaked internal memo that showed Ford Motor knew of the issue and chose not to fix it in the current model as that would cost more than the probable lawsuits. Nothing like a little depraved indifference to set a jury off.
>>28936195>because of a leaked internal memo that showed Ford Motor knew of the issue and chose not to fix itsounds more to me like everyone with half a brain knew this was a bad design to have a tank function as the trunk floor but somehow just one guy internally saying 'hey maybe we shouldn't do this again' on-record is the mistake
>>28934951me too, engine might be shit, but i like the styling of these
>>28936233It's more so that Ford was addressing the problem in time. They point it out so engineers can be more mindful in the future while every other manufacturer was perfectly fine existing in the status quo for profit. Another reason the untouchables got upset with Henry. Sort of like when Ford wanted to give his employees a raise so the dodge brothers sued him. It's literally every stein single berg time owitz
