>>28936478by not being a cumguzzling tesla appliance.
>>28936478where manual
>>28936480All cars are appliancest. superior horse rider
>>28936478>380,000 miles>158 mile rangelmao a second gen prius with 400k miles on it can go 400 miles+ still
>>28936484Nah, an EV is a white good akin to a washing machine or microwave. They're cheap, disposable, uninteresting, and unsustainable gimmicks for suckers.>t. Superior steel horse rider (the motorcycle)Stick to animals instead of talking on automobiles, you don't belong here.
>>28936478The 158 miles is prob ideal temp conditions too. I’d like to know where this car is located (California)
>>28936478I think it's time to recognize that we are living the end of boomer times for cars. Just like how they lived in prosperity their entire lives and experienced the peak of western civilization, we experienced the peak of cars and only have darkness in the future to look forward to. Fuck EV faggots and their self driving cars, I hope every single one of them gets AIDS.
>>28936495Nah it's more likely the original number is way too optimistic and this range is closer to the original range. This is the range they actually got. Whereas the original range was just what the Tesla claimed (always inflated)
>>28936478My 343,000 mile Corolla had the same range it did new.
>>28936521With the original powertrain ?
>>28936495>I’d like to know where this car is located (California)Manitoba, Canuckistan
>>28936538Are you questioning the longevity of a Toyota engine?How much of a tourist are you?
>>28936538newfag tourist
>>28936555That's not far-fetched anymore, sweetie
>>28936555the /o/ consensus is that toyota reliability is a myth
What year is that Model 3? Battery degradation is a function of not only charge cycles (equating to mileage) but time. One of my trucks turned 40 this year, and the engine still runs fine. I don't think an original battery pack will be viable at that age.And OK, so the vehicle is still usable and might just need a battery swap. How much is that? And more importantly, will compatible battery packs still be offered 10 years after that vehicle was made? 20? 30? Beyond?
>>28936497>Hope EVcucks get aidsNah man, just sabotage their cars sensors. Then the systems they blindly trust will bring them to their own poetic demise. >Self driving them to their graves, a boon placed by their lack of self agency.>Millenials, Zoomers, and Gen Alpha must learn a valuable lesson in being in control of yourself and your vehicle.
>>28936555Do you think the engine is the only part of the powertrain?
>>28936605>just sabotage their cars sensorsHow do you intend to do that? Because none of the self driving features will work if the cameras are obscured
>>28936555Goyota hybrids blow up at about 130k miles.
>>28936478That's amazing! A battery car was used as a taxi. Wow
>>28936497Battery powered cars will open up a level of innovation that the car industry hasn't seen in decades. Cars got stagnant as fuck. Even before EVs, quality of combustion engines were dropping and they had to pull out the hybrid abomination to increase MPG.
>>28936490Yeah but it also would've consumed 8,700 gallons of gas over that 400k miles, costing >$25k.
>>28936629Inb4>uh my Goyota jeet hybrid acshually generates gasoline per driven mile
>>28936626>t; idiot
>>28936614Nice try glowie, IYKYK
>>28936658Can't prove me wrong. The last good combustion engine cars were made in the mid 00's. It all shit the bed afterwards.
>>28936661So you don't know
>>28936538Yep, 1ZZFE life.Sure it burned 1qt of oil every 5,000 miles.But it still had 200psi of cylinder pressure and a deviation of 4psi over all 4.Possible to get 44mpg on long trips.Amazing engine.
>>28936665You'd be mistaken battery boy
>>28936478Id like to know>how often those fuckhuge tires needed replaced>how many electric motors it ate up>what charge range he kept it at, these like to stay between 20-80%, making the range quite small
>>28936478At 15,000 miles per year, which is more than the average American drives, that's 20+ years of driving on a single car.
>>28936478How can EV compete with this?
>>28936478I don't think ICE can compete with EV at being a mobility appliance.
>>28936491boomers said the same shit about your front wheel drive hondas that you're nostalgic about. millennial retards have no self awareness at all.
>>28936491cars haven't been real since they introduced EFI
>>28936478>>28936629So if he averaged 200 miles per charge he had to charge it 1900 times. According to the internet a charge can cost from $10-25 for a charge at home or $20-30 at a tesla supercharge station. So let's say about $18 on average. That is $34,200 in charging fees...
>>28936859charching is free blumpy
>>28936863Sweet where can I pilfer some of this "free electricity?"
>>28936484buckshots your nig animalsorry pal
>>28936605I think my car is awesome. It sounds amazing at 7500 rpm.
>>28936859> According to the internetAHAHAHAHAHA THIS FUCKING LOSER DOESNT KNOW WHAT ELECTRICITY COSTS BECAUSE HE STILLS LIVES WITH HIS MOM HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>28936478I've driven Chevy Expresses with more miles than that on their original engine, tranny and fuel tank. They ran fine and made it there on less than a handful of oil changes.
>>28936478By not having to rely on these bullshit advertisement tik tok posts. I just spent 10s of thousands of dollars on an infiniti that was made before 2020. Guess how much they had to spend on marketing/influencers to get me to spend my money?
>>289366294mi/kwh400k miles26c/kwh in my areaHe's not charging overnight because taxi. That's $26000 not accounting for the 10-15% effiency loss of the charger. If he uses public chargers, it can be up to 50c/kwh. It's shit.
Now how many sets of tires did it go through. 380k while on og battery is ok I admit but there have been plenty of documented vehicles over the million mile marker when general maintenance is done on time
>>28936478>Driving 380,000 miles>In a Tesla 3>In ManitobaI'd rather just kys myself instead tbqhwy
>>28936798This webm sends me back to trying to get through the tutorial on Driver and just giving up such that I never got to play the game. lol
>>28936864He's in Manitoba, which means there are electrical outlets for block heaters in most parking lots, and with very few exceptions, they're free to use.
>>28936478EVs are a sound option if you don't live somewhere with power disruptions.
>>28936940Those are always off or temperature controlled. If it's -20 or below or whatever they set it to plugging into that outlet would still do fuck all in the way of charging. You'd be lucky to get the full 1800w out of those outlets after the voltage drop from the long runs and even then all of that would go to just keeping the battery warm. tldr: 120v charging is a non option.
>>28936478And yet the average cellphone battery lasts 2 years before dying and forcing you to switch, etc. The car companies would NEVER EVER EVER do this, right???
>>28936964Because cellphone batteries are shitty.Though OEM batteries have become much better in recent years.
>>28936964You're comparing 75kWh batteries with fuck huge cooling and cell stability mechanics to passively cooled 25Wh batteries using different chemical compositions. They're world's apart. Even then a modern phone lasts insane amount of charge cycles too.
>>28936953Ahh so you're telling me the "free charge" electric vehicle is a larp... Interesting that these guys would lie on the internet. So what's the true cost breakdown of the cost of charging vs the fuel cost for some little fuel sipper economy car? Anyone have any actual factual calculations?
>>28937472It's gonna vary quite a bit depending on your area and energy/fuel costs.I did a quick calc for my area when I was car shopping last year and it's about on par with a efficient hybrid in fuel costs if you used public L2 charging. If you use public quick charger, you will effectively have no savings compared to a regular gas car.The savings are really only if you charge at home at off peak hours.
>>28936649>uh my Goyota jeet hybrid acshually generates gasoline per driven mileLmao that's literally EV cope logic trying to explain how an Ev that can only drive 158 miles on a single charge is actually more efficient than a shitty old hybrid that can do 400 on a single tank because of some convoluted (and overall wrong) EV math
>>28937474So jumping through hoops to save a few pennies. Sounds about par for course. Yeah no thanks...
>>28937480It's wild. These people will eat $40 in food a day and run their A/C all the time, but will obsess over making cars shittier to pinch pennies.I just got the car I liked and I drive it. I've never once checked the mpg, and I'm not rich.
>>28936629>goes with US national average gas price, averaged out over 20 years = ~$3/gal (actual average adjusted for inflation is ~$4/gal)>uses EPA's combined mileage rating of 46mpg, instead of real world results which is closer to 43mpg>a reasonable to generous estimate for the ICE car>>28936863>>28936921>absolute worse case scenario, not even close to real world resultsGotta love how oil shills don't even try to hide their bad faith arguments, while EV posts are actually flattering towards ICE.Now for the real numbers, the energy price in Manitoba currently is ~9.5¢/kWh CAD (~7¢/kWh USD), and that's just now, not the average over the past 10 years which would be lower - and no, no one regularly uses superchargers, they're for road trips and emergencies, but let's throw in some just for the sake of it - the actual cost would be ~$10k USD in electricity costs for the car's lifetime.
>>28936629And he would have made it all back through lower insurance premiums
>tesla
2 of my cars are 30 years old and still have 100% of their fuel capacity.
>>28938144Yes but it produces less horsepower now than it did 30 years ago
>>28936886Prove him wrong, then, Cruise Control.
>>28938153I'll entertain this assumption.How much less horsepower does it produce and how does this translate to economy?
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>>28938216Indians hate EVs and love Goyota hybrids.
>>28938212I'm not sure desu
