It seems some people need a guide because they don't understand how their engine works.Yellow - This is where you should be when you're stopping, if you're in a high gear shift down to take advantage of engine breaking.Blue - Cruising RPMGreen - This is where 90% of your shift ups should happen in daily driving.Red - If you're going for maximum acceleration, shift here.
>>28938331jesus man, shift up at 6k RPM?This must be a ruse
>>28938334(To clarify, normal, every day daily driving, not doing freeway pulls or racing.)
>>28938334Daily driving is not track.You typically want be at 4-7 when going through the gears. Going past peak torque doesn't offer much beyond acceleration and increase engine strain unnecessarily.
you get more engine braking at higher RPMcruising depends on your fuel map, where the engine runs the leanest at a low load, it's typically around 2k-3k RPMwhere to shift depends on your gearing and how much the RPM drops when you go to a higher gear, you want your RPM to fall into peak torque
>>28938331There is zero benefit to having 3000rpm of powerband and another thousand for overrev. Whatever that example dynograph is referencing, it's a wasted design.
>>28938331>Cruising at 2500rpmSounds good to me
>>28938331>Where to driveThe whole entire
>>28938452>based pushGODs torqueThese weebs don't know
>>28938407>you get more engine braking at higher RPMWhich is why you want to shift down at low revs.>cruising depends on your fuel mapTrue, a literal case of YMMV.>you want your RPM to fall into peak torqueNot quite true, you want to be riding the top of the arc. so in OP's image you'll shift up at 7.5k and should land around 4.5k. But once again YMMV depending on the car/driver.
>>28938483>Which is why you want to shift down at low revs.no, low revs will not give you the most out of engine braking, you want to downshift from mid range if you want to really take advantage of engine braking
>>28938452https://www.101soundboards.com/sounds/178319-high-speed-low-drag
>>28938486>you want to downshift from mid range if you want to really take advantage of engine brakingThat's a given but I get the impression that some people on this board think 'mid' is that bit just before the red...
OP keeps getting gaped and doesn't know when to quit baking threads
11,000 rpm, every shift.
>>28938331>upshift at peak HPBad advice. This will put you further away from peak horsepower in the higher gear and you'll never actually be able to make use of all of your power because you're upshifting the moment you achieve it. With the curve in your image, you want to be spinning all the way out to redline (but not actually bouncing off the limiter since that cuts power) before upshifting. The name of the game is maximizing the area under the curve.
>>28938581You're right if you want to accelerate the quickest.OP is either trolling or underage and hasn't driven a car.
>>28938331mfw 4500rpm redline
>>28938657Hayasaka would be the only one in that show to enjoy driving.
>>28938662Hayasaka would probably be the only one that's any good at driving, but I feel like Chika would probably still enjoy scooting around in something dumb.
>>28938331Carroll Smith said to shift race cars where the RPM split between gears produces the most average torque.On my personal race car:Shifting at 7,000rpm produces 10 more average horsepower Shifting at 6,500rpm makes 21lbft more average torque.6,500rpm produces a slightly higher top speed on the straight.It's only faster to go to 7K when I don't want to shift into the next gear only to downshift 2-3 seconds later
>>28938509Funny you mention the group A 11,400rpm 4AG.It was actually faster to revve it to 9,500rpm.But it could go to 11k+ if you needed it too.
>>28938331What about if I only have one gear and I want to feel acceleration?What RPM range here will I feel the most pushback into my seat?
>>28938497This is the guy who was arguing with OP in the other thread trying to say engines make more torque at high rpm after the torque drops off.
>>28939054idle to red line repeatedly in first if you want to feel acceleration
>>28938331I upshift at 3k when I'm conservative, 4k when I'm giving it an oomph
>>28939058but what RPM range would I feel THE MOST acceleration?
>>28939064when vtec kicks in yo
uh my car's redline is 6500. what now
>>28938331>if you're in a high gear shift down to take advantage of engine breakingif uncle rodney comes knocking i'm gonna at least make sure he needs a battering ram
>>28938488Cruising at 2800rpm on the morning commute.
>>28939374Lol this is how you unironically need to cruise in some of these desert highways in cali
>>28938848You want to shift where you arrive at peak torque in the gear you're shifting into. Depending on gear ratios you're not always shifting at the same RPM.>>28939054That entirely depends on the characteristics of the engine spinning that gear
>tfw enough natural proprioception to shift by feel
