Kinda crazy when think about it. There unironically is no substitute. Never has been.
>>28938896>Ugly four cylinder from twenty years later>Cannot hold modern M4
can we filter images somehow? gotta get rid of that cumaro
>>28938904Tfw every actual camaro owner prefers a UDM while this larper posts a camaro image he doesnt actually own
>>28938895>Kinda crazy when think about itNot beating the brown man's wheels allegations
>>28938904md5 filter
>>28938895Every one of the red cars pictures has infinitely more soul and aura, thoughbeit
>best handling >floppy taxi chassis maccastruts
>>28939206t. never driven one
>>28938895and what the fuck you are supposed to do with it? shit daily. track toy? a brand new m3/m4 costs less than a mint e36 m3. beater? even a clapped down beater is ovepriced. 328i barely differs in performance while being much cheaper.yeah but the times when the e36 was new it was god-like times. but im not gonna be a poorfag and cope by saying that new bmws are shit. they kinda are, but they make easy power and make fun dailies.>the best bmw is the one one i can afford >:(((
>>28939049e46 m3 was unironically the benchmark for the alpha cumarrow >>28939212what he said they were biodegradable cars that fell apart 10 years after they were brand new, mine was one of the best driving cars i owned but fuck it was a headache and this was back in 2014-16. i wouldve been way happier with the (at the time) black '95 miata (5spd, torsen, $4000 w/100k miles owned by a schoolteacher, mint underneath) i passed on to buy this thing (110k miles, '97 lux package 2dr 5mt, had a clutch done, $6000) current year you're better off picking up a frsbrz or a nd1 mx5 or a rx8 + money saved for the $15k you spend on a 200k+ mile e36 m3
>>28938895>Kinda crazy when think about it
>>28938895>e36 m3, FR>macdonald's in the front, zlink in the backbetter than>honda nsx, MR, semimonocoque chassis>double wishbones all around>tested and tuned by ayrton sennaThis is the reason I give ZERO fucks about BMW promotion material (it's all fake and marketed towards t*rks)and ALL opinions of BMWfags are considered female.
>>28939049>every actual camaro owner prefers a UDMlol no they don't. BMW owners trade their cars for camaros. randy has driven every BMW there is, and he bought a Camaro.https://youtu.be/7zi6HZ_1FaQ?t=63
>>28939344senna didn't tune that. he drove it, said it was shit, and moved on.
>>28939344That's a sick pic. Is there any more like this?
>>28939344Holy based knower
1. Lateral Grip (300-ft Skidpad)This measures steady-state cornering. A fearless driver wants the highest "g" possible to carry more speed through a curve.Dodge Viper GTS: 0.96 g (The undisputed king)Chevrolet Corvette (C5): 0.93 gPorsche 911 Carrera S: 0.89 gAcura NSX-T: 0.88 gFerrari F355: 0.87 gBMW M3: 0.87 g (Tied for last with the Ferrari)2. Emergency Lane Change (Transitional Stability)This test simulates a double-lane change at high speed. It tests how quickly a car can settle after a violent weight transfer.Dodge Viper GTS: 67.3 mphChevrolet Corvette (C5): 65.5 mphAcura NSX-T: 64.9 mphFerrari F355: 63.4 mphBMW M3: 63.1 mphPorsche 911 Carrera S: 61.4 mph (The Porsche's rear-engine weight made it the hardest to manage here).3. Slalom Speed (Transient Handling)This measures how fast the car can weave through a series of cones. This is where "performance" meets "agility."Dodge Viper GTS: 63.6 mphAcura NSX-T: 63.0 mphFerrari F355: 62.7 mphBMW M3: 61.6 mphChevrolet Corvette (C5): 61.5 mphPorsche 911 Carrera S: 61.0 mphDodge Viper GTS: Statistically dominated every single category. It had the most grip and the highest transitional speeds.Acura NSX-T: Consistently 2nd or 3rd in every raw data category.Chevrolet Corvette (C5): High grip and high lane-change speeds, though it suffered slightly in the tighter slalom.Ferrari F355: Solid mid-pack performance; its high-revving engine didn't help it in the low-speed cone tests.BMW M3: Fifth Place. On paper, it was slower through the cones and had less grip than the American and Japanese cars.The flyer's claim that the M3 was the "Best-Handling" was based on a points system where the editors gave the BMW massive scores for "Steering Feel" and "Linearity." It’s basically a daily driver piece of shit
>>28939513>Randy pubesWho the fuck cares about this decrepit boomer shill. You could easily pick 50 mid tier drivers that btfo this guy.
>>28939513>gti shill randy lollmao
>lmao plastic coolant system (a consumable by design)>lmao sub frame mounts>lmao wiring that comes with an expiration date
>>28938895>muh luxuryslop>"this pared-down consumer version of a track car is better at driving slightly over the speed limit on the way to work than another pared-down consumer version of a track car"ugh, when will it end
>>28939713every single car lined up in that ad had power-adjustable leather seats and trim, advanced sound dampening, and a brand name sound system as standard. they are luxury cars, they have luxury features included to justify the price tag because nobody would pay it if it came equipped the way they do for motorsport.
>>28939745Your maccas strutted slushbox taxicab isn't a luxury car either
>>28939707an e36 is proborbably the furthest thibng from luxuryThe door card fell off when I closed the passenger door
>>28938895the real tragedy is how every one of these is now a 12+ owner shitbox that's been clapped and raped by countless ricers and white trash adding gay ass "modz" to them
>>28938895Cope: The ad
>>28939577>automotive experts agree that track cars are shit and what you want is soul
>>28938895>There unironically is no substitute. Never has been.Yeah, sure buddy
>>28939745Old BMWs are pretty fucking far from luxury. Maybe the 7 and 8 series breach that segment, but anything below that definitely doesn't
>>28939577look up the msrp of all those other cars and you'll see why it won. it was the cheapest one costing the modern equivalent of $55k usd (34k in 1998 bucks). the other cars just had big tire (mechanical grip) or were unironic exotics. e36 fitment was tiny compared to everything else; 225/45/17s and 245/40/17s on a 3200lb car.the cheapest one on that list is the c5 corvette and as a ex-e36 m3 owner the steering feel is THAT good on the e36. if anything its information overload. the closest i had to a similar rack was a evo 8/9. linearity = consistency too its a really hard car to bin unlike a nsx, s2000, or a f355 or a viper, you can be a complete fucking retard behind the wheel before the car throws you around and even then you can still recover easily. the closest equivalent to how the e36 m3 drives imo is either a rx-8 or a 1st gen frs/brz like i said >>28939234. car & driver are a bunch of bmw fanboy faggots but e36 m3s are the truth which is why you saw them so often on track until the last 5 years where age/attrition caught up to them. >>28939513https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/bad-gas-broken-parts-unbreakable-spirit/>My first One Lap was 1995 with TC Kline in a brand-new E36 M3 with his special suspension tuning. Proudly, we ran third overall to a new 993 911 Turbo and a built ’90s Trans Am, both driven by racing colleagues of mine.>The race engines were superb–those wailing, smooth sixes. And these cars were braking overachievers–heroes in stopping zones, weight distribution be damned. The E36 always seemed to squat rather than dive. Musta been in the rear geometry, and it worked. And today, the E36 chassis is still a very popular and winning track weapon.–Randy Pobsthttps://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/factory-backed-e36-chassis-bmw-m3-race-cars/
>>28940023>https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/bad-gas-broken-parts-unbreakable-spirit/>>My first One Lap was 1995 with TC Kline in a brand-new E36 M3 with his special suspension tuning. Proudly, we ran third overall to a new 993 911 Turbo and a built ’90s Trans Am, both driven by racing colleagues of mine.>>The race engines were superb–those wailing, smooth sixes. And these cars were braking overachievers–heroes in stopping zones, weight distribution be damned. The E36 always seemed to squat rather than dive. Musta been in the rear geometry, and it worked. And today, the E36 chassis is still a very popular and winning track weapon.–Randy Pobst>https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/factory-backed-e36-chassis-bmw-m3-race-cars/what does any of this have to do with people preferring BMWs over camaros, which i just gave two contradicting examples of?
>>28940100Randy Pobst wouldn't have a career if it wasn't for the E36 M3, and the Camaro was benchmarked against the E46. >Masch’s team set the benchmark for the ATS suspension at the E46 3 Series, which is widely believed to be the best handling 3 Series ever. Their hardcore standards led to them to believe BMW compromised the performance-focused chassis tune of the E46 with the current generation 3 series and will continue to move farther in the same direction with the next 3 due out later this year.
>>28940205all you're doing is coping. the ATS isn't even a camaro.
why is it do hard for some people to acknowledge the sheer superiority of the UDM?this isn’t even up for debate. it’s a fact. is it because some people have yet to pilot one? the UDM can’t be judged from a specsheet. it’s an experience
