>For Classics made from 1979 or older, with few exceptions.>Everybody has their own taste, but some tastes are wrong. If you aren't sure if your car is classic or not, it's not.>Your Honda Miata doesn't belong here.>US, Euro, Jap, or whatever.>Post your classic, your work on it, your hackery, and get advice.>Any and all discussion about classics welcome, but may not necessarily generate responses; don't get butthurt.>Period correct performance > cosmetics.>Metal > plastic.>Classic shitbox > modern shitbox.>JBweld and RTV can fix anything>If you see rust there is more.>Rust and bodywork are the most difficult thing to repair.>Electrical work is difficult until you stop reading forum posts and buy a multi-meter.>Low oil pressure? Worn mains and rod bearings. Use Lucas and 15W40 until you afford a rebuild.>Do NOT buy a classic and plan to pay someone to work on it. You need to be able to do 90% or more of the work or you will go broke.>You will spend twice your budget, unless you have years of experience. If the salty old hands agree, it's true.>If you can't tune a carb you might literally be retarded>Nothing is as easy as it seemsprevious thread: >>28899085
Good morning I hate carfoids
Finished changing the rad hoses and flushing the old stingray today. Gotta say, I hate myself a little. I pulled the lower hose without using the drain pitcock because I saw some little mineral bits when I removed the upper hose. So, I wanted to make sure I had a nice large opening to drain before the proper flush. Had a decent size drain pan but not wide enough for all the fucking capillary runs yanking the tube off. Long story short, I was a moron and forgot Antifreeze is not just Ethyl Glycol but has phosphoric acid in it, so the concrete in my garage now has a lot of new green stains even after mopping.Good news is all hoses are in, new coolant is in and nothing leaks. I probably should have pulled the surge tank too because it has clay and dust accumulated, but I have to yank the fender well to do that and I'm tired, boss. With the big C4 rad in her, I had to fight and wiggle for every sixteenth to get the hose and clamp on the bottom.
>>28939585would
Who says 1979 is the limit? Why that year specifically?
>>28939967Because Steve from accounting said so, now fuck off.
>>28939967Well the limits actually 74 now, it used to be 79 because I had a 79, but now that I have a 74 it went down. I basically set it because I’m the main character and you guys are all NPCs
welp. ended up just hammering the core plug back in because i couldn't get it out. hopefully it doesn't pop out again...hoping that it only did because it wasn't hammered in so the top edge sat just inside the hole, it was just above that
>>28940099spics cant be main characters, sorry.t. aryan man
>>28939967It's an old OP that nobody bothers to update anymore.
>>28939967That's the cutoff age for smog in California. All the old hot rod rags are from there so it got spread nationwide as the "standard" to gen x and boomers.Anything over 25yo is a classic and shouldn't be taxed for registration. Simple as. Imagine wanting to extra every single cent from a guy driving some 95 Corolla that you'd actually lobby the government to change the definition of classic car. That's what boomers are doing rn on their deathbed it's insane.
>>28940519Extract*
>>28939967probably some autist, the cutoff is 85
>>28939967>Real answer:Drastic shift in automobile design, engineering and construction.'74 was was the initial changeover with some platforms continuing to around '79 so it's difficult to set a hard limit.And no, just because a vehicle is "old" does not make it a classic.By definition a classic is something that stands out, something unequaled by its peers.
>>28940519It’s 75 in California I had to smog my Camaro
>>28940519>Anything over 25yo is a classicAge does not a classic make.Youre talking about vintage.Classic registration typically has mileage limits. If classic status can be revoked then its nothing more than political fanfare.
I found that my Volvo is running like poo because it's pushing voltage through the EGR control circuit. The ezk actually never grounds it even when it should. It looks like I'm going to have to megasquirt or swap the car sooner than I wanted, the 35 year old computers are not doing well
>>28941179already tried cleaning up the grounds? electricity does take the path of least resistance so it seems like it has decided the EGR circuit is that
>>28941210ezk controls the ground side, multimeter says resistance to ground is too high to measure but 2.5 volts is going through it, i haven't tried depinning it but i just lost the ground control for the fuel pump relay last week and its never trying to control the egr either
>>28941310ahh right, ok i'm not familiar at all with volvos, i didn't even know what an ezk was. but seems like some sort of control module/computer for them? can you open it up and see if any of the components have gone bad? wondering if it's like the 90s jap ECUs that had bad caps that needed to be replaced eventually.
"i know what i got" ausfag edition, asking price 66 thousand. i reckon he put the year in the wrong field.
>>28941363could post in this thread >>28916995>classic not plastic>the shitty american muscle platedeserved a better owner. plus that dent in the door lol. does appear to be RHD converted though, don't think they ever sold any caddys here, apparently back in the day it was just pontiacs and chevys and even those were considered uber expensive.
>>28941347Perhaps, but a 302/t5 swap is relatively easy and I have a junk sn95 with a cobra motor in it I'd like to not work on again
anyone ever rodded a radiator before? how do you take apart the tanks and solder them back together? Very new to soldering, the pakistani radiator repair videos I've been watching, I see the worker sometimes dabbing some sort of liquid on to the part right before soldering it, what is it?
>>28942775Flux maybe?
>>28942850This. It's flux.Also, took the old Stingray out today to work since it's off for most people and I don't have to worry about retards chipping it. Looks like the radiator flush and hose change was a success. Everything cools right and fluid levels are getting consistent as the air burps out of the system.Need to drill out the plenum drain rivets so I can replace them and give her a good hose wash.
smashed my oil pan and didn't know (usually the trans crossmember hits)made it into my driveway and only a litre spilled outfuck
Met a dude from a few towns over with a second gen Camaro, gave him a BUNCH of stuff I had for my 79. Dude refuses to not pay me and dropped me a couple hundred bucks even though I kept telling him he could have everything for free. Feels good to know it’s going to another enthusiast
>>28939921I prefer the woman in the OP
>>28944838Lucky, man. What the hell did you hit other than a really deep pothole?
Completed the first engine break in. Ran for 25minutes between 2k-3k rpm slowly adjusting the idle screw back and forth to vary the rpm. No abnormal noises, nice constant 50psi of oil pressure I'm pretty happy. I have yet to drain the oil and check the filter but im feeling optimistic
>>28945514>SBF and hydroboostwat car?
>>28945061utilities were poorly laid so they sunk and created a deep dip in the road. previous owner lowered the car to the extent that it should be on airbags at this height
>>28945613>wat car?Knew I'd seen that firewall before. It's a First Gen Bronco. They didn't come with HB. Manual brakes had a master that was mounted normally but power brakes got you the pictured abortion.
>>28946419what in FUG is that booster mount
>>28946472Its a tiny truck with a 302 V8.If it was perpendicular to the firewall (normal) the booster would hit the valve cover.
>>28946718that's fair. i guess it could be worse and they could've done a chrysler where the engine is offset so then RHD converted models get fuck all space on that side of the engine bay...
>>28946948Its actually kind of weird because on paper a '66 Mustang is about a quarter of an inch narrower than a '66 Bronco and it has a normal setup.But since the Bronco is 4x4 (ALL Bronco are 4x4 BTW. And no, a Bronco II doesnt count. Thats a different nameplate. Its like saying a Chevette is a Chevelle because they share most of the same letters).The Bronco's BOF architecture and suspension geometry led to a completely different engine bay design. Really gives credit to the old school designers who had to do this on a drafting table with a pen and slide rule before computer aided design existed.The first gen Bronco interior wasnt cramped by design but by necessity- the seating position had to be shifted inward to make everything fit around the driver.
>>28947180>But since the Bronco is 4x4 (ALL Bronco are 4x4 BTW.No shit?
>>28947235Yep.Bronco was always about offroad.Shit gets even stranger.My 1990 Mustang is 2.6" longer than my 1985 Fullsize Bronco. Ive posted pics of them side by side here before.. Shit is so weird.You'll see the Bronco number fluctuate and be slightly longer than the fox body but thats only due to a rear step bumper option thats about 4 inches deeper than the standard.Bronco has always been nimble. First gen has a crazy tight turning radius. Even the Fullsize Bronco is a complete surprise.My '85 has a tighter radius than all hilux models except the standard cab shortbed. So the model with that 6" extra cab like pic (?), ya a 1980-1996 Fullsize Bronco can u-turn on a tighter trail.Its really weird when youre in a lifted fullsize truck on some tiny residential street and you can just flip it around without touching a curb.
>>28947260To clarify-#1)I mean "all hilux" for U.S. market. I havent cross checked the platform after we lost it so dont know numbers after that.#2)Ford continued (surprisingly) with the original spirit of the Bronco and ALL nuBronco are also 4wd, as in all current versions.
>>28947270Wheelbase:Shortest hilux- 103"Extra cab short bed- 112.2"Standard cab long bed- 121.5"Bronco- 104.7Weird shit.
>>28947260sounds like the humvee. the turning radius of that thing is about 25 ft, while a camry is 40 ft
>>28947290Bronco is 27 iircHumvee is crazy that it can cross a 3 foot wide ditch at like a 30° angle without a wheel dropping down.But they're slow ass turds.>they never finish first in baja but they always finish.
>>28947260my dad always loved the turning radius of his but i dont understand not just clutch dumping in the grass to turn around.
>>28947290I used to have a bronco don’t remember the year think it was late 80s shit could do a u turn inside a parking space
>>28947488Found a (s)pic
>>28939548 (OP) (OP) (OP)>Classic Cardumb request here. I'm writing a story over on /lit/ and i nned junk yard pics. maybe someone here might have a pic of classic cars in junk yards? if so, ill grab it and use it in a plot point that is coming up. junk yard in generral if you have it. 2, 3 scenes occur in junk yards.also i might be back if any one is into writing fiction, as i will need a mechanic in the future scene.thanks in advance.here is the storyhttps://i.4cdn.org/lit/1778735299246355.pngfaqhttps://i.4cdn.org/lit/1778736010312604.png
>>28939548 (OP) (OP) (OP) (OP) >Classic Car dumb request here. I'm writing a story over on /lit/ and i nned junk yard pics. maybe someone here might have a pic of classic cars in junk yards? if so, ill grab it and use it in a plot point that is coming up. junk yard in generral if you have it. 2, 3 scenes occur in junk yards. also i might be back if any one is into writing fiction, as i will need a mechanic in the future scene. thanks in advance. here is the story https://i.4cdn.org/lit/1778735299246355.png (embed) faq https://i.4cdn.org/lit/1778736010312604.png (embed)main thread.>>>/lit/25248798
>>28939548 >Classic Car dumb request here. I'm writing a story over on /lit/ and i nned junk yard pics. maybe someone here might have a pic of classic cars in junk yards? if so, ill grab it and use it in a plot point that is coming up. junk yard in generral if you have it. 2, 3 scenes occur in junk yards. also i might be back if any one is into writing fiction, as i will need a mechanic in the future scene. thanks in advance. here is the story https://i.4cdn.org/lit/1778735299246355.png (embed) faq https://i.4cdn.org/lit/1778736010312604.png (embed)main.>>>/lit/25248798
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>>28947601I took some pics of vintage cars (50s) from my last trip to a local junkyard and was going to post but then I read your thread in lit and want nothing to do with that garbage.
>>28944308Great looking paint/color on that C3. I am helping my father with his '81 C3 that he just bought. My father's C3 looks OK from far away but has a cheap paint job and some mechanical issues. We flushed the coolant, addressed power steering leaks and changed the oil this week and will be using a smoke machine to find vacuum leaks this week (headlights do not pop up, idle is too high). When the car was on two jack stands, which I placed as in the manual (on frame behind front wheels), it seemed like the front clip sagged downward slightly. After 4 days on jack stands, I noticed a 2" long stress crack in the front clip (it already had others, but this one seemed new) above an old repair on one of the fenders. How do you lift and support your C3? Thank you.
>>28948992>it seemed like the front clip sagged downward slightlyYou have hidden rot.
designing the biggest garage i can fit on my property while still having some space for fruit trees and a garden. also have a front attached garage for commuter so this will be for classics only. lift will be adjacent to the 26' wallceiling will be 13'9"only change i'm making is making the 10' door 11' towards the outside. anything else i should do?
>>28949745getting a hoist or two? make sure there's enough room that it's not blocked by the doors (if not roller doors)
>>2894974518' wall makes more sense for the smaller door if youre having the lift a straight shot on the big door.Think if it as top bay & bottom bay.Right now you have top bay and 1/2 bay jammed next to main bay.Where the smaller door is now would be toolbox/work bench area between both bays.
>>28949799thanks i actually hadn't considered thatwill have to look into insulated roller doors>>28949804>18' wall makes more sense for the smaller doornot an option, that's the neighbour's property; lane is along the angled sectioni'm doing the best with what i have
what's the best way to decant these things?
>>28950589
>>28949887>not an option,Not sure if youre playing tetris or trying to squeeze 10 pounds of shit into a 5 bag.Are the trees already planted?
>need to replace my wrecked oil pan>take a quick at manual picrelEVERY FUCKING TIME WITH THIS CAR
>>28950936Dude ive had way worse.A couple designs you have to either remove the engine or lift it enough to get a 4" gap, drop thae pan, reach inside and drop the oil pump into the pan (blind) then slide out pan.And ya, installing isthe reverse and really fun.
>>28950936DUDE WEED
>>28950948oh yeah i know those ones too, but it's not usually classics. like the 7.3L ford diesel. there's kits to just glue on a plastic pan over the rusted out metal ones to stop a leak>>28950951what
>>28948992>How do you lift and support your C3?Just on the frame rails. I haven't had it up for days at a time, though. Mine's also nearly a decade older than yours so it might not be exactly the same.
>>28939967'80-'81 is the hard cutoff for when cars went from grand and epic to these corporate boxy things. Yeah this really started in the early 1960's but by 1981 it was unavoidable no matter the price point unless you wanted to blow 100 grand '81 equiv. on a kraut kar.
>>28950936This is just how owning a ford is. For is cringe and gay but they're cheap compared to GM/chrysler so I can't complain
>>28950936This is just how owning a ford is. Classic ford is cringe and gay but they're cheap compared to GM/chrysler so I can't complain
>>28942775The part that really tends to go is the trans cooler. You can't really solder it shut because it's a high-pressure vessel. You can;t get new ones either because nu-diators are plastic and aluminum....so you'd need an expensive recore and a transcooler+mounting but actually the purpose of the rad transcooler is also to WARM the tranny initially and aughgh just store the copper core rad in the attic for whe it's valuable and buy a 200 dollar alum performance rad. As a bonus those never ever ever overheat because they're all built for turbo LS swaps.
>>28951108yeah im looking at alum rads now. much cheaper than i previously thought too.gonna use the copper one to practice desoldering and see if i can rod it out myself and put it all back together again.
>>28951104>>28951105you talk like a fag and your shits all retarded
>>28951096Thank you for the reply. I will continue placing the jacks on the frame rails as the Chilton manual specifies. From what I've seen on forums the frame and birdcage of early 70s C3s and my father's 1980 are quite similar. I kept it on jacks for several days (not a great idea I realize now; car is from Ohio and probably has birdcage rust to some extent) because I was trying to fit in repair time before work, but in future I'll try to to the job in 1 day and not have the car elevated for so long.
>>28950936why are you reading a manual first lol just take the pan off and deal with the problems as they come
>>28952281>don't own manual>takes 3x as longcouldn't be me
>>28939548I've been eyeing a Datsun 120y for 800 as my first car ever. Is it too much of a stupid choice? Owner states it's in runnng condition and pics show some rusting it the trunk area. I find it the only reasonable "classic" I can aim to buy as in this turdie shithole no one cares about old cars besides 80s corollas
I was driving down the highway and the center cap on the speedo fell off and starting rattling hard. At first I thought it was something really bad from the engineWas a huge fucking relief
>>28952430>Is it too much of a stupid choice?So, it's in 'running' condition and has rust in the trunk. Wow. That sounds like my 280zx and I drive that thing everywhere within a 100 mile radius.
don't have access to a welder currently so i'm taking the oil pan to a shop.first time i've ever had work done by someone else
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9t_GCMzMoPIlollmao
>>28952649I'm asking more in the reliability of the model, as my hands on knowledge of car repair consists entirely on changing tires, oil and brakes, while my mechanical knowledge comes from a few too many hours on My Summer CarHonestly I don't know if it's a good idea for a first project car, or if i should play it more safe with a 90s celica or starlet i've seen at a similar 1k price
>>28952890non shorts link?
>>28952914Get the one with good parts availability for your country. Nothing is worse than a car you can't find brake parts, for example.Now, the Datsun 120y (aka B210 in the US) has an 'A' series engine which is reliable. I'm even finding brake parts to rebuild the rear drums and I'm in the US! Amazing. It's also a very simple car to get running from what I've read and seen.I'm going to guess that you're in the Philippines or nearby from the mention of the Toyota Starlet. Those are pretty neat little cars too and go look at those as well so you can see if you like them.You also really want to have a bicycle, scooter, bus, something else as an alternative just in case your project car needs parts and isn't running.tldr; get the one you can find parts for, the one that you like, and the one that won't bankrupt you
dear dudes. where the fuck do i find the magic deals anymore? it's no longer only the delusional boomers who "know what i got", the internet has killed everything and i can't remember the last time i stumbled upon a magic deal that i couldn't pass up.
>>28953570newspaper classifieds from people who refuse to or don't know how to use computers or the internet
>>28953570Friends.>be at work before shift starts>dude pulls in in a ranger>ask coworker about it >he says "he bought it for his daughter but she wont drive it so its his DD to save on gas now">say "damn I wish i had a ranger to just fuck around with".>coworker says "my dad has one he'll sell for $200"What.jpg>is it a 4 banger?>nope v6>standard cab, right?>nope, extra cab>so its 2wd?>nope, 4x4Pretty sure thats verbatim>ill hit the ATM and follow you home....Long story short->dude wanted to build a nice ranger for his son (coworker), but (coworker) wanted fullsize so multiple rangers in yard to build one super ranger (off this one).>minor dents>call flatbed, drag it up on rims because tires are rotted>get home>$5 in gas and a new batteryDamn thing fired and idled so smooth that if I posted a video you'd claim it wasnt running.
>>28953604Nice. I paid 7K for my nice 6 cylinder ranger last Christmas. Still was a good deal as nice a shape as she was in with a brand new engine rebuild.
She likes to hang out inside the engine too. Always gotta check under the hood before I leave.
>>28953993>4wd dentsidetruck or bronco?
>>28954001Bronco
>>28952309sounds like wrenchlet speak
got it done. replaced PS line at the same time. also noticed a broken off bolt at the rear of the pan. ignored that. maybe i'll get to it once I redo all this when i decide to the rear main seal. take note of the stunning reinforcement the shop did. thats sure to catch on something and rip the whole pan off, so i need to bevel it at least.i'll ignore that for now, too
>>28955703>when the DEI hire at the CIA is in charge of planting the tracker on your car....
>>28955703Some reason you're not just getting some new struts and some camber bolts to fix that retarded level of ground clearance?
is the 71 challenger anon still around? are you able to grab a photo of the radiator mounting holes/bolts relative to the top and bottom tanks? got my eye on an aluminium radiator sold locally, but I think it's for an E body so I want to see if the mounting points were identical across all chrysler platforms back then.
Just waiting for my chrome mirror so I can throw the fuzzy dice up
praying to the jb weld gods that my vacuum dash pot barb repair holds up in the morning once it's mostly cured...shouldn't have to touch it after that though.
>>28960099aww yiss it worked. heater controls working as expected again. someone on the assembly line must've not been paying attention because one pot had to have the red and white vacuum lines reversed...
>>28961336>someone on the assembly line must've not been paying attention because one pot had to have the red and white vacuum lines reversed...So it never worked since it left the factory 40 years ago (?)
Finally got my '68Riviera home, all the major stuff works fine, just little bits here and there need freshing up
Got it set to -.40 camber +3.35 caster and 1/16 total toe in
>>28961618either that, or that one time i got under the dash and unplugged them for whatever reason without taking pics of what it looked like.in any case, the FSM says 'red to rod side' and the left vacuum pot had to have the red side on the pot side instead otherwise the fresh air door would be shut unless the off switch was pushed in (which turns off the blower motor too)
>>28962342it's beautiful, the brightwork looks immaculate
>>28962342were these built on the same platform as impalas? my mate has a 67 2 door and i never realised how huge it was till i saw that it was still longer than my 4 door dodge lol
>>2896246320 bucks says the diverter on the firewall is plumbed wrong after you or the last owner replaced hoses or pulled them off because they were in the way for something unrelated.
>>28953570There's a big block c10 near me for 1500. I don't have space for it :(
>>28962512>I don't have space for itPost pics of your yard.I guarantee I can tetris in another 6x19 block....
>>28962494i don't think mine even has a diverter in the firewall due to being factory converted to rhd. the fresh air intake is right above the left front kick panel where a relay or fuse block would sit in some cars. i think it leads to the vent cowl below the wiper arms.i couldn't see any vacuum lines controlling any actuators going there, only ones going to the rear air vents under the rear windscreen. so i suspect that left flap is meant to act as the fresh air door.in any case, the vacuum pump showed me that routing the hoses any other way would result in it not working as expected.
>>28962487>were these built on the same platform as impalas?Impalas are B-body and the Riviera/Toronado/Eldorado are E-body.
Wowee. The toyota sealed beam housings arrived and the difference in light pattern/throw is pretty big. it actually throws out the light in a useable pattern, compared to the cheap auto store ones I previously had on them. Definitely worth getting for their price.>>28962620o rite
>>28962466Thanks buddy, it's in real nice shape considering it wasn't babied or carried around as a show car. The guy who owned it lived down a gravel road too so the paint has some little chips here and there, gives it a nice lived in feel
finally got this thing dialed in and it fucking rips
>>28963528did you replace the iron heads with aluminium heads? how do you feel they compare?
>>28963551it was a ground up build. the old motor from the previous owner was a 383 with a nice cam and dart iron eagles and this feels like it has double the power with a slightly smaller cam and the CNC 195 AFRs. night and day overall.
>>28963557nice. am looking at some aluminium heads for my mopar 383. gonna go with a mild hydraulic roller cam, not looking to make a crazy drag racer build.
>>28963565sweet. my opinion is get the best heads you can afford, you'll never regret that.
>>28963557Love my AFRs.Current prices are retarded though. Glad I bought mine 15+ years ago.
>>28963606yeah $2500 was a tough one to swallow but i'd do it again. they're fucking sick
>>28963572duly noted. afr don't seem to make big block mopar stuff rip.
>good 240z for good price came up on marketplace todaythe dream is about to be realised boys
>>28963630that sucks. maybe check out promaxx. i remember they had good flow numbers and out of all the ones i was eying (others were brodix, profiler, flotek) i think they're the only brand that have anything for your motor.
>>28963640looking into them now. looks like they get the same heads as the other companies from chinese foundries then mills them as needed. seems like the owner is a pretty cool guy too, tells people upfront which is nice and people say the cnc jobs are very good for the price.
>>28963696
>>28963696>>28963698does it work?
>>28963751Lol.No.One v-belt powers all 3, it would be slip & squeel city for about 20 seconds until the belt just smoked and failed.
>>28963696>>28963698Jesus christ, how would this have even worked? Like, where's the carb gonna go? Is it even carbed? If not, then where's the injector(s)? Jeez.
>>28963908Considering the hood is actually cut out for it i would guess its a joke and just looks like its doing something for rat rod shows.The "box intake" has a door on it held closed with wingnuts so theres probably a carb sitting in there that pulls from atmosphere.The blowers are probably gutted.
>>28963696>>28963698Has science gone too far??
>>28963757it depends on the reduction on the jackshaft.but it never wouldve sealed that shitty carb envclosure even if.
>>28965737Greased Geese Special
>checking the engine of my dad's moggy>notice that the vacuum advance isn't working>rubber elbow on the unit's pipe turns to dust when I touch it>unit itself fails vacuum test>buy a new advance unit and pipe elbow >decide to do a quick tune up while I'm at it>reset ignition advance and go to take a look at the carb>fuel hoses perishing>i_sense_a_pattern_emerging.jpg>grab some new fuel hose and replace it>tune up carb>decide to go and check other rubber items, just in case>bonnet pads perished>suspension bushes perished>left side suspension bump stop perished>right side suspension bump stop has left the chat entirely>he comments about how the tyres are still pretty good though>tread is indeed A+, but take a closer anyway>cracks in many places>feels pretty stiff, too>take a look at the date code>39th week of 1992GG, I guess, not sure I should've expected any different.
