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>>28947679the brakes failed because he held the pedal down for the whole drive
>is that brap i smell?
>>28947679>1300hp car>brake rotors more pathetic than a shitbox Honda accord and he's riding them because the cars idle is more powerful than the brakesI'm gonna miss boomers when they're gone, because they were entertaining people.
>>28947682Crawl at idle is an option. Being an idiot is genetic.
>>28947689>>28947682esl retards keep fucking branching into new alternate realities of what happened.the brakes dragged and boiled the fluid.these calipers/rotors are perfectly fine by size.it's mostly more to do with willwoods being shit and probably more cheap shit parts or possibly the master/booster pushrod is set incorrectly.
>>28947794>new alternate realities of what happened>these calipers/rotors are perfectly fine by sizeNo they were not, it was a 1600hp drag racing car with a stuck throttle/ high idle like the other guy said. They even showed it in the aftermath video where right before the crash the driver admits to riding the brakes to keep the car from taking off.
SHITSHITSHIT
HOLD ON
was his best option really to just plough into the back of the nearest family SUV?
>>28947689>>28947794>>28947812Those brakes would've been perfectly fine for street driving if the dude wasn't riding the brakes because he was too dumb to put a second throttle return spring like intended due to "it ruining the aesthetics".Doesn't matter what kinda brakes he has on his car if they don't work due to misuse.
>>28948052Yes. They were all illegals and fled the scene.
>>28948063Most modern motorcycles have positive throttle return, rolling off closes the throttle even without a spring.Except my KTM, which uses a single cable. Tots sketch. Fucking Austrians, just as bad as the Germans.
>>28948075I rear-ended a woman once who then fled the scene. The crash was my fault, too. Shit was cash.
>>28948075Except it wasn't, it was some woman and her kids in the minivan.
>>28948371>woman and her kidsAnd they were illegal aliens. That's why this idiot still has a show and hasn't been sued into bankruptcy.
>>28948381You also claimed they fled the scene, but that wasn't true either, and the boomers gave an update since they'd been in contact with the family about their condition and had remained on the scene. So I have to doubt everything you say at this point.
>>28948075>>28948371both literally fanfictionhttps://www.carscoops.com/2022/07/1300-hp-mercury-comet-violently-rear-ends-minivan-after-brake-failure/>Fortunately, neither the passenger nor driver of the Comet were seriously injured, nor was the driver of the minivan.
>>28948386Based fact poster.
>>28947679Do you think these guys are still friends after that?
>>28948391theyre not friends hes just some jew youtuber who films other peoples cars
>>28948386>Fortunately, neither the passenger nor driver of the Comet were seriously injured, nor was the driver of the minivan.Lol.What kind of bullshit claim is this??Driver had to have his right arm rebuilt when he blew out his elbow. He'll be in pain for the rest of his life.The passenger left half his teeth on the floorboard and had to have facial reconstruction.
>>28947907How the FUCK has this not got loads of replies
>>28948391Very obscure Bateman post.
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>>28947812>admits to riding the brakes to keep the car from taking off.ANY brake pad and rotor would eventually fail doing that. those rotors and pads he had on that car could still stop the car, but it'd be like drum brakes - one, maybe two? panic stops, then you have to let it cool down for a while because the bext one isn't going to slow you down...
>>28947812Pretty much this. Being a max level boomer, he focused entirely on the engine but still had it on the tiny stock brakes.
>>28951333>had it on the tiny stock brakes.That Comet came with 4 wheel drums.It would have stopped fine with the factory drums.It would have (did) stop just fine with the aftermarket discs.He drove for a half hour to the shop then another half hour around town for the video, riding those brakes and holding back a 1,300HP drag engine with a stuck throttle.The brakes proved they were more than adequate- they performed within design parameters for an hour.>>28951333ANY and ALL brakes would have failed at some point because he cooked them off.Blaming the brakes for the accident is like blaming an engine builder that their motor seized because you forgot to put coolant in it.Im repeating this for the 50th fucking thread because people still dont seem to understand what happened.
>>28951438The engine isn't even a factorIf you ride the brakes on any car for an hour you're going to glaze everything and boil the fluid making the whole thing useless
My old roommate, who was incredibly naive about most things, decided he wanted to buy and "restore" an old classic car. I came home one day to see a 1962 Buick Electra sitting in the driveway. It took him about 2 months to get the thing running, essentially completely replacing the ignition system and most of the fuel system. I told him to be careful driving the thing, he has no idea how terrible the suspension & brakes are on cars this old. He of course did not listen. The very first time he drove it, he flew through an intersection and T-boned a cargo van because he was expecting it to be able to stop in the same amount of time as his Honda Accord. Luckily, he walked away with just a gash on his forehead from hitting it on the steering wheel.
>>28951698the shooped mirror is too much, the reflection in the blower is enough
lap belt's just fine
>>28947794
>>28951478>how terrible the suspension & brakes are on cars this oldIt baffles me how people always assume that old cars have bad brakes, despite the fact that a modern car's brakes are essentially identical in both form and function... Either he always brakes so late that ABS has been carrying him for the entire time he's been driving, or he was going too fast for even a modern car to deal with. I'm also going to assume that he never checked the tires, and they were probably old enough to not even have a date code, thus meaning that they were closer to plastic than rubber. Either way, this is very much a skill issue on the part of your window-licking roommate.
>>28947907I recently watched the full video, that starts from the moment he leaves his house. It’s unironic kino, which somehow happens to have a three act structure. What sets off his sense of urgency is a call from his brother or someone he’s familiar with, asking if he’s going to make it in time to see his mother.
>>28952205I guarantee he bought some basket case and never checked brakes, not even fluid.Ive locked up 4 wheel drums with organic pads on modern radials.
>>28952247>Ive locked up 4 wheel drums with organic pads on modern radials.first time i tried drum brakes and the car lurched while locking up the wheels crawling along in the street lol. those were damn touchy brakes.
>>28952260drum brakes have a little quirkWhen the pads touch the drum, it drags the pads and they press harder
>>28952341oh yeah i read up about the whole self energising thing but i still wasn't expecting that lel
I wonder where the car is today
>>28947689Wilwood dynalite brakes are unironically the worst calipers you can buy. The flex very bigly, and muchly.
>>28952362I still don't get how this happened, he should have been on the clutch at every stop. Unless his car was speeding out of control in normal driving and he held the brakes down for an hour just to keep the car at normal speeds during the drive. That's intentionally negligent behavior. And even then he should've been on the clutch as soon as his brakes went out, but in the video it looks like he shifted and actually accelerated, fucking guy didn't even know how to drive the retarded monstrosity he built.
>>28952205>car's brakes are essentially identical in both form and functionNo. If you don't sit in a position where you can put your entire body weight on them, you will get into a hairy accidents on a older car. Post ABS era you can get away with barely touching the pedal, and with a braking assist you can realistically get away from some hairy accidents while still barely being able to reach the pedal. Which then turn into a sematic question.The brakes will often have similar max capacity. But at something like 1/3 travel the modern car will basically stop, while a pre ABS car will be tuned that way to ensure you still can find the bite point before locking OR have a somewhat safe experience pump braking in a emergency.
>>28952205old cars don't necessarily have bad brakes but they have TINY brakes
>>28952362>it had double springs on the throttle.Bullshit.IF they were there they were improperly installed.This has been part of track inspection for like 70 years to avoid this exact scenario.Hes either lying to save face or lying to get out of a negligence lawsuit
>>28952929>t. Doesn't understand brakes.We've had 500 threads on surface area vs friction coefficients.You have a 5 yearolds understanding of brakes and think that larger pads/discs equate to more "clamping force".Thats not how it works.Larger size is for heat dissipation.20 square inches of brake bad applies the same amount of force as 40 square inches of brake pad.Dont (you) me without citations, I wont respond to "nuh uh, thats not what I think" drivel.
>>28951438>>28951453This, always been saying that the brakes were "fine" for street driving, as long as you're not fucking retarded, which he unfortunately was.
>>28952925Yes. Starting around the mid 30's, most cars have used a hydraulic braking system that has remained virtually unchanged since it first became common place. Servo assisted brakes have made it virtually effortless to lock the brakes, sure, but unassisted brakes that are properly setup still do not require you to "put your entire body weight on them". I regularly drive all of pic rel, two of which have unassisted brakes, and not a single one of those cars requires anything more than leg effort alone to lock the brakes - no special positioning or body weight required. The only vehicles I've driven that *have* required body weight have been vintage commercial stuff, but considering the sheer size and weight of those vehicles, I can hardly say I'm surprised.>>28952929True to some degree, but smaller brakes are only a problem for repeated or continuous braking events, such as racing or descending steep inclines. For day to day driving and the occasional emergency stop, they're still more than adequate.
>>28953001yeah I probably shoulda specified, I meant, if you experience a crippling skill issue in an older car like I have, twice, you're going to overheat and warp your brakes faster than you would in a modern car that has larger brakes and stupid huge rims with a lot of airflow.bought that thing in 2023 and it's already got its third set of rotors on it, lol
>>28953791you DID take that thing on the tail of the dragon though. might be worth looking into getting some brake ducting if there's room. and get cryotreated rotors too or get someone to treat them if you can. they'll last a lot longer.
>>28953001>larger pads/discs equate to more "clamping force".they do
>>28953837Only if there's bigger/more pistons behind them.>>28953001You can't just look at things in isolation, ideal world physics doesn't work in real world where real materials are squishy and don't transmit force evenly.
>>28952898>clutchIt's an automatic. Better in drag-oriented cars for most people.>but in the video it looks like he shifted and actually acceleratedIt has an aftermarket ratcheting shifter but that wasn't a factor. He went for Park and in the videos with sound you can hear the pawl grinding so he got it in Park but the car was going too fast for the pawl to fall into the sprocket until after impact. THEN you can hear a clack and the car jerks a bit as it engages.
>>28953791>>28953803Makes me wonder if the rear brakes are doing anything. Everything from adjustment to hose/line/shuttle valve in the proportioning valve are suspect at that cars age
>>28953843>"physics dont work in the real world"The new Dark Age will be heralded by individuals like yourself.
>>28954061Not the person you were replying to, but I think he meant in the context of 'in the real world there are much more variables at play than in a physics textbook example'.
>>28953001larger discs place the pads further from the center of the wheel and thus generate more braking force
>>2895411650 pounds of force spread over 50 square inches is 1 pound per inch.50 pounds of force spread over 100 square inches is 1/2 pound per inch.Rotor/brake pad size doesnt affect "clamping force".Every variable is in the textbook.This isnt the 6rh century where we didn't understand why one type of iron ore was stronger than another.
>>28953847I mean the parkign brake works fine and it is the rear drums>>28953803I should really do brake ducting, I just dunno how, I'd probably fuck it up and get the tubing pinched by the suspension
>>28954234My fries were cold, make it again.No I don't care they were warm in the textbook you read, MAKE MY FUCKING FRIES AGAIN.
>>28953837caliper piston bore size in conjunction with the master cylinder bore determines the amount of pressure applied to the pad. bigger caliper piston means more force applied
>>28954338>I mean the parkign brake works fine and it is the rear drumsPerhaps, but that's a separate system to apply the rear brakes via cables. I'm suspicious because most old cars I've had over the years have had problems with the hydraulics to the rear brakes. Mostly due to internal corrosion of the line going to the rear clogging it up but there were a couple that had the brake warning light shuttle valve in position to close off the rear brakes and stuck there. Presumably they'd had a pressure loss for some reason but never re-centered the valve after. One they unplugged the connector for the light and the other the light had burned out.
>>28954642i remember reading somewhere that most people didn't even realise their rears weren't even working because the fronts do most of the braking anyway.
>>28952362>spends $250,000 on his boomermobile>doesn't even properly insure it
>>28954645Yep. Usually the first clue most have is when they start going through front brakes like popcorn.
>>28954677>didn't wear seatbelts properly>didn't properly insure it>didn't bother installing a handbrake>didn't have a clutch>didn't call off the interview>didn't tell his passenger his death trap was malfunctioning>didn't aim for the empty side of the road>didn't give a fuck about the lady he hitJust boomer things.
>>28954691Really crazy how he never thought to turn the ignition off. Dude is a dickbag and deserves everything that happened to him.
>>28953001Lol, larger disks/drums in relation to the wheel do absolutely enhance the braking force as they do have more leverage. That's the basic principle behind "torque".
>>28954677lmao
>>289549006 pot caliper has more force than a 30 inch rotor>see I told you it matters!!!14" drums will lock up tires (front) without power brakes. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.You have no experience and think that "bigger is better!!" when manufacturers already ran the numbers and found that threshold where anything beyond doesn't actually gain anything of importance.Ill do this all night, please respond.
>>28947679I kinda want to make a collage of all the memes we've made of them and mail it to those guys.
>>28947689Wilwood brakes ship with BP10.It's a street pad will very low friction and heat tolerance.
>>28956155Bot that anon, but it's all about how much the tire can grip.Even smaller brakes have enough bite to lock up tires.
>>28954702>Really crazy how he never thought to turn the ignition off.Since his first instinct was to put it in Park, switching it off after would have had no effect. I wonder though if it would have lessened the impact if he'd switched off first. The trans pump would be turning as long as the converter stayed coupled and the trans would have stayed engaged so there should have been some drag induced by a dead engine at least until the speed dropped enough for the converter to decouple, at which point the trans would lose hydraulic pressure and the trans would then be in what amounted to Neutral.
>>28952224Kek that's some schizophrenic ass shit, I've been in a desperate hurry to reach a relative who was having a fucking seizure and I would try and exit the freeway that is very clearly blocked off, its a Saturday and its not a desperate thing, he cannot be driving if he cant act right
>>28958679>would tryWouldnt**Excuse me
>>28958667>enough for the converter to decouple,That's not how converters work.Most vehicles have about a 1400 rpm stall speed converter.Meaning that with the brakes locked and in gear you cant rev past about 1400.That works both ways.With the engine off it creates massive drag on the transmission while its in gear.You can bump start an automatic at about 20mph btw.
>>28958771Yeah but that's with the throttle openClose it and the engine won't have enough AF mixture even with a mechanical pump
>>28958813What the fuck are you trying to say?Im guessing youre a euro thats never driven an automatic.
>>28958813What part of his throttle was stuck idling at 2200rpm on a 1300hp car and he was holding his brakes down to keep the car under the speed limit do you not understand?
>>28947689holy shit look at the grooves in that rotor>>28947907holy shit my sides
>>28947679Thank god this genius found a safety minivan full of children to cushion the blow of his own stupidity. Then they're straight on the internet to let everyone know the car will be ok.
>B-baka!!!
>>28960008>Then they're straight on the internet to let everyone know the car will be ok.Sounds like a cope since the retard only had liability insurance and nothing else.
>>28960015>ai slop, ghibli jeet brown filter still onsovlless
>>28960053>the car will be ok.It will be cut apart and anything of value transfered to a new chassis.It has to be stripped to repair anyways. The only reason to repair the original is if the owner is some retard that just HAS to have this thing rebuilt.Oh wait....
>>28947679does anyone have a link to the youtube ytp edit with the hard cuts, shit makes me piss myself laughing
>>28960409https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkVkiR10GYsI got you bro, enjoy.
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>>28947907severely underrated
>>28960053Let's hope so, what an absolute fucking cretin
>OH SHI-
>>28961320kek that channel still uses that poor bastard's face on the intro collage of their videos
>>28960957lmao based, thank you
>>28947907We peaked
This meme is so overdone and fucking stupid that I just get annoyed when I see it spammed here but man, its SO fucking funny lmfao >>28960957
>>28947907S-tier meme. I've saved it. Here's a (You) for your troubles good sir
>>28947907FINE WORK ANON
>>28947679>someone took down the funny edit of this video
>>28964440you mean this one? >>28960957
