Why do people hate these cars so much again? I have daily'd mine since 2019, and literally never had any engine problems whatsoever. They are great.
Nobody here actually hates them(outside of the rotard memes). It's the retards every other month like clockwork that come to post "haay guise is dis gud car? I saw it cheap on FB marketplace they can't be THAT bad can they?" when they've never even owned or taken apart a lawn mower
"bad" just means not for wrenchlets and/or the low iq.
>>28952294What kind of mpg do you get? Is it as bad as they say?
>>28952298I mean, most of owning this car has been like knowing how to prevent it from failing, not really any of it has been needing to do a bunch of labor. I get what you mean though, the car may explode if you don't gut the cat, or if the cooling system is running slightly too hot youll warp coolant sealts etc.>>28952299trvke...>>28952303depends? I dont put many miles on him. With a new coils and plugs I feel like it gets close to 30mpg highway, but 90% of the time its close to 20mpg. I also premix
Truck mpg with slightly more power than a civic si (if the engine is running properly). They required premixing and specific knowledge of how the engine needs to be treated to not need an engine rebuild after 60k. The people that bought these drove them like a normal car and they all have ruined engines. Then when you rebuild the engine you have to rev the piss out of it to keep it in shape so you end up getting 15mpg.
I hear they had a fantastic suspension setup and ride
the problem with them when they came out was they were fucking UGLEH
>>28952429Wouldn't the appeal be the chasis? They make very comparable track times to Honda s2000s which are 5x their prices. They do not require some esoteric knowledge I am on the original engine at 112k miles on a shoestring budget. You also don't have to rev the piss out of it, you rev the engine to redline like once or twice a day and thats it. I don't think you are giving the car a very fare shake and people like you are exactly who I talk about when I think of why this car is hated.>>28952461Ride is okay, suspension is goated though>>28952514Possibly yeah, but I really like how they look now that they have aged. They look almost like a mid 00's concept car.
My only memory of an rx8 is being at the hospital for a work injury and seeing two mexican chicks in a blue one with a bad wheel bearing pull up as I was walking in.
>>28952570>brushes off all problems with the renesis because anecdotal evidence>"I don't think you are giving the car a very fare shake"lol okay, please explain why 112k on an original engine is supposed to be impressive
>>28952645>lol okay, please explain why 112k on an original engine is supposed to be impressiveIt's basically a 2 stroke race engine, under normid use it should last only 30-60k like a BMW or Mercedes, that's why 112 is expensive. Wrenchlet.
Impressive*
>>28952648>it has a race car engine, bro>gets passed by a v6 camry
>>28952294It doesn't make sense as a car. They gave it rear doors and back seats to be more practical than an RX-7, but the engine prevents it from being practical. Then, because of the rear doors, it doesn't really fit the weekend toy role either.They should've done one of two things:A. Keep it a 2 door, like the RX-7B. Keep it a 4 door, but give it a piston engine, either the Ford 3.7 V6 they had in 6 and CX-9, or the Mazdaspeed 2.3 turbo and put the Wankel as an option in the Miata.
>>28952294They don't, well unless you consort with brainlets. I don't
These are so rare now. I saw one parked a week ago and did a double take
>>28952294there are people who daily dodge neons and chrysler cloud cars with no issues. I wonder why people hate those or say they're bad. think about it and you'll have your answer.
They're like $7-10k nowadays. The cheap RX8 period passed anything under $7k is horribly clapped or rusted out or auto. Honestly the real problem is they're fighting with the NC1 in the price segment. You can find a NC1 for the same money and its a lot simpler/cheaper to fix while being marginally slower (mid 14s in the 1/4 for the RX8 vs low 15s for the NC) >>28952429 is mostly right. That and 00s Mazda build quality sucks. Transmissions, Clutch/Brake Pedals, and Rear Diffs can all die. Rotary heat kills stuff like cats and ignitions regularly. I paid $9500 for this 45k mile 2004 350Z and missed out on a $6500 88k mile 2001 MR2 Spyder posted 3 days later. The existence of the 370Z keeps 350Z prices down hard.>>28952570You can get that chassis in the NC Miata. NC2/3s are $10k starting going up to $16-20k (lmao)
>>28952658v6 camry is not keeping up with the Rx-8 in a corner and its boring. Try the track before you spew the same garbage over and over online you teenage larper.
>>28952821rx8 owners never hit the track cause their shit ends up exploding if they do.
>>28952294I've heard multiple RX8 owners say the same thing after owning it for a short time.Soon after their shitty rotary explodes.If you can rebuild a rotary, it's not a problem.If not, good luck.
>>28952294>I have daily'd mine since 2019>I dont put many miles on him
>>28952645you didn't cite any real, actual problems. you just said there were, and pointed out that no, in fact these engines are not some overly complicated mess. The cat can get clogged. The ignition coils and plugs wear out quickly and are very important. The car runs hot stock and you need to keep it cool. That is literally it. If you don't seriously run over 230-240 degrees F for a long period of time, you wont break a coolant seal and have these problems. You just are regurgitating the opinion of some retard had about this car.>>28952686the car out corners literally anything with 2 or 4 doors, including Rx7s. I dont see why the rear suicide doors make any problem, the car having 2+2 rear seating is literally what rx7s could and often did come with.>>28952755>Car aimed at enthusiatsvs>Car equivalent to cafeteria slop>>28952820I bought my rx8 at 32k miles in manual in 2019. For 4500$ off some boomer retard who had it as his "weekend car" in Idaho. Talked him down by pretending to love John McCain.>>28952867I mean even if this were true, aren't there other enthusiasts cars you need to pull the engines for on a far more consistent basis? Like any EJ subaru USDM basically requires it, and they get no flack for it.
>>28952873Does that like invalidate my experience though? It isn't as if any of you all have owned the car, and there probably are a bunch of retards that bought these and didn't know what they were doing. Just because I only put 8-10k miles a year on my car doesn't just make what I have to say weaker or invalid.
>>28952858What exactly explodes?
>>28952294I can't speak for everyone, and I wouldn't even say I hate rx8s, but I think they're pretty ugly and the engine is really limited for a rotary. The 6 port 13b-Resenis makes the most hp/L out of any NA production engine until like 2022, but they don't really respond well to turbocharging, so you're still stuck with like 185hp. I've heard you can NA mod them to make like 230hp, but even then, it's just underwhelming. I think that's a great number for the rx8, but nobody's swapping 13b renesis engines. And that's a problem since rx8s are so ugly. Would've been a sick car without rear doors tho. Also the handling, like you've said, is amazing. Really well done by Mazda, and helps that it's so light.I think the people who hate these cars for things like the reliability just don't care about well engineered things, only numbers on a sheet or commuter bullshit like reliability. Even the reliability argument is ridiculous cause these engines are so easy to pull and rebuild. You can still get a new engine housing from Mazda! Even for the old 13bs from the 70s! Thats insane!
>>28953063That's a lot of words, too bad I'm not reading them. .t race against FC and FD RX7s
>>2895306332k miles is insanely low and $4500 even I would've taken that over anything else on the market. I was looking for the last 2 months and all the RX8s I found were clapped if they werent close to $10k. And for that much I'd rather look for a NC Miata. <$10k RWD Sports Car amounts to DE 350Z, NB2/NC1 MX5, and ZZW30 MR2. C4 Vette too old, RX8 hard to find/kinda unreliable imo, S197 3v too big/boaty/sloppy feeling (drove one right before the Z after a lifetime of Japanese cars), and I guess E90 328i/E82 128i but then you're dealing with used BMW nickel/diming. EJ Subaru values are in the toilet fyi. I picked up the 2016 STi in the pic for $16k with a bad steering rack, 76k miles, got a good used RA shortblock right before I bought it. I'm gonna try to sell for $20k now that I replaced the steering rack and AC. Not like 10 years ago, the secret is out and most people realize those cars blow up if you look at them funny and it'll cost you $5-10k to get it back on the road. Before you had plausible deniability from everyone blaming the "owners"
>>28953119wdym 185hp? They were rated 238hp iirc. Engine isnt tunable but rx7 fd engines swap pretty much directly in so long as they are OBD2. I dont get why the argument that its door count means anything desu. They aren't like full doors either its just a miata chassis.
>>28953063>the car having 2+2 rear seating is literally what rx7s could and often did come with.Nope, only some editions in Japanese market had rear seats, most of them were 2 seaters with rear storage bins, like all NA and Euro market ones
>>28952821>Try the trackAlready did, multiple times. In cars that don't need to be tard wrangled in order to not die, for no benefit.
>>28953071the engine? did you know mazda faced a lawsuit over it?
>>28953063the rx8 is just cafeteria slop aimed at enthusiast. it's like "Kidz Cuisine". it's still garbage.
>>28953437Not everything has to be good to be loved.
>>28953437wrenchlet
>>28953345>Already did, multiple times.doubt
>>28953071Engine oil injection system is fucked up and ruins the engine. Almost everyone that has one that still drives runs premix like it's a damn two-stroke. Notice that all the kvetching itt is two autists arguing about the degree of autism needed to have one live, not whether autism is needed or not.
>>28953484>get rid of oil injection system that sprays oil into the intake charge to lube seals>force yourself to start premixing the oilbased retarded as fuck wrenchlet
>>28953490Imagine letting dirty engine oil dribble into the housings. Disgusting. Premix is cleaner and covers more surface area inside the housings its also always 100% guaranteed to work.
>>28953483Doubt all you want then
>>28953345Yeah sure dude>>28953436Woah guys... there was a lawsuit... in a country where you can file civil suit for anything and win with enough money. This certainly means anything about the quality of this cars engine and wasn't just some rich baby boomers who were BTFO their RX8 became a paperweight after not changing its oil. >>28953484this is retarded and not necessary at all, the results are inconclusive last I heard on OMP Deletes and SOHN Adaptors had actual impacts. The original works fine, and you can premix it if you want. IIRC this occurred in cars running synthetic oil.
