>manual>naturally aspirated>no electronics>350-440 hp depending on the engine option>has backseats>900 lbs lighter than ViperDid Bongs make better Viper than Dodge?
>>29023320it never won any races and has a mid tier straight six vs the viper having the best V10 ever made, so no. the Viper was meant to fill the shoes of the Shelby Cobra (and it ended up being better in every way) whereas TVR is like a nicer alternative to a kit car.
>>29023336The Viper V10 is nice, but it sounds like your bog standard lumpy American V8.I was expecting it to shriek like a banshee, but it just goes glug glug glug like a big block chevy
>>29023344maybe at idle, there's some resemblance. but otherwise, when they both rev, completely different.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOCrLHSY0eUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWX2JJdrf2E
>>29023336>best V10 ever madeIt's a shitrod 360 with two extra cylinders
>>29023360it also almost nuked european endurance racing. no other V10 was ever as dominant as that one.
>>29023320>Did Bongs make better Viper than Dodge?No. It has half the torque and looks like a failed balloon animal. The Viper looks mean and has cache around the world. They somehow also managed to have worse build quality than every US automaker since the 1970s. The engineering on them was typical british shit: stuff with great ambition but built by a guy named Nigel in a shed who either wanted to quickly finish ahead of tea time or slightly drunk after a night at the pub. That all said, I would absolutely love a Cerbera, speed6, Tuscan, Sargaris, Giffith (its never going to be made) any of the really cool TVR's. The Speed12 is a myth. Unfortunately they're "enthusiast" cars with an enthusiast tax similar to clapped out Lotus Elises and Espirits now. Theres a visibly poorly repaired and obvious minor damaged Elise with like 60,000 miles and a salvage title, dude still wants $28,000 for it. Everyone I know thats either owned one or driven one longer than an hour says its a track day toy only and is nearly unusable to drive around town because its tiny and so spartan inside you just never enjoy driving it casually. If they were cheap enough to essentially be a rolling kit car, they could be popular again.
>>29023360pushrod schizo is that you?
>>29023372>looks like a failed balloon animal.LMAO
>>29023320It looks MUCH better with the pre-facelift headlights. Spider eyes only work on TVRs actually designed for spider eyes.
>>29023407I will ensure you cannot unsee the shapes between them.
>>29023336>best V10 ever madeI would say it's the best in terms of making a billion hp after tuning on a par with Huracan but I would say this one is the best stock cause it just sounds so goodhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LP6Jk0YBslI&pp=ygUPbGV4dXMgbGZhIHNvdW5k
>>29023413shit meme car with no real use. not at all comparable to the dominance of the viper even stock.
no. there’s only 1 car that drives like a viper and that’s the car the viper was engineered after
The back seats are only there to reduce insurance rates or something. It's common. Literally useless back seats
>>29023420No, not really. Cobra is a skittish, angry critter with way too much power for how much grip it has at all speeds. Viper is a deathtrap at low speeds too, but when it gets into groove it's best characterized by "relentless pull". Effortlessly fast.
>>29023435>viper is a death trap at low speeds it’s not it’s very chill to drive actuallyt. drove one
>>29023336>best V10 ever made>anon thinks the best v10 is a 90° shitrodLol lel lmao
>>29023427Kinda. Cerbera is notoriously very friendly to tall drivers because having those back seats allows the front to move back very far, but that also means that with a shorter driver the back seat is actually functional.
>>29023427>The back seats are only there to reduce insurance rates or something.You think insurance companies with thousands of underwriters are fooled into thinking a preposterous sports car with an unusable seat in the rear gives cheaper rates? just /o/ things...
>>29023435Lol it's so easy to tell who hasn't driven one amongst you larpers.
>>29023440what races did the useless turd you posted ever dominate? learn some history, little nigglet.
>>29023445Yes because then the car is classified as a coupe. You think this is designed for people to sit in?
>>29023320Did it decimate the yurocuck "competition" in every race it entered to the point it got saddled with multiple hundreds of pounds of ballast and got two of its cylinders disabled, and STILL won?No?Then bongs did not make a better Viper than Dodge.
>>29023344>sounds like a chevy How many times were you dropped on your head, or were you born this retarded?
>>29023445>He doesn't know car classifications matter in car insuranceCan't tell if I want to post brown hands or laughing girls.
>>29023320Nice Ford Thunderbird from the thumb
>>29023463>>29023475TIL europe has arcane rules for classifications. USA (only place that matters) doesn't because its moronic to base pricing based on how many seatbelts it has. Why not make the rear seat 4 and call your porsche a van?
>>29023320I always thought the tuscan was more spiritually a viper
>>29023409That's debatable
>>29023413Is that the best V10 or the best exhaust design?
>>29023413I never liked the way that thing sounded, way too overrated
>>29023320If I'm going to have a low/limited production British car to compare to the Viper, it's not going to be a TVR.(image related)
>>29023517I don't understand the low fucking effort flashlight headlights they put on these kind of cars
>>29023320The only thing TVRs really have in common with the Viper is their propensity to kill their drivers.
>>29023553Yeah just buy £2M car instead of a £20k one easy decision.
>>29023565it's an intentional euro-rice style the later ones had flush coversThe early ones match the overall styling of the car better
>>29023565Headlights are unironically the most difficult and expensive thing to get homologated. Unless you're a billion dollar OEM you just make off the shelf work. Also it fits the aesthetic.
>>29023372>or slightly drunk after a night at the pub.lunch.
>>29023320didnt they only make like a few street legal ones and they were really hard to drive?
>>29023454https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexus_LFA#Motorsport>tl;drpic related
I will take a Tuscan instead thanks :)
>>29024823You're probably thinking of the Speed Twelve. They were a bit silly.
>>29025311yep i was. sorry
>>29023320Yes, but not from TVRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Fighter_(automobile)
>>29023320I'm with you on this.You make a compelling argument.These cars will be "contraband" soon, under some bullshit Safety or Emissions pretext.
>>29023409>Spider eyes only work on TVRs actually designed for spider eyes.Agreed.I still have nitemares of these things comin up on me in Gran Turismo 2.
>>29025314genuinely never heard of anyone discuss a Bristol irl or on TV or anything i don't think
>>29025363The only people who talk about them are those obsessed with generational wealth lifestyle products, usually implying that the people who don't like them are not the "right sort".
>>29025380i just checked online and even the British Motor Museum doesn't seem to have one, they really must be that exclusive to the upper classes.
>>29025363Bristol is rather more exclusive than the likes of Ferrari. If Ferrari like you then they'll sell you one from the production run, if Bristol like you then they'll make you a car.
>>29025380>The only people who talk about them areWrong retard.Just the engines alone were novel in their design (that means unique, retard)> "Basically, we designed the engine as a race engine. It was my idea at the time that if we wanted to expand, we ought to make something that we could sell to other people. We've ended up with a 75-degree V8 with a flat-plane crank. The bottom-half of the engine to the heads is exactly as you would see in current Formula One engines."[1]>The AJP8 has one of the highest specific outputs of any naturally aspirated V8 in the automotive world at 83.3 hp/litre for the 4.2 and 93.3 hp/litre for the 4.5. Later models of the 4.5 litre engine had the 'Red Rose' option, which increased output to 440 hp (328 kW) 97.7 hp/litre when run with super-unleaded (high octane) petrol. An unmarked button on the dashboard altered the engine mapping.>The engine is also unusually compact for a V8. According to TVR, the total weight of the finished engine is 121 kg (267 lb).
>>29025478I think he was talking about the Bristol.
>>29025485>the BristolAhh..My bad.
>>29025493TVR engines are still based though.
>>29023440>auto only v10 during a time where nearly every v10 sold was manualsoulless nipslop
>>29026239>make a 5 liter engine and give it no torque>build a carbon fibre tub and make it heavy as shitSuch a waste
>>29023320Depends on how often you want to keep fixing it.
>>29023336>it never won any racesIt won in 2000 British GT at Spa.
>>29023320>abysmal quality>somehow even worse handling than a viper>slower>betternah the viper was shit but TVRs had serious engine issues.
>>29025478Aren't all buttons on TVRs unmarked
>>29026540>>slowerIt's not
You might win a race against an equally irrelevant 20yr old + viper, but that's only if it starts and your engine doesn't fail. TVRs have a horrible reputation for quality, they're definitely worse than burgertrash.
>>29026693it is on a track which is why it couldn't win races.
>>29023488>Why not make the rear seat 4 and call your porsche a van?we do that in EU, lol
