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Previous /o/dbt/: >>29092608
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Sportsbike for fat guy? Looking to get into riding, but adv looks arse. Are there some friendly sports bikes that are fit for a large boi (260ish pounds)?
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>>29094833
Dead white man's thread format you shameless faggot jeet
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>>29094833
Man what the fuck is /o/dbt lol kill yourself you desperate freak
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>>29094840
Sport tourer, basically a big sports bike with a more relaxed and upright position
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>>29094840
You are not that heavy, just get a CB500R for your first bike. For the next bike you can get a busa, a proper fatboi bike.
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>>29094852
Something like this? It does have that adv look I'm not a fan of, but it isn't heavy so physically I could manage it maybe.

>>29094853
Now that's a pipeline to look forward to. I love busas, they are proper voluptuous girls.
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>>29094861
I meant for example the 2020 Tracer 7
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>>29094864
This is not a sports tourer no matter what some may say. It's a typical crossover bike like Vstrom, Versys, Tiger, S1000XR etc.

But they are also great for hauling your huge ass around, even better than actual sportstourer.
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>>29094867
Mein gott, are you saying it's an SUV of bikes?
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>>29094861
>>29094864
Nah that's just an adv. Suzuki doesn't have a sport tourer section on their site but stuff like the S1000GT (GX is you're also tall), Kawasaki has a section and has bikes like the Ninja 1100SX and also the H2 SX. The Z14R falls under their super sport category, I've always assumed they were more tourers because they're so big, same goes for the busa.
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>>29094878
I see. These are a bit too heavy and powerful for me, but I see what you mean now.
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>>29094878
what you on about.
Hayabusa is a sport tourer. comfy as fuck

the old bird got a shiny wax coat today and is ready for winter.
she needs a new 2nd / 6th gear, getting annoying when it jumps out. gonna be a winter project disassembling the engine and transmission.
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>>29094880
how is it comfy, looks like supersport ergos
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>>29094840
i can always recommend a VFR i like the gen4 rc36-2 for caburators , gen5 rc46 fuel injection or the gen8 rc79 2015

best combination of sport touring, engineering and i fucking love the seat positioning.
best used Hondas you can buy and astoundingly cheap for what you get.

>pic related
>rare naked pussy on legendary VFR
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>>29094888
don't be a manlet i guess?
comfy but the VFR is a little bit more comfy. so you hav the same thingy pic for a vfr?
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>>29094892
Thanks for the hint, these look nice and all, but I don't want something so powerful with over 100hp. I'm quite new, never owned my own bike before.
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>>29094894
If you are not a manlet your knees will be bent quite heavily it would seem like. I don't know, I've seen some huge Amerilards on it so maybe it's different in real life.
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>>29094895
Keep the VFR under 7k rpm, that's when VTEC kicks in and you basically get a 20ps boost. The RC79 is extremely good manored and forgiving on low rpm. the 800cc and V4 gives enough torque. the TC is agressiv and will not allow you to do wheelies and shit.

depends on your skill, if you had an european A motorcycle license course a 2015+ VFR with TC and ABS is a reasonable bike to get.

>>29094896
i am 190cm (6'3?) yeah the knees are slightly high but i like it. but i also hate adv seating positions.

>>29094892
>>29094880
Got the Busa and the VFR. Funny the VFR is more relaxed at the back, the busa more relaxed for knees
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>>29094843
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>>29094840
I don't think it matters. They are all fast and fun. I am 18st (x14lb) so not far behind you. Unless you are chasing really marginal racing performance it won't make the blindest bit of difference. Main thing is your riding comfort for whatever you want to do.
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I rode my motorcycle here, so it’s motorcycle related content
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>>29094929
I was thinking like suspension wise and not too folded over so that my huge beer belly gets in the way. I don't want to ride supersports, just something that looks pretty, but is still comfortable for my Peter Griffin build and doesn't max out on the suspension when I hit the smallest pothole.
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>>29095003
planes are sky bikes, always welcome.
bmw started with literally plane engines in there bikes
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>>29095003
Powered by a Ranger APU Model V-32, a transverse air cooled v-twin. Until you start the big ones.
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>>29095003
I rode my motorcycle to buy the beer I'm guzzling while watching this show, so its motorcycle content.
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Hello /dbt/ just built an app for TPMS with a teeny bit of reverse engineering. The app from the manufacturer phones home, mine doesn't. Dubs decide if I put the tpms on my baikus. I was thinking if I should support android-auto and stuff. Also, why has no one reverse engineered android-auto? I would've expected microg guys to have done it in the age of claude-code and codex-cli. Also, I didn't build it ofc, its completely claude code.
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>>29095036
trips and you stuff it in your ass
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>>29095039
Yay! You failed.
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>>29095052
You could still stuff it up your ass to spite him
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>>29094833
fookin' love blighty, me
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>>29095036
Imagine needing an app for tpms lmao
I just use this $20 upgrade from Amazon
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>>29094840
fatties are built for croozers there's even one called the fat boy
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>KLR wrenchlet here
>Get time this morning to hit the rear axle with the biggest wrench I can find
>Won't budge
>Rubber mallet time
>Won't budge
>Take every fastener off the back end, block the tire so no strain on axle, try wrench again
>won't budge
>Hammer
>won't budge
shid
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>>29095077
That axle is capital F fucked and idk how that even happened
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>>29095072
They say that chineesium sensors work about 6 months.
Care to share your experience?
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>>29095077
So, you're the guy struggling with chain tension? The axle won't move back and forth to adjust the tension, or it won't even come out? The tensioner bolts spin just fine?
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>>29095073
Yeah I've heard that, but I don't like them as much as sportsbikes. And they are heavy.
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Can you recommend gloves with solid palm sliders and EU safety rating?
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>>29095077
Like is the rear axle lugnut even renoved at this point?
Is it on a center stand or something with no weight?
Once you get the lugnut loosened to sping by hand, then you break the tension on axle sliders, it should just smoothly go through
If the nut wont break on the axle you may need to cut it and get a new one and new axle
But if youre doing this on the ground ans its not elevated for you to relieve gravity under the tire and use youe leg or something to prop it up further; that might be the issue too

Last time you posted a photo it looked like your bike was on the ground or centerstand
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Here you go, chink V4 bobber for 12k
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>>29095036
looks neat anon! I like diy stuff.

I made my own telemetry for race track
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>>29095140
Looks like a fatbob
>>29095141
Woah
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>>29095003
72 total cylinder making 2400 horsepower the sign said
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>>29095140
If you would buy this you’re not ensouled
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>>29094833
Ok /o/ I need your help.
Brand new Kawasaki Ninja 650 or
2007 Triumph Sprint ST for less than half the price. Sprint has less than 20000 miles.
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>>29095036
Motorcycles shouldn't have technology
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>>29095180
Why either?
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>>29095180
None of that. Why would you even want a 180° crankshaft piss twin "sport" bike? Are you retarded?
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>>29095180
Aged bikes are aged, becareful buying one, but I would take it over the 650.
If you cant work on old bikes avoid them.
I'd take a ZX6R over a 650 though.
Make sure it has its maintenance done.
>>29095077
Something is tensioning the axle.
Look at the swing arm and check the tension of other bolts nearby.
Sometimes you need to hit the surrounding area with a rubber mallet.
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Nobike nocar update
Stealership wanted $1100 to diagnose and fix a shifter bushing
I drove there and fixed it in 10 minutes with the part which was $18. They said the part was $12, fair. They said the lavoe was the rest. I just removed a piece of plastic to get in there and just put it on, no tools
What the fuck
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>>29095228
*labor was the rest
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>>29095228
Yeah that's how they make money. That big shiny building isn't staying open by charging you 50 bucks for a repair the drug addict that never went to college they hired can do in 5 minutes.
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I put a two inch scratch on a pannier's bottom matte plastic on a rental bike, had to pay for a full pannier replacement, change of the lock and labor, altogether 450 euros. Asked them to give me at least the old pannier, they said I'm not allowed to take it.

Never touching Kawasaki jew bikes ever again in my life.
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>>29095234
Lmao you're that fag that was arguing with me over why bike rentals are so expensive, aren't you?
>because damage is practically guaranteed
>b-but muh insurance will cover everything
Kek
You dropped that mfer didn't you?
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>>29095233
I only took it there because I was hoping a recall would fix it. And because my phone was dead and I couldnt find a fucking charger that worked so I didnt want to troubleshoot it since I dont know shit about cars

This is absolutely criminal, they must be destroying people's lives all day long
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>>29095236
No?
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>>29095239
Why is that a question?
No you're not that guy or no you didn't drop it?
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>>29095236
>damage is guaranteed
>he doesnt even get the old acratched one he was forced to replace
So prove the scratch and the money went into order a new one
Rather than they just fleeced him for replacement and the scratch has always been there to double their profits off guys they fleece everytime someone rents THAT baik
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>>29095240
None of that. I scratched it on a corner stone in a parking lot.
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>>29095190
I've been riding for 2 months, looking for intermediate bike for less than 8k.

>>29095197
I've heard only good things about the Sprint, they're just old now. I've always wanted a ninja but something's telling me to get the Sprint.
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>>29095251
>been riding for 2 months, looking for intermediate bike
>1000cc 160mph
That's a yikes from me dawg
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>>29095251
>been riding 2 months
>already want to buy a faster bike
>right at the end of the season so you’ll basically be a brand new rider next spring when you get on it
You’re gonna yeet yourself into a gorge retard, stick with your beginner bike a couple years
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>>29095109
Tensioner bolts spin, the axle does not adjust with the tensioner (it's stuck, big time) and now come to find out the axle isn't coming out
>>29095133
Lug is out, brake is off, nothing. It's on a paddock stand centered on the swingarm. Main lug does not spin when wrench applied and isn't moving when happen applied.
>>29095197
Got it. Time to start bashing
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>>29095180
neither, those are both ass. just get an r6 or cbr
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>>29095263
Smack the wheel a few times and take the chain off, it should still slide around inside the mounting spots
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>>29095269
Got it
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>>29095276
Also put your leg or lift the rear wheel slightly to take the bind oout of the axle, if there is one, while its still on the stand
I want to emphasize that it should just slide right through, i only ever had a friction weld inside the axle lugnut cause what youre experiencing, asides from that i doubt the axle is actually bent, but inspect the slider mounts and any spacers if you do get it out
New axles like 70 bucks i think, probably cheaper for a klr

You may lack the neccessary tool for the job too, i forget what theyre called but i have one that expands out as you turn it and bites on the inside of whatever youre fitting it into; this allows to rotate the axle and jiggle it while pulling and helps

Go ahead and blast wd40 in there to help, but it still should have grease so idk wtf habben
Just wipe it off and regrease properly once youre done

If all else fails, record a video of the suffering experience and ill add it to the ShoomStalker archives
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Is it based?
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>>29095234
I would have chimped out hard.
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>>29095281
Rear wheel is on blocks right now, there should be no bind.

I'll make a vid if no progress tomorrow
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>>29095241
>>29095234
yeah Anon I would start checking facebook and ebay in your area to see if Marketplace suddenly has a used Pannier with that same scratch on it for 450 Euros. Sounds like you just became a mark.
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>>29095140
Post service intervals.
Ask me the questions, why is my valve checks measured in hours?
If you going to make something with frequent intervals make sure it can serviced easily.
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>>29095293
That's fine, we learn the most from our mistakes. I learned that a Kawasucky does not want me to return to their brand and I kinda had a feeling about them being the most trashy japanese manufacturers of all four before I even went for this.
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>>29095180
Don’t buy the new Ninja 650, buy the triumph tribble or buy a ninja that has the right number of cylinders, mate.
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>>29095296
I dont want to say it but
/dbt/ is a proud honder and sometimes suzuker thread for a reason
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>>29095262
Already at 1000 miles, I ride in all weather conditions and at night except snow. I need a bike that is better in the wind and has good passing speed on the highway.
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>>29095296
Kawasaki corporation was the one renting to you?
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>>29095284
Manual? Based
>new phone no pictures of my bike on it
すみません
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>>29095351
WAOW 1000 miles in two months, you’re practically Rossi. You’re right, buy the Peter, you need it.
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>>29095374
Their official dealership, yes.
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How are these continental tires, 40/60 treadblock. Continental is a good brand, I thought.
Yes I am still worrying about a decision most people would have made in a day.
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>>29095351
its still to quick to upgrade. The 650 is a little tame, but even my Versys x300 was a lot of bike to handle.
I would only recommend it, if you're a big person 6'1+ over 180lb and you need to do highway.
You've barley scratched the limits of your bike with that much riding time.
What are you riding now?
And what kind of area are you in?
In the US my Versys screamed over 60mph, but it didn't hurt it. I left it in Greece, and I cant get over 35mph before I need to take a turn there.
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>>29095284
Decent bike, looks far better than the first series did, but has some of the features that make it unappealing
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>>29095384
Then you defiled the agreement and violated their baik, you must pay them in full and they were justified in fleecing you for the greater raimu
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>>29094833
Kys
>>29095413
Based
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>>29095413
Nah fuck this nigger jew company
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>>29095419
Wrenchlet
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>>29095234
They wouldn't get a dollar from me until I got that pannier, you're crazy.
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>>29095429
They don't have to ask you because you leave a deposit when you rent a vehicle anywhere around the world.
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>>29095419
>>29095413
he's right you know
I talk shit about Harley as a company but you know what they have never, ever done? Charged someone for anything less than totaling the bike on a Test Ride. That's why they have test rides and test bikes.

And I hate Harley
I think Harley is a way more jewish company than Kawasaki.
Why is Kawasaki out-jewing Harley all of the sudden?
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Had my valves adjusted after 15k miles, every single one was loose. Difference is night and day, runs much better now. Don't put off your valve adjustments guys
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seller listed this picture.
what the f is going on?
is there some moisture damage or why would they post this pic?
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>>29095443
It would be cheaper to remove the pannier and say you've lost it (kek), pay the same amount of money for new one and sell the old one with a scratch.

Never tell companies the truth, they always try to fuck you over so we should return the favor.
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>>29095443
The Harley company is very un Jewish
Harley DEALERS are by far the most Jewish dealers I have ever dealt with
But then the dealership SERVICE is very un Jewish
Unless it’s for parts, then it’s the most Jewish again

>>29095452
I think people are mostly retarded and do not think through what pictures they should post and why
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>>29095452
What model is it? it may have had a pillion cushion that has been deleted
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>>29095476
makes sense, there was also a photo with pillion cushion. thanks
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Why the fuck bike owners are selling their touring bikes without stock panniers? They just take them off, leave the mounts on the bike and sell it like that. 80% of all do that with their ADV and sport tourers. And then after you buy that used bike you also need to try and find panniers for that mount system. Why?
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>>29095522
A lot of people replace them with aftermarket panniers they like, so they sell the stock ones immediately
I’ve done with bc I like my givi panniers so much
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>>29094833
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>>29095284
>>29095396
thats why u got the S version.
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Maybe I won't bother getting my bike going again. It's already in the 40s in the mornings and by next year I'll be able to park on site instead of shuttling which completely negates the benefit of a motorcycle anyways
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>>29095562
Sounds like you don’t care much for riding, so you probably should sell it
I’ll take it off your hands and ethically dispose is it, for a reasonable fee, of course
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>>29095446
Loose valves are happy valves
Unless theyre way too lose then thats bad
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>>29095446
Don't valves get tighter as they wear?
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I wish I were a bit stronger and a bit more stoic, it hurts anons.
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>>29095392
Excellent tyres, I haven't owned these so I can't give honest feedback, but /dbt/ approved tyres.
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>>29095181
That's why it's on my phone. But I shouldn't say that owning a bimmer.
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>>29095141
You are super cool senpai.
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Remember the ZX7R?
Man those were peak.
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>>29095709
You could still buy a GSXR 750 anon.
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>>29095711
Had one.
It's just not the same. The gixxer 750 is fantastic.
But it's just not the same.
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Pushed my luck today. I took a small cc motorbike (C70) on the highway accidentally, in the rain, at night. The top speed was 40 and I had no right mirror. This is the only thing making me feel alive and I want to learn and enjoy it but I shouldn't get too retarded. It was fun as hell though. My only issues are that the suspension feels too soft and the rear felt like it was slipping. I felt every hole. When I got up 30 on the normal road I felt it would be smarter not to try weaving around them, because I could feel some fishtailing.
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>>29095717
What's the C70? You that dude with the black yamaha moped?
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>>29095718
1981 Honda C70
A 70CC honda super cub
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>>29095717
>>29095723
Crazyman lmao. Was this an American highway or some 3rd world shit hole?
I don't even take my 500 on the highway anymore since the speed limit is about 120kph now.
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Do these things really sell enough to justify keeping them around.
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>>29095725
Yes. City highway on Saturday night. I meant to take a route that would've put me straight from my house but I didn't spot the exit. Glad the engine didn't sound or feel like it was dying. Maybe I should change my opinion on not doing a lifan engine swap.
What kind of 500? The CBR was actually going to be my first choice last year, I heard it was fine for the highways.
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>>29095730
>lifan engine swap.
I would no way on a classic Honda.
I still love my smaller CC bikes forcing me to take creative routes around the province.
>What kind of 500?
An Older air cooled Suzuki, not a modern 50hp+ bike.

I've begun to realize the (main) highway is simply not worth taking.
You get to experience so much more taking the old and forgotten highways.
If you like taking the highways or going fast that's fine, but probably not Super Cub territory.
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>>29095682
Are you the guy that got rejected from the arranged marriage?
Youre a man
Why get hung up over some woman, thats something women do, not you, youre a man
>YOURE THE MAN NOW DOG

>>29095725
>necoarc scale of 1-5
For me, its 2
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>>29095726
It's hilarious they still sell it but I'll be honest, I was window shopping one yesterday when I realized if my vt1100 blew up the fury is a sensible replacement, I was seriously window shopping that bike yesterday which I find funny you would ask that today
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>>29095733
>You get to experience so much more taking the old and forgotten highways.
In my city that means enjoying the sight of abandoned buildings and fentanyl zombies
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>>29095709
>>29095713
You know your true calling. Commit. Get the better one.
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>hit speeds in excess if 140mph
>can immediately go inside and go to sleep
Bikes are so great. I love bike
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>>29095663
Yes valves pretty much always get tighter over time so if anon tighten them and they weren't actually above the specified spec he is a fool. If you find a valve way over spec its likely its bent but there would be pretty obvious signs of that before checking them ofc,
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>>29095010
>not too folded over so that my huge beer belly gets in the way.
I guess but that is just getting used to it. Try sitting on one. Should be fine.

>and doesn't max out on the suspension when I hit the smallest pothole.
Nah. These things are built tough. Would be fine carrying you and a pillion over a pothole. A bike is built to withstand substantial forces. Has to be or it would fall to bits on the road.
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>>29095726
I've only seen one in the wild, and that was recent.

>>29095756
I'd like to get my hands on a ZRX1200R.
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>>29095060
Absolutely first-rate twisty roads everywhere and a varied landscape. Ideally it wouldn't rain all winter though.
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>>29095746
Danke senpai, yes, just got rejected yesterday, we were talking for like a month. Yeah, gotta be a man.
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>>29095748
Why not just skip the bullshit and get a Harley? Virtually all the Japanese cruisers are just asian Harley clones.
I love my Japanese bikes, but I'd much rather get a Harley when it comes to VTwins.
Imagine cruising down the highway on a pushrod VTwin customized to be your perfect bike.

I was running Gemini through some simulations, and this is what my perfect Harley looks like.
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>>29095756
>ZX9R
OH YEAHHH????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTX9SFTC3_Q
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Dang
https://youtu.be/djasOlp1kuY

>>29095784
That's the stuff.
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Is there a chink hard case panniers manufacturer similar to GIVI that makes them cheap?
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Hey an/o/ns, first time coming to this general.
Just wanted to show picrel; currently at the bikers' mass, in Fátima, for the blessing of the helmets.
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>>29095782
>gemini generated image
>he can't find the perfect harley from just google searching it
I think you just stumbled on the problem most Harley enthusiasts have been having with them since the 90s: They want to make the perfect VTwin customized to their perfect bike, Harley won't let them. Harley would rather go all-in on electric scoots and parallel twins, or charge $30K for bikes Suzuki makes for 10K. Harley are called boomermobiles for a reason: The only people who are really satisfied with their lineup are pushing 70 and just want the branding of Harley, not their bikes.
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went on a group ride that the Royal Enfield dealership organised
was fun, a bit slow paced
75% white guys age 50+
15% indians
10% other

I noticed the exhaust smoke really stank sometimes when near the back of the pack. All of the bikes there are 2015 or newer, so should be euro 4 or 5. Is Enfield pulling a Volkswagen or is there actually a point to emissions standards?
I don't remember smelling fumes on other group rides and enfield boomers are not usually the type to do cat deletes.
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>>29095879
Treating them like shit can also result in exhaust issues, and Indians aren't known for maintaining things.
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>>29095880
I could see that happening for carbie bikes but these would all be EFI. Change the oil, check the valves, can't be that hard to keep it smelling okay unless you're a retard and abuse the engine and fuck up the bores/rings right?
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>>29095770
Its time
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>>29095782
Speaking of japacrap; the honda fury seems to be literally the only factory chopper
Is there any other factory chopper?
If there was an aftermarket gastank that filled out its negative space at the front of the frame; it would be that much cooler
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>mfw f9 ryan calls 50% of DC pedos
Lmfao

What a legend
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>>29095687
>but /dbt/ approved tyres.
It's /o/dbt/ now btw
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I really hate the end of the season, so many cheap bikes on marketplace but I can't buy them since I'd need to sell mine to afford it.
But then I'd also be selling it in the off season too.
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>>29095900
I have never rolled my eyes so hard recently as I did at his electric bike tour video
>this flat bread is so important to the red indians
>our route was stopped by fire, is it too late for these green machines to save the planet
Brother shut the fuck up and tell me about the bike
Liberals are insufferable
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>>29095782
The fury was built in huge numbers right around the west coast chopper peak and then the market collapsed and never recovered. I can’t believe they are currently being manufactured

>>29095872
>harley would rather go all in on electric scoots and parallel twins
They spun off their electric brand
every motorcycle in most markets is a vtwin, one single cylinder made with hero
>30k for bikes Suzuki sells for 10k
Nightster starts at 10k, is a better cruiser than anything Suzuki will still sell you
Why does Harley cause so much asshurt that retards lie about the brand?

>>29095894
The next nearest is probably the Harley breakout, smallest tank of the softtails, raked out more, 21” front wheel
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>>29095945
Bannock is such bs too; natives never cultivated wheat or baked bread until europeans arrived
Idk, did they have cornmeal breads in the mexico areas or south america?

>>29095951
Breakouts arent all that much different from their other models, smaller gastanks also suck
I guess the only difference is the rake

Still, the fury is growing in interest because i saw a few king and queen seats for them, its just that damn negative space near the front of the frame which drives me nuts
Although id get rid of the stock exhaust, it also is ugly
They discontinued their sales in canada iirc, only burgera gettem
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>>29095077
Did you take out the cotter pin
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>>29096056
Took the pin out, got the nut off, got the brake caliper out of the way, I was able to get it to budge today. It was stuckstuck. I'll go out and try again in a bit.
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>>29096061
Does the other end spin?
Souldnt be anything actually holding it in place, the adjuster system won't keep it from being removed.
Try more hammer, oil, or heat.
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>>29096064
It doesn't spin easily, I even pulled the adjuster all the way back.
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Thinking of buying the cheapest/highest mileage FJR1300 I can find next season. Yae or nay?
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>>29095726
anon, its because they arent selling any of them that they are still for sale. its the same bike as 20 years ago. left over inventory
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>>29095284
no. the new ones are auto-only
the headlight looks like its from 2012
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>>29096072
Lots of penetrant and whack it while rotating it
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>>29095951
>Nightster starts at 10k, is a better cruiser than anything Suzuki will still sell you

lol hahahahaha
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HOLY FUCKING SHIT DO AMERIFATS BELIEVE THAT?
https://backyardrider.com/harley-nightster-975-problems/
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>>29095951
Now anon that's just not remotely true. At one time, the Sportster could have been had for $5000 OTD and it came with an Italian-made engine, indestructable parts, carbed, and was made exactly the same way for 40 years. This was like in ~2012 or so.
Even the harley boomers complain that harley effectively fucked its entry level market with the Nightster. Made in SEA, poor QC, inferior to the Sportster in a bunch of different ways and not parts compatible so there's no customization. The engine isn't even Italian anymore.

Funny enough, you know where that Italian V-Twin engine went after Harley stopped putting it in their bikes? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otl5KQBXVbE
All because people are just too brand loyal to a badge. They slept while their pockets were picked.
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>>29095784
The zx12r isn't nearly as good as the zx9r when it comes to cornering and handling.

They're dope, but you get a zx12r like a busa or blackbird. You get a zx9r to hang with (of the era) fireblades and gsxrs.
>>29095766
You'd be a lot happier with a zx9r if you like cornering.
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>>29095955
>cornmeal breads
lol no, they used human blood and it wasnt even real bread anyway
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The peak district never gets old
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Beautiful topbox
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>>29095955
A smaller gas tank is a major part of the custom and chopper scene looks

>>29096140
>first model year recall and otherwise minor problems
You are severely retarded. If you don’t like teething issues a 2021 used iron 1200 is also better than any cruiser Suzuki has ever made

>>29096150
I don’t know about internationally, but the sportster engine has always been made in Milwaukee, the air cooled, for the American market. We didn’t lose the air cooled sporty until 2021 and it’s scheduled to return pending exhaust changes.
According to my Harley model book sporster msrp has been over 5000 for forty years.
Nightster was made in the USA through 2025. It’s being made in SEA for a few years during factory expansion, scheduled return to Troy factory in 2028.
So very little of what you’ve said is remotely connected to reality.
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>>29096150
When is north america getting an all italian made evo spoRtster hard R edition, because the chinese love to Ridicule silly blackrock/vqnguard backed burgers who sell their everything to make the pronouns sporster instead
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>>29096324
I know its part of the scene, but its impractical as all shit when you want to larp as ez-rider and go places
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>>29096324
>>29096150
The guy in the video you posted has nothing correct. Starting with the fact that the evo engine only goes back to 86 and it experienced very very substantial changes during its run.
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how much malfunction would you tolerate before returning or exchanging your bike?
My BSA Scrambler rides wonderfully, as long as there's no ECU fuckery

>bought 24 days ago
>on second day it started stalling while holding the clutch
>bring it to dealer, they repair it, takes a week (over weekend) because they had to order something
>take it to dealer for first 1000 km service this past friday
>go for a short tour afterwards
>stop in the mountains to take some pictures, start up
>check engine light/ ECU MIL is permanently on, not flashing
>check manual, only mentions flashing MIL, says that this means something's wrong with the system. no advice or anything what to do next.
>stop, check if anythings leaking, any cable that I can see is loose, maybe overheated from riding it uphill for so long
>no reception, I'm in the mountains. 33 km until home
>what am I supposed to do
>start up, go slow downhill, listen for any abnormalities
>notice that nothing's different, drives like always
>arrive at home, do more research. OBD standards say non-flashing, steady ECU MIL means minor malfunction, probably just some unexpected readings. ECU should check through the next 2-3 start/stop cycles if error prevails
>go outside, start it up again, let it run for a minute, but need to go take a piss, turn it off again
>back outside, turn on again, doesn't start anymore, tf

1/2
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>>29096328
2/2
>try again, nothing. again. display resets, turn off/on again, doesn't turn on at all
>of fucking course, you dunce, you emptied the battery
>battery out, charger on, charging over night
>next morning
>turn key to ignition, everything boots up fine
>start engine
>nothing
>once more
>nothing
>don't try again
>afternoon, take out battery to charge it again, charger says it's defective
>ffs, write dealership

>tl;dr
ECU fucks up on me twice in three weeks of buying a new bike, now it won't start at all

I've been jeeted. even if they repair it, I can't trust this bike. what if next time it doesn't start when I'm in the mountains again or abroad?
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>>29096328
>>29096330
Is the bike all stock?
What year is it?
Sounds like QC in the electrical department, maybe you have vampire electricity?
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>>29096333
yes, all stock and I bought it 24 days ago brand new
I don't know what could be sucking the electricity. my first thought was that something came loose while riding, maybe as a result of the mechanic not properly replugging cables after service. but everything looked fine and nothing's loose, I checked everything I can see and have easy access to, without taking the bike apart
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>>29096201
This nigga tryna sell his ZX9R
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>>29096330
>>afternoon, take out battery to charge it again, charger says it's defective
just tried to put it on the charger again, charger says that it has started a desulphation process
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I think anon will call me retard because I'm getting a 125hp bike as a first one, but I'm strong and independent man, surely I can handle it.
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>>29096344
not saying that you're guaranteed to die, but you're not lowering your chances. but as long as you're not retarded and take your time to get to know the bike and know some restraint on the throttle until you've got some miles under your ass, you should be okay.
don't die anon
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>>29096344
You already know you're a retard at least. Hopefully you just flip it before you start moving instead of crashing it and dying.
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>>29096344
Based retard folllowing in texas anon's path with the 999 firstbike timelines
Just make sure the tires are gtg and it isnt some clapped out shitbike, if youve never ridden a bike get some saddle time before you do pull the trigger on one

Remember
>there are those who drop their baik
>and those who have yet to drop their baik
Youre gonna drop your baik, preference to not at speed

Good luck fellow crashing enthusiast; you surely btfo all zoomers on ebikes smoking hub motor melt copiums
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>>29096344
it was nice knowing you
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>>29096324
>Nightster was made in the USA through 2025. It’s being made in SEA for a few years during factory expansion, scheduled return to Troy factory in 2028.
So it's true but your loyalty blinds you to admit it because "Harley Promised"
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>>29096094
They've dropped so much in value after the high mileage ones are showing severe wear in the dog gears. Not worth the hassle if you actually intend to ride for fun. Better off finding a concours or grandpa mod a busa.
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cannot fathom being tricked into buying a indian made motorcycle pretending to be from a long dead british brand
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>>29096344
Don't worry you will drop it in a full parking lot, sell it and never ride again.
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>>29096328
Have you checked the relays? Jeet manufacturers love putting on soo much grease it fucks the electrics.
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>>29096562
What a fucking retard
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>>29096589
If only indian had more than one meaning
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>>29096430
I don’t own a Harley king, I’ve only ever owned kawasakis and Hondas. I don’t have loyalty to or against HD, so it’s easy not to lie about them. Pan America came back after a couple years for the same reason, so there’s no reason to doubt the nightsters return.

>>29096589
He’s talking about royal enfield, boss
Although the royal enfield factory in India was in production while RE was still alive in England, so to what extent they’re “pretending” is up for debate.
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>>29096538
>They've dropped so much in value after the high mileage ones are showing severe wear in the dog gears.
First I'm hearing of this but I'm going to look into it. I thought the major concerns were cam chain tensioners and shocks.
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>>29096328
DO NOT REDEEM SAARRR
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>>29096589
Lmao
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>>29096597
True, the India factory just never stopped building when the British Raj collapsed.
considering they have an engineering and product development center in England now I would consider RE to be as British as ever, but with better manufacturing.
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>>29096330
>inb4 the battery has been bad the whole time and causing ECU codes to throw
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Neat video
https://youtu.be/0FkkSPpfkso?t=269
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Are Mitas tires any good?
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>>29096589
>assembled
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>>29096872
I have them on my Izh, they're okay
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>>29096872
Trust the dunlop/michellin/kenda touch
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>>29096872
Yes; If you want to spend more than Kenda, but less than Dunlop.
You gotta do more investigating than 'is X good?' since tire models can differ.
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>>29096328
>>29096330
Electrical issues really are the worst.
Sucks to hear you're having a negative experience on your new bike.
I was kind of hoping to get one of these at some point.

As gay as it is, the best way to get problems like this solved is often to cause a huge stink on social media by going out on the bike, letting it break down in a worst case senario, and then making a vlog about how the bike let you down.
There have been like 10+ RE motovloggers that have had their bikes break on them in the middle of nowhere and so the manufacturer is forced to do something to repair their publicity.
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>>29096838
I had a suzuki with a bunch of weird electrical issues, I put up with it for months and grew to hate the bike before i bought a new battery and they all went away.
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>>29096911
Never buying india
Never buying chyna
Only buying big 4
Only buy v twin ALL-AMERICAN S&S internals
Simple
As

You always meet the most honest nice people on a honda
Buy a honda and quit lying to yourself, royal enfield anon
Time to upgrade the learner bike
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>>29096970
Bugger off, No one besides the Indians can make comfortable tractors.
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>>29096344
remember the faster you let go of that clutch the faster the bike goes, but only when you have the throttle completely pinned first. Have fun!
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It is ready.
Chinese 50 buck CV carbs, jetted with chink kong jets drilled to perfection, time to take it for a maiden voyage.

At least the throttle response is ridiculous, the engine instantly shoots to 6k rpm, no stuttering or hesitation like with the original round slide carbs.

I do think the idle jet might be too rich because there's absolutely no reaction to the mixture screw.
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>>29096911
the thing is, what if it hadn't started then and there up the hill and not at home?
mechanic called today, he says his first guess is a faulty battery causing the ECU readings and he ordered a new battery. Guess they'll have to pick up my bike.

even if it's 'just' the battery, this is a brand new bike, this shouldn't happen. Hope they'll agree to exchanging bikes. I have no interest in getting stranded with a third problem.

they got a used V-Strom that looks fine
or maybe I'll bite the more trustworthy Indian shit-laced bullet and get a Himi
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>>29096981
>50 buck CV carbs
oooh fancy, that's more than what the bike is worth
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>>29095769
The winter rains are my favourite part, though.
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>>29097001
Some high tech shit I'll tell you that.
Need to swap smaller pilot jets, but the thing is a ripper now, twist the throttle in 2nd gear and it tries to pick up the front wheel
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>>29097049
you enjoy fearing for you own well-being, I see. What's life without an avoidable, very real risk of death or amputation?
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How are the Clymer manuals? I keep seeing "BUY A FUCKING CLYMER MANUAL YOU WRENCHLET" on other forums when I usually follow the service manual.
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>>29097087
Shop manual is very important imo
Ive gotten a lot of use from them
I wish manufacturers would sell you their service manuals directly, id pay good money...
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>>29097123
idk what their big hangup is when working on your bike is one of the easiest wrenching tasks there is. If they don't sell them I'm just going to get them from some guy's google drive
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>>29097087
>Clymer
My experience is only with Haynes and everything is good EXCEPT wiring schematics. I've had manuals for 3 different cars and consistently the connector pin locations have been wrong
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>willingly paying money for an object touched, let alone fully built, by an indian
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I like their dreamcatchers and blankets.
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>>29097167
Big shout out to Navajo Truck Stop somewhere in New Mexico!
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>>29097153
I understand they have factories built by europeans, americans and japanese, and they have quality control over there. But I can't get over the videos where it shows HOW they are making helmets out of one fiberglass layer or roll aluminum pans out of scrap sheets. Am I racist?
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>>29097087
>>29097138
both these companies purposefully miss different things in one or the other to get you to buy both
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>>29097070
>poppin dank ural whols
Say it aint so, film one, that sounds cool
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what do you guys use to carry your helmet around?
I have a big grocery tote bag for my gear for when I go to work but surely there's an alternative right
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>>29097298
>takes his bucket off in public
This is not the way
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>>29097298
>what do you guys use to carry your helmet around?
my head
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>>29097298
>carry your helmet around
Carry?
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>>29097351
I'm always scared of getting those boxes in case some crackhead just tries to steal the whole box or something
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>>29097362
Do crackheads walk around with a set of allen keys to unbolt your topbox?
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>>29097368
that's too smart
I was thinking they're retarded enough to try and shake it off or some retarded shit and dropping the bike
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>>29097331
Yes
>>29097368
My crackheads used a hammer and screwdriver on my triple tree and then attempted amateur hour hotwiring with the fuze box, which did nothing because they alreqdy jacked into the aforementioned triple tree and busted the key housing entirely
The crf450rl was kill and stole for a total of 5 days before i found it like 2 blocks away in the alley
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>>29097298
Nah when I'm at work I leave it on my desk so anyone who comes to see me has to comment on it then I bore them for 5 minutes about how great bikes are and that whilst they were sat stuck in traffic in a cage I was doing 160mph.
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>>29097298
I just leave mine hung on the handlebars when I'm not on my bike
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CE level 1 women's riding jacket for $57 dollaroos
would the large fit on me if I can wear medium shirts?
fuck I might buy it
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>>29097393
The cut is going to be completely wrong and it won't fit you.
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>>29097387
Used to do this until a retarded woman knocked mine to the tarmac. Now I actually use the factory helmet lock
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>>29097384
I keep mine in my office, so when someone says "nice helmet", I say it's not just a "helmet", it's a Shoei, it was meticulously hand crafted in Japan by a Japanese craftsman who hand laid the thousands of fiberglass fibers that loving envelope my head and keep me safe.
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>>29097396
This. Women have completely different body shapes and proportions to men. It's a genetic trait that can't be truly altered, like the pelvis, and skin texture among other clear demarcations between the two genders.
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>>29097397
I've been doing it for like 15 years and never had an issue.
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>>29097298
>short stop
Flip up the chin bar, I wear a modular or an open face
>long stop
Put it in my top case
>long stop, full top case
Hang it from the mirror, it's more secure than a handlebar
>long stop, full top case, bad weather
Just carry it. If its like a doctors office or something professional I'll ask the secretary at the front desk to hold onto it for me. If its a grocery store it can go in the cart. If its a restaurant I ask them to put it with the coats.

>>29097351
I have the givi trekker 52, I haven't yet met a top case that actually holds two helmets unless theyre both smalls. I wear a medium or a large helmet depending on the brand, and my wife wears a small or a medium helmet, and I haven't met a case where even a small and a medium fit. Has to be two smalls.

>>29097399
My boss' partner used to ride, and a few of the VPs ride, so it's free cred to ride to work. They always comment "oh ahhh it is a nice day isn't it, I should have ridden today but ah my kids you know, stuff to do... I need to get it running again" you can tell theyre self conscious for not riding.
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>>29097407
>I've been doing it for like 15 years and never had an issue.
I'm the sort of ugly that makes women act like pieces of shit around me
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>>29097425
Fortunately I'm the kind of ugly that they just don't want to associate with.
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>>29097411
I wear medium helmets. Here's an LS2 and a Sedici in the big top box together. Are you using bulkier modular helmets?
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I hope some day a bike guy talks shit about my cute scoot and I can remind him that I can carry groceries and he can't
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>>29097484
But I go for groceries on the bike, no issues so far.
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>>29097485
let me have this
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>>29097484
And then everyone would clap
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>>29097479
No, this is my first modular. I mean, apparently we are wearing bulky helmets because I can't get them to fit, so the proof is in the pudding... But this is my first modular.

>>29097484
Several NC700/750/x/s riders itt
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Do you guys know anything about trackers? It looks like every single YouTube review about them is sponsored.
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where can I get cute weather resistant stickers I don't want to buy mass produced slop off of amazon
I got a few stickers from an anime convention
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>>29097393
I got an unused kilimanjaro for 20+shipping on goodwill's site.
Its a woman's jacket but it fits me, try and find sizing guides that say the actual measurements.
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>>29097501
There used to be /osg/ auto sticker general but it kept dying to ev fag spam and nu fags didnt like it

I think that some of their sticker stores are still up, its worth asking around they have some very cool designs and I want some too

Ill post here if I find anything
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>>29097501
Found a link at least

https://osgvendors.spread.name/

I dont have time to parse through it yet, share with the rest of the class if you find anything good
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Is it so wrong to consider a Grom for a first bike?

The /o/tism scares me and I don't need or want to be überbased, who only rides the pure Nippon baiku and drags knee on EVERY corner. I just want something to occasionally ride for fun with little to no fuss or risk of massive injury
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>>29097569
Groms are good bikes. Not super fast but they're fun. A 125 is plenty of engine if you're just goofing off and making shorter trips. The things max out around 60. All of the honda 125cc bikes are nice.
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>Inna parking lot
>practicing for my test on Wednesday
>wipe out b/c my throttle control is shit
>second time this exact thing has happened.
Does anyone have suggestion for exercises to practice throttle control? I'm finding that I'm really clenched up during riding and I think it's causing a lot of issues on top of my inexperience.
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>>29096975
>t.
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>>29097569
Groms can be forever bikes and good n+1 starter bikes
Id rwther have a trailcub 125 cause thats like the advdad of minimotoscoots, plus its way cooler cause they made a whole anime about them
Iykyk, kogumer pills are the only pills for small ccs
Groms good for learning whols and hooning at relatively safe speeds in parking lot stunt areas etc.
But unless you want to airbagsuspension, tune with new motor, and stretch your grommer- then thats where those customization niche shitters shine
Dont get a navi unless its like 30% mrsp barley miled out, pretty sure theyre the same motor but this will be cheapeat of em all

Patricians choice is the papio just because its chynesium fairings are too cute, but real men choose the cub anf take kogumers pills
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>>29097298
That's what the mirrors are for
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>>29097501
No idea how many of these are still alive
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YycLVHMJjrhZLQNbnHhhf79fbyWQw0HqaChJFQjlZaE/edit?gid=989484789#gid=989484789
https://osgvendors.spread.name/
https://www.summershopping.art/
https://www.watracing.com/
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>>29097584
It's easier to have smooth throttle control when you're light on the bars. Squeezing the bike with your knees to take your weight on the bars helps. Death gripping the bars is also a survival reaction you'll just have to train out of yourself in time. Twist of the Wrist talks about this.
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>>29097584
hold the bars like you would an ice cream cone
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>>29097584
feather the clutch if its grabby. bikes have a wet clutch so unlike a car you can ride the clutch without burning it up until you get the coordination down with the throttle and whatever
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So what is the point of Janus motorcycles anymore now that RE has most of their lineup in North America? I thought "Well maybe people would want a bike with little electronics that is carbed" but no, it's fucking fuel injected and has all of its electronics in a rat's nest under the seat.

sooo what's the point of these things?
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off-topic Rin post reminding you of the superiority of Suzuki.
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>>29097584
Rev your rpms while clitch is pulled in, get it to lile 1.5-1.8k rpm with very light throttle actuation, begin as you normally would releasing the clutch until the frictoon zone bites, maintain the throttle so that the bike niether stalls nor launches you, and use the rear brake to basically control the motions in between
If you do this properly youll never drop your bike at 0-3kph and its basically feathering the clutch but with just enough rpms to prevent stalling and still transfer enough power to rear wheel

Get used to your rear brake for stability in low speed maneuvers: rather than clutch in when you feel youre losing control youre going to train yourself to rather add more power, in a controlled manner, and keep yourself upright
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>>29097713
That is how I was trained.
The guys I had were mostly cops or ex-forces.
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>>29097501
>/osg/ died
>https://taiyoracingcompany.com.ar/goodies/clover/
>is dead
>Go through bookmarks
>90% are dead links
>survivors pivoted to appeareal

Its over, we entered a new era of /o/ and no one noticed
>https://triplecatdeluxe.com/collections/stickers
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>>29097742
I only did those things on my other bigger displacement bikes, but once i got my autoclutch installed in the crf450rl; the rabid stalling issues from its weird engine were mitigated like 99% of the time and made this process easier for trails and hills now
>tfw i can still flood the motor and stall with an autoclutch every once in a while
Bigly weird, but just single cylinder problemos i suppose
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>>29097749
>he posts some of the deadliest stiggerpills in existence
Anon, do NOT tempt me into buying a new bucket for stiggers
I had an addiction, and it needs to end NOW
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HAI GUYS WHERE CAN I BUY THE KATANA FAIRING FOR XBOX360 I MEAN SV650 XDDDDDDDDDDDD
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High speed pursuit in Los Angeles
https://youtu.be/4WFpEqFdhHE
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>>29097852
DownVote
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>>29097808
fortnite
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>>29097861
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>>29097684
Interesting
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>>29097684
I have a burn on my right calf that hasn't gone away in about two years from throwing a leg over the bike and immediately having my jeans slip up my legs and the calf coming into contact with the exhaust.

It will come out.. right bros?
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>>29097074
I don’t ride in the winter got me a car for that
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>>29097584
drink half a beer

>>29097682
they never really had a point です
but the halycon 250 weighs under 280 odd pounds wet
the classic 350 weighs 430 pounds wet according to the google machine
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>>29095863
It's estimated that over 180k people were there this year. Pretty impressive.
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>>29098059
That's a lot of helmets
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>>29098024
sorry anon, you're branded and can't get married anymore
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New lady at work also rides, she saw my NC700X god bike parked outside, turns out she rides an NC750X, just a few years newer.
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>>29097658
>>29097662
>>29097671
>>29097713
Thanks, Anons. This is all super helpful. A night's sleep and reading this has got me ready for more practice.

>>29098057
>Half a beer.
That would probably KO me. Haven't drank in 2+ years.
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>>29098073
: ^ (
the brand of baiku
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>>29098082
she sounds rich, put a ring on her
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anyone have the new baby gs? looking for first bike, this seems light and versatile, but I don't really know much about bikes. I'm not sure I like the looks, but looking for personal experiences from ADV enjoyers
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How feasible is it to have a little shit bike with studded tires for winter riding in a city? Think 25mph speed limit, paved roads, slush, snow and ice, rip a mile and a half to the bar and back. I’d like a trail125 but want to get something used and sub-$1k if possible.
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>>29098173
i am married tyvm
she is rich though, she was sharing pictures of her and her husbands garage, four other very nice motorcycles, three nice cars, two crappy cars (their adult children still live with them).
Very nice lady, she just started a couple years ago she says, her husband and her have been riding around together for years. i hope she doesnt turn to paste on the roads of NJ.
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>>29098238
You can do it just fine, but probably not for $1k unless you're an adept blackthumb.
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>>29098238
It's not bad but highly dependent on your sense of balance / maintaining balance when you feel the sensation of slipping or losing traction.

If you can keep it together and upright instead of panicking then it's possible but if you're the deer in headlights type or reactively force an input suddenly then you're gunna go down mmmkay'
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>>29098238
if youre in a city i'd just buy an ebike, or a 50cc scooter.
riding year round is fine, 25mph you dont get that cold from the wind blast so you can get by with regular coat, ski gloves etc
its not until 60mph+ that you have to really get creative to not freeze
i and many others in this thread ride year round in snowy climes and can tell you its perfectly doable.
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>>29098315
Kill yourself canadian furfag retard.
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>>29098315
You can have a bigger engine and use it to not go fast in the winter.
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>>29098238
>Think 25mph speed limit
the average e-bike unironically goes faster than that

legit, a shitty chinked up "500w" model with the speed based limiter off can usually hit at least 20-30 over flat ground depending on rider weight and bicycle quality. though on snow obvs you will not only be hampered by dat powdah but also probably wouldn't even want to go much faster for safety

>sub1k
a chinky ebike used will be 500-1000, snow tires for a bike are 100ish for a set of cheap ones (but normal knobbies will take snow fine and ice will laugh at studs regardless)
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>>29098238
>25MPH
>paved roads
>slush
Consider a little scooter. Something that you can easily get your feet down in, and wear something that is sturdy enough to let you drop your feet. Also something cheap enough to where the salt rust does not eat at it too badly.

Since this is a little beater bike, I would even suggest a little Chinese scooter so you don't feel too bad about it rusting to shit in the spring.
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I rode today and it rained on me
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>>29097074
>oh noes a drop of rain
Just ride more carefully and don't fling it through excessively tight corners. It is more the dark I mind than the rain.
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>>29097298
Poke it over the pillion back rest usually. Or carry in my hand.
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>>29097384
>then I bore them for 5 minutes about how great bikes are and that whilst they were sat stuck in traffic in a cage I was doing 160mph.
I love doing that too. Having the helmet on my desk instantly makes me cooler than everyone else.
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>>29097569
No, it is a great little bike. My buddy at work has a Benelli that looks exactly like it.

Start with what you like then work up when you want.
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>>29097074
You're already on a motorcycle but a bit of rain is where you draw the line?
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>>29097684
>posting the inferior version
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>>29098315
Ebikes are so gay and expensive its not even a practical solution; just a flex on consumerist poors who are likely unlicensed preteens; all for the sake of saying you have money to spend on trivial fads rather than get exercise or ride proper

South park(so gay) had an ebike episode recently, its pretty accurate


Riding in winter requires balls of steel and some knobulars at the least
If tiu dint have studs, i guarantee you will slip somewhere and fall at least once or twice if the roads are not pristine and clean for winter riding
Risky if you dont have low ground clearance too, as most knobby dirtbikes are high and unstable
Best bike for winter is honestly a sidecar moto or a tw200 with winterized mods
As long as you arent some first generwtion immigrant and completely clueless to winter and the variety of snow and snow conditions (did you know the inuit have like 70 words for snow how to describe it qnd its properties?), then all it takes is some practice and foreknowledge about the physics in those conditions

The worst part of winter driving is the compression of recent snowfalls, ambient temperature cycle of freeze and thaw during critical ranges, other drivers who are new canadians and thus no fucking idea how chains or threshold braking works, and polar bears or moose ripping your dick off


All that aside, winter rides can be super deadly; i have yet to try a snowbike kit but they seem like a super expensive meme compared to a proper platform snowmobile
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>>29098317
i am an American in America

>>29098323
you cant have a bigger engine and use it to weigh less, though

>>29098334
i agree, a china scooter is probably good for this

>>29098341
rained today on my commute as well

>>29098377
>ebikes are gay
i dont think so
>and expensive
chinese ebike several hundred dollars, really good chinese ebike 1200-1500 dollars, how poor are you?
you sound like a fag and your shits all retarded
i have ridden all winter in a snowy place for years and have never dropped the bike (in winter)
maybe up in canada its too cold to salt the roads, but i'm in the rust belt, we dont leave snow and ice on the road and drive over sand like neanderthals
>canadians aint season they roads
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>>29098383
Why would you care about the weight when you have more than enough power to get it moving as fast as you want? It's still going to be more capable at low speeds than the 50cc.
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>>29098387
because snow exists and compacting it too much beneath/behind your wheels is bad
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wear your gear, especially a helmet
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>>29098412
How often are you riding a motorcycle on fresh powder snow?
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>>29098315
I’m thinking the Coleman $800 100cc camp minibike + studs might be where its at
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>>29098420
>anon wants a winter bike
>HURRR WHEN WOULD U EVER BE ON SNO????
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>>29098383
>too cold to salt the roads
>in canada
Um, you might be the fag whos shits all retarded
I also ride in winter
Ebikes are gay, the cold and especially the -40c bullshit here, does not favour battery longevity whatsoever
>oh just let me bring my giant ebike into work and charge it
One such example of how thats probably not happening compared to summertime bikes if a smaller nature that also dont weigh 70lbs
>oh i have dat torq
>but now my battery died / failed
And now you have to haul that excess weight, in snow, which sucks

>how poor are you
Poor enough to know that rich people dont buy ebike trash i guess?
Id never buy an ebike, id get the crackhead lawn mower special before i ever rode an ebike, and for lower prices than chinese cheapies
Oh and if my shits gonna explode its because of the 3 liters of crackhead gasoline, not critical rare earth metals which refuse to elaborate

Picrel is the spring before the crackhead incident
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>>29098431
You know the weight of an adult human on a bike is going to compress that snow about as much as it can be compressed. I've ridden on snow on all sorts of bikes. It's not like you're riding on top of the snow by being a combined 500 pounds instead of 600. It doesn't make a material difference if you're talking about compaction.
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>>29098420
You obviously do nkt drive in winter enough to ask such a stupid question
You dont even need powder to cause a variety of those kinds of fucked conditions with snow
The amount of tires driving over fresh snowfall is enough to cause the worse slime mush salt shitshow imaginable, and its pure butter and nothing will give you traction

Im presuming we are still riding a bike here

And then theres two sets of tracks foe tires, a giant rift hump in the middle of both of compact snow, and probably peaks and valley of 2-8inches depending on how fucked traffic has been carving that shit
Oh and then gravel, so you get extra slips trips and falls from something meant to prevent that but fuck you youre on 2 whols, its now an added risk
Studded tires are the only thing helping you negotiate that dogshit after its fubar
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>>29098417
What did you do?
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>>29098433
i ebike in winter, the cold doesnt do much. discharging it keeps it at temp. you can also insulate your battery. if you begin riding immediately after leaving the battery will be fine, the bigger danger is the motor not dealing with temperature gradients and cheap chinesium internal gearing exploding or dealing with potential water ingress when the little bit of snow you couldn't brush off melts. exposed bicycle components HATE snow thoughbeit and will soon perish without constant maintenance

>oh just let me bring my giant ebike into work and charge it
the battery is removable on most models

>And now you have to haul that excess weight, in snow, which sucks
stop being fat (because you do NOT have dat torq and WILL have to pedal to help it through wet snow)

probably just get a gas dirt bike, if you are poor then you can't afford an electric dirtbike anyway and a bicycle but electric will work if you have a high tolerance for bullshit but is still not ideal
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>>29098439
Exactly. A shitty little 50cc isn't going to be any safer. Neither are going to get any traction without the correct tires and a lighter bike won't magically not compact the snow.
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>>29098440
saw the gravel too late
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New thread, migrate

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>>29098439
IMO this is why a china scoot is the best deal, let it rust to shit and put the manual tire pins in it for studs.



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