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>Motorcycle tips, tricks, and bad advice
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>Winter is coming :(
>Scooters are cool too, now swap 1000cc in it
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Previous /o/dbt/: >>29143037
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>/o/dbt/
>0bin
Kys
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i don't come to o often. is this general still just trannies and faggots with feminine penis?
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>>29145847
should I put a slip on on my bike
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my mom said i can't get a motorcycle but she seems okay with me getting one of these as she still thinks its quite bicycle-ish. just want something to mess around with.

my question is, should i go new or old? the new trail 125s look slightly bigger but unsure.

also taking suggestions for other motorized things that look less like traditional motorcycles
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>>29145866
Boomers are a plague. Also you need to be 18 to use this site, bro.
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>>29145866
Pic is a bit of a design classic.

There are more Honda Cubs than any other vehicle.
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>>29145866
they are cheap enough I'd just go new
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>>29145866
I've never seen a trail 90 that didn't need everything taken apart and regreased. That shit is like 50 years old.
But they're easy to rebuild and pretty fun as long as you don't want to go faster than 35-45mph. 45 is really pushing it tho.
It also depends on where you live, if surrounded by 45mph roads good luck
These were popular in the 50s/60s/70s when the main road into town was still 35mph
The new trail 125s can maybe do an extra 5mph, call it 50.

But really just get a tw200 if you can sell it to your parent(s), being able to actually keep speed is a safety feature.
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>>29145882
tw200 isn't gonna get approval
>>29145875
still, $4000+tag/fees kinda stinks. but it would be dead reliable
>>29145868
i still live at home, its complicated
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>>29145887
650cc moped.
But it's a moped mom.
We all live at home, some of us own ours.
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>>29145887
are you looking at the dax 125 or trail 125
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>>29145895
Burgman Executive is a peak street scooter, I'd buy one if not the scooter stigma in my country, girls in my office would laugh their asses off. Also the second seating on those are cringe as fuck, why there's a second huge seat on Executive machine like im gonna have a passenger on it? Just give me storage and I'm gonna tour the whole urop on that thing.
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>>29145907
It's a babby 'Wing with a mid mounted motor.
Never tried one but when you are on the road with one it is most certainly not a twist-and-go .
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>>29145906
Trail
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If literbikes can go about 100 mph in first gear, does it you're supposed to only use the first gear up to like 70 mph? So you'll never use second gear in the city and you won't even use second gear on country roads when you're not squidding? And what's the slowest you can go on a literbike without causing bad engine vibrations or holding clutch?
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>>29145926
RVF750 had a stupidly high first hear (75 or so mph) then the rest were geared quite closely because it was a race bike and ain't nobody going 30mph on a racetrack.
Use your torques to get efficient use and the revs when you get all happy bunny.
You'll find the lowest speed you can ride when you stall and fall over.
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what stuff should I have done to my bike before taking it out. It's been sitting for 2 years. I'm gonna put tires/tubes and oil change
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>>29145936
You should have pushed it off a cliff to save you the hardship of crashing due to lack of practice
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>>29145941
riding motorcycles isn't hard anon
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>>29145936
Gas and it's associated gubbins. American gas goes off faster than a rice based meal.
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>>29145866
BASED GET IT
>my question is, should i go new or old? the new trail 125s look slightly bigger but unsure.

Whichever one you can get your hands on for cheap. The new ones are based but they're highly expensive for what they are, about $4500. Meanwhile I bet you can find a Trail 90 or 110 on Facebook for $1200 ish no matter where you live
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>>29145926
You can always short shift. Nobody WANTS to be riding around in the jumpy as fuck low gears.
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>>29145962
Not that anon but a lot of the newness has worn off for the 1st owners of the trail 125s. They're 2500 on the cheap and like 3500 for one with basically 0 miles

Maybe I just live in a fortunate area but I will never buy a motorcycle directly from the dealer. Just makes bad financial sense.
Then again I'm most aren't paying cash for a man toy, so its all a monthly payment to people lol
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>>29145887
>still, $4000+tag/fees kinda stinks. but it would be dead reliable
Yeah that's the kicker. The Trail 125 is one of the best scooters Honda has ever made but good fucking luck

Now, I am suggesting dark oriental magic when I say this: You could get a Chinese Trail 125 clone. They make those. The engine is a clone of the same Honda engine that they put on the Trail 110 and is just as reliable. Also, it's street legal, and ships right to your door so you put it together with some assembly required.

https://www.redfoxpowersports.com/125-rtx-scooter-moped-with-manual-transmission-classic-scooter-style#

Now, there are some downsides as you can imagine. #1 being that it is not semi-automatic CVT driven, it has a standard motorcycle transmission so you have to learn to shift like a motorcycle with your left hand. It also has some sketchy choices for accessory placement for the engine. What do I mean by that? See that big cylinder hanging right next to the engine? That's a fuel filter. You will have to get the moped and zip-tie it into a comfortable position away from the engine and check every single screw in the thing when you get it.

But there are some upsides. These things are not well-known machines, so you could probably try to get it plated as a 50cc Moped. I doubt anyone will call you out on it. Mopeds have advantages that regular scooters do not have. Like using bike paths, or parking next to buildings. It will also hit the same speeds the trail cub.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSOTOmnZ7Xs
idk, think about it
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>>29145966
I saw one for $2K recently, feel dumb for not jumping on it
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>>29145971
These guys are a little more expensive but they're much, much sketchy when it comes to chink imports. They do real testing on their stuff even if its' made of newspapers
https://www.venommotorsportsusa.com/products/venom-cub-125cc-scooter-4-speed
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>>29145926
No. Just because it can go that fast in 1st doesn't mean it's ideal to infinitely be in 1st gear. 1st gear is (typically) an unstable gear.
>what's the slowest you can go without harm
That's completely dependant on your clutch operation skills. If I'm in stop and go traffic in 1st (or even in 2nd when it's crawling traffic) the engine will only be damaged if you put too little or too much into the clutch/throttle.

Some exceptions, typically twin engines that don't like to be lugged low (think high strung Desmo engines that aren't ment to stay down low for long)

If liters were made not to be on roads then they would never sell them in the first place due to warranty fuckery. The only thing about a liter is there's a ton of go fast juice in your right wrist. Just don't tip the pitcher full of juice so much that your cup floods over.
>t. LITERLOVUR
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>>29145987
>Add NIBBI Racing Carburetor + Intake + NIBBI Air Filter*
>17T front sprocket

>125cc chink Honda scooter clone that weighs less than 200 lbs
dude that sounds hilarious
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One or two more weeks and my bike gets into a winter sleep. Anon I want to ride...
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>>29145999
Ride South young man, ride South
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Beautiful Autumn ride today lads
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>>29146016
Today was fantastic, only regret is I didn't stop and take pictures
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Gonna ride into work tomorrow assuming the weather holds. Dunno how much longer I'll be able to get away with that, but I have heated grips and some Hippo Hands coming in later this week.
>>29146016
HYB
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Season is ending soon D:
I think this is the last week for riding.
>>29145866
you'll become a better rider starting on that.
>>29145926
I get what you're saying, because higher cc bikes do not like lugging the engine. But 1st gear is just to choppy to be in traffic. Its better if you just stay in second unless you're at a light, or stopping.
>>29146016
>Nice bike
>Nice scenery
Based
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>>29145926
>And what's the slowest you can go on a literbike without causing bad engine vibrations. 1,500 rpm and above there's lots of torque
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I want one.
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>>29146040
Idle speed is idle speed.
Someone in here needs to get out of his moms basement and take a lesson.
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>>29146047
The fuck are you talking about, you have 0 control over the throttle plates actual position on a modern bike you can't even bog it. Wrenchlet
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>>29146038
Season? We're entering the next one. It's never over.
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>>29146048
Translate this to human from ragelet. I'd like to know what went on there.
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Cozy carburetor rebuild
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>>29146038
A 1000 is going to tolerate low rpms better than a 600, you have it backwards. Longer stroke.
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I'm gonna say it. Bikes with an upright sitting position are superior in every way except for the track race. All bikes with an inclined sitting position are going to die out. They already do.
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>>29146059
>natty daddy
oh good lord
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Hmmmm
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>>29146016
I agree, excellent weather in CO today
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>>29146068
Disc lock > steering lock.
Crash bars > bare fairing sides.
Claymore > alarm.
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>>29145525
And it’s still extremely ugly because key details and proportions are wrong
If you think it looks good you’re not actually familiar with the way these bikes looked
It’s a failure of good design, the product isn’t coherent all the way through.
It’s a similar failure to the Plymouth prowler. If you’re aiming at a vintage look from that far in the past you can’t half ass it.
>>29146026
Ride all year
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>>29146071
The KLR is a pig of an ADV with an underpowered old dualsport motor. The DR650 is just an old dualsport, but designed to be ACTUALLY rugged. There is no good reason to buy a KLR650 (new) in current year.
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>>29146075
Honestly thought about it, my main concern is: how am I gonna wash my bike in the winter after the roads have been salted? People say don't let that shit sit on your bike, but my hose has been put away for the season.
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>>29146079
Local self serve car wash is open all year, I go once a week
I used to have no such local option and I used a big hand pump filled with warm water once a week, one of these
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How do i get this plastic nigger off? The manual says theres 4 screws but theyre not on my carb
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>>29146074
>Crash bars > bare fairing sides.
That's a boxer, it's probably more or less fine, maybe got a broken clutch lever. The majority of energy goes into the crash plate on the engine, then at the drive shaft onto a knob and the rest onto the handlebar ends. I didn't drop mine yet but I heard it should be relatively painless if it's a stationary drop. Also real crash bars are ugly.
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new rider here, only ridden 180 twins. what is the benefit of v twin? considering a zuki SV650
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>>29146105
They sound better, and the "big bang" clustered power pulses arguably give a bit better traction when accelerating. This second point doesn't matter unless you are an extremely good rider pushing the limits of your tires.
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>>29145907
>girls in my office would laugh their asses off
Get one and give them a small trip on them, when they feel how torquey it is, they won't laugh anymore.
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>>29146108
I'õm new. is the "sound better" actually relevant every day or some straight piper fart fetish dream?
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>>29146105
Look at Vstrom 650 and remember what's written there>>29146068
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>>29146076
why not? It is durable as hell and is good for just cruising around back roads
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>>29146105
If I recall v twins are less balanced or something causing the distinctive sound? Being that the cylinders are in a V but like uh, longitudinal(?) you can make a slightly more slender bike in theory and have different balance characteristics but in actuality it makes no difference in the current year besides V twins just being cool.
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>>29146044
Got the 08 model
It's one of the best "Sure I can do that" bikes out there but I would never ,ever pay new prices for a KLR adventure. They must be nuts charging almost $8K OTD for one
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>>29146099
Any other angles you can give of that part?
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>>29146076
Yeah this.
I took my KLR on forest trails today. It *could* do it, but I could picture how much beter almost any other 650 could do given the same circumstances. They decided they wanted to make a road bike for people who want to LARP as owning an adventure bike and that's what they got.
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>>29146129
Its the nylon bit that holds the diaphragm in. I got the old one out but cant get a new one in. Google says heat it so it expands
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>>29146129
>>29146133
The plastic ring.
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So a few years ago I bought an old SV650 as a first bike and got a bit scared of it. Sold it, but I kinda have the bike itch again but this time I want to do it right with a smaller bike to start on.

What can I buy for around 2-3k usd?
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>>29146138
Also just to add, it was a bit heavy and unwieldy for me being a new rider. Maybe too much power.
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>>29146068
damn the UK is such a shithole.
tho I'm not sure it would be any better if this happened over here
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>>29146110
Stock mufflers all kill the exhaust note due to resonator chambers and/or cats. You don't have to straight pipe a bike to actually hear the engine, but a traditional fiberglass muffler lets the engine actually be heard as intended.
>>29146119
If you want durability, a lighter weight bike like the dr650 or a smaller dualsport is better. For cruising around, you may as well buy a used T7 or something to have actually useable power and better brakes with the same weight.
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>>29146122
Sound is dictated by exhaust pulse spacing. This is an extremely complicated topic and there are a million different ways to do it. Two identical engines can sound very different just by changing the header lengths. All engines except for inline 6/inline 12/other multiples of i6 (and i'm probably forgetting some boxer configurations, but they're uncommon for a reason) have some imbalance that can be cured/mitigated with balance shafts.
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>>29146138
Drz400 supermoto/Yamaha r3/ninja 400/anything along those lines.
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>>29146144
what does that mean for p180, p270, v2 though? I've only ridden 180 parallells, but considering a v2 as my first bike (zuki 650)
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>>29146068
I would have agreed but I broke my back on a pothole and now I need forward incline.
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>>29146137
Warm it up with a lighter and just use knife? Lube inside part with isopropyl (hand sanitizer) spray.
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>>29146103
I love crash bars, It's easy to put extra lights on them.
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>>29146049
10/10 pic anon, what state

>>29146016
>>29146072
nice bikes
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>>29146157
>>29146137
>>29146133
warm it up
flat screwdriver behind it and pry it off
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>>29146161
>>29146157
I figured out that i can just leave the nylon on and jam the diaphragm in. Had to spit on it
is that wrong? Any anon with Bing carb experience, should i be able to get the ring off?
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>>29146158
>It's easy to put extra lights on them
ILLEGAL
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>>29146160
WV <3
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>>29146176
figures. absolute most based state to live in
beautiful, majority white, low taxes, no bullshit guns laws, low cost of living
maybe in my next life I'll get to live there
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>>29146179
Ehhh all of those positives listed come at a pretty big cost. It's no wonderland state that's for sure. California would be where i'd want to be reincarnated desu.
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>>29146059
be EXTREAMLY careful with carbureter cleaner
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>>29146103
Is it true you bought this bike for 5k EUR. Man I really want one (or just a regular R naked) but there's none for sale below 7.5k (and even then with 75k+ km) and I can't justify spending two months of income on a bike to ride once in a while.
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>>29146176
you don't have real heavy snowfall that's why you get to ride year round lucky fucker
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>>29146200
Yes. I wanted to get a naked air-cooled R from the previous generation but got this instead because of the price. Just find yourself a low mileage R1200R starting 2008 to avoid ABS issues, it will cost you 4.5k, and be a happy owner of a great bike.
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>>29146226
Not a big fan of how this gen looks desu. Too much grey plastic and metal. Looks very german in all the wrong ways. I'm also looking at Triumph T120s which are a bit cheaper.
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How do you guys feel about motorcycle magazines? I subscribe to a few and buy more at Barnes and noble because I don’t like letting my kids look at screens
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>>29146154
A 180° parallel twin has one cylinder at bottom dead center while the other is exactly at top dead center, thus 180° apart on the crankshaft. They typically have straight two-into-one headers and just sound...unpleasant, a bit too much treble. Not the same sound, but the same ick as a straight piped Nissan VQ engine. V twin top dead center spacing is related to the angle between the two cylinders. Sometimes it's 85°, sometimes it's 60°, often it's 90°. Now, on MOST vtwins, let's say a 90° vtwin, one of them is on the compression stroke at TDC and then the other is on the exhaust stroke at TDC. That ultimately means their firing interval works out to about 270° apart (360° apart due to opposite compression/exhaust strokes -90° due to crankshaft configuration), which is why 270° crankshafts for parallel twins became common, they achieve very similar sound and power pulse characteristics. Videos can explain this a lot better, I have butchered this post rewriting it enough that no amount of proofreading can save me.
https://youtu.be/a9ZFZABaLbg?si=hpBJQI4ZFJ5Jl4CW
"Big bang" power pulse theory:
https://youtu.be/uM-ycHS9uvw?si=vs5okvDKkRaJJrwL
This is also why four strokes grew to dominate motocross in case he doesn't mention that, more spacing between hits of power to let the tire grab the terrain between.
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>honda stopped making the xr650l
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>29146244
>>29146154
Lastly, none of this technical stuff means ANYTHING worth a damn if the bike doesn't put a smile on your face. The modern Ducati v4, for instance, is a marvel of engineering. It's an opposite rotating engine to make the bike turn in easier due to smaller gyroscopic forces. It's optimized for controllable power delivery. NONE OF THAT MATTERS to buyers who care the most about the sound, and they might be instead drawn to an Aprilia RSV4 or a CP4 powered Yamaha R1 instead because of the howl that they scream with.
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they made a cooler looking version of my bike
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>>29146172
Nobody fucking cares. If I speed in this balkan shithole - they just stop me and confirm I have local plates and can speak basic language.
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>>29146170
Nah if you can get it on and it's snug - don't worry about it
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>>29145936
Brake fluid flush
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>>29146266
Honestly looks pretty cool. It looks like one of the old beater klx's you see kicking around where someone spent 3k and countless hours modding a 1k bike and I dig it
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>>29146251
I don't expect the KLR to be around much longer either, given the KLE650 coming out. And I don't see Suzuki getting a new EFI dr650 through emissions in the EU either, but maybe they will.
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>>29146266
I'm really liking these light weight utilitarian bikes they are putting out now. Given that the local roads will degrade to a point which this type of bike is recommended.
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>>29146412
These days. :)
I had a KMX on stickies back in the day, that'll be the eighties.
Pic was fun.
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>>29146416
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>>29146422
:)
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>>29146412
You mean a regular fucking dualsport?
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i rode my scoot in the rain and it was cold few days ago and I caught a cold
fucking mesh jacket
ever since fucking vaxx I always get sick right after little rain
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>>29146435
Regular Dual Sport is that fat chick you don't want people to know you are prodding.
Not those.
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>>29146436
Get a mask or somesuch. You get a bajillion micro-organisms in every breath and one of those little bastards found a new home.
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>>29146440
This is literally a klx300 with a round headlight. I get waves and smiles from the bitches on my little wr250 more than any other bike.
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How come cagers are being inundated with subscription-models for shit like heated fucking seats for their cold cunnies and penis-extending boost-modes but here I am bashing my bare fucking calves repeatedly on my pegs and not a single tear except my dozen are being shed about this localized epidemic?
There are hard spots that have fought tooth and nail to find room among my bulging muscles to claim as hard spots.
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>>29146467
What, exactly, are you asking for? Heated footpegs?
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>>29146416
Remember when bikes had bashplates?
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>>29146469
Remember Junior Kickstart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0rDkubJ8B4
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Small bore motorcycles are just so much more appealing than large bore. I don't know why.
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>>29146103
Damn the rs sure is sexy, not even into sport tourers but it's a nice looking bike.
>>29146226
not same anon but i think that gen of the R is the best looking ones, the new ones are getting more and more uglier, i recently learned about the rockster and that is so weird and ugly it comes back to being cool. still nuts how much bike you can get for the price just because it's not the GS, i was thinking about the r9T but it really can't compete with this.

>>29146244
what about 360° ? i'm eyeing up a BMW f800r and that would be my first Ptwin, my father had the GS and he said the engine was super nice and actually reccomended me the naked
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>>29146467
Gook-moto tried this, and the suckers still shill the ox farmer motorcycle
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>>29146468
No, you braindead fuck, I want pegs that don't destroy my bare calf muscles when I inadvertently attempt to impale myself with the footpegs as I brush past them in the opposite direction.
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>>29146488
I've never heard one IRL. Multiple people love them but the exhaust note in videos is just not for me.
>>29146492
Wear pants???
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>>29146493
Boots even.
ATGATT
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'ku
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>>29146499
Lana
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>>29146467
Why are your calves bare on a bike? Are you some sort of moron?
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>>29146499
Pretty based!
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Cf moto not playing y'all, 200hp v4 wtf? The frames gonna snap right bros?
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>>29146523
Doubt, it's not a yamaha
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Best damn bike I've ever had.
I always wanted an M61 with the 650 OHV powerhouse, but the M72 managed to win me over.
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>>29146544
it's a shame BMW or someone else don't just stick a midsized boxer in a new motorcycle.
i remember there where those renders of the small chinese boxer naked but it was used as a powerhouse for an electric motorcycle.
Also wow that exhaust must be LOUD
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>>29146059
Based carburetor appreciator. I love my carbed bikes so much.
>>29146038
This year I'm committed to getting as much winter riding in as possible. I don't have heated grips or anything, but I'm still gonna make it work.
>>29146044
A KLR was my first bike; first gen, carbureted. It was a good, reliable bike, but it's not a very enjoyable machine to actually ride. That's fine as it's utilitarian nature means it doesn't need to be particularly comfortable or enjoyable.
I find myself lately lusting after a tw or dr-z or something air cooled. Thumper engines are so damn simple.
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>>29145926
Clutch out rolling speed is like 10-15mph in 1st on a literbike, you use 2nd gear for cruising in the city around 30mph because power kicks in about 40mph in 1st, if you're not prepared for that power the superbike will wheelie or power slide unexpectedly. The shitty part is if you're cruising in 2nd or 3rd around 30-40mph and need to crank the throttle, the bike will feel under reved and under powered. They make shitty city bikes, you want a big twin for hooning at slow city speeds, liter fours are for high speed stuff
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>>29146548
>it's a shame BMW or someone else don't just stick a midsized boxer in a new motorcycle
Sure it's BMW's fault not yours that you didn't buy their 850cc boxers when they were on the market. I'm a civil engineer and I always see people complain how houses became all grey simple boxes and then every single one of you piece of shit come to me and ask to build a grey box. Same shit.
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>>29146266
>Round headlight
We're so back
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>>29146560
man i got my license two years ago what the fuck was i supposed to do? i wasn't even alive when the r1100 started production.
i'm just happy we are getting middlesized stuff and i hope this continues and a proper small boxer gets made
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>>29146570
Sorry anon it was not your fault, as well as not mine, I was a school boy back then. I sure would like to ride 850cc boxers with shaft drives today. Imagine an Adventure bike like that...
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>>29146548
https://files.catbox.moe/abzn4a.mp4
It's not that loud in my opinion. Boxer twins by nature are quite subdued in sound
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>>29146592
Fuck it sounds good! such a deep grunt
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>>29146422
want
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>>29145851
Daily reminder, we have 2 other real /dbt/s to migrate to at any time

>>29144582
>>29145970

Javascript jihad
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>>29146625
Those aren't "real" /dbt/ threads schizo, maybe you need to go back to >>r/motorcycles
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>>29146602
It's pretty nice, the original exhaust system had a nice "soviet bomber" drone to it, but the cans were so rotten that it wasn't worth it trying to fix them.
These turnout pipes are some generic 50 buck chink shit from the local autozone equivalent.
I also deleted the crossover pipe between the exhaust "curves" to make removing the pipes easier and frankly the crossover does fuck all on these bikes. It in theory should improve exhaust flow by evening out the pulses, but that nerd shit doesn't really fucking matter worth jack shit on a bike like this to be honest.

The sound IRL isn't as deep or loud as a harley or such, but it does have a pretty nice growl to it.
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honder
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Any updates from the anon with the yamaha XJ6 that wont stop vibrating? Have a chance to test throttle input vs vibrations this weekend?
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>>29146170
>>29146137
>>29146133
>couldn’t replace the diaphragm properly with the ring on, finally got it off
>can’t get it back on, tried heating ring with blowdryer and boiling water
>do more research
>it’s impossible according to BMW, i need to replace the entire assembly ($185)
i could have just not touched it. The gasket was fine, i only replaced it because i didn’t think replacing it could possibly be a problem. my shop manual says all of these carbs get shows a process to replace the diaphragm on a different model after it says the procedures are the same across the several models >:(
Also, everything else in the carb also looked fine, nothing was plugged, no gaskets degraded, no varnish, appears to have been gone through recently and thoroughly. So probably wont fix anything by rebuilding
Next step is probably fuck it up worse by deswaging the thing with needle nose pliers
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*blocks you're path*
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what does no one talk about the new kle
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>electric maxi-scooter
>projected range for the roofed version is ~120 miles
real-life kaneda baiku dropping within my lifetime if things work out, very nice
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>>29146822
Why do they insist on making electric vehicles ugly as sin?
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>>29146842
they're still stuck in "the youngins really like those greebly-ass movie transformers" mode
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>>29146697
holy shit you're alive
thanks for the desktop background pic 10/10
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>>29146822
>projected range for the roofed version is ~120 miles

at 20mph on a flat road? Efficiency for electric motorcycles is surprisingly shit. I am an EVfag but there needs to be a battery breakthrough for bikes.
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>>29146549
if you can find an xt225, get one. simple, air cooled thumper with six gears
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Best bike to buy for around $2000 or so? Used obviously
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>>29146909
I'd probably stretch to a used XR150 L if I could, for that money.
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>>29146898
>at 20mph on a flat road?
70mph
albeit, that's still just projected so you're probably closer to the actual speed. but it demonstrates you get aero benefits the closer you get to a cabin scooter
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>>29146909
Really depends on what you want, 2k could probably get you an older SV650 or a similar twin naked/faired bike
Or some sort of dual sport that may need a little love.
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Sv650 with aftermarket fairing. Still wish there was a faired factory version.
The seat and headlight looks retarded but otherwise cool
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>>29146925
Yeah yeah there's the older 650s model but I'd like ABS brakes for my January rides
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>>29146926
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Yamaha
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>>29146925
>>29146926
>>29146928
very cool baiku
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>>29146933
Yeesh, man they got nothing but scooters for 2027 and this cunt?
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>>29146925
>>29146926
>>29146928
Always hated full fairings on an SV650, it's trying to be a Ducati Monster, leave that damn pipe exposed!!!
You should see if you can get an SV650X style headlight and cowl, those were really great looking
>Still wish there was a faired factory version
There was and it didn't have a freaking lower fairing!!!!!!
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>>29146881
hell yeah brother
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>>29146968
Half fairings are a rare gift
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Here's another SV650
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Btw. Striple
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>>29147021
Enfield is launching a new one.
I heard Yamaha might release the xsr900gt in the US next year also
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>>29147029
xsr 900 GP sorry
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What is wrong with chinese PWK carbs? If you buy quality jets then what makes tuning them more difficult than name brand?
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>>29147118
>chinese
yucky
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>>29145847
is it a bad idea to buy a cheap bike to put around the yard n trails
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>>29147118
Depends on what chinese carbs.
Some noname aliexpress amazon specials might be completely fucked out of the box, some nibbi PWK will work just as well as a Keihin
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>>29147212
The Yamaha TW200 is what you want
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>new bike apears in my apartment next to my rebel.
>No idea whos it is
>Owner runs up to me last night to ask if he should move it and says it he won't be riding it for a long time
I'm not sure if they bought the zx6r as a project or what but it is in really rough shape. Like the wireding is handing outside the frame and all the fairinfs are missing and the entire exhaust is missing. The pegs are broken off too. I wonder if they got it from an auction? Do people even care enough about older ninja 600s to bother with that?
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Does anyone know if i can weld baffles together with jb weld or should I try buying some of the extreme hear jb weld to keep the baffles together? I just need two catalysts on there to see if it helps with the noise of a single cylinder.
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>>29147323
>weld baffles together with jb weld
It probably won't hold up due to vibration
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>>29147391
I will still make the attempt and pray they hold together with a lot of jb weld. Baffles and jb weld are cheap.
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I used to hear fabled stories of guys throwing ninja 650 engines into dual sport frames and always thought that would have been one hell of a trail bike.
>Monkeys paw activates and Kawsaki listens
Wait, no. Not what I meant.
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>>29147399
Why would I want to buy this instead of a Vstrom 650?
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>>29147399
leave it to Kawasaki to see the success of the Tenere 700 but understand nothing about why it is successful. What happened to Big K? This looks like a chinkshit bike. CFMOTO is superior to this.
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>>29147118
I sentence your dumbass to 50 year laogai
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>>29147451
>>29147469
>>29147399
the only thing bad about it is the low ground clearance
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>>29147499
1. No split fender, this ain't a fucking desert racer.
2. Exhuast is low and looks like it sticks out to far, which every t7 owner already knows how that's going to work out.
3. Engine will be battle tested, except they aren't going to fuck with exhaust, cams, and gearing to move the powerband lower. They didn't on the kle500 off the ninja as far as I can tell.
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>>29147391
Lol yea the vibration is an issue, not 1300* exhaust gas temps, wrenchlet
>>29147397
I'd give it 3 mins before it all goes to shit, wrenchlet
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>>29147499
>>29147539
Also tiny forks, by the look of it. Enjoy bombing down forest roads at a blistering 5mph
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>>29147451
Better mid/top end, 21" front, and I would have said better suspension travel by a few inches, BUT GUESS WHAT made that irrelevant.
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>>29146044
First gen best gen
Get one for less than 2k
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>>29147451
control
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>>29147541
If you could read, which obviously you can't, you would have read that he plans to purchase Extreme Heat J-B Weld, which can handle exhaust temps. Since he's talking about doing it to baffles and not the headers, the temperature wouldn't be a problem. Next time try to do more reading and less typing and save us from having to look at your drivel that clogs up the thread.
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>>29147583
That is a bitchin' ass scrambler. Probably heavy as fuck, but still.
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>>29147451
VSTROM is quite a bit longer
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>>29147630
i'm surprised i've only seen 1000cc and above sportsters with the hooligan setup on but not any 883s
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>>29147634
If you're going to spend that kind of time and money on a mod you might as well get the extra 114cc.
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>>29147583
Dam, that thing fucks
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>>29147630
188 lb engine, dry. And still less power than an LC4.
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>>29147583
i wonder if you could use the frame for flat-tracking
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>>29147641
Bruv, we're talking about an 800cc+ diet bike. This is clearly about pretty toys and engine noise.
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>>29147543
clarence?
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>>29145847
Bike lives splatter
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>>29147583
>Extreme Heat J-B Weld
Again, ok I take it back, I give it 5 mins before it all goes to shit, not 3.
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>>29147391
Where can I buy one of these?
(Its not for jackin me off)
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>>29147583
B M W
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Got a question. I'm a fucking squid and I'm realising it today. Should I stop riding? Here's some context.

I got my licence 3 months ago. Like every self respecting squid, I got cockier and cockier. Lane splitting at high speed (always at the legal limit though) , passing over most of the vehicles I encounter and most other squid shit.
I live in Brussels, a very dense city in terms of people AND vehicles.
Well during these 3 months, I got hit twice by some car that was changing lanes without looking. Not my fault but damn it fucking hurts.
I'm not traumatized or anything but the first time was a light impact, I got lucky as fuck, only light pain in my right foot. Today though, I got hit pretty hard, same context only it was in the highway. Broke two toes. Got even luckier, thank God cause some witness told I went under some car at a point.
Me I'm not scared in the slightest, I need to be more careful but everyone I talked to since then told me to stop riding. Even my brother who's pretty much like me.

I never provoked or nearly prokoked any accident. But people man... It's too much, I was telling earlier how everyday I dodge a bullet from some unatentive driver. And in Brussels, it's like this problem is doubled.

Any experience to share, I'm writing bc I just got home for hours spent at the hospital and I needed to vent while I'm waiting for my sushis.
My bike is dead too...
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>>29147797
I put this in Google Gemini and it says you should stop riding
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>>29147805
Fuck. Any human opinions though?
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it's crazy how much different a 185 kg baiku feels than a 2015 kg one. I'm out of shape, I know, but more the reason to look bigger bikes for a bigger guy...
but they just feel so intimidating. Lighter baikus are so much friendlier.
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>>29147836
I've might added an extra 0 somewhere in that post
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>>29147797
Yes I think pretty firmly it's time to stop.
Some people don't have the right mind for biking. You shouldn't have this many accidents already.

I ride everyday all year round and don't have any hairy stories. I've ridden in Brussels... no different to anywhere else in NW Europe. This is all on you
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>>29147797
You sound too young. Stop riding in traffic for a while, couple years. Come out for a ride after evening rush hour.
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>>29147852
>I've ridden in Brussels... no different to anywhere else in NW Europe.
NTA but that's not true. I've done several hundred thousand kms on a car with no accidents in different european countries but once I got to Belgium I got rear ended by a brussels parliament member (or whatever, he had a sign under his windshield) on a red light. They are a mix of d*tch and fr*nch people sprinkled with plenty of niggers, what more would you expect from them? I'd not ride a motorcycle there, at best a maxi scooter.
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>>29147864
have you ridden in the balkans? if so how is it there?
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>>29147866
I honestly didn't, I just started riding. But I did drive in eastern europe including Ukraine, Moldova etc. and also some hardmode islands like Sicily and Sardinia. I would not ride a motorcycle there as well, however I know a lot of people would.
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>>29147797
I want you to know that I didn't read your post.
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>>29147866
>have you ridden in the balkans? if so how is it there?
I did. Drivers are chill in the city, but God forbid there is a 3 minute long jam they lose patience immediately. Outside of city, feels like nobody knows how to drive, they've put roundabouts everywhere so it would be easier to Golf I and 1957 Lamborgini tractor drivers to remember rules, but they still fly into the roundabouts full throttle without giving way. White line is a suggestion if it's a turn - you better expect incoming traffic swerve half a car into your lane. Also "I turn left, everything else is your problem" is very much a thing.
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>>29145936
I just got mine running after four years. Had to rebuild the fuel pump largely due to bad gas. Tires were definitely bad. New battery and an oil change. Good once over, then get at it. Take it easy the first several rides.
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Dualsports really don't lose value do they? Seems like 3-4k is where they all bottom out in value more or less, no matter the age
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>>29147910
They're kinda the most usable around town honestly
Yeah they only have 1 cylinder but even a 250cc single can do 60mph no problem plus you can strap shit to the back. And small/agile
Street bikes are fast but there just aren't many situations where you get to use it nor is there room to put shit
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>>29147923
>They're kinda the most usable around town honestly
Very american take. Like holy shit what a retard.
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>>29147932
Tell the class why I'm wrong then
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anyone here got a recent Enfield?
I'm considering the new Himalayan, but scared because it's not made in Nippon
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>>29147942
NTA but I agree you're kinda stupid. Dual sports have very large front wheel = large turn radius. They are also very wide at handlebars and tall. Nothing about them says "nimble machine for town". Their use is "struggle at highway for 100 miles to get to the 30 mile trail that leads to a fishing spot".

For the "I have an expendable income and midlife crisis so I need to tour the country/union" you would want ADV fridge with plenty of highway power.
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>>29145936
Change brake fluid, check gas tank state, check coolant level if you have it. If there are any flakes in fuel tank - siphon old gas off, rinse with acetone/kerosine, put new gas one in. Change fuel filter if you can reach it easily. Clean & lube the chain properly. Charge battery, ensure it doesn't lose V overnight. Bike might crank right now but give up due to low charge later.
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>>29147478
Oh yeah well I sentence you to Detroit!
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>>29147942
Dual sports are great for around town, especially supermotos. I don't know what they're talking about.
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>>29147932
>very american take
The "american" take would be saying that a dual sport would just get you killed because it's less than 1000cc, americans just live rent free in your head for some reason
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>>29147963
They weigh nothing and turn extremely well, you don't ride.
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Daily reminder that nakeds and hyper nakeds are the supreme choice.
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>>29148045
Yes
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>>29148045
sorry I'm a duel sport chad
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>>29148055
Post tummy I'm horny af right now, suzuki
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>>29147942
I agree with him that it's a very american take. Their geometry is just not quite it for a dense town. Road surface deformations and sidewind are more likely to push you onto another car inches from you than if you were on a basic bitch naked. Still I haven't really had big issues with a dualie as I don't care about minmaxing stuff.

And saying you don't get to use extra power is cope, this snail shit needs to stop.
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>noooooooooo you need $130 special tool to hold damper in place while you unbolt it
>carve a $10 piece of wood with a chisel and a kabar

TOTAL OILY STICK VICTORY
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>>29148173
>sidewind are more likely to push you onto another car inches from you
>anon is made of tissue paper
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>>29148045
Love my bike to death but absolutely hate that it’s naked
I do not get the appeal of fighting wind blast any time you decide to ride faster than 60mph, my neck hurts
Maybe it’s just a tall guy thing where you guys have to fight the wind anyways so you never got the benefit of a windshield
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>>29148045
Like my women like my bikes.
Naked, less than 6 years old.
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>>29148175
Nah I'm fat. But where I live days with 20 m/s or stronger winds are not uncommon.
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>>29148203
You're supposed to put your choice of smallish windshield on the naked.
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For me its croozin at 35 mph and enjoying the road the fresh air and the scenery
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>>29147797
I won't say stop, but ride responsibly, and if you can't, then stop.
Put more space between you and people in the next lane. People change lanes without looking, it happens regularly, just make sure you have room to evade. (i.e. be on the other side of the lane, and try to avoid riding alongside cars in the other lane)
And chill on lane filtering. You'll feel like shit if you break somebody's mirror. The legal limit here (Australia) is 30 kph, even though I filter at up to 50. Don't push narrow gaps. You can, in 99.9% of situations, afford to wait a bit.

It's not so much about 'provoking' an accident as being ready for the dumb shit people do. They just do dumb shit occasionally, it's not your fault. Your job is to give yourself the space to react to the dumb shit that people do, mainly changing lanes without looking. I've ridden for about 4 years, it happens a lot. Keep your distance from cars and ideally have somewhere you can swerve to.

Speeding is awesome, I don't do it much because of the cops, but it's the least of your problems. Be aware, have a way to escape if drivers fuck up, that's the bigger part of safety.
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>>29148240
Addendum: try to keep a good following distance too. Most people follow too closely. Way more people will merge in front of you, and that is fine. Give yourself enough room to brake if the guy in front of you brakes suddenly. Speed if you want, but never tailgate.
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>>29148229
>One hand on throttle
>Eagle 20 in the other
God I love scootin'!
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its been nice riding weather FLbros
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>>29148042
>turn extremely well
You can dance well on stills too. Doesn't mean dancing shoes wouldn't be better. Naming them "dancing stilts" is still retarded.
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>>29148045
How do you do, fellow nakeds?
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>>29148174
I just let reluctor wheel chew on my least favorite screwdriver' plastic butt instead of buying picrelated
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>>29148240
>>29148245
Good posts.
I'd also add, just because I'm extra careful: before making a maneuver, think of everything that could go wrong during the maneuver and is the location you're going to be after the maneuver safe enough that nothing else could be there by the time you've finished your maneuver? (I.e. who's gonna crash into you whilst making a move, and is anybody gonna make the same move as you?)
This approach has lost me lots of time on my bike and in my car, but keeps me safe.
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Any crashes stories. Got my second one yesterday, got out with two broken toes thank God. But now I'm bored at home.
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>>29148203
I've been considering a naked for my next bike but the lack of good looking tall windscreens are killing me. I already have a bike with a tiny windscreen and it sucks for winter.
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>>29148301
Ive hit the same sport on my right arm in every crash and somehow thats the only place I've injured in 4 years. I have over laying scars.
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>>29148203
I am 5' 9" and the wind really isnt an issue. Maybe stop being a pussy?
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>>29148203
It doesn't get windy until 90mph, unless you're a huge fat sack of shit
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>>29148045
Nakeds are for sunday riders and people who live their whole life in concrete jungle. They are the cheap ticket to fun, but not the truly good ticket. So they are based but never the supreme choice.
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Dual sports are the absolute chad of motorcycles
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>>29148301
"Huh the people on the internet say I have way more grip in the rain than I think I do ..."
>concussion time

lowsided at a roundabout. Little damage to anything except my head, which was saved by my helmet, but also I was wearing a half-helmet that didn't really fit my head-shape and I think that fucked me up. (It was too tight side-to-side, I think it squeezed my head in when I crashed)
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>>29148203
I have two nakeds (and I'm 5'11, but I have a tiny fucking torso so I'm basically 5'7" for how far I stick up on a motorbike) and the one with bar-end mirrors is the best. I have tried putting windscreens on them. One benefited from it, because of the big old mirrors that start buffetting at about 80 mph. The other one just doesn't, a clear air stream without perturbations are just not bad at all. That bike has nothing to upset the airflow before it hits you, and it got worse with a windshield.
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>>29148339
Reddit of motorcycles more like
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>>29148339
Just picked up a DRZ4S as my first real bike. Spending today exploring some fire roads.
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>>29148215
Looking at getting one soon, a guy on the mountain has the same model as me. Says the windscreen doesn’t do much but he can get about 10mph faster without feeling like the wind is beating him up
>>29148302
They perform best in a canyon, the extra visibility really helps you focus on the ride imo
>>29148328
>>29148329
I’m 5’5” and 125lbs, I’ve figured out the whole lean forward into the wind thing but it really doesn’t help all that much as far as comfort goes. Having to adjust your seating position all the time is obnoxious
>>29148369
I’ve heard this before and it’s true but it’s also a flaw of the naked design
>>29148339
Trvke
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>>29148417
I mostly just commute and want to be able to daily through a city to work and occasionally do 3hour trips. I have no idea if a naked really is comfortable with that.
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>>29148339
You know what I agree. For all the things they suck at, they still can be put to any task, because most problems can be compensated for if you're just tough enough yourself.
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>>29148335
I went cross-country on a naked but sure.
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>>29148438
That’s because you’re a masochistic freak and also 12ft tall to where no windshield would have saved you anyways
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>>29148347
I keep an eye on the US Gov. helmet test program, it's always the half-helmets that fail. The manufacturers know that they are selling to people who want to pretend they aren't wearing a helmet at all and they make the helmets to suit. The 3/4 helmets do as well as the full-face helmets, if you don't want a helmet in your face get one of those.
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>>29148440
......not wrong.
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>>29148215
What a beauty
>>29148203
Yeah I nonly rode mine which is a naked bike so I never got any point of comparison. But I went to Morroco a few weeks ago and rode my uncle's GS 1200. Ngl, it completly changed my opinion on the importance of comfort.
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>>29148347
You do have way more grip in the rain than you think you do, lap times in the wet are only about ten percent slower than lap times in the dry.
What tires do you have on your motorcycle?
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>>29148301
You just posted that already yesterday.
Heed your warning, give up biking and stop hanging around here.
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>>29148477
Yeah. Lap times. On a maintained track. Where they have fresh, wet compound preheated tyres.
Genuinely dangerous thing to be telling people to try it on the road.
Someone with a beat up ER6 on original fork oil with 1mm of tread on 7yo tyres on a public road with metal gratings, white lines and spilled diesel won't have half the grip you think they do.
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>>29148438
You CAN, but it's not muh 'supreme choice'. Most people with nakeds get something else once they want to do something more serious than ripping around town.
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>>29148469
Yeah the comparison thing is real. I wondered how people toured on nakeds till I realised that's all they ever known.
>>29148335
Basically. My 'fun' rides are usually 200-300 miles in a day riding some far-ish away good biking roads.
I've tried it on my naked bike and I feel physically drained. Even more so in the winter.
Funnily, the only times I've been stung by a bee while riding have been on nakeds.

I choose sportbikes for their fairing and weather protection. You still have totally clean undisturbed air on your head, but your chest and shoulders are protected from the wind and bugs. ADVs are too old man for me. I've heard ADV and tall-tourers don't cut through the wind so well because their windshields are like pushing a barn door through the air creating lots of turbulent air to your helmet.
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>>29148498
I did and then I went back to a naked because I hated how big and heavy the bike was.
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>>29147943
2023 himalayan scram 411 here in CA. Whats up?
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>>29148495
>someone on an unmaintained bike with dogshit tires is worse off
Yeah thanks for that genius, who knew
>road hazards reduce grip
Just mind blowing information here
You have more grip in the wet than you think you do.
https://www.femamotorcycling.eu/safer-roads-for-motorcycles/road-surface-friction/
Gives diesel spill coefficient of friction at .3, which at worse implies a maximum lean angle of 17 degrees. So even if riding in the rain was exactly like riding on a road covered in diesel (it isn't) you'd still have nearly 20 degrees of lean to work with - it's actually better than this, since motorcycles lean further than the naive tan(angle)=friction calculation would suggest.
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>>29148534
happy with it thus far? build quality and reliability?
does the air/oil cooled engine run too hot sometimes in Cali?
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>>29148507
Im physically drained on sport bikes after a while. Being hunched over like your waiting for backshots from your boyfriend fucking sucks.
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>>29148545
Any bike is going to run hot in summer idling. California has lanesplitting to alleviate that.
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Was raining for three days straight and is gonna continue doing that until the weekend, and then probably rain again. Also -1°C under the rain in the night, thanks you piece of shit.
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>>29147969
That is infinitely better in every single way than China. Dumb bitch.
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>>29148578
Then enjoy detroit. IN THE 1980S!
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>>29148532
While I don't like heavy bikes either, gutted out featherweights are just not stable enough for my tastes usually. Sweetspot for me currently is having a sporty-ish bike with only front fairings and just slightly aggressive ergos. E.g. stuff like Fazer and SV.

Embracing wind blast feels kind of right but getting worn out and gradually freezing without a chance to fight against it is not something I can really call enjoyable.
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>>29148347
I nearly hadderlayerdown at an intersection this morning, my r3 managed to break the rear wheel loose setting off

I really need to do some research on the true limits of grip in the rain
Maybe there is a good rule of thumb to never exceed 80% of the limit of grip in the rain
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>>29148576
There will be a break in the rain for you surely, just keep an eye out
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>>29148608
I could see myself on something like a vfr eventually but never again a big heavy ADV.
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Probably the last ride of the season... I need to move to a 2 season climate.
What the hell was Harley thinking rebranding an RE? Normies don't know single air cooled bikes don't make high hp. Why not do what Yamaha did with 300-400 Vtwin, they couldn't have just made a mini iron 883 engine and slapped it into a generic frame?
>>29148301
Just don't lane split just do lane filtering stop speeding, its that simple. If you lack self control then get off the bike.
Fear humbles people, when you stop fearing, you will eventually become arrogant, and this is where you make mistakes.
>>29148611
Getting rained on sucks, but I noticed little difference from dry.
The first rain is the worst since all the oils get moved around.
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>>29148608
Wear the right gear and the cold does not matter.
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>>29148629
Does for your face. Or at least for me thats the case. Face is cold, pinlock fogged, and somehow my neck is cold even with a scarf.
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>>29148624
>What the hell was Harley thinking rebranding an RE?
Do what now?
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>>29148629
NTA I have proper touring Alpinestars Andes V3 pants, waterproof and windproof, with ratings and everything. And then I also wear my thermal pants underneath. Yet the top parts of my thighs get cold no matter what just because the wind moves along them for several hours. Any tips?
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>>29148640
Hero motorcycles has been making a Harley Davidson for the Indian market for a couple years now.
RE has no contracts with HD and is one of their main competitors.

The Indian version is better than export version, because HD thought about shrinking the tank for looks and bullshitting the fuel consumption.
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>>29148645
Okay so i got around that actually. There are 3m insulation leg wraps that just work under my ilm insulated pants.
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>>29147943
It works fine.
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>>29148635
Wear a wind blocking balaclava that covers the neck. You can get one for $15. Idk how that wasn't your first choice.
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Why on earth would you want to buy indian made bikes? Are you insane? There are plenty of used japanese and european bikes that are simply better in every way.
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>>29148651
I already wear a balaclava but it isn't warm enoughand causes the helmet fog.
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>>29148635
>pinlock fogged
the whole point of the pinlock is that it doesnt fog.
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>>29148556
Are you old, fat or both?
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>>29148666
They REDUCE fogging significantly but usually don't eliminate it. I still have to pop my visor open just a crack.
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>>29148654
I love that cream colour, it looks great with red and black
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>>29148671
NTA but even a low handlebar ends up putting more weight in my wrists than I want for very long rides, even with using my core to hold me up.
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>>29148629
I have proper gear for the cold but when it's barely above freezing temperature I still wouldn't be able to realistically tolerate it for more than an hour in one go. And bear in mind the weather can always get worse, never underestimate the power of nature.
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>>29148640
>>29148646
HD always sacrifices for looks, I don't blame them.
At least it isn't a new piss twin.
>>29148654
Royal Enfields look nice, I almost grabbed a Super Meteor 650 Astral Black(looks like a warm grey) with full bags, upgraded seats, and bang bar included for like $7500 otd.
Their parts distribution is bad in the USA and I read a lot of people were out of their bike for months even under warranty.
Also most Jap bikes have no SOVL.
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Would a DR650 be too much bike for my first? Someone is selling a 2004 for $1800 and it seems in good shape but I am worried its too much
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>>29148690
That's about the slowest 650 that exists, if you're tall and it's not horribly clapped then it's an excellent motorcycle. Be warned that it is going to be harder to learn to ride really technical off-road with a bike that heavy, but for gravel roads and ATV/jeep trails it's great. Your biggest concerns will be aging rubber parts.
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>>29148722
5 foot 9 or 10 on a good day, mostly torso tho.
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>>29148545
Very happy, I got it as a beginner second hand about a year and a half ago. Keep in mind my opinions will be specific to the air cooled himi. It is great at everything except going on California interstates for more than 20 or 30 minutes. But seriously how often do I do that? I never had any non-self inflicted reliability issues. They are known for throwing up the check engine light often, but everyone just ignores it because it is mostly the EVAP sensors freaking out from the vibrations lol.

I never actually had the engine shut off, misfire, or knock due to the heat. But, if you have been running it hot and then stop, the engine and starter might stutter during restart. It will start, just sputter and reset the clock lol. Parts are easy enough to find as long as you are flexible with sources. Baxter Cycles is the best in the USA, but Hitchcock ships cheaply. A whole engine shipped from India is only 800 bucks lol. Ask any other questions you have, keep in mind the 650, 450, and new 750s have fixed most of these problems and cruise happily at 75 mph with overtaking power to spare. Known issues for the brand in general: overtorqued swing arm mount making it squeaky, some older ones had shitty headlight mounts, waayyyy to much contact grease on relays and plugs, swing arm marks for chain tightening are useless. Oh yeah, and get comfy with valve adjustments. They dont actually wander that much but best to keep an eye. What are you looking to buy?
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>>29148724
>5 foot 9
too tall, wheres the triumph twinkster still waiting on tummy pics
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>>29148724
You'll probably have to one-foot it but you'll be OK. Lower the preload as much as possible to start with, and it's ok to take the seat cover off and remove some foam. You're the ideal height for a lot of bikes but most dualsports are not among those.
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>>29148690
pretty reasonable first bike, you wanna be able to go on the highway if you want to with some breathing room.
dual sports are also more immune to drops



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