>>2820483
Have fun bro, it's going to be way more awesome than you imagine.

t. Bike hobo

Good on you. Tell us more.

We all have at least the potential to make more money in the future, we can never go back and recapture time that is now gone.

What if you get too cold?

What if tweakers attack your tent with a baseball bat?

What if you get tired?

How will you pay for food?

Where will you store all the toilet paper you need on long routes?

what? have you been on tour for in countries already and are planning to go to the US?

>>2820496
oh COUNTIES nevermind. dont rely on chatgpt for route suggestions would be my first advice, actually put in the effort to learn and research the places you're visiting, it'll be more fun and you'll get to more interesting places. never wild camped in the US but prioritize sneaky above nice. not all camp spots are gonna be magical with great views. actually a lot of the time on a very long tour they are just gonna be places to sleep.

>>2820499
Yeah chatgpt sucks ass, I swapped it for some other websites that show water sources and some nice bike paths. I’m just circling the cities and areas I know first, getting a feel for having my ass pounded by the seat, hoping i get used to pain and hunger before i set off into the Unknown Unknowns. I also have a small dilemma of wanting to learn more about new areas with research and prep beforehand vs. the feel of discovery and pleasant surprise. Hard to balance the two.


>>2820491
sleeping bag+jacket+staying in southern states come winter, i suppose

then I’m fucked, I am not a karate master, thats why stealth camping is the only possible option when in or near cities. Cities are just unfriendly towards homeless there’s no way around it

so far, on Test Day Number 2, I have to say, I think getting tired is just gonna be a constant. feel like the walking dead.

no idea im broke, spent my last monies on the damn bike

i have a small bag that has tp+wipes+bidet cap for water bottle on it. Panniers wouldve been legendary, but the ortlieb ones I wanted were 120 at REI and I don’t have 120

upding

turns out cycling with 40 Pounds Of Shit is pretty fucking hard jesus christ. didnt even go uphill any and im destroyed


if im going to be doing this big homeless adventure i might as well start a jewtube and use the laptop to edit. need to dump a few jackets, raincoats and i think my spare pair of boots. the cooking pan too.

>>2820562
I had a different experience I found it wasnt that different than normal cycling

You must be a pussy

>>2820562
Try a padded seat. They're cheap and they make a big difference over long distances.

>>2820483
Get a cross country cargo tricycle

>>2820509
leaves are natures free to, also just get free napkins at fast foods

>>2821402
Do I need wipes if I have a bidet?

>>2820483
>chatgpt

>>2820562
>with 40 Pounds Of Shit
Yeah the lighter the better

>>2820509
>>2821673
>bidet
Why?

>>2820483
Best of luck. How old are you currently? I myself wasted my youth jerking off, ERPing, coasting on grades, and not really caring about getting involved in anything. Wish I could say fuck it like you have and just go explore. What state are you starting out from?

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>>2820483
Based, this is always a fallback for me if everything else in life goes to shit. One of my good friends was really into bike packing and I wish I went along with him before he passed away. I might do some motocamping on my little 250. The main thing for me is it really fucking hurts my ass riding motorcycles or bikes. Definitely getting a padded seat or those padded butt underwear for bicycling those help me a lot. Definitely start a youtube and let us know. I will watch.

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>>2821798
Extremely early 30s in AL. Land is extremely flat but extremely hot and will only get worse as summer gets going, triple digits are a given. Your 30s and 40s are your last chance to have fun and explore before nkt being able to. I am a fat fuck but losing weight every day. yesterday I even didn’t jiggle when I jumped, and my moobs are all gone. only 40 more pounds till I’m in the 100s, its never too late bro just get a 200 dollar tent and ramen and go

>>2821847
I had to sell my 2nd laptop that I was using for editing at a pawn shop for money but that is ok. I will learn on the first shitty one. It is never too late. Every day I hate myself for not doing this earlier yet it quickly gets drowned by loving myself for finally doing it. It is hard and I am very hungry but I am alive.
Please buy a pair of used bike shorts and a padded saddle, they both saved my life because my ass was simply a giant flare of unbearable pain and now i’m big chilling.
>>2821180
this guy was correct

Why are 700C 38c tires used on gravel bikes? You literally can't ride through gravel safely on so thin a tire.

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doing full diy bikepack build. bike found in the dumpster, no brakes, no gear system (i'll just manually change it if i have to idc) live in ontario so shit is just mainly flat country roads.

basket build consists of a draining bowl thing, 3 hotdog skewers locked in with hose clamps. 30lbs weights as proof of concept. probably not going to carry anything heavier than that in it.

budged and bought a rear rack and i'm going to rig up some tarps for a frame bag and saddle bag type of thing.

yes it's retarded, yes i'm proud of it and excited to adventure on it.

just got this bad boi for the price of free.99 so planning to kit it out to bikepack. im employed currently, but i forsee a major calamity on the horizon (next year for sure, its been too long) so been looking into the vagrant life style. maybe fuck around and pedal my ass up north, then west. maybe end up in alaska, who knows. gonna try to get a go pro and make some videos, get a channel going. ifd i can pull down a couple grand a month off videos and patreon, get a sponsorship, i could probably ride till i die on the side of some backroad.

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>>2822512
pic didnt upload

>>2820483
>Stopped being neet after rewatching KLK
What's that?

What do you do for money? What type of food do you buy and eat? Where do you sleep?

>>2822513
nice bike anon.
Make sure you practice bike repair skills before he head off.

>>2822505
This is based and adventurepilled, but please have a local wrenchmonkey look over the thing and make sure it's safe

>>2822521
an anime about youth.

right now i dont do anything for money, im living off savings, but when that's gone i will just have to hope and pray that the YT channel is popular.

for food its prepacked ramen/gas station pastries/occasional sandwiches if i can find a gas station that has them

for sleep its wherever my tent is, man

>>2822673
Alright link us

>>2822673
>when that's gone i will just have to hope and pray

Lol
Thats how you know its a good plan

>>2822672
it'll be all good. i've had this bike kicking around for about a year or two now and i've done a full service relubing bearings, trueing tires and what not. i used to flip bikes like this all of the time when since i was 12 on kijiji (leaftard craigslist)

super pumped up to get out there. probably going next week on a trial 40km trip, i'll record a little vid and send it here if thread is still kicking.

>>2822759
>>2822672
also as a side note to anyone curious, this is the underside of that basket. totally just winged it until it felt sturdy with my hand. this setup will run you about $13. $3 draining basket, $4 skewers, 3 $2 hose clamps

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>>2822774
im retarded and didnt post pic

>>2822775
idk whether this is schizo or creative genius but if it works it works

>>2822775
Worst case scenario it comes off, falls in your fork, locks up, you go head over the bars, break your neck, and spend the rest of your life shitting in a bag. But at least you saved the $7.48 more that a real bike basket would have cost.

>>2822813
that's true and i'll go to the grave for that $7.48

>>2822673
>an anime about youth.
brother, I don't think spending your savings on being a vagabond is a wise decision. I know our society is a current hell. It's better to look for work overseas and try starting a life there.

I'm a drifter, although I usually spend a lot of my summers in Mt.Shasta and winters in Oregon.
I highly recommend falling into a good friend group of 3-4 more travelers all in your same wavelength and with the same traveling goals as you, it'll turn any journey into a life-changing adventure that people won't believe when you tell them it. Stay away from South California.

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>>2822818
As long as you go happy anon that is more than many can hope for. In all seriousness though, be careful and I apologize for my original snarkiness. Here’s a cute monkey to go with my apology.

The front wheel fell off my bike. Took it back to REI and told them to swap it out for a mountain bike because A) wheel fucking fell off and B) the drop bars hurt my back.


Thank FUCK I paid for the membership or I’d be so unbelievably fucked you guys dont even know. I dont have rich people money to throw at bikes.

>>2822941
It’s not technically “wise”, but it’s my only option, I feel. I already waited 4 years for the government to deny my SSDI application. Nobody is hiring for even entry level jobs doing dirty laundry at a hotel or wageslaving at goddamn Amazon Warehouse. This is the play, mang. I’m going to travel to every single state without paying for gas. There HAS to be a job out there somewhere that a no-college former NEET can do. Hell I think people seasonally hire shepherds in Arizona or something. Think I heard of some farm work in exchange for pay and room thing somewhere on Plebbit. Not sure what it’s called but that’d be perfect, these past few weeks losing 40 pounds and getting outside reminded me how much I love nature


This is the only way a poor can provide for himself man, I really believe that. Dont have enough for a plane ticket, it’s do this, keep posting on YT, and pray to whoever is listening that it works

>>2822958
From my limited experience and from reading books; this sounds like a good way to get analed. And not from a cute femboy or a hot tranny. Stealth camping is the way man, you never know who’s a tweaker and who’s a traveling raper. Not even joking, I got fooled by the smallest cutest little lady outside a gas station. Alone is the way.

>>2823461
>I already waited 4 years for the government to deny my SSDI application.
Is this federal or do different states have different policies?
>Nobody is hiring for even entry level jobs doing dirty laundry at a hotel or wageslaving at goddamn Amazon Warehouse.
I know.
It is hell.
I face the same issue.
You apply for an entry level job that requires no experience, then they ask you if you have any experience to which you say no. Then they happen to hire someone who happens to have 10 years experience for that role (which pays minimum wage).
This society sucks.

However spending your savings biking around is going to put you into a really deep hole when your money runs out. Are there no recruitment agencies that you can apply to? Have you tried going to a church, community center or volunteer group? Don't get me wrong, I'm not christian, but many of them have food banks which can help you out with food and it's good to have some connections that may help you to get into work.

You can even join groups that are helping "ethnic" or "minority" people. By law they cannot discriminate against other races. Ages ago, I joined a Chinese one, they created a CV for me and helped me get a job, even though I'm not Asian.

PLEASE set aside enough money to buy a bus or plane ticket back to your parents house if an emergency happens. Stay safe out there anon.

>>2823461
>From my limited experience and from reading books; this sounds like a good way to get analed. And not from a cute femboy or a hot tranny. Stealth camping is the way man, you never know who’s a tweaker and who’s a traveling raper. Not even joking, I got fooled by the smallest cutest little lady outside a gas station. Alone is the way.
You will get over this, my brother traveled far longer than me as a lone wolf and I only recently got him to open up to the traveling communities this last year. There's a lot of very good, if not superior people on the road. I spent a summer camping with a guy named CK who couldn't move without his body being in constant pain. He lived in the spot for about 3 years and had a deal with forestry. As long as you aren't a twink nobody is going to fuck with you, guys have a much safer time on the road. I've been working on a book about my experiences specifically because other people's books are full of bullshit, if I'd recommend one you try Hobo Sapien.

>>2820483
Stealth camp in a tent? Find some bushes and put down the sleeping bag. Always worked for me. Slept in some bushes next to a McDonald's drive thru, in the edge of a train yard, on top of sprinklers next to town hall (who needs an alarm clock?) ninja camping is easy, just don't over think it and wake up with the sun

>>2823466
never know who’s a fucking creep man. Or a thief

And not even other travelers or native homeless, what most scares me is the zogbot pigs. One of then absolutely trashed an old man’s tent in Shelby County for absolutely no reason, guy was “giving him sass” and he felt threatened as a 250+ pound guy with a gun taser and stick, so he destroyed his living space. Consequence-free. I’ve been sleeping in random tree-d spots and behind industrial parks just to get away from humans, man, can’t see myself getting over it and just trusting anyone that smiles at me. We’ll see…maybe….


>>2823465
Federal, you’re thinking of food stamps/EBT as the state by stte thing. Which I could also use, except the registration is months long, and since their methods are outdated, if you go on Plebbit the entire subreddit is filled with stories of people having their benefits stolen automatically as soon as they’re filled, with no refunds or recourse. There is no social safety net in this country.
I have tried all of those things; most church groups only help women and kids OR just want to use homeless for free labor setting up tents in their megachurch parking lot in exchange for one(1) stale Pb/J. at least in my experience, the temp agencies just wanted to take half a minimum wage paycheck which wouldnt even leave me anything to save up long term after food/hygiene costs, and most local community centers/food banks have been closed courtesy of Kay Ivey. Or Reagan. Or going back far enough, the industrial revolution, but suffice it to say if you’re a poor male in america dont think anyone gives two shits about you, race/religion/mental health state are all irrelevant when it comes to poverty.
I do have 300 that I plan to use for emergencies only, but my surviving prent will be meeting Death soon and is in no shape physically or financially to care for a neet anyway. It’s time to take the baby bird route and either fly or die


appreciate the well wishes brother

>>2823461
Anon from >>2822505 here. I'm a piss poor, on welfare 28 year old degenerate here. Idk where you live but the drifter life here is not feasible in the winter. The summers are time to bust your ass. I don't know if you live near farm land - but corn detasseling is a piss easy way to get work and get free rides to and from work at drop off points (they'll put you on the bus with all of the immigrants to pull shit out of cornfields) for like 5 hours a day sometimes more. You can live a drifter life while accumulating funds like this between towns - corn crews are always hiring.

>>2820509
>I think getting tired is just gonna be a constant. feel like the walking dead.
>>2820562
>turns out cycling with 40 Pounds Of Shit is pretty fucking hard jesus christ. didnt even go uphill any and im destroyed
If you're seriously planning to cycle through the entire country then you need to go the fuck back home and spend at least 6 months training. If this is the state you're in pedaling over flat ground in mid-80 degree weather then you're going to be completely fucked going up the very many hills and mountains in the country, or in actual hot weather.

>>2823472
There's no such thing as "native homeless", they're called homebums and they're harmless drug addicts. The only dangerous homebums are in places like Atlanta and New Orleans. You have no business being in those places ever, and should just avoid them. I've never had a bad experience with other travelers and I hitchhiked a whole circuit through the US multiple times. The only dangerous people I've seen have been normalfags and bikers, and they're very easy to avoid. Unless you're some kind of troon or faggot you'll be fine anywhere, you talk like a city slicker and I'd work on that first and foremost.

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Im more interested in dying on my bike but thats cool op

>>2823483
This. You should be able to breeze 15 miles, or you're off to a very bad start.

>>2824596
Why? The point is to live on the bike not to make × many miles a day to complete line on map in × amount of time

>>2823472
learn to do basic bike maintenance before leaving to your journey
you are gonna have a lot better time if you understand the basics and dont have to rely on mechanics and you save a lot of money in the process
get some spares to carry for the parts that wear or at least figure out what models your bike uses so if it comes down to it, you know what to look for

>>2824598
So your plan is to sit in one general area and be a hobo? Just toss the bike dude and be homeless in a city like everyone else at that point.

>>2824662
If your not riding in a straight line across the country doing at least x many miles a day then you should be homeless in a city? This is what you think? Why can't someone just go 15 miles down the road and spend a week fishing on a river and only do like 60 miles a month going along the river and then go a few hundred miles to somewhere else to do something else?

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I'm thinking about doing part of the Appalachian Trail and if I like that, maybe upgrade to bike camping.
Like OP, I basically want to live outside like a bum so my only cost is food.
The question I came here to ask is, do you think it is feasible to do bike camping with an e-bike and have the battery bank in a backpack that I carry into a McDondalds and stealth charge over half an hour to an hour?
I haven't really done my research on ebike battery chargers as you can probably tell, but it seems to me that it would be extremely hard to travel with only man-power especially in mountainous areas.

>>2824684
Listen, behind soda vending machines is a hollow space usually next to an electric outlet, you can put your battery and charger inside this hollow overnight while it's plugged in and it will charge your stuff secretly so you don't have to spend 6 hours inside a McDonald's,also mountains are small, you will have like 7 miles of steep incline at most, you can walk that in three hours with a good break at the halfway point then you just roll down the mountain although I've had headwinds so strong I needed to pedal down mountains before, it's easy stuff especially when you are not pressed for time

>>2824689
>behind soda vending machines is a hollow space usually next to an electric outlet
This is an insane tip, thanks anon. No idea how you discovered this.
I asked chatgpt if I can charge a 1kw battery in under an hour and it said I could with special batteries and a special charger.
Your method seems better, but I don't know if every town has an outdoor vending machine.

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OPfag here

>>2824662
I am out of shape, but I’m losing weight daily. I went from a pound a week to 2 or 3 pounds a week and can finally call myself not fat, now. I don’t jiggle when I jump except for under my arms and I no longer have mini-moobs. Highly recommend bicycling to anyone, vagabond-ing it or no.


That said,>>2824667
>>2824598 is correct. I am not a lycra warrior racing rich WASPS on Strava. I have a hardtail and a dream, but don’t need speed at all. I am heading vaguely west in search of employment but it’s not a now or never situation, my water filter and some ramen’s keeping me alive.

Also, ebikes are retarded and for lazy losers. Please do not try to larp-travel with a HEAVY, FLAMMABLE battery inside your bicycle because going uphill is hard. It’s gonna be hard no matter what but removing the challenge is just going to cheat yourself. Also ebikes are shit and break within months. Yes, even the expensive ones. No, you can’t just take the electric stuff off and ride normally. And no, you can’t unplug random ice machines or vending machines to charge unless your dumbass wants to get robbed by gas station zombies or worse, robbed by cops. Don’t be a fucking dumbass. >>2824684
I hate non- /out/ larpers. Spend a few werkends first pedaling a normal bicycle and get used to that before committing. I didn’t do that, so the muscle soreness is beating my ass, but it’ll get better slowly over time. If you are dedicated and not actually a larper, it behooves you to practice and get comfortable with hauling weight over long periods of time while you have a home and place to recover.
>>2824652
this guy was right, i applied for a temp agency last week and hve an orientation later this week precisely because I need to buy some tools I didn’t know I needed as well as some puncture resistant tires.

>>2820509
tins of sardines are compact and cheap asf

>>2824699
you're just mad cuz you can't afford an ebike

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I would say to check /n/ and link you sources, but I don’t want to waste effort on a fat fuck. We are all poor and jealous. You’re right. Go buy an ebike. It’s a great idea. You won’t regret it.

Props if you can actually do it long term. I'm a camping hobo myself but I have an old f150. I have 3 different tents for the conditions, a few Walmart tarps and 2 actual good tarps. I carry 5 gallons of propane, 3 different sleeping bags, and a 35 gallon ice chest. Tons of different clothes, a medicine cabinet, you get the picture. I've been downsizing my gear the whole time too, but also expanding for every situation.

I've been living in national forests and BLM land for years and I love it. But I would have lost my mind in the first few months if all I could take is what could fit in a bike pannier and trunk. At this point yes I can live on 2 pairs of pants. But 2 years ago it would have been almost impossible and even now I wouldn't want to do it.

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>>2820483
This is really cool, I very nearly did this a few years ago as a last resort, when suddenly I got offered a job and life went back to normal.
Do you have any cool pictures of places you've been? Do you still have plans to make that youtube channel?

>>2822941
don't shoot down the boys dreams hes basically in his last decade before this wouldn't be viable, I traveled the country out of my car which only lasted 2 months but I saw 30 states, that cost me 8 grand but I also spent more money than I needed to

>>2823461
you're delusional if you think rape as a male is a likely possibility so long as you don't go to jail, a huge small portion of homeless are raping people and most of them aren't traveling

>>2823465
>>2823472
theres gotta be temp jobs where you guys live, that and walmart is always hiring. I had basically no experience either and I scored a front desk hotel job recently but difference here is I had a dress shirt and faked looking professional, before that fast food or grocery was basically what i was looking at

>>2824707
this is the way to go, a car is a man's way into freedom you just need to have a reliable one, unfortunately you can only do this saving a lot of money first

>>2824699
your schizo paranoia about strangers is a definite weakness, bad people exist but most people are harmless

>>2824784
A car requires license and that's the opposite of freedom

I think it’s pretty cool I would watch your YouTube shit. My favorite channels have been solo sailing fags and van life fags and stuff like this.

I think you should have another angle to it though. Instead of just trying to live a man needs a goal. You should be trying to accomplish something as you travel. Fucking girls as a hobo would be an impressive display of charisma. Writing a book perhaps. Spreading some awareness. Just have some kind of higher purpose beyond existing imo

>>2824806
a license is not stopping you from being free, you're still on records even without one, the only part that is "unfree" is the price of gas and insurance. good luck biking 4000 miles up and down hill and not finding some other reason that completely halters your progress

I already know I couldn’t do this because I am not a sound enough sleeper. I would start looking all cracked out from lack of sleep. Plus a weakened immune system combined with wearing the same clothes often would probably lead to bacterial infections and shit.

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>>2824783
I actually failed this like, 200 fucking multi purpose question exam for a fucking stocker job at walmart.

Dont even get me started on being forced to talk to fucking AI to get a job as a dishwasher. Im just gonna be fully leaning on temp agencies for now as my email inbox is FULL of interviews and indeed apps that have gone nowhere, fuck those wasted months and fuck me.

>>2824784
a man's way to freedom is being tied into registration, paying for gas, and paying out the ass every time your sparkburetorinator breaks? not to mention the INSANE startup cost if i have no connections on a used beater?
no thanks, i will be my own man.

not sure what you mean about schizo paranoia though, isnt that just basic safety and being aware about my siuation

>>2824811
An angle, huh? A gimmick? Yeah that makes sense. But I am the first to admit I am not very creative. What's something that would make people click? Something to keep people walking? "some guy trying to work his way up from zero employment and zero prospects into a happy life" will not fit into a thumbnail and does not provide a cool story arc, i admit...

>>2824726
Funny enough, no. Everything just looks dreary and it's just abandoned downtown after abandoned city after gas station after crackhouses after abandoned steel mill. Part of that is just Bama, I suppose, but part of it is just being shite at navigation. I have just been recording boring cycling on the side of highway b roll and tent setup/sleeptime so far.

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>>2825052
I'm the anon you called a larper.
When it comes to purpose, I am going to make a hobo youtube channel, learn to play a ukulele or charango, and use a tablet to draw at night on comics. I already know how to program so I might also use the godot app on my tablet to make simple 2d pixel games as devlog content for youtube and maybe make some ad money.
The biggest problem with my "gimmicks" is the added weight and need for recharging electronics.
If anyone asks, why not do these in a comfortable house; I have a crippling addiction to doing random shit on my PC and I'm hoping hobo life is such a shock to my system that it's like a full system restore to my psyche. But, I might just have ADHD or something or be a loser.
>anyone here plz brainstorm more "gimmicks" I should try, I would appreciate

>>2825176
>I am going to
This is how you move forward from larp: never say I am going to. That shit fucked with me for years, and I kept putting it off and putting it off and suddenly I wake up and I've spent five fucking years playing league of legends conviniced that I was gonna be the next north american video games superstar. Just do stuff! Go out and start.

Now, as far as tablets, programming and such, you CAN do it, but you're gonna need to buy a few expensive power banks and also be near power outlets, which will limit where you can go, obviously. Probably gonna need to plug into a library or a hotel every 2 or 3 days, so keep that in mind.

Hobo Life, as you call it, is a shock to the system, yes, but it's also not a vacation. There's ticks outside. There's cagie drivers that think every bicycle rider is a target, because they are all retarded and talking to Shelley and Jamie on the phone about their next dunkin donuts trip. And, cant stress this enough, there's no air conditioning on the highway.

Please please PLEASE do an overnight trip in a tent, or 3 days in your local park's campgrounds, before just jumping full in.

I say this cause I jumped full in unprepared, and it's ruff. Do not do that.
If you have the mental fortitude to stick to learning music on a string instrument, as well as the initial capital to buy one, of course, playing music is a GREAT way to make money on the road. You're much more likely to get 20s and 50s thrown at you while playing some stupid boomer ACDC shit then you are just sitting on the exit of a highway holding up a shitty sharpie sign nobody can read anyway.


Best of luck becoming a non-larper my brother

>>2825177
Since you now have some experience on the road, OP. Do you have a method of sticking to roads which are 20mph or are you forced onto fast roads due to necessity.
Also, where have you been stealth camping?

>>2825177
Also, where do you take a shit when you are biking on a long stretch with no stores and no woods? Avoid the suburbs and stick to the country?

>>2825176
>gigantic post
>latches onto one single aspect involving youtube and only blabs about that and his autistic special interests
>even asks for spoonfeeding while contributing nothing


Fats must perish.

>>2825193
Honestly, I wouldn’t say I even have experience, I haven’t even left my starting state yet. I want to try and be able to do 30-40 miles a day first before I go into real unfamiliar territory. I’m not even close but as long as I have enough inhalers, maybe i’ll get there in a month or two?

As for paths, I’m really disappointed. Every single “bikepacking” youtuber seems to constantly be in nature or on gravel. There’s no decaying urban centers it’s just them and birdsong and trees and greenery. I haven’t been able to find anything but normal roads filled with drivers. If I can avoid an interstate or highway I will, but a couple times it’s taken me too long to find alternate routes, and it starts getting too dark to see, and cant set up my shitty walmart tent, and so i’ve ended up bicycling on the shoulder a few times and being scared shitless every time a tractor trailer goes by at 80 mph. Even railstottrails and adventure cycling say my state has like, ONE transamerican line that goes thru the very bottom of it, but otherwise nothing. very not fun so far.


Where I stealth camp: I stole this method from a youtuber, but basically you go on google maps, you look for green areas, then you switch to satellite and see if the green areas is flat (for the tent) and isolated (so no Karens see you go in there and call the cops).

If it’s not a random forested area it’s behind shopping centers in the loading dock area. I tried sleeping in an abandoned building ONCE but there was superspiders there and I nearly cried when one jumped on my hand as i was taking the tent down. never again


>>2825194
There are never any stretches without gas stations or random fast food joints. i just dip into arby’s. never mcdonalds tho mcdonald’s bathrooms are gross and their restaurants smell like grease


>>2825228
be nice

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>>2825229

>>2822672
Found the redditor pussy who thinks on bike shops can fix bikes

>>2822673
That’s why you’re tired and feel like shit. You need better food. Protein and all that jazz not foam noodles

>>2825229
sick of seeing your blog posts of larp. go outside or shut the fuck up fat fuck

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Around 3000km
Visited from Nantes to near Bayonne then headed to basque country at 10km of the spanish border but then headed back to Agen then Toulouse-Carcassone-Sete-Avignon-Lyon -Chalon sur Saône now i'm in Burgundy and heading back home.
I'm so glad i didn't think twice before doing it,just go ahead and bike you'll love it.

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>>2822775
anon here checking in again - i realized it's much easier to ride if your shit isn't all scattered across 2 bags. so now i have a dedicated snack pack and a gear pack. i crafted this bag out of 2 pairs of carpenter pants, scrap fabric and a pair of suspenders - total cost = $15

it's not totally finished as I need a way to cinch down the top, i'm thinking just some paracord wound through some holes like a gym bag? but i'm pretty proud of this little hack job. anything that gets the job done is good gear, bros

Tried it once, got my bike stolen along with a bunch of shit while sleeping. Had to get a flight home to my parents.

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>>2820483

> and retard tweakers dont do me like kevin nash in the summer of 92?

Meth is best part of bicycle camping. Also the weaker use fire.

I’m going to turn this thing into an ebike.

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>>2829483

>Also, TWEAKERS use fire

Fixed,

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>>2821961

I do.

>>2822505

$35 goodwill bike with $170 of equipment on it. New front tire and inner tube, new 70mm brake pads. I need to replace the back tire but I’m lazy.

>>2820483
Anon is badass.

>>2820483
Jealous desu, even though upward-sloping top tubes are gay. Also, I have that exact seat post bag, and am in the process of reinforcing it. Don't put any real weight in there

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>>2822505
Your front tire's on backwards
>>2820483
I should've read the whole thread before posting >>2830358
If you're having trouble riding a few dozen miles on flat terrain, you ABSOLUTELY have to work on your posture (besides fitness, of course). Nigger-rigging some aerobars, or simply adding a cushion (i've taped folded-up socks to my bars and it worked well) for your elbows in the middle of your handlebars is the equivalent to adding a supercharger to a car, in terms of the speed buff. Re-arranging your gear for a smaller frontal area would help as well.
Try to be a 90 degree rotated tear drop (pointy side back), your body/wallet will thank you

Sup guys, will be doing this starting next week for the foreseeable future. No money. Homeless for realzies.

Washington or California?

Very interesting thread and sorta of a fantasy of mine that I probably could never do because of freezing winters.
How do you guys do water? Filter or just boil and wait?

>>2820483
>How do I find good stealthcamp spots so cops don’t burn my tent and retard tweakers

Hobo here

This is where a bike comes handy, is you can camp in the forest several miles out of town

A lot of people bike highway 101 in oregon, the coastal highway

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>>2831194
Oregon coast is more hospitable than Washington or California coast. California is more expensive and diverse geographically accessable than Washington. Washington are PNW people and those people are rude. For no money California is more generous when begging.

>>2831957
>not taking hobo pill

imagine considering the cost of living for where you wish to live

lol, lmao

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I just opened this thread so I haven't read what was discussed before, but I was homeless and free on my bike for almost a year (9 months) and did week long trips many times before that. Ask away.

>>2832367
Why did you stop

>>2824781
Wtf are you doing spending 8 grand to do that? Gas?

>>2832367
How did you get food?

>>2832695
Not that anon but I used to work at a place that dumped 100lbs or more of good food every day

I bet theres 20 or 30 places in just this town alone that does that shit

Timing and knowledge and you'll be fat

>>2832705
are they keen to hand out said food to scruffy bums with, despite the lack of grooming has what seems to be to the normie's eye atleast 2 grand of hiking gear?
More concerningly, what about long stretches of road or wilderness or just the fact that you may not be as lucky to find places you're describing?

Good gear can sort out literally everything but food it seems like. Unless youre willing, able and legally allowed to hunt. And even then you'd be looking at nutrient deficiencies. And foraging in of itself is a whole different can of worms.
Fuck.

>>2820483
updates?

>>2832727
>lucky
Luck is one thing but you need skill, to have an eye for such things

Also nobody cares that you're a hobo, you must carry yourself respectfully and communicate as such as well. If you're expecting to be a screaming psycho and get things, get a new brain, a hobo is not a screaming psycho, that is a mental patient that America is neglecting. That is not a person looking for freedom. They need help. A hobo is much much different. Do NOT let the world mix these two groups in your mind.

As for long stretches, you need to be in very good shape. You are essentially a hunter gatherer and ought to behave as such. You need a lot of strength and endurance. In Utah/Nevada you can run into 300+ mile areas with no resources, if you can't ride 100 miles per day with a weeks worth of supplies after having studied the area intently, you should not attempt.

Study maps. Study weather. You need to be informed on what you're doing.

There are professional ways to be a hobo.

>tfw applying to jobs 500 miles away a month in advance
>currently doing landscaping in the desert, out working fucking everybody and ride my bike 10 miles there and 10 miles back every day
>try to choose spots within 5 miles of national forest/BLM land and planet fitness and grocery store
>etc

Be smart. It's a hard road but if it chooses you it chooses you. I won't live any other way.

>>2832727
also
>good gear
you little pussy

walmart provides all, son

if you cant do it in shitty blue jeans thats a problem of the soul

>>2828845
You can create anything from anything, you're truly amazing. I wish you can find a good path in your journey.

>>2832863
appreciate it anon <3 if anyone has any ideas for essential bikepacking shit that's typically pretty expensive i'd be happy to attempt a budget version with step by steps

>>2820483
Good thread. Update? How's it going anon?

>>2833600
I'm also curious

I am not the OP, but this is a good thread, and I don't want it to die, so I'm going to hijack it for its own good.

I was sold a carefree and fun lifestyle by influencers, and I feel cheated.

I got into biking. I gradually taught myself bike mechanics. I bought a wall-mart bike and fixed it up. That bike lasted two years.

I built my dream bike from scratch. I attached panniers and a rear rack. By this point, I've spent thousands on this hobby, including a tent, stove, and sleeping bag.

I love to bike. There's nothing I love more than biking, but I guess I'm a poser, because let me tell you something about bikepacking: It sucks.

Bikepacking sucks. It's the worst part of biking. I slept in the dirt with worms and voracious ticks. My tent one-man sucks, too. Don't buy the Lunar Solo. I'm 5'9" (yes inb4 manlet) and my head and toes rub the walls of the tent and accumulate condensation.

By the way, the solo doesn't come with poles or tent pegs, and you have to seal it yourself! I consider that to be an unfinished product.

I bought an MSR Dragonfly stove. You need to buy an additional grille to put on top of it, and a fuel bottle. It sounds like a jet and I swear it takes 20 minutes to boil water!

Everything is filthy. I wash my titanium pot and long spoon in purified water so that I don't get Giardia. The water is precious and it needs to be conserved, so nothing ever really gets clean.

Bear bags suck. Yes, we have bigass bears around here. You never really find a branch that can fit your bag. You hang your trash, too. Unless you want to go through all the work of hanging two bags, you usually end up hanging both right next to one another. Did I mention everything in this hobby is filthy?

...

>>2835426

I have about 65L of storage in my panniers and bags. It's not enough. At best you might be able to carry a sweater and an extra change of clothes. You're filthy, too.

What they don't tell you is that if you like to do gravel, you're going to beat the hell out of your bike, and it will require constant tuning. It's fine, I learned to maintain my bike because I built it myself, but it's still an annoyance at best. At worst, you're going to have to constantly sink money into replacement parts and labor.

Biking is not cheaper than driving. This is a myth. Everything is expensive and they really screw you on parts.

Let's talk about camp sites. I pitched last month and had a weird feeling while cooking my instant noodles. I look over my right shoulder and there's this old dude just standing on a hill staring down at me. He's probably jerking off. I had to pack back up again and move on because I was worried about security. I should really carry a gun.

Packing up every morning and pitching every night is a giant pain. It's not carefree at all. You always have to think about where your next pitch is going to be, and how much food and water you have left. You start to get anxiety about all these things.

You can't just filter any water. It has to be free from viruses and chemicals. Not everywhere has water sources like that, otherwise you're always going to be looking for the next gas station, and you're basically a car.

Do you want to know where gas stations and truck stops are? They're never in the nice areas. They're always in the ghetto. You will have food and water there, but you can't pitch there or else you're going to get raped.

Bikepacking is anything but carefree. I guess you can call me a poser and a larper, but it's actually not really fun. I can't believe I spent all this money on gear. I think this whole hobby is just peddled by influencers making money by selling gear. It's not feasible or fun.

...

>>2835427

I honestly think I'm going to quit bikepacking and just sleep in hotels from now on. Srsly. Even camping is fine. Staying in the same place for a couple days is easy. Moving on every morning sucks. It's tons of work. It's not fun.

Anyway, like I said, I'm not OP, but that's been my experience with bikepacking so far.

>>2835426
git gud

>>2835426
>>2835427
>>2835428
sounds like a you problem freaking out about being dirty and overly concerned about everything. it's not a carefree hobby because you care too much about sterilizing the experience out of it.

you lack the ingenuity and drive to explore and aren't willing to sacrifice some comfort for it. sucks, but it doesn't sound like it's for you.

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>>2824695
I want this bike if I was to ever live out of my bike

>>2835426
>>2835427
>muh 'dream bike'
>spent thousands
>overpriced meme gear
>'biking is not cheaper than driving
Anon I...
>anxiety over bugs
>food and water anxiety
>anxiety because someone is lookong at you
>Anxiety over dirt and germs
>cooking instant noodles
>'all my money I wasted!'

I dunno mate do you even /out/ at all?

It's ok if my only issues with this idea is that I don't know shit about maintaining bikes and sleeping with spiders and centipedes? I be able to learn on on the road about bikes isn't it?

>>2835458
I didnt know shit about bikes. Bring tools extra screws, tubes, lube and stuff like zipties when you have to be creative for a quick fix and you be forced to learn. Like the other anon said. Get someone who knows to give it a once over before you hit the road.

As for bugs. Just get a tent. I bought a two man for $50 and still holding up find two months in.

>>2835450

I am >>2835428

I looked into solar charging for ebikes.

It's not feasible. Based on my calculations, a portable solar panel will take about a week to charge an ebike battery, which will get you about 40 miles.

If you just focus on getting better at pedal biking, you can do 70 miles per day once your body has been conditioned, which will take a couple weeks.

I am >>2835426


>>2835435
You are a smelly hobo.

Germs are a real concern on the trail. Ticks are really nasty this year and lyme can be debilitating.

If you get Giardia on the trail, you're going to spend a week shitting yourself and vomiting.

Not to mention, you're going to have a hard time fitting back into society if you don't bathe.

>>2835462
>Just get a tent.
I do have a tent, but I least where I live animals seem to be attracted to tents, not sure if it is the heat that one radiates or the smell, so they try to get inside the tent. Snakes also tend to hide under them.

>>2835467
yeah snek do that and the parasitic bugs, so I've been told, actually follow the CO2 you exhale. But whatever it is, body odour, breath or heat, it's not really like you could do something about either of them.
But when you say 'animals' do you mean mammals? In my experience the only mammals who come to 'investigate' your tent are rabid ones and bears.

>>2831194
WA Anon reporting in, its fairly nice up here. The weather is temperate, the infrastructure and parks are well-maintained and the nature is glorious - lots of forest and mountains all through the Cascades, just avoid the flatlands East of the mountains during the summer months because it gets up above 100F. Puget Sound is a temperate 60-ish most of the year, though we do get a lot of rain. Wild blackberries, edible mushrooms, and of course river and lake fish are available in various seasons and despite the memes of Seattle Chill, the people here are friendly and easy to get along with. Just avoid the capital city, Olympia, and Seattle proper - the suburbs are fine, and there are little towns of 500-ish people dotted all across North Washington.

>>2835472
>But when you say 'animals' do you mean mammals?
Animals in general, I can't thing any other way to classify insects, spiders and snakes together. But now that I think of it, wild board and lynxes could be an issue if I ever leave the food inside the tent.

>>2835477
No I ment that in the context of
>they try to get inside
which in my experience and to my knowledge is not a problem with mammals unless they are accustomed to humans, rabid or simply bears and dont give a fuck.
In my area it's rare for you to spot a lynx. And here at least it is not a real thing that a lynx is ever going to approach you, at most you see it far away, while it has defi ately noticed you a while ago and just decided you're far away enough so it can stay.
Regarsing the boar: They too are generally too shy to actively seek out a place with a human. They only ever get defensive when cornered.
Oh well, I remember this one hunter who supposedly knocked himself out and woke up to the sensation of a wild boar gnawing away at his leg. Never say never I guess.

>be me
>wild boar
>dafuq?
>hunter shoots at me
>idea.jpg
>play dead hehehehe
>hunter approaches
>bide leg :DDDD
>hunter died
KEK
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10438925/Wild-boar-kills-Italian-hunter-father-shot-animal.html
the more you know

>>2835466
maybe next time you go bikepacking you should just bring an inflatable bubble since you're so worried.


>wow boiling my own water or just bringing water is so hard
>wow bringing wet wipes, to wipe your face down and clean yourself up is so hard
>oh no strangers are going to think i'm dirty because i'm literally sleeping outside
>but but but the ticks!!! how do people go outside where ticks exist!! i've never heard of deet before!!
>ewwwww i'm so sweaty and there's so many germs on me

it's not for you.

>>2835484
This.
Is what this thread has become in a nutshell.
>but what if *irrational fear*
believe it or not you can go for a day without water. If you didn't manage to find water on the second day bail.
you can go for alot longer without food. again bail if you didnt eat for too long but I don't see how that is going to happen - well unless irrational fear of stores
just apply fucking repellent, wear clothes and deal with getting bitten - doxicycline and youre good
bathe when you find a suitable body of water
also people dont even stink naturally, idk what people who stink did wrong but generally people dont stink after a week of sweating every day and no shower.
just dont drape your tent in bacon strips to signal bears
just fucking pedal
... list goes on forever

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>>2835465
I'm not saying you're going to use electric power all day, I'm just saying that a solar panel will get you 5 or 10 free miles of ebike power, OR it will give you 10 to 20 miles of assist power, OR it will give you enough power to charge your devices/flashlights and have a fan for summer nights.

>>2835523
Try it, let me know what you think.

I looked into it. Consensus so far on portable solar panels is that they're almost too much trouble to carry. Remember, you're adding weight and reducing your aero as well. I doubt they're going to give you even 5 additional miles of assist per day.

>>2835544
I have a hub dynamo, it runs the lights directly at night and charges all my studf or a power bank at day.
But that won't work for motorist fags since perpetuum mobile n shit.
I remember Iohan Gueorguiev carried a solar and I think he came from a hub dynamo.
I'm very happy with the dynamo solution.

>>2835504
it's like they forget that cycling is just a faster method of travel than walking. i really don't know what the fuss is about.

>>2835465
It's like you're against everything you're trying to accomplish. Why are you even bikepacking in the first place if you don't want to pedal, scared of germs, scared of bugs, don't want to be dirty, don't know how to prepare water or food. What drove you to this hobby I'm genuinely curious.

>>2835427
>Biking is not cheaper than driving. This is a myth. Everything is expensive and they really screw you on parts.
If you are to have those fancy bikes that are superlight, then that is true, it costs as much as using a regular motorcycle, sometimes even more.
>gas stations and truck stops are never safe
Same you could say about a fucking shopping mall, or just even going to a regular suburb desu, the big factor at play is mostly is the hour, which the worst ones are close to midnight and before sunrise.

Rest for me sounds like pure seethe.

>>2835482
>Check comments
>Zicolam from Egypt says:
>"The hunter made a very boar choice"
SOLID KEK

>>2835648
Yeah exactly. I posted it on another board but in the same context very recently:
I know at least two guys whose mode of operating is:
Wake up somewhere. Need bicycle. Check classifieds. Maybe something for free, maybe pay 20 bux. Go get bicycle. Ride her onwards. Be somewhere else. Put it in classifieds at 30 bux, maybe lucky? If not keep it ride another place. Maybe eventually gift it to someone who needs it more. Repeat.
Like this they go through ownership of one or two bicycles a week and while I operate differently I understand the idea:
Never worry about it, be carefree, never fiddle with it or repair a thing, no attachement, comes and goes, gets you to the next place, like a train there there is no more trains but also at the speed of observation.
Why care about superbike if you don't need to be anywhere on time and are even a literal bicycle inept weakling. It's not like bicycles had vastly different intrinsic velocity. It's the rider but much much more so the fact THAT you are on a bicycle, compared to being on foot, and not what kind of bicycle.

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>>2828268
Sounds amazing!
I'm in France too, I've did a few week-long bike trips throughout the country, but never more than two weeks.
I do dream of going fully into this lifestyle when I leave my job, but I have some questions.
Can you post the list of gear you are using ? (Bike, tent, bivy bag, etc...)
I have most of those already but I'm thinking of buying new, better, gear.
I would like to get a new bike because my current one is a heavy dirt bike, not practical for long distances. I've tried gravel bikes before and they seem great for this kind of project.
And do you plan your routes ? If so, how ? With physical maps ? Or phone ? Do you always bike ? Or do you sometime walk too, or take the train ?

Anyway, have a good adventure.
Maybe we shall meet on the way one day.

>>2835967
toolbox fallacy.

>>2835980
Nigger I already bike and go /out/, I'm just looking to change some of my gear so I'm asking people who use said gear in the same way I do.
Nigger

>>2836013
Nigger

kek

>>2820483
Hey friend pepper spray and a knife are nice for protection
Peaceful and aggro if you need it to create a diversion or something whatever I'm not advocating violence only peace
If you can fight the biggest animal reasonably you can walk around fairly relaxed
Albeit the biggest animal is a retard with a gun so that's unfortunate
It's a crap shoot
If you're close enough though what's great about pepper spray is that even if it doesn't hurt that much you still have a lot of trouble keeping your eyes open
And if you get it in their nose and mouth that's gotta suck
Plus you can probably make this solution if you had to in a situation where you camp in the woods in an area you can grow peppers to completion
That
Anyway some kind of a pump sprayer would be great
the knife to finish things off if you had to
Or maybe you could take a rock to the back of their skull
Honestly the spray is doing pretty good
And people might be content with peace or theft or whatever is afforded through this luxury more so than readily anticipated considering current gun violence demographics

>>2820483
Sorry if this has been asked before, but couldn't find it in the thread. What bike is that?

I don't really get this thread. You guys are talking to a homeless guy, why ask him about applying for jobs and making a good faith effort and all that? They always say "I tried everything". Fine, whatever. At the same time, to the homeless guy, at some point he needs tools and tells people he's hungry, but he won't do simple shoplifting? I shoplift stuff I need or want just for the hell of it. I don't care about the moral or ethical argument because I am a thief. All of this just seems so pleading and harder than it needs to be. But enjoy your suffering. I'm sure it will be punctuated by moments of ecstasy and honest reflection, leading inevitably though to just another bike ride. Maybe you can write a book about it, I guess.

>>2837404
Thats a whole lot of assumptions paired with declarations if being an utter piece of shit.

>>2837411
Sadly for you, I don't give a fuck if you don't approve of me or the things I do or say.

>>2831957
>Oregon coast is more hospitable
Yes, but it's also accessibility nightmare.
Beautiful but fuck *driving* on certain parts of 101 in bad weather, let alone biking or hiking.

>>2820483
>Now wot? Have any other anons lived the drifter life? How do I find good stealthcamp spots so cops don’t burn my tent and retard tweakers dont do me like kevin nash in the summer of 92?
I spent 6 months living out of a backpack, then a year living out of a van. then I bought some cheap shitty land where im garunteed to never have any neighbors, and now im building a tiny house.
I figure if I can get my housing sorted out then I wont need to work much if any

>>2837487
>I bought some cheap shitty land where im garunteed to never have any neighbors, and now im building a tiny house.
>I figure if I can get my housing sorted out then I wont need to work much if any
How? Are you rich?

>>2837404
>I am a thief
Hope you enjoy the anal pain once you go to prison!

>>2837708
Nothing will happen

Kill homeless. Behead homeless. Roundhouse kick a homeless into the concrete. Slam dunk a homeless baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy homeless. Defecate in a homeless food. Launch homeless into the sun. Stir fry homeless in a wok. Toss homeless into active volcanoes. Urinate into a homeless gas tank. Judo throw homeless into a wood chipper. Twist homeless heads off. Report homeless to the IRS. Karate chop homeless in half. Curb stomp pregnant homeless. Trap homeless in quicksand. Crush homeless in the trash compactor. Liquefy homeless in a vat of acid. Eat homeless. Dissect homeless. Exterminate homeless in the gas chamber. Stomp homeless skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate homeless in the oven. Lobotomize homeless. Mandatory abortions for homeless. Grind homeless fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown homeless in fried chicken grease. Vaporize homeless with a ray gun. Kick old homeless down the stairs. Feed homeless to alligators. Slice homeless with a katana.

>>2837732
Based
Fuck homeless scum
Kill them all

>>2828268
is that the decathlon rack

>>2820483
>that bike seat
How the fuck do biological males ride bicycles? I love the idea of pedaling around the country and living free, but fucking HATE bicycle seats with a passion. Those reclining tricycles seem like the best option, but they cost so much more.

>>2835427
Sounds like you picked a shitty part of the country to bikepack. My choice would be Michigan. You have 1) flatness, 2) dense forests, 3) beautiful lakes, 4) plentiful state parks where you can sneak a hot shower and fill your water bottles, 5) mild summer climate, rainstorms can be severe but rarely last long, 6) locals who aren't in the habit of harassing random strangers, 7) firm sand roads that lead deep into the forest.

>>2835466
You never heard of a water filter? Washing your dishes with creek water is not going to make you sick. Dry them out with your shirt if you're that worried. Many parts of America have few ticks. In any case, avoid thrashing through brush and weeds; stay in open forests.

Everyday bathing is as simple as pouring a bottle of water over your head and rubbing yourself down with your other hand. Do this on a daily basis in hot weather, every other day in cooler weather. Before bed is ideal.
>>2835465
Even in a van I averaged 30-40 miles a day vagabonding around states like Colorado and Michigan. 70 miles is excessive.
>>2835570
It also spares your shoulders from the weight of a full pack.
>>2835658
Shit, my local auction house wants $50 for a bicycle that's been sitting out in the yard for a year, all rusty and with rotted tires.

>>2838105
Have you ever shit outside? Try wiping your arse

>>2820483
time to remove the dork disc, youre ready my anon friend

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>>2838252
Fafo.

You will not escape nigga

>>2821949
>Every day I hate myself for not doing this earlier yet it quickly gets drowned by loving myself for finally doing it
This is the key to all things, including relationships and parentling. You will grow more than you know.

Holy shit this thread is a gold mine.
I dont know if this is an elaborate gag you guys setup beforehand or if it evolved on its own or if you guys are serious but thanks for the laughs.