what apparatus do you cook on? what have you cooked recently? post pictures of your shit. i just bought a twig stove. did i make the right choice? i'm new to this whole camping thing.
>>2829600They're good for coiling water, as long as you have easy access to plenty of small sticks. If you're in an area that regulates when and where you you can make a camp fires, these fall under those regulations, unlike gas camp stoves. Just something to keep in mind.
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>>2829600You bought the worst type of stove
>>2829600i could tell you my experience with cooking over fire for 2+ years, but since no one ever replies to my posts on this board im not going to give you any tips at all. just figure it out yourself
Pic is mine. Works great. Inb4 wind. Using a different pot now (the handle ended up encrusted with filth and I didn’t feel like wrapping another one, so I bought a titanium pot on Aliexpress). >>2829604They’re fun though>>2829618I’m sorry to hear that Anon. Just know that I read every post even if I don’t reply.
>>2829618tell mei will appreciate your wisdom>>2829601the stove i bought also takes alcohol burnersbut i wanna cook with fire, that sounds more fun
>>2829600ive been thinking of making a stove like this one for a while nowshouldnt it be possible to use a can opener and "open" both sides of a steel can and flattening that out and cutting a pattern into it make it stand up and function properly?has anyone tried this?
>>2829626Designing it as a gasifier is probably the better option.https://www.coltercousa.com/journal/2015/4/1/diy-wood-gasifier-backpacking-stove
>>2829600I usually use a trangia but I got one of these recently (not this exact model) and it’s pretty good. It’s small and pretty light
>>2829648Otherwise I use a trangia like this one which is pretty compact but usually requires liquid or pellet fuel which I don’t always want to carry
>>2829600>did i make the right choice?honestly not. i cooked on wood fires for years before getting a real cook kit. dealing with soot innawoods is not very pleasant. now i use a trangia 27 with alcohol stove. it's not the lightest or cheapest option but i think the design is brilliant and consider it more versatile than a canister stove and single cup / pot.>>2829618i'm replying to your post :^)>>2829620cat can stove anon! if i could make one upgrade suggestion, consider ditching the handle and using a mini pot lifter>>2829624>but i wanna cook with fire, that sounds more funconstantly feeding twigs into what effectively becomes an ashtray in your backpack is not "fun">>2829650i'm not trying to buy another fuel bottle but the 0.3 L one would've been better than 0.5 L; trangia's own fuel bottles are really high quality.
>>2829600cooked korean spicy stir fry pork when i was at the campground with my ol lady. got this wok at a thrift store and i swear by it for cooking stuff on the fire now
>>2829735Thrift stores are great for pots and pans. Legit cooking outside is kink, but in a much different way than boiling water for something dehydrated.
>>2829756yeah, actual outdoor cooking is quite nice indeed. i've resisted buying a trangia nonstick pan and a clickstand for my second stove. unironically, to buy a food dehydrator instead. the dehydrator seems like the better value, plus i could probably use a "real" puffer jacket that actually packs down small.
>>2829756yeah i've pretty much acquired all of my outdoor cooking shit from the thrift store. before i had the wok i found a decent cast iron but i prefer just cooking on the grills when i can so it didnt see much use
my stove arrivedit's a little bit smaller than i thought it would be but oh well
>>2830104Good for fuckall except boiling water and you'll need 4 lbs of twigs for that
>>2830105>4 lbs of twigswood has almost exactly half the energy density as alcohol and a third the density of propane/oil. you dont need a crazy amount of wood to do something sensible now obviously being a solid wood doesnt pack down as much as liquid alcohol or a gas in a canister, and obviously any moisture or dirt in the wood has no energy so yes, your joke is funnybut the tldr is that you only need an ounce or so of wood to cook something (and thats much easier to find in the woods than alcohol or propane)
>>2830129you underestimate it anon. i have one similar sort of construction that i've used a few times and I had to gather sticks 4 times and restart the fire twice while trying to cook 6 eggs
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>>2830129There's a reason why even through - hikers carry gas stoves and not twig stoves. You'll find out one day in a few yrs if you stick with the outdoors.
I usually cook on those fire-pit grills you see at campgrounds; I should get one of those if I ever try to hike on the Appalachian Trail.
>>2830129>it’s easier to find wood than stove fuelThere’s a 100% I have stove fuel with me, but twigs are at the mercy of the weather. They’re fun to use but don’t try to pretend like it’s a pragmatic decision.
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>>2829600>chesey instant stovetop potato bits>2 packets of cooked chicken>boil half a pot of water, add the potatoes and let them soak for like 10 minutes>add the cheese powder and the chicken packetswa la, and everything that you make innawoods tastes better for some reason.
>>2830158>>2830220>>2830342i figured it out i live in australia, it doesnt rain much and when it does its very predictable. im also surrounded constantly by trees shedding twigs (containing flammable resin) and dry leaves (containing flammable resin)its no surprise that twig stoves are stronger here than probably anywhere else
>>2830379i'm op and i used the twig stove for the first time yesterday. i'm also australian.i made a corned beef hash. well it was supposed to be that but i forgot to bring oil so i had to cook the potatoes in water because they kept sticking to the pot so it was more of a shitty little stew than a hash but it tasted alright. i need to buy a cooler so i can bring raw meat with me. the stove performed better than i thought it would from reading some of the replies itt. it got hot enough to cook everything and there was dry wood everywhere, i barely needed to stand up to reach for all i needed. with a fire starter and a match it was piss easy starting the fire, i'm defintely not a bushcrafter. i want to get an open grill design like >>2829648 and >>2830167but soon i'll need a gas stove for spring and summer when fire bans come into play.
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>>2830105>>2830129Twig stoves are not too bad, but honestly the best fuel for them is actual firewood. I like to use mine every now and then, if I am in a mood for some larping. Pic related is a very old photo of mine, early COVID era. I will bring my own firewood with that twig stove though, that is because fuck collecting twigs from the nature. If I was to go on a longer trip, I would instead go with a trangia or a gas stove.
Sportsman's is blowing out the last-gen jetmeme for $80 so I just picked one up. Gonna be doing some motocamping at altitude and it seems like a pretty good option. Gave it a test boil and it sure as hell does go fast, think I might want to get the pot support and a little pan for it though so I can at least cook some real stuff.
>>2830660I dont know if things have changed but previously jetboils were really good at boiling fast, but also only good at boiling fast. You cant simmer or anything. I've found pocket rockets much better for a wider range of flame size to cook with
>>2830520a small titanium twig stove is a very larpy item, especially with pavement in the background. i completely understand wanting to bring fresh ingredients including meat the first night. you're probably well off with a small trangia kit, it requires 0 maintenance and you can find a gallon of fuel for it at any hardware store for like $20. protip, put neodymium magnets on the simmer ring cover so you can safely remove it. the wood stove prolly isn't terrible if your wood isn't wet by default, but that doesn't change the soot problem.
>>2830661Wouldn't shock me if that was still the case, it doesn't seem like you can get the flame that low before it cuts out. Might be alright for bacon and eggs or a steak or whatever though. I can live with it as nothing but a boiler too though, given the motocamping use case, where I'll only be out for 3 or 4 nights tops and will never be that far from civilization so I can pick up fresh ingredients or whatever.
oh yeah, what i meant to post in whatever /out/ck/ thread currently exists:https://www.backpackingchef.com/dehydrating-food.html#dehydratingfoodbycategoryi ordered a less fancy version of picrel and would like to start making dehydrated meals next week. last year i started sous vide, which was bulky but equivalent to home-cooked meals when heated (boiling water reused).i wanna do a late summer week in the new england AT and i think having most food be dehydrated, with shelf-stable (high acid, low fat) sous vide dinners, would be best.>>2830220i'm trying to see how an aeropress would fit into my backpack now with a trangia, which seems to pack slightly shorter and wider than that pot. i'd always given up on camping coffee and prefer to bring black teabags instead.
>>2830679yeah i'm thinking the same thing now. it's been a few days and my backpack which i put it in still strongly smells of smoke.it worked well but i don't think i can handle the smell, i look and smell like some chain smoking bum with that backpack on now. i reckon i'll save the fire cooking for campsites with actual fire pits now lol. can a trangia cook food beyond just boiling water? i am afraid that it won't put out enough heat. say for example frying sausages or making a small stew...and that is not pavement, it's a big flat boulder i found.thank you for the help
>>2830661With firemaple's petrel pots, there is really no reason to buy a jetboil anymore.
>>2830718Get a stick and hang the stake, this shit will be filled with ashes>>2830521if the point is having your cookware on top of the fire, why not hang it with a line? Or just put the resistant cookware in the fire?
>>2830687When im through hiking, I pack nescafe single serve coffee pouches. I only bring this "aeropress go" system when im doing a weekend camp (Or less). Congrats on the dehydrator! I've got a 9 tray excalibur. It's great
>>2830701>yeah i'm thinking the same thing now. it's been a few days and my backpack which i put it in still strongly smells of smoke.i cooked on open fire for years until i finally bought a cook kit. carrying around a sooty pot sucked.>can a trangia cook food beyond just boiling water? i am afraid that it won't put out enough heat. say for example frying sausages or making a small stew...yes, the first thing i did to test it was to make bacon and eggs. i wouldn't recommend frying anything sticky but have heard great things about the nonstick pan's durability. it's a very fuel-efficient system that packs down into itself.>>2830739gotcha, an aeropress would probably be nice for weekend trips. i've seen so much shitty coffee that i decided to just bring teabags. i might try brewing espresso, freezing it as cubes, and making vacuum sealed servings to reheat sous vide.i can't wait to start dehydrating food and believe it'll work well with my vacuum sealer. just another tool in the arsenal. some foods don't thaw well and others don't rehydrate well.
>>2830521i have one of these and its bigger version. works pretty decent over a campfire. grilled some chicken, fried some eggs, onions and livers in a pan.
>>2830732>having your cookware on top of the fireYou can grill meat or veg on it, too.
>>2831332thats what i did with mine. really quite useful.
>>2831327it seems like a good option if we're cooking over fire, desu. i've tried soaping the outside of pots but it doesn't really help too much with soot.anyway, i'm making this recipe right now:https://www.backpackingchef.com/turkey-chili.htmlit's actually coming out really well despite the fattiest ingredient being 99% lean ground turkey. adding a cup of textured vegetable protein instantly thickened up my double recipe. i also elected to use bread crumbs in the turkey despite it not being strictly necessary.the concept of dehydrated food is still kinda insane to me. i'm also freezing some espresso americano to experiment with vacuum-sealed ice cube servings. dunno if that'll be enough to prevent it from going bitter.
>>2831358pic. will do an after once it's dried.
>>2831362sorry to triple-post but i also bought a lot of apples and pears, and want to try fruit leather next. this lady on youtube says adding pectin helps it feel juicy after dehydrating:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmack2TJ-1wi was thinking i could use agar to achieve the same effect with less fuss, plus it's pure complex carbs and amino acids, and we all know how important it is to shit clean innawoods. the recipe would probably be like this:>blend the cored fruits>measure the amount (maybe 0.5 g/L of agar? NOT a lot)>simmer the fruit puree with just enough apple cider vinegar>maybe add a small amount of honey>season with salt, pepper, cinnamon, and nutmeg>bring to a boil and slowly add the agar>dehydrate it, make fruit roll-ups in parchment paper, and vacuum sealhaving a food dehydrator is nuts. it unlocks and entire genre of cooking even beyond /out/ and is worthy of being a dedicated, if bulky, appliance. at least it's light. but my countertop combi over couldn't dry food as well.
>>2831358just freeze the espresso and when you add it to water it will become americano
>>2831389the espresso is already a failure. there's air in the pouches that succeeded and i don't wanna reheat it tomorrow. i guess it's tea bags.in other news, the dehydrated chili worked great. my main takeaway is to use backpacking chef's ideas but use your own recipes and omit all fat/oil/butter. that adds a challenge to it.
>>2831420Ever thought about getting one of these?
sister got me this for christmas a couple years back. love this little thing, can heat up some water in the morning and get a couple shots of espresso in you. i'm a heathen so i mostly skip the heating up water part but it's a cool little gadget if you're a caffeine addict like me
>>2831426this looks pretty cool, thanks. i've generally been trying to avoid bringing dedicated coffee equipment because i don't like bad coffee, and spent teabags are generally more convenient waste to manage. if this thing is generating 8g pucks of spent grounds, that's doable. aeropress isn't strong enough coffee.anyway, this is the finished result of the turkey chili recipe. i doubled the meat, added TVP to it, didn't really count the vegetables but added more than called for including mushrooms, and made 1.5x portions (1.5 cups ea). i got 8 big meals out of it, vacuum sealed and with silica gel and deoxidizers inside.the meat was $10/lb and i used 2 large onions, 3 bell peppers, half a head of garlic, half a pound of mushrooms, 3 cans of beans, a big can of diced tomatoes, a quart of beef broth, and a can of tomato sauce (i could've used 2 small tomato pastes and not needed to add TVP). so it came out to like $4 per meal that's prolly about 2x as big and nutritious and calorie dense as mtn house.i'm doing fruit leather now, the pectin/agar idea seems retarded. turns out i simply needed to immersion blend fruit that was softened in simmering orange juice and ACV, then add spices and call it done.
>>2831422whats that like a mini tea egg for coffee ? or like the>>2831426 kiddy chocolate milks straws? >>2830687coll stuff make lots of jerky with mine and dired fruit too
>>2831532>make lots of jerky with minei'm gonna try salmon jerky next:https://www.jerkyholic.com/tasty-salmon-jerky/it's wild that i could make a passable sushi while camping. apparently rice and cukes dehydrate very well. i basically got a lifetime supply of nori some years ago due to a shipment meant for a sushi restaurant with the same address.
>>2831532so basically you put hot water in one side. put your espresso in the middle - then the little circle thing pops out like a button and you pump it through into the little cup thing. it's all in one pretty easy to use once you figure it out. it like all unscrews. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cev3cHjeUc
>>2831532>whats that like a mini tea egg for coffee ?It's a stainless steel filter on the bottom of a ss straw. You add the grounds to the water, like in a French press. But instead of pressing and pouring, you drink right from that. The straw filters out the grounds. Works best with a coarser, French press grind vs an espresso grind.
>>2830660OK, fuck that Jetboil. I followed the instructions to the letter and the shit melted on me the second time I used it, burned the shit out of my hand with molten plastic too. That was with no wind or anything too. Weird thing is there's no sign of burning at the bottom of the sleeve, it seems like the heat actually came through the pot.
>>2831589Should rephrase, there ARE some signs at the bottom (you can see that in the pic) but there are also melted areas that don't have signs below them. Anyway I returned it for a more traditional setup. Was cheaper and a lot more versatile anyway, and it's hard to argue with Made in Japan.
>>2831589>>2831590Shit, triple posting here, but meant to add that I looked it up and this does seem to be some kind of rare defect that's happened to a small number of people. Always seems to happen the first or second time it's used too.
>>2829651I love everything about my trangia except how much room it takes in my bag. I've tried to take it apart and remove stuff I don't need but in the end you will always need the wind protecting sides and the thingy where the burner sits. Those two take up bulk of the size.
>>2832089yeah, it kinda sucks that the trangia can't really be packed down smaller. i ended up using it to store shit like an altoids tin of fire starters, a lighter, various bags, half sponge, etc. then i zip it all into the hardshell case they sell and pack it vertically.
>>2832542Basically the same for me. Foldacups, utensils, sponge. Might splurge on a gas stove and just carry one of the "pans" of the trangia; once money isn't so tight.
>>2832549i also carry some stuff in the medium size cooler from ultralite sacks. that guy is pretty chill. anyway it also doubles as a way to rehydrate food and to store electronics and shit overnight. i'd say about 20% of my backpack's main pocket is dedicated to cooking and cooking accessories. it's an old kelty so it holds a lot. not great, no bad, considering the alternatives seem to be cat can anon's setup, or an annoying-ass gas canister setup.
>>2830129>wood has almost exactly half the energy density as alcohol and a third the density of propane/oil.wood also has 10-20% of water by weight even if it's dry weather, which not only cuts the useful weight but also makes you waste energy to boil it off, not to mention the additional expedniture getting the fire going
>>2834683>dry>at 10-20%this guy doesn't even dry his wood properly and probably gets all his neighbours mad when heating
>>2832560Oh damn I'm gonna have to order one of those, seems perfect for motocamping where I just need stuff to stay cool overnight.
>>2834698unless you dried your wood under a roof or using heat you won't find a wood that's more dry outside of arid shrubs
>>2834701I mean, if you are moto camping, you could get by with a cheap kids school lunch bag. Probably keep things just as cold as dynema and what I'm assuming is windshield reflector material.
>>2834749Alternatively, a bubble mail envelope from Amazon.
>>2834749I thought about that, but moto (at least with my setup) has some pretty severe size restrictions.
>>2834772FYI the cooler i linked is basically pouch of hello fresh packing with dyneema sewed onto it for waterproofing, and a zipper. i only use it cuz frozen electronics sucks ass and i'm making my own dehydrated meals. plus it really is just one guy with a sewing machine so i don't mind giving him money in lieu of learning to sew myself
>>2834805>plus it really is just one guy with a sewing machine so i don't mind giving him money in lieu of learning to sew myselfThat's a reasonable enough reason for me too, especially since they aren't a crazy amount of money. I'm just paranoid as hell about food spoilage and want something to make me more confident in raw sausage etc. (maybe even eggs) that have been away from a fridge since I left home the previous day, while not taking up a ton of space in my 39l U-shaped saddlebag or getting condensation on my other stuff.
Cooked some pork belly Skewers when last out
>>2831358Your links take on using a Thermos for rehydrating things is kinda interesting.
>>2829600why you need a stove just to burn some wood when you can just put some stones together if you need a stand for your utensil
>>2836527This nigga eatin bacon on a stick
How do you guys clean your pot assuming you're not cooking next to water?If I carry some sponge or rag then I just end up with a dirty rag after the first use that I have to clean somehow.Gathering moss or dry grass is time consuming and you never get the pot fully scrubbed.I found carrying paper towels works best but they're a limited use item and then you still have to dispose of the dirty towel somehow.
>>2829600Couldn't you just use a tin can
>>2837339Burn it off
I'll sell you a tin can for $20
>>2829624>but i wanna cook with fire, that sounds more funIt's fun the first 5 times, after that you'll want to cook your meal the fastest way possible with the least amount of hassle.>>2832089Two sheets of perforated titanium from aliexpress that fit inside your pot. Yes there's an alcohol burner inside.
>>2837438This seems like the most logical solution. Will have to see if I have some scrap metal lying around and try to work something out. I'm more mad that I have never thought of this before!
>>2836529were they tough? i thought you needed to slow cook pork belly.
>>2837339You just leave it dirty u til you get to water. A small scouring pad is great. Just using sand works ok too.>u have to dispose of paper towels tholol, wut? What are you currently doing with other trash, like food wrappers and meal containers? You just designate a ziplock bag as the trash bag.
>>2837530You could probably cut one out of 1 or 2 beer cans, but they're like 1-3 dollars on aliexpress with free shipping.It's a bit of a lottery though, some offers say titanium in the title but stainless steel in the description and have pictures of 3 different products. Also check the height because there are lower ones meant for smaller stoves.This is what I have specifically, 2 pieces with knobs and holes and the Lixada logo cut out.
99% of the time I just use my Trangia 25. I have the gas burner but if it's just a day hike I will bring the mini. I have a jetboil zip, its neat but unreliable as hell so I rarely bring it, I have a gen one MSR pocket rocket if I just want a quick tea/coffee A friend gave me this "happy stove" from varusteleka, it's cute, packs small and flat, weighs nothing, cool for a little day trip
>>2837586Stainless would do the job good enough. The grams gained going from sheet stainless to sheet titanium is so miniscule compared to what my trangia weighs. Will have to look into them.
honestly, peanut MMs are goated for a quick oatmeal breakfast>wont melt because of the sugar shell>adds a little chocolate>nuts for a more filling mealonly problem is the food colouring either turning it into a rainbow mess, or a disgusting brown slop
>>2837541They were cooked for about half an hour. Sully cooked and juicy.The 3rd i added cyanne pepper and cooked a bit longer. Put a bit more of a char to it.All 3 Skewers were delicious
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>>2837339One of those little scrapers works decent, just a flat piece of plastic with an edge so pretty small. Its what i used until someone gifted me one of these
I'll be stuck in a sort of quasi-homeless lifestyle living in a tent for a couple of months. Any tips on groceries that last at least four days or so and cook well on a trangia?
>>2829600I want to get a dutch oven for camping, but what size should I get? I mostly camp by myself or maybe with 1 other guy. But I do sometimes camp with large groups so I would like to be able to cook for like 8+ people if I can. But I need to be able to cook for myself + 1 other personWhat is the LARGEST size I can get that will still let me cook for only 1-2 people?
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>>2829618Imagine having this little self worth over the lack of /out/ (you)s
Jet Boils are pre built for convienceMSR is bare bones and you gotta build the kit yourself. I have a Jet boil and recomment them except bring a lighter because the ignator isnt that great. super light weight. and made for backpacking.
>>2839112>except bring a lighter because the ignator isnt that greatOn that note, minor protip, these kind of lighters are great for the job. Sportsman's Warehouse has them in the checkout area but you can probably find similar ones at a smoke shop or something. Barely takes up more room than a regular Bic but makes it way easier to get the fire in close to the burner while keeping your hand at a safe distance.
>>2829600I have this exact model of twig stove and have had almost no issues with it that weren't the fault of my own stupidity. The only thing I would watch out for would be the wind, but with proper planning and/or making a wind shield, you shouldn't have any problems with it. Pic related is a short day hike I did in upstate New York last weekend. Made some pretty good sausage and potato stew with some of the Fosters beer as a base. Highly recommend, and don't let people afraid of soot and finding a handful of twigs tell you otherwise.
>>2839112pocketrocket mogs this and is way more versatile
