As for me, it's the Osprey Nebula
>>2831270For me it's the Flight 30 from Six Moon Designs specifically for the flight vest. It's a good compromise for a day pack + big enough to take extra gear for weather but not overly big
>>2831270Osprey sucks.
>>2831270a custom Atom Packs
>>2831321It’s a shame, too. The AG system really is refined and the best trampoline-suspension system out there but it’s attached to some of the most shitty pack designed imaginable. Osprey refuses to enter into the custom market, they ruined the Exos, and the Levity was discontinued like 5 years ago.
>>2831270Alice all the way. That way, there's at least one girl in my tent.
>>2831321>>2831444you are wrong
>>2831476No, I’m right.
>>2831270I have like 15 backpacks. I have a problem.
>>2831513>I have a problem.Yeah, not enough backpacks
>>2831515I bought a commercial grade sewing machine because none of my backpacks are exactly what I want. I suck at sewing but I'm working on it.
>utterly mogs you out on the trail
>>2831321Do they? All my Osprey packets are 10+ years old but I think they're great.
>>2831615The out community is the biggest bunch of gear queers. Not /out/, although they fit the bill, but out normies in general. Last month I used an older super light rain jacket on a hike that I assumed wouldn't have any rain, maybe a light afternoon shower. It ended up pouring all day and I got wetted through. On my way back to the trailhead I heard 3 different groups talk shit about how I brought the wrong gear. Yeah I got wet and probably didn't smell great but I was fine. You really aren't going to die out there if your gear isn't the top of the line. My go to big pack is an osprey exos 58 that is probably about 10 years old too. And it works great.
>>2831560>no adjustable shoulder straps>no shoulder pocketsnah
>>2831616Is it the version like pic rel? That’s a 48 that I bought in 2014, which was the year Osprey released the second generation Exos. It’s the best pack they’ve ever made. Most of their packs sacrifice weight for some kind of gimmicky pockets. The Exos has always been their streamlined pack. It has everything a pack should have while avoiding extraneous extras. It strikes that middle ground between features, weight, and durability; not too fragile or missing anything you need, but not weighted down with too many pockets to get snagged or zippers to wear out. The 2014 model in particular really hit right where it should be. Every three or four years Osprey does an update or redesign. The 2018 model had thinner padding on the hip belt and shoulder straps, and I think they ditched the shoulder strap pockets, all for the sake of saving a few ounces on an already light(ish) pack. There was no need for it when they already had their version of an ultralight pack (the Levity). It wasn’t the end of the world, but it was a very odd decision.The current model has side compression straps that run over the side pockets, which is an absolute failure in basic design. The side pockets are made to allow the wearer to retrieve water bottles while wearing the pack; they’re open to both the top and front (pretty typical). With compression straps running over the pocket, you’d have to sacrifice that feature just to have your pack cinched down. Or, conversely, you can cinch your pack down and take it off everytime you need a water bottle, rendering the pocket design superfluous. tl;dr just some gearfags opinion on one particular pack from ten years ago
>>2831680Yep mine is that design but orange. I don't use it that much since it's so big. Only multi day trips. But it's pretty much good as new, fairly light, has pockets where it should, and a really good cushion/back support system. It did shed it's waterproof lining for a while and that was annoying, but literally any pack or even older raincoats will do that if you keep them long enough.
>>2831658Poorfag
>>2831560
>>2831270For me, it's the REI Trail 25L pack>it just werks
>>2831560I recently got one of these, after like 10 years of using Gregory packs. I've taken it on a few trips this year. I have mixed feelings. The lack of load-lifters is noticable, but not as bad as I expected. It's more the general lack of "contouring" or other ergonomics, it kinda makes it feel cheap (ironically). It's basically what others have said: "a roll-top bag with some straps." It feels kinda MYOG, even though they're a big company now with like a hundred employees and factory in Mexico. I think the sentiment that they're the "Apple" of packs is basically accurate. I do kinda like the simplicity. The fact that there are basically no adjustment straps has sorta changed the dynamic of taking "pack breaks" for me, where before I took them sparingly and would rather stand or sit with my pack on because I didn't want to dick with readjusting a half-dozen straps each time I took it off, now there's nothing to adjust. It's almost the same as daypack, so that's kinda nice in a way. The lack of zippers and pockets has me packing more deliberately, I guess. I always hated pack lids / "brains" anyways.I'm not sure about some of the materials. They use cheap grosgrain for a few straps which I'm sure is only saving like, 3 grams or something, over regular webbing. There are some bizarre design tradeoffs here and there, like they're really trying to cater to neurotics who cut their toothbrushes in half to "save weight". I kinda wish they'd make a version that's more durable than even the black version, for people who've realized that "features" are just complication / adjustments / shit-to-break, and that simpler is better, but without catering so explicitly to "gram weenies"
>>2832973>that "features" are just complication / adjustments / shit-to-break, and that simpler is better, but without catering so explicitly to "gram weenies"This is exactly what I loved about the Osprey Exos. It’s everything you’d expect in a pack, with only minor additional features. The Gregory Focal is the same concept. Neither strives to be extremely lightweight, but they’re fairly light just by not having extraneous pockets or overly thick construction. They’re the perfect middle ground.
>>2831616>You really aren't going to die out thereProjection. You say this because you stay within comfortable limits of your safety zone. >no big deal>good enough>hahaha fucking retards who spend too much on gear
>>2831270Osprey is shite. My SAR team banned them.
>>2832975Yea but the modern versions of these seem to have taken on the "trampoline suspensions" and floating mesh back panels and other breakable complicated shit and fragile materials that every other mainstream pack has. IMO Gregory and Osprey are almost indistinguishable these days. I was originally going to get another Gregory Stout but saw that it's a completely different pack than it was when I got it back in 2016. I thought I'd give Hyperlite a try mostly because I'd heard, especially the black variants, aren't really all that "UL" and are more just lighter durable simple packs, but I'm kinda turned off by the amateurish design and the value for money. There's definitely a hype factor.Honestly my old Gregory pack has probably 1500 miles on it and is still serviceable. It's beat to hell, but I'm considering just continuing to use it until it distengrates, probably last another 10 years.
>>2833036>”trampoline suspensions" and floating mesh back panels and other breakable complicated shitThis has been standard on every Osprey backpacking bag for almost 20 years. Despite what /out/ wants to believe (it’s real in their mind), these packs last for entire thruhikes on all of the big three trails.
had too many bags that felt uncomfortable on my back with not enough storage space so I just said fuck it and made my own. no idea how big it is but it fits all of my gear nicely with space for food. total cost was around $15 made from 2 pairs of carpenter pants. still need to get something to cinch the top together but it's served me well so far bikepacking.
>>2831560>>utterly mogs you out on the trailget mog UL fag , here's 30kg pack , every UL fag surprise I'm walking the trail like this
>>2833459Based pack and bonus points for wearing boots. Can't wait for the screeching and reeeeeing to commence from the ultraweak fags on this board
>>2833465>Based pack and bonus points for wearing boots. Can't wait for the screeching and reeeeeing to commence from the ultraweak fags on this boardI got enough food for 3 people for 6 days in there , everytime the UL fags walk pass me or go opposite direction they just turn their head in awe kek
>>2833459>I see other people on the trailYeah, we know
>>2833459if it's actually 30kg I'd be mirin too. anything over 20kg and I'd be pretty miserable doing significant distance
>>2833459They're not surprised, they just think you're a goofball. t. I've passed many newbies like you on the trail
>>2833498There are some cases where I pass someone and I'm in awe. I was fucking around near a section of the north country trail in PA and saw a guy come out of the woods with a big pack and like 3 different gym bags slung over his shoulders. he looked like hell, absolutely filthy, but still moving at a good clip. saw him road walking as I was driving out. made me wonder where he started and how long he'd been out there. in hindsight I guess I could've offered him a ride.
>>2833509Those were bags of drugs. He was hauling marijuana from a secret farm in the mountains.
>>2833496it surprisingly not miserable at all the frame pack is quite comfortable actually ,nothing hurt after the trail of 6 days ~100km average 18 km a day , UL tard wwould already complained about their back and shoulder because their tissue paper pack is too saggy>>2833498UL weakling cope
>>2833509Yup. I live near a huge section of the PCT, and I have seen some real goobers on the loose. I saw a tiny Asian couple with big rectangular packs that were bigger than them. No idea what they needed all that gear for. They were still huffing and puffing their way up after I'd already gone up and was on my way back down. No idea if they ever made it to their destination. >>2833542I hate to burst your bubble but I don't believe in UL.
>>2833542Generally speaking, on longer treks, UL hikers are pushing 32km/20 miles a day. Going further more comfortably has been the hallmark of ultralight since Ray Jardine published his book in like 92. Too Legit to Quit was still being played on the radio when people were using ultralight gear but /out/ keeps calling it a fad.
>>2833509NCT kinda sucks logistically in a lot of spots for thru hiking so he mightve been carrying extra water or food
>>2833459>all his gear brand new no stains on anything>out fags still fall for this
>>2831454Is this one from rothco alright? Looking to buy one
>>2831533This is the way
>>2832978Depends on what you're doing. I've made it through 40 below zero in a leather jacket, hoodie, and jeans before (wouldn't recommend it) but sometimes it's really just a comfort/frustration issue. Especially for a day trip or just a couple nights.
>>2833088Amazing.
>>2833557They probably were hauling stuff to do hotpot up there
>>2833835Muhfuggin hotpot xD
For me. Recently walked 37 km with that backpack.
>>2831270Anyone here have an REI Flash 55? I'm looking for a pack to use on long weekend excursions (3 nights max), or possibly to chuck in the back of a kayak for overnight float trips.
>>2831454This
>>2831454t. Incel>>2833931REI branded gear, including their packs, is usually pretty good. The reason you’ll see bad reviews of the Flash 55 is because it doesn’t appeal to normies. It’s a stream lined design without anything super special about it. It’s not particularly compartmentalized either, which apparently people really like. Also it can’t hold a shit ton of weight, which is somewhat of a dilemma for REI, as they’ve never leaned too hard into lightweight backpacking. The spec lists it as a max of 30lb. REI will have a Labor Day sale that lasts all week, starting on Friday. Their store branded stuff is usually like 25% off, so you might want to hold off for a few days. $150 would be a great price.
>>2831560>hold my beer
>>2836011KINO
>>2831270talon 22 supremacy
>>2836488I have it too, great pack
>>2833459
>>2838548
>>2833459you mean like 30 litres or is it higher in volume capacity
>>2833088you ever heard of hemming?
whats a good literage that can accommodate a regular 2 person tent and a sleeping bag and some supplies stealthily without anything hanging out of the bag while still looking like you're going for groceries
>>2831270You should fucking kill yourself these things SUCK
>>2839444You're looking at least 40L and nothing that big looks "normal" Go camping where you're allowed to and you won't have to stress about dumb shit like this
>>2838678is this a man or a woman
