Is it ever possible to end mass clear cut logging and restore some of the natural forest? I’m specifically talking about the PNW where it’s clear cut and tree farms as far as the eye can see. As beautiful as rainier and the redwoods are, it really detracts from the experience when you have to drive through hundreds of miles of clear cut just to get to the parks I know it will take hundreds of years for the old growth level coastal forests to regenerate but will the process ever be started?
>>2835024east of mt. shasta
East of redwood parks
>>2835024It is possible. But just like with returning agricultural land back to nature humanity would have to forgo alot of the ressources humanity currently uses. Either by a reduction of the so called standard of living, reduction of population of increase in ressource efficiency.After all those modern 'forests' you speak of are not very different than fields: They are plantation and when the harvest is ripe it is harvested and replanted.In central europe for example almost every field was historically forested and the remaining 'forest' is mostly plantations.
>>2835032Ok, theoretically if we got rid of all the brown people in the world we could start rewilding the land, no?
Lmao check out west and south of Eugene Oregonthe solution is planting more trees but unfortunately all the ones they're cutting down are old growth
>>2835146It sucks bro. I’m just south of cottage grove. Looking out my window I can see 5 clear cut patches that were solid forest just a few years ago.First they clear cut (to sell to chinks) Then come subdivisions (built by squats)To house people from CA.
>>2835153Yeah I know it won't help the old growth but this might makes you feel a tiny bit better check this outhttps://www.google.com/maps/place/46%C2%B053'10.0%22N+114%C2%B003'01.0%22W/@46.8861066,-114.0528479,756check out the street view time lapse growth of these trees after 10 years
>>2835146>>2835153Oregon was pretty much entirely clear cut in the 80s, even then only about 2% of old growth remained and the loggers fought tooth and nail to cut down the remaining 2%. Thankfully we saved some of it but the entire state is basically a timber plantation to this day
>>2835122Yes IMO two very gpod solutions are: Abstaining from lifest, les that are highly energy and ressource intensive, especially motorism, HVACand similar degeneracy and also a reduction of global population and a cultural shift away from believing in the mantra of reproduction, where for some reason population and especially the number of everyones own relatives always must go up and every idiot who understands they are genetically sub par still thinks they have to piss in the pool when they know selection does not happen anymore for a technologically advanced species.This could help allot combating degenerate behaviour and alleviating pressure of the environment, even allowing us to return vast areas back to nature without anyone having a really poor diest as a result or straight up having to starve. (...)
>>2835173(...)I think we can even already do that in some areas if people weren't always egoistically and 'traditionalists' and what not. Take central europe (t. europoor) for example. Every field here was cleared long ago. Also the topsoil was lost in a great flood and wont be restored. Forests have been pushed back to only areas unsuitable for agriculture. Those areas are suboptimal in general so now all forests are under great environmental stress. Agriculture is not economically feasible here. In a free market the situation would be greatly different. The state and EU assblast the farmery with money. Another form of subsidy is import tariffs. The more unsitable conditions here are the higher the tariffs, take sugar: Beet sugar is subsidized while cane sugar is under tarifs. Result: Consumers pay the same for both. Farmers are the new royalty people just don't get it because it seems counterintuitive. We could just liberate the market. Some farmers would sure find their niche. But alot of operations would probably go bust without gibs. It's just not feasible here with how small plots are and how poor the soil is. Btw the farmer here rides his 1 Mio. tractor to Mc Donalds to show off and just uses ir as a super inefficient and noisy automobile and traiker tractor for their many side gigs. The only half good argument they ever make is: What if war and no one is ready to produce food? There's better ways of maintaining the capacity without ruining nature and the ground water.
>>2835024Not without massive human depopulation.
Plant trees.Most trees being cut now are already being planted with the purpose of cutting them after a couple of years for wood, nobody is entering forests or parks to start a illegal logging business.There are already more trees now than there were in the US in the 1950s.
>>2836559I plant saw tooth oaks, shingle oaks, maples, pecans and walnut in random locations (saplings that sprout on my property that i dig up)Burr oaks in special places where I know they'll be protected for a long time.Fuck pine trees.
>>2835024>WAAAAHHHHH WHY IS THE ECOSYSTEM MORE DIVERSE MUH TREES!!!!!!!Unironically those clearcuts probably harbor more wildflowers and animal diversity than the surrounding forest
