Protip you can't
Bragging about best /out/ states is counterintuitive, you want more influencer retards shitting up your state or something?
>>2838012Ask the Arizona autist
>>2838028Tbh the /out/ing in Arizona is just on another level. I'd say California is up there too, but California has whacky laws and I get tired of dealing with them. There are a few /out/ states that just aren't compatible to all the others, and Arizona and California definitely make the list. Florida and Wyoming too.
>>2838012Most every other western state
>>2838012New Mexico is severely underrated in this regard
>>2838072It's surprising that New Mexico has a greater percentage of public land than Colorado.https://www.summitpost.org/public-and-private-land-percentages-by-us-states/186111
>>2838012>Protip you can't>the /out/ing in Arizona is just on another levelSo which is it? Can OP defeat the AZAU?>WyomingWhat does WY have that Montana doesnt except for a few higher peaks?
>>2838012AlaskaStay out
>>2838012
>>2838087If you have to ask this, then it's not for you.
>>2838014new mexanon here, they're already here but santa fe & taos act as containment zones. there's almost no housing or jobs plus the benefit of intentional obfuscation and hostile, tight-knit culture. time in the backcountry requires a little time planning with paper maps and the lack of guardrails and ranger supervision scares a lot of people
>>2838200>the lack of guardrails and ranger supervision scares a lot of peopleSo it's the exact same as: Arizona, Nevada, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Colorado, Alaska?
>>2838126>cant answer>cops outlol. Montana is better than wyoming.
>>2838214The answer is that you're asking the wrong questions. You demonstrate a critical lack of understanding, of hopelessness.
>>2838219>is retarded>doubles down on copethe answer is you are a clueless faggot, doomed forever to be a retard.
>>2838219>asks how they're different>you're asking the wrong questionssounds like you're trying too hard to sound smart
>>2838207yeah probably any of those states would be great places to live, but i also know many of them have way more transplants
west virginia
>>2838200>santa fe & taos act as containment zonesalso known as the only 2 towns in NM that aren't shitholes? besides Los Alamitos
>>2838028I think I am the Arizona autistI am sorry you cannot appreciate the superiority of Arizona
>>2838311should i do the arizona trail? i got my finger over the book flight
>>2838284fanta se is a real shithole with the homeless now fren. truly don't understand coming to this state to live in one of the cities though
>>2838380This tbdesu. NM isn't a state where you live in cities.
>>2838311Wrong. This is the Arizona autist >>2838136. He's been here far longer than the Appalachian autist and has posted hundreds of out pictures he's taken himself. If you need data or synopsis for anything science or history related to AZ, he has it.
I'm deeply Arizona pilled because there's nothing on earth as beautiful as the low Sonoran Desert but NM has it's advantages. Less populated, less urban, less wealthy. Even though AZ's urban population is confined to Phoenix/Tucson remote Northern and Western AZ get slammed by tourists going to national parking lots and Quartzsite RV bullshit respectively. There's still plenty of places to disappear if you know what you're doing, especially on the border, but with Phoenix becoming a mecca for rich tech jerkoffs we're not gonna run out of water fast enough to prevent everything from Vail to Buckeye becoming one gaint suburb.
>>2838284Shithole cities are good. Shithole cities don't bring thousands of REI consoomers to your secret spots. I miss when Tucson was a shithole.
>>2838448Arizona's 2nd district is larger in land area than the state of Florida and has a population of roughly 830,000 people. And no one can afford to rent or buy a house there either. Any additional growth AZ will experience will be completely confined to the mordor corridor where 81% of the entire AZ population already lives. AZ's high desert shortgrass plains are not cultivated or grazed at all (literally less than 1% is utilized), the mordor corridor is the only region of AZ that actually has water and food sustainability issues. Pic unrelated.
>>2838448>oh look, sand, rocks and catcusHow is this more beautiful than an alpine lake in the sierras?
>>2838538Its more that theres less tourist niggers and a shit ton of land to fuck around. The only reservation i have about NM is that i could be murdered anywhere
>>2838540Anywhere anytime
Utah>Colorado>Arizona>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>NM
>>2838449Tucson is a shithole anon. Charming shithole but still a shithole.
>>2838012Its the most kino state but don't tell anyone. We try to keep it a secret
>>2838997Eh... no. It just can't compete with Colorado and Alaska.
I really don't care what you losers think.
>>2838997Hardly. It's a fucking shithole filled with retarded assholes.
>>2838126holy fuck what a cop out lol.
NM really is amazing. Bonus points if anyone recognizes the nippe mountain off the west side of 25 between ABQ and SF. Being in the desert plains at near sunset is one of the most surreal experiences I've ever had. Just something about it, OP. I agree with you.
>>2838012I think literally every single state is better than that.Who wants to walk for days in a desert without seeing a plant and then you die? And that's the good ending. You might wander into US Military area and never be seen again.States like New York are much better, and it's not even close.I don't believe it's actually possible to think New Mexico and Nevada are good unless you have some mental deficiencies and/or grew up there and never visited anywhere else.
I studied in NM for a semester but to be fair, it's just the poor man's Arizona. I guess NM has some more Colorado like mountains with aspen trees and the like compared to Arizona and is less hot. It also feels like more of a hidden gem compared to Arizona and Colorado for example
>>2840545New York is so joylessly authoritarian and crowded it makes it hard to enjoy it. You go into a town and the speed limits are super low and change every 1000 ft.
i've always been a fan of NM, especially the southern half
>>28405453/5 not bad bait
>>2838448>I'm deeply Arizona pilledDitto.
>>2839052Titty Hill or Nipple Butte?
>>2840545>New York
>>2840945>all of New York is ManhattanYes, NY is a great /out/ statet. TXfag
I hate this goddamned shithole state so fucking muchI hope this entire state is annihilated by a fucking meteor new mexico is a fucking SHITHOLE filled with fucking RETARDED ASSHOLES
>>2838028Which one of us?
>>2838012Montana, Arizona, Oregon, Colorado, Maine, Arkansas, the entire Appalachian region of the east, hell I'll even throw in western Canada. Pretty much everything out paces NM.
Nm sucks, dont ever come here
>>2838012Maine is nice if u like slipping and cracking your skull on ice.
NM is ok but the state is no where near the best not even in the southwest not even in the four corners Utah, Arizona, and Colorado are way better
why does literally everyone in NM horde burned up and clapped out campers/winnebagos90% of people that live here live in a trailer surrounded by garbage with 8 broken down winnebagos in their yard its so fucking weird
>>2841503So we can break bad
>>2841097Pretty much this. Any state really, mogs the shit out of NM.
Yup, New Mexico is best, go there, stay tf outta my state
>>2838311Can you red pill me on AZ? I just applied for a job in Phoenix because they’re expanding my market there. I am from Kansas and like hunting (especially for birds), camping, hiking, and four wheeling. I know they have quail and mountains which is based but how big of a pain in the ass is it to get tags for big game? How crowded are the trails? I’m assuming I can shoot on BLM land correct?
>>2838072I moved from MN to be closer to family. Used to live in Tucson for a few years. I agree.>>2838739>>2838449I'm in Albuquerque now and the similarities are shocking.>>2840963This is also correct.I took this picture on a trail 15 minutes from my place. I enjoy the access to the outdoors.
>>2841503Don't forget the old 50s and 60s busses. In 30 minutes south of Albuquerque in a clean and quiet town. If I drive 20 minutes south into the desert by the Manzano Moutains it's a complete 3rd world country. Old rvs connected to each other like extra rooms, old busses, burned out house ruins. Id be surprised if they even had running water. Rural poverty is wild
>>2842346>nooo people can't just live in what are likely better conditions than they did 100 years ago in the same area
>>2838012If you're really, really into rocks, it's up thereOtherwise, I don't really get itTrying to uncover abandoned experiments?
The northern parts of Minnesota and Georgia are great, but Georgia's better.
>>2842191>I just applied for a job in Phoenix because they’re expanding my market thereREEEEEEEEBut anyway. Trails are crowded during peak seasons and if life forces you to be a weekend warrior, but there's plenty of quiet if you get out and explore. BLM land is hype. Go ahead and shoot. Please clean up your brass and shells. I don't really hunt so I can't answer the other question.
>>2838012Oregon is right there.
>>2842743>state that tried to ban hunting Miss me with that bullshit, fampai.
>>2842802>stateit wasnt the state. it was some people in the state. and it failed miserably. didnt even make the ballot.
>>2838012Sorry but the Democratic People's Republic of California is the best. We have everything. Mountains, beaches, deserts, forests, and everything else a civilized society needs.
>>2842841Too much peepo
>>2842841The more I've traveled the US, the more I've started to see California as the stereotypical "jack of all trades, master of none" state. It has deserts, but it doesn't have the best deserts. In fact... California's deserts are pretty awful. It has alpine mountains, but it doesn't have the best alpine mountains and other states have more unrestricted, more accessible, more diverse, more plentiful mountainous areas. It has several national parks... but so do other states. It has a coast, but Oregon and Washington have the better coast. It has the redwoods, but the rainforest in Washington is just better than that. It has Lassen, which is like a poor man's version of Yellowstone. It has Death Valley, which is just a more populated version of the Virgin Valley. Yeah, you can ski at multiple hills in California but the quality of skiing in Wyoming, Vermont, Utah, and Washington is just better. The biggest claim to fame I've heard from Californian outdoorsmen is that you can surf and ski in the same day but... you can do that in Washington, Maine, New York, New Hampshire, Hawaii. California desperately wants to be the best /out/ state but it just isn't quite there.
>>2842841Too bad about your people. It really is abundant in beautiful nature.
>>2842881>but Oregon and Washington have the better coast.i've been all up and down the coasts of all 3 states and do not find that to be a factual statement
>>2842881The beaches are unquestionably the best. >>2842898This guy knows...
>>2838012Are we not counting the backwoods of Yellowstone here? Montana can't be slept on that easily man...
>>2838012Kansas
>>2838031California and Nevada have lots of forests which are not patrolled too much. Also have you been around northern Nevada, some of those forests and reserves there? True remoteness, nobody goes there
>>2842881California>mountainsOnly sierra nevadas are worth shit here, everything else is weekend camp for Labor Day tier like big bear. Sierra nevadas have lots of east-west highways which can provide access to lesser visited trails and locations. Overall several states do mountains better. Maybe other states are more for the true “get lost” type of mountaineer versus California being more easily navigable and accessible >beachesBest in the country besides Hawaii. Florida is better for swimming, but the beauty of NorCal’s coast combined with socals swimming weather makes the California coast number 1. Washington and Oregon are a close second but they don’t have that socal weather. Gloomy beaches are only so fun>desertUnderrated, lots of cool places like Anza Borrego, Lee Vining, Trona. Although naturally Arizona, Utah, and New Mexico are all better. Nevada is beautiful more for its vastness. Yeah saying it’s a jack of all trades might be accurate desu, although having so much cool shit in one place still makes it the best place to live.
>>2843026>Only sierra nevadas are worth shit here,Tell me you never been north of I-80 without telling me. The Trinity Alps, the southern Cascades, teh Kings range on the coast are all worth "shit" you ignorant tard
>>2843048Very nice, but where's the wilderness?
>>2839052Tetilla Peak
>>2842881>you can surf and ski in the same dayIt's basically bullshit anyway. Might be doable if there was nobody else on the road but it'd be insane to try with the traffic that actually exists, it's a 3-4 hour drive minimum between Big Bear and any beach unless you get incredibly lucky. That doesn't account for the fact that you probably won't live near either as well so you have to add the time from home to Big Bear and then to the beach or vice versa. I guess it might be slightly more doable on the rare occasions that Mt. Baldy is turning lifts but even so you'd have to be a masochist to try.
>>2843330You were not meant to take that so literally anon. Its a think that is possible that points to the ability to do such different things in the same area. Its not people ever actually want to do both in one day.
New Mexico is the Bestico
>>2842881Eastern Sierra are spectacular
>>2838448>nothing on earth as beautiful as the low Sonoran DesertIs it your pic related? Because if that's the most beautiful thing on Earth to you, damn
Stop talking about NM, just go to CO or AZ
>>2838012Literally any state is better. Why is this thread still up?
>>2842841If we could hunt the Chinese tourists it really would be amazing. until then WA is the best cause people dont bat an eye when Zhao Xing or a random pajeet goes missing in Olympic.
>>2842346I was pretty shocked when I drove through CO for the first time this year and many places looked just as fucked up as NM, especially on the front range which is supposed to be the 'real Colorado' AZ and UT seemed to have much less blight.
>>2843523More than the restico?
>>2842346Meadowlake? Lol
New Mexico is far too rugged for the gentile crowd here. They need nice homes and infrastructure
>>2845530>gentileObviously the Jews are happy to live in shacks.
>>2845591ur mom was a genteel
>>2840945Adirondacks are pretty amazingI live in Vermont and I'd never bothered to go there until a couple weeks agoI was surprised how nice it is and how the landscape is more extreme than Vermont
>>2840945that poor guy
Truly the land of enchantment. People are caching on sadly and there has been a large increase of Californians and Texans coming here. Can tell just by the increase number of license plates from those places as well as how they are buying property left and right that the average New Mexican can't afford.
