Do you partake, anon? It's the best way to experience nature
>>2843161Would if I could find them.
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>>2843161Hiking with them is fun. I get no fatigue until the comedown, then it hits all at once lol
>>2843161I've partooken a few times and actually it was amazing every time. No fear or paranoia at all, just me and my bro wandering in nature in a pretty calm bliss. Afternoon in the woods was fucking tops, 1am in the woods was fucking tops, 5am sunrise in the woods was fucking tops.I would highly recommend and I would do it again.
>>2843162Grow your own. Super easy.
>>2843161Not for like 15 years.Did them once in an arboretum and had an awesome time.Did them once in an apartment in a city and did not have a good time.
>>2843161i do and enjoy them quite a bit but they give me stomach issues sometimes so i don't do them too often
>>2843161Many times and it’s one of the best experiences a person who enjoys the outdoors can have IMO. Be safe about it tho anons. Take 1g dry your first time and adjust from there. So many noobs to shrooms take too high of a dose and aren’t prepared for the experience.
>>2843178As far as I'm aware, you can't grow liberty caps. I've grown cubes, have plenty of those. But I've never found or tried semilanceata
>>2843181Try lemon-tech, tea, and ginger powder. Never had a problem with nausea or anything with that prep. >>2843207Apparently you can farm them, though. Rumours are that you can inoculate your lawn with it and spray diluted sheepshit fertilizer and it sometimes works. But if you can come by cubes easily, it's probably less hassle. Personally I like the process of hunting and picking liberty caps, but it requires a trained eye to identify with 100% certainty. When it comes to effect, I personally think liberty caps make for a "darker" trip. More introspection and clarity of thought, more of an autumnal/wintery feeling. Cubes provide more bliss and visuals in my experience - more summery. Scientifically there shouldn't be a difference, though, since it's just psilocin in the end
>>2843218>Scientifically there shouldn't be a difference, though, since it's just psilocin in the endThis is a common misconception. While psilocin is the primary active there are others like bufotenine that show up too. It's the entourage effect and ratio of psilocin to psilocybin that change the experience chemically. But set and setting also have a strong impact on how your brain reacts too. Most of my experience is with cubes. But I've grown lots of different varieties of them. The experience I've had has been different from the same mushrooms from the same flush, but taken on different days while in different moods. That's why I always take them several times before sharing them with friends. So I can tell them what to expect and give set and setting recommendations. Even then, they can have vastly different effects on different individuals based on their body chemistry. The experience will also changed based on the number of open serotonin receptors that the psilocin can interact with. TLDR There are many variables
>>2843161i can get high with friends or alone and have a good time but sperg out around strangers. i guess it's the inante instinct that it's not a good thing to do. but shrooms are nice if you're in a comfortable environment.
>>2843218i'll keep that in mind for next time, thank you>>2843230i'm the same way with weed, haven't done mushrooms around strangers but i'd imagine i would be the same way
>>2843207You can definitely grow liberty caps. They're harder but not impossible. I thought you were talking about shrooms in general though.
Do not try if you have underlying mental issues or can't handle weed, I'll just say this. Also, you don't need drugs to appreciate nature. It also leave you vulnerable in case of bad weather or self defense
>>2843284The only actives I've found while /out/ are these laughing gyms. I didn't bother harvesting them though, because they're said to be super bitter and only mildly psychedelic. And I grow cubes, so wasn't in need. I thought I found a massive patch of libs, but they were all psathyrellas. Every time I've thought I found libs they've been psathyrella.
>>2843285True for many things. It's important to mention that you shouldn't use mushrooms if you're on SSRIs. Psilocin is a serotonin receptor agonist. If you consume high doses of psilocyn while on SSRIs you can get into serotonin syndrome territory.
>>2843161I just knocked up some plates of jaliscoi like libs but havent hunted for them in years, cba desu though in the past ive spent entire weekends crawling around hills, once you get a mega patch you dont get up for hours odd kind of funtaking them in a dark sky zone is the best
I've gone hiking on LSD before, but never on shroomsI imagine it's similar but shrooms don't last as long and aren't energizing
mushroom :)
Yeah and it’s fucking amazing especially in the fall. Just enjoying the colours and laying next to a warm fire riding the high.
>>2843550Shrooms are more for a chill walk in a meadow than a hike, I did them at this part of the California coast recently was a good time. Just wandered around the grass areas and listened to the ocean which sounded scary on shrooms but in an awe inspiring way
>>2843612I have never seen an ocean, period. Seeing one for the first time while on shrooms would be wild
No, but I partake
>>2843161You are not "experiencing nature" while tripping. You are in fact putting an extra wall between you and the world, effectively locking yourself within your mind. Which can be fun, but don't pretend it's profound.
>>2843827Lol ok nancy reagan
>>2843826What are the benefits?
>>2843829Either your reading comprehension is zero or you have a very shaky opinion of your world view.
>>2843178>desire to know more intensifies
>>2843833CheckedIt kinda just makes you feel a bit drunk but only the body part, you stay pretty clear mentally and you get really vivid dreams. So you’re definitely not going to experience anything like shrooms but if you’re into that drunk/barbiturate feeling you’d enjoy it. (Do NOT eat them raw)
>>2843827Spoken like someone who has never tried. You pay MUCH more attention to your surroundings on shrooms. It's not necessary, of course, but it enhances the experience. Like like having wine with your food.
Yes.
How many days after rain is ideal? I found a bunch 5 days later, but only because all of them were dried up and bright in contrast to the grass. Now that it's colder and humid, many I see remain dark and sometimes rotten, and I don't know if I should act faster or wait more.>>2843178I would if I could find the spores.No, I am not ordering them from some fishy Dutch website.
>>2844317>I would if I could find the spores.Cube spores are 100% legal to buy and sell in the US unless you're in California, Georgia, or Idaho. You can find legit US sites to buy them from outside of those three states. Otherwise, you'll have to find a wild specimen, get some from a friend or join the shroomery and hang out long enough to get access to the marketplace.
>>2843827That's ketamine.>>2843288That's a myth. It's a partial agonist, so there is a limit to its max potential. It's also not targeting 1A receptors.The real issue is that you waste them due to desensitization.>>2843285Weed is not a good proxy for shroom affinity. The former is worse for schizos, while the latter is worse for bipolars.
If you need to alter your mind to enjoy nature you don't enjoy nature.
>>2844321Who said anything about need? Can you not enjoy it both ways? Or are you another autist prude?
>>2844320>The real issue is that you waste them due to desensitization.I can attest to this, It took a good dose, usually over 2g of potent cubes for me to feel it sometimes. But I've also had a very bad experience trying to push past with a dose of 10g. I got, what I thought were SS symptoms, flashing from burning up to freezing and shivering and back again, sweating profusely. I was on a fairly high dose of a SNRI at the time. I've since reduced the amount of the SNRI as low as I can. And I can take half gram doses and get a little giggly and brighter colors.
>>2843880disagree about clear mentallyI got so confused if i didnt have a trip sitter I'd of gone for a walk and got totally lost, to myself i kept teleporting about the house, time was all chopped up, like id start to do something, then teleport back in time to when i thought of doing it, and then be half way done, and then at the end, then the start, my blood pressure got so low i just kept napping out, and whatever i got fixated on as i passed out i would awake repeating that word, like my friend would say something and id just repeat the last word over and over and over and wake up to myself doing itit was like i was truly possessed, nothing else comes close, at one point i thought i was flying through space, but i was actually just chucking furniture about the room and spinning round and round really fast whilst i was staring up at the light bulbcomplete madnessat one point i thought i was in a dream, and then conscious me had woken up, and i was now trapped in this limbo state of a dream that no one is dreaminganother part i experienced the creation of the universe with each element from start to finish, first sound, then with the addition of light, and so on,time was very lurid and would speed up and slow down like a carouselutter madness drunkeness, yes, but clarity, absolutely not(this was 4 large caps, dried out over 5 days, partially rehydrated every day, then dried to crisp, then crushed up into a tea that was low boil for about 20 minutes)
>>2843162>What are the 20,000 silk road clones for $500 Alex
How much heat can they tolerate? I want to dry them in the oven, but I am afraid of killing their potency.
>>2844396But they grow wild. That's what I want to find. Buying cubes =/= finding libs
>>2844403Keep it under 200F and they will be fine. I dry my cubes in a food dehydrator set on 165F. I think you start losing potency over 225-250ish if I remember correctly.
>>2843161No, I prefer to experience this beautiful world as it is.
>>2844423Look for meadows with sheep in September (Northern Hemisphere).
>>2844454Thanks for the tip. But there are no sheep around here. Plenty of deer, the occasional escaped cow. I always check the piles they leave. But I've only ever found psathyrella growing from them, picrel
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>>2844455>>2844457Panaeolus papilionaceus, not psathyrella but unfortunately, a pan that's just as boring.
>>2844455You don't find them in manure. They grow where the grass has been fertilized by the creatures. See >>2844304Acidic soil is needed. If trees are naturally absent in a humid climate, Wales being a prominent example, you know it's a hotspot.
>dried out over 5 days, partially rehydrated every day, then dried to crisp, then crushed up into a teaTell me more about this
>>2844326>you're a prude for not being cripplingly addicted to drugs, requiring them to enjoy anything the world has to offer.No drugs made me enjoy the world more, they were a barrier between me and it. Stopping was the easiest thing I ever did.
>>2844501NTA... Don't do that with psilocybin mushrooms, it will destroy the potency. Moisture=bad. The faster you can dry them the better. Just keep them under 200F. Can't speak on amanitas or it's actives.
>>2844526>>2844526I mean for AmanitasThere's only three methods I have heard of>dehydrator drying, then making tea>sun drying, then tea >fresh caps boiled in acidic water to make teaI guess I have seen vodka tincture too but that was a Russian thing
>>2844523That is clearly not what i said. I think this thread isn't for you, anon.
>>2844530If you don't boil them, there will be ibotenic acid, which is probably not good for you.
>>2844425I had them in the oven set at 75C for a bit, and it seems like many of them darkened. Is this a bad sign?
>>284454475C should be fine. Darkening isn't a good sign, but might not be a too bad sign either. I've never dried them in he oven. Maybe you have hot spots or your oven gets hotter than you think? They don't darken in my dehydrator and it's running pretty close to 75C. I'd get an oven thermometer, if you don't have one already and test it around different spots in your oven. Some ovens swing, they overheat and then turn off until it gets below a certain threshold and then over heat again, keeping you in a window of about X temperature. But it would need to get to over 93C to hit 200F and I don't think you're likely to see that big of a swing, unless you have really bad hot spots.
>>2843827>psychonaut cope in the repliesSpot on though. Drugs are cool but dudes that pretend there's anything to be learned from it are consistently the worst people to be around.
>>2844538>nooooo you can't just enjoy the world you have to be high to enjoy it you're a prude for loving nature without having to be high!It's honestly sad how many people are so horrifically crippled by these addictions.
How do I find some as a guy that's never done drugs other than smoked a joint with my brother like 20 years ago? I wouldn't even know where to begin. I don't know of any sheep farms around here, but even if I did I sure as shit wouldn't be trespassing.
>>2843827This, but with opposite intention to what you're intending.Once you've tripped enough you realize that what you have left to experience after the colors, entities, revelations and search for meaning, is what's been there all along. Without ever having tripped at all, I doubt one could appreciate how grand the outside world is compared to the fantasies we make in our heads or on screens or paper. But at the end of the day, yes, what matters is to experience what's right in front of you.
There's this field near me that should be perfect for these, but hardly any mushrooms grow.
>>2844621Sure, dude. Very sad. Sorry this affects you, somehow
>>2844621>>2844523Cope.https://www.discovermagazine.com/classic-psychedelics-arent-addictive-42964
>>2844539>>2844530well for amanita musc and other ibo containing aminitas such as panthers, any form of decarboxylation is fine, hell you can even saute them and more than enough ibo is converted (maybe extra cook time for the panthers).
>>2844623Most weed dealers will know a guy with mushrooms
>>2844381he was taking about amanita dumbass
gonna go pick now only found a small amount really bad year in my places. spread spores around in a water bottle and imah hope for the best
How come there hasn't been /myco/logy thread the whole season? Don't people go mushroom picking anymore or is it just>Actually going outside>Pic related
>>2844694Went out timed the clock right so I'd arrive when the sun came up. I also picked an amanita probably will use it for decoration purposes.I looked at other cool mushrooms also. Found some chanterelles and funnel ones. Also found a nice butter flower I took a picture of it if anyone wants to see
Something wrong this year in my place. Very little growth so tried spreading spores around. Gonna see if it yealds if the weather holds up. Didn't pick last year and I'm wondering if someone over picked em or something. Thinking of trying to agar plate and planting mycelium out in different environments as an experiment. Anyway I hope you guys have a nice day.
This is the most I have found in a day this season, and now frost is kicking in.What a terrible year.
Only found a few.
>>2845388That should be enough for a light trip for going /out/. Soak them in lemon for half an hour to get max effect.
Me and 2 bros took them last week in a lavo next to a little pond in tha woods. My pal saw God in the stove and let smoke out in the entire lavo, when he was fire watch for a while. Also the Creek meltet together and was major KINO. 3 grams each and there was some rather nice fractals when I closed my eyes. We just let the smoke out and it was fine, but he stresset out a bit but it was no problem really. Would do again, only thing that was too mutch for a while was ALL the detail in some wood chips on the ground next to the lavo. The lavo was a public one placed by local volunteers, the old guy who was responsible for putting it up was walking with his wife the next day and we got to thank him for his work.
>>2845391>3 gramsDamn. I freaked out on just 1.5 grams. It wasn't even that visual, but the mindfuck was something I wasn't prepared for. It's like a reminder of what being 4 feels like.
i took a bunch in highschool and i do them every year or so since. they are fun. do them at night so you can see the stars are go to sleep if you start trippin out
>>2845402>Sleeping on shroomsFalling asleep even after the trip is already difficult enough. I'd have to knock myself out with benzos.
>>2843179Yeah I think shrooms are best experienced in nature. Like on a camping trip or something. Doing them in a city enviroment is a reciepe for a bad trip. And also remember to always carry your abort pills (aka any benzo) in your pocket while tripping. It gives you a sense of calm knowing you can abort the trip at any time so therefore you end up having a great trip and if you don't, well then you can abort it by eating some xanax or klonoping or etc.
>>2843198This. The first time I tried shrooms I ate like the cap of a really small one (no more then 1 gram - probably less). And that was a perfect dose for me.
>>2845439Hypothetically, could you spray a serotonergic antagonist to get an immediate escape without the downside of a depressant?Even if I had a benzo, I don't think I would be comfortable with waiting a bit to get an effect that doesn't even kill the trip.
>>2845439>And also remember to always carry your abort pillsWTF.....why would you abort it? Giving yourself an out ensures you'll never commit and learn the lessons the mushrooms are trying to give you. Are you really that afraid of what's in your own head? You know it's going to be over in under 6 hours no matter how much you take. And it will likely only peak for less than 2. Can you really not just sit back and let go? My mentality has always been, strap in, we're in for the ride now. Just like a roller coaster. How boring would it be to live a life where every time you got up to the top of the peak of the roller coaster you chickened out and stopped the ride. You'd never experience the thrill and exhilaration of the actual ride! You need to learn to let go anon.
>>2845376same here like kept tabs on the weather and should have been really good.. put almost zero will probably only last a week here at tops. started coming when frost came idk
>>2845447>Just like a roller coaster.Not that anon, but I was traumatized on a roller coaster as a kid. Being on a ride you have no control of triggers something innate in me.The trip killer IS that control one needs.
>>2845451Unless the coaster broke while you were on it and you were stuck on it for hours waiting for crews to rescue you, I don't see how a roller coaster can traumatize someone. If you're afraid to face your fears, you will never grow. Stress is necessary for growth. stress =/= trauma
>>2845453Believe me, I have tried. I can force myself to ride a rollercoaster until I acclimate, but as soon as I return next year, the nerves are back in full force.The safety is irrelevant. G force signals go straight to my amygdala.
>>2843827you're doing it wronghttps://www.brighteon.com/5f0f6ed1-4687-4ab2-a410-f00995151de6
>>2845456It's not a matter of building a tolerance. The anxiety is supposed to build as you climb the peaks. That's what makes the release of the fall all the more exhilarating. It's the same with psilocybin mushrooms. The come up period is always uncomfortable. I always think at some point, oh no, I shouldn't have done that. You always get that anxiety of losing control. To get over it, you just have to accept that you're in for a ride, and let go. Allow yourself to follow where the mushrooms take you. Sometimes, it's a lot of fun. And those times are....fun. But sometimes they can be extremely introspective, and those are the trips that will teach you lessons. Show you what you're avoiding thinking about. And leading to real positive life changes. But they are not fun. And if you always pull the eject whenever things get heavy, you'll never learn and grow.
I live in a place that's great for mushrooms. I can just find them on the ground around this time of year.I know nothing of what to do after harvesting them. What do I do now? How do I prepare them for consumption? Do I dry them somehow?
>>2845597You can wash them and eat them raw or put them on pizza or something. You can also boil them in water for a few minutes and drink the resulting tea (my preferred method). Dehydrate them and put them in an airtight jar if you wanna store them. Have a good trip.
>>2845597Just dry them on newspaper like you dry nutts you pick yourself
>>2845597A dehydrator is like $40 max - the quicker you dry them, the less potency you lose. Store them in mason jars. Vacuum seal the jars if you can. >>2845616>boiling psilocin o shit nibba what are you doin
>>2845885Not that anon, but I have made shroom tea many times with no loss of potency. In fact, I reckon it kicks in even faster and harder.
I've been on a few liberty cap forages this year already, want to try get another in within the next couple of weeks if possible.Can share some photos if there's any interest.
I can't tell the difference between the ones that are supposed to make me see shit, and the ones that have the Ultra Cyanide Poison Max 9000 which gives you Class-A ass cancer and kills you in mere minutes.Yes, I've seen some of the books that explain the differences. No, the differences are not big enough between species for an autist like myself to reliably tell between them, I don't trust myself around these mushrooms.I wish marijuana just grew everywhere naturally instead.
