Those who have been to Alps and Scandinavian mountains, which place did you enjoy more? Are there any good cheaper alternatives?
>>2843792>which place did you enjoy more?Swizterland : better mountains, far more people, more civilisation, far more expensiveNorway: better food, further from civilisation
>>2843793>far more expensive tha NORWAYWhat a hellhole
>>2843811Switzerland is fucking sweet, just costly and the food is surprisingly meh.
>>2843792Scandinavian hills.
Ive been to the northern french Alps and southern french Alps It's comfy especially during summerYou can find larches in Queyras and Mercantour and the Mediterranean sea isn't far My experience with Scandinavia is a part of the kungsleden and it was small trees, bogs and lot of mosquitoes
>>2843792the problem with switzerland isthe swiss, and being in walking distance of a city most of the timenorway is 100% a better /out/doors experience, just stay away from oslofrench alps are a good middle ground and the only of the 3 where you'll find good food
>>2844123What about Dolomites? Italians have great food.
>>2844123>the problem with switzerland is the swissthis
>>2844122>lot of mosquitoesthisBinland is 9/10ths mosquitoes, the rest is autistic drunks and pine trees.
>>2844125We're unironically full. We had an average of 3 deaths a day this summer season. Rescue choppers are in the air all day, every day, anywhere you go.There's this one instagrammable lake at the end of an EE track (experienced excursionist, proper attire needed). Went there late August. Dozens of normies queueing the ferrata with all sorts of dogs (usually clitlickers, labradoodles, the lot). 3 people trying to overtake eachother at the same time. People wearing flipflops. 3 parking lots the size of football fields full of cars. Went again 3rd week of September, middle of the week and it was barely any better. You're better off in Slovenia, Bulgaria or north of Bergamo.
>>2843792The Alps, there are greater changes and it might get far worse whilst Scandinavia in 7 years is probably going to be very similar. However I would recommend you to visit both if possible.The Alps are a cultural landscape with accessible history, in the center of fantastic major cultures in Europe. A lot of money has poured into the Alps in the last 200 years and it shows. You can go on high mountain ridges for days from hut to hut on an excellent trail network, meeting lots of mountaineers without the need of descending into a valley. The smaller mountain huts (below ~50 beds) can be very cozy, the bigger ones not so much.In Scandinavia you will experience wilderness, quietness and relaxation. You can camp and fish easily, you will feel more free. Unless you are taking a very popular route, you will be usually alone in the Scandinavian mountains outside of the parking lot. Usually you won't hear anything. The mountains are smaller but should not be underestimated, you have often the same experience as in the Alps.Don't expect to see that much wildlife in any case. The vegetation of the Alps is more interesting and the northern part of Scandinavia is just birch swamp forests. In Norway you can see mountains going right out of/into the Ocean, Sweden has vast forests of wilderness. Check this out: https://www.norgesnasjonalparker.no/en/>Are there any good cheaper alternatives?Considerably cheaper: Caucasus (Georgia). Balkan and Carpathian Mountains are enjoyable too but imo less interesting. Worth if you are interested in the respective countries/cultures.>>2843793>Norway: better foodWhat exactly? Almost everyone I know complains about the food here.
>>2844123>the problem with switzerland is the swissAs someone who lives in Switzerland, I agree. Though, it isn't that bad and I don't often come across people on the trails that I hike. >>2843792The more popular the trail, the more people. Best to avoid Zermatt altogether. Check out the swisstopo app for hiking trails.
Alps, no contest.Just remember sunscreen, even early in the year. I learned that the hard way
>>2844123>being in walking distance of a city most of the timeNever been /out/ in Switzerland.
>>2843792not really a fair comparison. the alps are by far the most montainous if thats what you want. norway might look as mountainous but one you reach a peak you can get faced with 100km of pic related on the backside. norway is more tundra and taiga than swiss alps.
>>2845498>t. butthurt swiss
>>2844123>the problem with switzerland is>the swissexplain
>>2845379>sunscreenjust put a cotton shirt on and a hatpetroleum cream causes melanoma
>>2845709Have you never met them?
>>2843792You certainly shouldn't go to Norway if you want cheap. The one thing that is nice about Norway in terms of money is trust and rights to roam so TECHNICALLY, you could just walk in and sleep in public cabins, but for most people that is too hardcore and with no guarantee there actually being space in one.Another avenue is, and this is what I say to anyone with wanting to come here. Hands down the best way experience Norway and it's nature is boating along the coast, stopping at places and then hike up the mountains along the coast. But obviously too time consuming for normies and requires one to be a marineEnjoyer.For various other reasons it make the country inaccessible as a quick go to tourist type place. Like >>2844382 points out though, things are getting more crowded and IN GENERAL people are getting pissy. Most tourists to norawy just comes in big tourists boats and shit in the fjords. The way we live our modern lives are unironically getting in the way.having said that, normies chase vistas because they are unable to appreciate nature. Grab a book or two about vegetation and geology and you can unironically get a lot more out of your trips. There has to be cheaper places though. Bottom half of Europe is basically all mountains
