the one that doesn't kill me

the shrooms grade

>>2843965
>Easy has the nps stairs

Maybe I'm just becoming an old Karen but it actually pisses me off when I'm in a national park or recreation area and they don't even take the time to make the stairs on marked trails. If this is some special area paid for with tax dollars and the trail is marked on the publications don't make me scramble up a fucking wash.

The grade without other people on it.

>>2843965
Moderate, Hard and Very Hard without the chains. If you need chains or ladders to safely get up and down, you shouldn't be on that kind of slope to begin with.

They’re all fun in their own way. Exploring long-abandoned forest service roads (particularly old dirt roads rather than gravel) is really fun, but ultimately pretty easy.

>>2843970
If you’re in a park and only a few miles from the trailhead they should absolutely have stairs and well marked, maintained trails. It prevents people from cutting switchbacks, stops erosion, and keeps the trails from being totally trashed from heavy foot traffic.

Go to a national park that has shelters with privies and compare it to a wilderness area where anything goes. The park will have well worn trails from millions of yearly visitors but the wilderness area will have dozens of superfluous fire rings and human shit and toilet paper in established campsites.

>>2843973
Implying you would actually go through very hard without the chain

>>2843980
"very hard"
That's a third class scramble on dry and stable rock. I have cleared sections like those countless times. It's not that difficult

>>2843979
Nigger you haven't actually been to national parks other than the big ones.

Arches is the best national park. You can literally wheel a retard to most of it.

The very first hike in Canyonlands is 6 miles of brutality.

>>2843965
>>2843980
This is a very euro-centric post. The state of /out/ on your entire continent is, well, disappointing.

>>2843965
I like social trails. I don't like developed trails.

I also prefer trails that go straight up, I hate switchbacks wasting my time.

>>2843965
very easy without a hundred of other people looks the most comfy for sure nothing better than just coasting 25 miles on that shit without seeing another soul, bliss.

The problem with this is that there are plenty of places that are relatively low angle but require way more routefinding effort because of vegetation or canyon structure and are harder to get through than a steep open rock slope that you can easily see and find a way up

>>2843982
>he thinks the canyonlands trails are brutal
Try actually leaving the trails and exploring the canyons

>>2844053
If only I had a giant dick like you ..

>>2843965
I've only ever hiked in one place that had chains. But with or without chains I'd say moderate to hard. Very hard I would try with chains. I like hiking and scrambling but not big on rock climbing.

>>2843965
Sorry I'm fat up, Very Easy to Easy down on my mountain bike.

>>2843965
I dont hike mountains. None near me. I just wander through woodland and prairie land.

>>2843983
And we're sharing that which exists on this board. If you don't like it you can leave.

>>2843970
>nps stairs
Thats for erosion control, dipshit.

>>2843970
>>2843979
The "stairs" in "Easy" honestly make them harder. It's a gentle slope to begin with. A smooth path would be easier to walk up than one where you have to randomly take a big step up every 3-4 steps. It's basically a tripping hazard in reality and almost never needed in reality given the slope of the switchback. Steps only make sense in aggressive switchbacks.

>>2843965
The harder the better. What's the point if there is no challenge?

>>2843965
Moderate to hard

>>2843971
Doesn't exist anymore.

>>2843965
I literally don't care as long as it's not paved and it not a talus field. I go hiking to appreciate the views, not the trail.

>>2843965
Moderate, I like a good scramble so I can LARP as a climber.

>>2843965
Easy. I like to enjoy my surroundings when I'm on a hike. Anything harder than easy and you're constantly staring at your feet and huffing and puffing. It makes it harder to enjoy the nature. But I also don't like being surrounded by normies, and I do like venturing into the wilderness.

>>2844160
Based Prairie Walker.