Its that time guys.Any deals out there this year? Usually la nina years are great for finding good deals on silvers, lots of sales because its gonna be a mild winter
I just buy the nylon crap every major box store sells and it works. I'm up for two light weights and 1 medium weight now. I've thought about spending 400 bucks on the hunter merino stuff but I ain't got the money to draw an elk tag so fuck that
>>2845521Doesnt the nylon get super stinky? I usually go for merino when I have the cash or cotton when I dont
>>2845520>gonna be a mild winterIf german winter were any more mild we'd just call it autumn.
>>2845526it because those global warming?
>>2845522Oh yeah it stinks. But if you don't stink are you really hunting. The hunter detergents get rid of tide. The animals don't give two flying fuks if you smell like balls. They care if you smell like tide detergent.
>>2845539I guess? We used to have weeks of snow, now it's days at best. Sleeding through the forest, now it's all mud. Last year we didn't have a single day of full snow cover where I live.
>>2845520I like Stanfield's heavy-weight 80/20. Two pieces only. Hate the 1-piece.
It would be really nice to get some photos of YOU guys wearing your undies....
>>2845566>Stanfield's heavy-weight 80/20you first
>>2845520For me it’s the fish and chicken platter
>>2845600/ck/ is that way===> >>/ck/
>>2845520Yes, at the age of 35 I finally got into "thermal underwear" as they are called here. What a gamechanger - I am stood there in the street with a set of these on, the harsh wind blowing, and all I feel is comfy in comfy town. I was struggling to keep a hoodie on in fact.I think a life where you can wear a fresh set every day is the way forward. Mine were just cheap ones from amazon but now I wonder why I walked around feeling winter cold for all those years.
>>2845632>"thermal underwear" as they are called here.you need to teach your people to call them Long John Silvers or LJS for short
>>2845520Just scored half off on smartwool ones through Sierra last week. Don't get the base layer tops though; itchy AF despite being called merino, and probably why those are discounted.
>>2845731Do you have a link?
>>2845520Does no one have the original Long John Silvers thread photo?
When this board was started, it was so slow. Not many people were into camping or hunting so /out/ did not get much traffic/Then popular culture shifted and young people fancied themselves outdoorsy. This place became pretty fun for a while with lively, edgy discussion and humor. This thread was a yearly staple.Now the storm has passed and far fewer people go camping. All my favorite places are just about empty again like when I was a kid. Its really lovely.I do miss what this place once was though
First frosty day and I am breaking out the LJS from last year.I am down to two per and need to replemish the flock.Would love to hear suggestions
>>2845520Just *how* good can these things be? I've got a few cheap sets and they definitely improve my daily life a ton for simple garments. But the ones I bought, though good, were also cheap.How warm do these things get, when you spend the money?
>>2846372Have you ever tried merino wool socks? Its like that
>>2846372There's a limit where knit fabrics are just too heavy and you're better off wearing padded pants. But yeah, a woolpower 400 is pretty damn warm.
>>2845631>missing the joke this much Humor is wasted on zoomie parasites
>>2846372100% cozy.
>>2845520In the NE US I bought about 3 or 4 each tops and bottoms a couple of years ago at walmart when they went on clearance in the early spring for like $2 each. I went back a week later and the only ones left were the opened ones and a couple 3XL ones. They may have just sold out but I suspect a reseller went in and just cleaned them out which they seem to do with a lot of cheap clearance stuff lately.
>>2846568this makes me angry people are so greedy I hate resellers so much
>>2845520Turns out /fa/ is also having a long john silvers thread>>18572715I hope you dont mind me inviting them over here to audit ours
>>2846680>>18572715 (OP)
>>2846680>Will wearing long johns help me fuck girls who look like this?No. Now go back to your containment board.
I have started to wear my loungewear inside out. There is just no good reason to not do this, it’s way more comfortable on the inside without all the stitching. You can even buy stuff that was already made inside out, now that’s smart.
Yesterday I wore brynje top and bottoms under a jacket and pants in this weather and it was nice and cozy.
>>2846694those are sweat pants not LJS
Looking for the absolute cheapest LJSAmazon or Walmart? froot of the loom will do
what about silks
>>2847357Not as good as merino when it comes to wicking sweat, also not as good for body odour. Depending on how well it's made, silk usually tear easier. But in my opinion it feels better on the skin than the other alternatives. Less weight, less bulk as well. Perhaps a merino-silk blend could do well (not tried it myself).
>>2847382>Not as good as merino when it comes to wicking sweatPerhaps not, but its far sexier
>>2847276Stanfield's site has a 25% merino long sleeved top on clearance for $20 Leafbucks. Small only, tho.
>>2847439a man of culture i see
>>2847440dang!https://www.stanfields.com/products/mens-merino-polyester-blend-2-layer-henleyI cant with the polyester though
>>2845600Is it true this is the only place to get fish & chips in US&A?
>>2847633Many bar and grill are also able to have thatJust google them when you gets hungry
>>2845524is that really necessary ?
>>2848101It's better to make the bear focus on the dick than your throat.
>>2848141Very wise anon. Are you a doctor?
>be me>wear 100% cotton thermals>never been caught
>>2848200Why would you be worried about being caught?
>>2848200You have now. We've got you surrounded! Come put on your merino silvers!
>>2848200ARREST THIS MAN
>>2848200>>2848203>>2848210>>2848218kek
>>2848210>merino silvers
>>2846207once you break the age of 25 the passage of 5 years won't seem that serious to you.
got some merino long johns from icebreaker like two years ago and they already have 2 big holes, not happy with that. also they heavily advertise their wool coming from scotland and how sustainable their products are but the product itself is produced in china, which they fail to mention on their homepage.will not buy again. any other merino long johns recommendations?thinking of maybe getting ones from smart wool
>>2848463I heard at other places too that icebreaker has declined in qualityTry woolpower. They produce for the military, I have a slightly higher trust that they keep up the quality in their products.
>>2848469They're also family owned, which is another indicator that they'll not suddenly cheap out.
>>2848463Taiga
>>2848463>>2848469>>2848475Any wool product that does not itch has been heavily processed and coated with plastic. Acid baths and all kinds of shit. This is why they dont last and get holes super quick.
>>2848479Nonsense. The plastic coating does in fact make the wool more durable. Merino lacks durability because it is thin. Which can be alleviated by blending it with synthetics.
>>2848484The plastic does not make up for degradation of the acid bath
>>2848485i just found an article that claims that icebreaker is 97 percent plastic free, meaning they try to avoid plastics in their products as much as possible. where do you get that their products are plastic coated? genuinely curious, i dont have a good opinion of this brand, but from my understanding, plastic in clothing is used in the form of nylon/elastan threads. to me it seems, like the other anon said, that their long johns are super thin.>>2848469>>2848478thanks! will look into.
>>2848491Superwash is a plastic coating, look it up.
>>2848491Hidden Plastics (Coatings): Even products labeled "100% merino wool" that are machine washable might be coated in a fine, permanent plastic polymer resin (a "superwash" treatment) to prevent shrinking. This coating is not typically listed as a percentage of the fabric content but is a key part of the manufacturing process for easy-care wool products.
>>2848493>>2848502thanks!interesting, did not know but i suspected as much. the irony is that i am buying clothes made from natural materials to not have to deal with stuff like this. no wonder our planet is covered in plastic, they literally cover everything in it...
>>2848518I also have dilling merino. They use alternative surface treatments and it's decently durable. Gotta wash it on low temperature in wool cycle though. Not the only company to do that either, but the common normie, myself included, prefers being able to wash it together with cotton and synthetics.
>>2848519ah wow! that's pretty much what i was looking for, thank you very much!
I am going to dig out my old smartwool shiirt and have a look at it
Its a tiny bit grey guise! I am going to put on my LJS for the first time this season!
Should I go for two 100% merino 200gsm Dilling bottom base layers for winter or two 80% merino 20% polyamide blend? Poly seems good for the durability but I will be wearing them for a long time and in the cold so 100% also seem like a good option.
>>2849406I don't think the disadvantages of synthetic content outweigh the advantage of durability.
>>2849406I prefer cotton
>>2849465Your /out/ card, hand it in.
>>2849465May the forest spirits guide you through this dark path.
>>2849475>>2849486Cotton is still the best and does not stink like sinthentics
>>2849538No, cotton holds more body odor than synthetics, especially in winter. It takes longer to evaporate sweat which collects body oils that attracts bacteria. Synthetics is still bad at this as well, but not as much as cotton.Cotton>heavy when wet>doesn't wick, only soaks>doesn't insulate when wet>makes you even colder when wet>takes longer to dry than synth and wool>rots easier than wool>less warm than synthetics (unless it's canvas)You're supposed to go either wool (or wool+synthetic blend) if you're outdoors for a long time, or synthetic if it's a short weekend trip, or your workplace. The only advantages I can see with cotton is the price tag and environments that are warm with little to no humidity. If that's your environment you could also try linen and hemp.
>>2849583>doesn't wick, only soaksI wish people would stop misusing that term. >to absorb liquid from something and remove itYes, cotton wicks, and extremely well. Synthetics actually doesn't wick as much, since it *absorbs* far less, but the wicking property is likewise desired (that's why they use microfibres and special fibre shapes like in coolmax). The advantage in synthetics lies in also releasing that water, much faster than cotton.>unless it's canvasErr?
>>2849597I believe there's been a miscommunication due to my shitty English. Cotton does have wicking behavior in the technical sense, because it absorbs water and spreads that moisture through the fabric. I understand what you mean there, and you're right about how the fibers behave. Your reasoning falls within lab-sense while mine's from practical Scandinavian outdoor usage. The difference shows up in how the two materials handle moisture after it has moved. Cotton holds onto the water it absorbs, so it stays wet for a long time while providing no insulation, which leads to feeling cold, heavy, and damp in outdoor conditions that I can not afford. People in my country has always gone for wool, or certain synthetics (some with inner-mesh, especially the military), but what type of synthetics are not always easy for there are so many it is maddening. Synthetics don't absorb water into the fibers as much like you said, so moisture stays on the surface and can move outward and evaporate much more quickly, and this why synthetic fabrics usually feel dryer.I think we’re mostly using the word "wick" in different ways. In the lab-sense cotton wicks very well, but in real-world outdoor use, synthetics and wool tend to manage moisture more effectively without the downside of lost insulation and longer drying time. For base layers, cotton would lead to illness and at worst death up her in the north. But its effectiveness for windproofing and cold outer shells is amazing if the weight could be ignored, ex: gaiters, waxed cotton canvas shelters, windproof anoraks, etc (I use them all).Since the topic was originally about which would be preferably to buy for winter, the loss of majority of its insulation and how long the moisture linger and that it would be used for a long time (hence wool's anti-bacterial properties). Wool or a wool+synthetic blend would be more applicable for serious outdoor usage.
What the fuck even is this thread, the answer is obviously silk. If you need more because you're spending an extending amount of time outside, wool after the silk. Entire thread is big wool shilling against small silk
>>2849642All of what you say is correct anon, but you still misused the term. Many people on the internet do, probably because marketing speech has made "wicking" the primary desirable property of sportive clothing. And that's only half the truth, because cotton is the most wicking fabric of them all.
>>2849642I have never had cotton fail me even wehn I got it wet with sweat
>>2849765I love cotton, and its all that I wear as an underlayer, but I will admit when it gets wet in the winter you do get cold and you do need to bring changes of clothes with you if you are gonna sweat and hike in winter...
>>2849772Wet from snow or wet from sweat? I have had the former happen for sure but not the latter
