>gun? heh, I just carry bear spray, it's actually more effecti-
pocket phosgene
>>2849652he should be the one who attacks
>>2849658now consider that grizzlies normally silently watch you approach then charge completely unexpectedly
>>2849660is that real?i thought bears normally keep to themselves, but can attack if there's young, or if they get spooked/nervousi mean, i didn't think they went out of their way to stalk/attack peoplei'm a retard, sorry for poor writing
>>2849665it's a battle for survival anon, kill or be killed
>>2849672i see...
>>2849660cool but I live in europe and we already solved bear problem, ngl we solved all wild animals here
There is no weapon you can pull out and use in time to stop the bear as it is on that course thing. The fastest person may be able to get shots on it and the luckiest may even be able to kill it eventually. But it will still land on and maul you before it dies.
>>2849652Ah yes, because pulling a gun out of a proper holster and aiming is so much easier!If you get within 20 feet of a bear to begin with you are a moron and have no situational awareness.
>>2849683You didn't solve it. You turned your entire continent into a shithole. That's cringe bruv.
>>2849652How exactly is the gun supposed to be faster? That's the point of the webm right?I practice the shirt lift draw on the range at least 4 times a year. And bro did pretty good.
>>2849709i figured the point was more "if there's a big 600lb (or whatever) bear charging toward you, spraying it with anything won't help much, and a gun probably won't either"
but it seems unlikely to have a bear CHARGING toward you in the first place
>>2849711based retard
>>2849665Grizzlies will hunt people if they're hungry. That hunger ramps up just before and just after hibernation. The less familiar a bear is with humans, the more likely it is to hunt them.Polar bears will hunt humans at any time of year.Black bears generally leave us alone, though they can cause problems if they learn that there's good eatin' in going through people's trash.
>>2849713thank you(i want to kill myself all the time, i think i had a stroke last year, i'm 22 years old)
>>2849715ah, tyvmthat's fuckin scary, i knew grizzlies were more aggressive than black bears, but i didn't know they sometimes hunt people
>>2849726Just do it bro.
>>2849728maybe soon
2 more weeks
>>2849683>ngl we solved all wild animals hereWhat about the refugees?
>>2849728See a psychologist.
>>2849652>just park your child in the stroller right next to the line of fire down the rangeThey don't try this with real spray, do they?
>>2849726I didn't ask.
>>2849751>insist on placing the little boy face-first next to the fast moving object and spray>little boy is too young to even give a damn>meekly roll him away slightly afterwards "just in case" aftewardsFucking retardation of modern women, and never a man in sight to laugh them into behaving appropriately, why?
>>2849751>>2849780>pearl clutching and virtue signaling over some random shitty toddler in a webmThose biological clocks must be going absolutely nuts. Get a grip, you sad sacks.
>>2849665>is that real?No. Griz want nothing to do with you. The vast majority of dangerous encounters are people suprising them or getting to close to their food or cubs. They are not very aggressive but they are very defensive. >Grizzlies will hunt people if they're hungryits extremely rare that a griz will attack and consume a human.
>>2849784i see....
>>2849652Good thing a gun will work better right?
>>2849786what's the lightest anti-material rifle for minimalist hikers in bear country?
>>2849792It'd have to be AI controlled to adequately deal with a bear
>>2849652I would love one of those machines for rifle training
>>2849795eheheh
if a bear is charging you at max speed with zero obstacles in between and you don't have your bear spray or gun already out you already fucked up>>2849665no
>>2849711>Be me>Hunting birds in the uplands outside Idaho Falls>Big thicket looks very birdy>Dog runs up to it>Hope it ain’t a porcupine>Adolescent grizz about the size of that black bear comes busting out chasing the dog off>Shoot into the air because steel birdshot ain’t doing shit and I’m 60 yards behindOPs webm is actually terrifyingly accurate. Bear fucked off back to the thicket and we dipped the fuck out but yeah could have been bad.
>>2849697Jerry Miculek could empty a revolver into it and reload.
>>2849873damn...i guess the dog might've saved you, in a way
dog and the gun
>>2849652Surely a device like a clowns flower would work better? It would be worn facing forwards and you could keep the squeezy bit attached to your wrist for a quick squirt.
>>2849880I wouldn’t have been messing around in that thicket if I hadn’t had the dog but I was not anywhere where bears should be either. I’m guessing it’s mom drove him off and it was out there avoiding the big boys. If you look into the stats there are a shit ton of bear encounters involving dogs. I bring slugs with me now whenever I hunt east of the Snake River.
>>2849880>>2849873No, the dog is what brought it on. This is a common scenario of bear attacks. Person lets dog offleash, they charge into brush and startle a bear, bear reacts and attacks dog, person gets involved either trying to save dog or because the dog brought the bear back to them, bear attacks person.
>>2849970still, assuming there's a bear out there & the person is unaware of it, wouldn't it be a better outcome for the dog to startle it than the person?or is a lone person more likely to notice it beforehand?if it's a common scenario, i wonder what would have happened in each case if the person didn't have a dog, that's all>>2849927i see
>>2849973if the person didn't have a dog the bear would have been scared by the human and left they likely would have never interacted.
>>2849926I’ve been wondering about some kind of pepper filled claymore you can strap to your chest like a suicide vest and deploy with a string pull like a reserve parachute. We had training IEDs with bulbs of them that made a little cloud of flour. Make it spicy and deploy on major impacts and that could do a decent job even if you get caught by surprise. No way you don’t get smoked too but it beats getting mauled to death.>>2849970This is accurate. We do have to share the landscape but I intentionally don’t hunt with a dog in the mountains for this reason. The issue usually arises when bears aren’t where bears are supposed to be. If some dipshit takes his doodle hiking off leash around Bear Lake…hey they should have known better.>>2849973In the scenario of human and dog walking down trail yes the dog getting eaten is better than a human but dogs and bears are way more likely to fuck with each other than bears and humans. Double edged sword.
>>2849982>>2849983i see, ty
>>2849652I used to live in the woods with a bunch of black bears. Basically there's an old Indian trick where you just pretend you're mistaking them for family members so they don't get self conscious, like if you wander into a group of them just say "oh sorry didn't see you there grandpa" and then just walk away.Best experience I ever had with them was one morning I woke up to a couple young ones playing tag and splashing around in the water on the other side of a small beaver pond I was camping next to. Worst experience was turning a corner on a trail and running right into a mom and her two cubs. They're basically big puppy dogs though. Grizzlies will fuck you up on the other hand.
>>2849780Tbf he probably told her she needed to move but she stood there still, defying his mansplaining
>>2849926>>2849983Believe it or not, but this is the ideal solution for bear defense.Literally peak performance
>>2849879But the bear would still maul him before it died
>>2850332is that a fuckin outward facing claymore on his forehead?
>>2850454Well he wouldn't have it facing inwards, that would be dangerous.
I fear mountain lions more than bears. Harder to see, will actually stalk you and will attempt to do so stealthily
>>2851152And will actually attack you unprovoked. Bears, for the most part, want a reason to attack. Mountain lions will attack with the reason being that they think they can take you (they can).
>>2849683>europeWow just no bears on the entire, vast, varying climate land of europe huh?
>>2849701>Europe turned the entire planet into a shithole
>>2849683>we already solved bear problemyou didn't solve anything
>>2851245theres bears in northern scandinavia, eastern europe and the balkan.
>>2849652>This is why I chose the bear.
>>2849879Twice, more likely, and all his shots would be in a 1in circle through one of its eyes. That man is a fucking machine. Lena's got done of his talent, but Jerry's a once in a century freak.
>>2849983> pepper filled claymore you can strap to your chest like a suicide vestAre you that same retard who was posting this on /k/ the other day, or are you a different retard?
>>2849970This literally happened here in Canada just a year ago. >Couple goes camping with their tiny rat dog>Dog runs off into the brush>Spooks black bear>Black bear starts chasing the dog, the dog runs back to the couple>Couple uses TWO whole cans of bear spray>Bear just comes back and kills them and their dog.Never let your dog wander off in bear country, also bring a gun.
>>2851667It was a grizzly bear and nobody knows what happened. The dog was found starving a month later or something. They were attacked at camp based on the fact the bear spray was discovered empty at the camp site.
>>2849652A bear will not attack like that. It will jumpon you at the end.
>>2852255Maybe it would be better to spray yourself so you are too unpleasant for the bear to jump on?
>>2851667how could they have determined that course of events if they both were killed?
>>2850431An animal can’t maul you if its brains are more hole than brain.
>>2849652You can't just carry bear spray around everywhere. It would be like carrying a 20 oz can of red bull in your pocket at all times.
>>2849715If it's black, fight black. If it's brown, lie down.If it's white, say goodnight.
>>2852481I would always fight back because I carry a knife. If I'm getting mangled, so is the bear. That is the saying though.
>>2852480Clearly you don't know any of Seattle's hobos.
>>2849784Still most kills come from them being hungry and finding humans to be good eating.
>>2852480What? You can certainly carry bear spray around when you hiking. its lighter than a gun. They make chest and hip holsters for it.
>>2852492Incorrect. Most deaths from grizzly attacks are from people suprising them at close range and/or being viewed as a threat to their cubs or food. Very few humans who are killed by grizzly bears are consumed by them. The bears that do eat the body are the ones that get killed for their actions.
>>2849834sapient pointeven though quite possiblythe spray he delivered in the time may have been enoughIt may not want to continue attacking
>>2849697The rule of thumb standard to achieve for concealed carry of firearms for defense against niggers in the USA is a 3 second draw to shot on target. The bear in that video charged the man in roughly 3 seconds as well. Granted, maybe only the top 1/3rd of USA shooters might achieve the standard and could've landed at least one shot on the bear before it reached them, and there's no guarantee a single shot will stop or deter the bear unless you miraculously dome it perfectly (luck more than skill, but maybe top 1% of USA shooters might be able to pull that off intentionally first try). Training to defensively shoot niggers is actually decent training to defensively shoot bears thoughever, both require low individual trust and high situational awareness along with time sensitive hand-eye coordination training.
>>2849683Wait until you find that retards purposefully imported bears in the southeastern Alps to play the little happy kingdom of the cutepie bloodthirsty beasts in the forest. As a cherry on top, handgun carry is illegal, rifles strictly for hunting and bear spray is illegal. They have already killed several retards in just a few years, and attacked many more. Worthless imbeciles with a little bit of power are by far the most dangerous beast. >>2851247>The entire planet turned Europe into a shitholeFtfy
>>2853331Read "Shooting to live" by W. E. Fairbairn.
>>2849683Slovakia has like 2000 bears, I just saw one a few weeks ago while mountainbiking
>>2853331>>2849697>>2849879>>2850431
>>2853716extremely dishonest comparison as the shooter already has his gun drawn and ready and is anticipating it's use, aside from the fact he is obviously a competitive shooterEven the guy in the video you linked would not be able to draw and fire in that timeframe in a scenario where his firearm is holstered and he is caught by surprise
>>2853716is this supposed to make a point?
>>2853748Jerry could do it holstered toohe's also ancient as fuck so why not count that
>>2853711Yes, but attacking people was made illegal in the bear laws that were passed in 1976, so he'll be perfectly safe
>>2853748also jerry is firing a target pistol so he doesn't really have to worry about recoil, and isn't under the pressure of a giant bear charging at him. of course, neither is the guy with the spray, but his scenario is more realistic than a target shooting session.
>>2851436Italy, Spain and France have bears too. A couple years back a bear from Asturias even crossed border to Portugal. Per capita Romania is like top 3 for most bears in the world.It's quite astonishing the lack of knowledge that people have about nature on a outdoors board.
>>2855292>also jerry is firing a target pistol so he doesn't really have to worry about recoilJerry shoulder fired .50 BMG at that speed, lying loser.
>>2849665Polar bears are the only ursus species that actively hunt humans afaik. The rest figured out that people are mean as fuck and we also have large caliber firearms to kill the shit out of them with. So, I guess all the other bears got the message and went ahead and fucked off.
>>2849715Black bears are huge pussies. I want to hunt a black bear with a Bowie knife because I know I would fuck that bear's world up. And I would wear it's head as a hat and the rest of it's hide as underwear and socks for the rest of my days.
>>2849726>I want to kill myself all the time Stop being such a pussy dude. Life is hard and a lot of the time it sucks. Go get whiskey drunk and hire a hooker for the night like a normal man ffs. But mostly, quit acting like a bitch.
>>2849728Fuck you faggot. I would knock your teeth down your throat if I had the opportunity.
>>2849730Don't listen to that peice of shit dude. Suicide is for pussies and fags. And probably trannies also. But fuck that guy. I would cave in his skull with a framing hammer if I could.
>>2849780If by "laugh", you mean viciously beat them with belts and thumb-diameter sticks, then yes. We should "laugh" at them until they get their act together.
>>2849786Yes. An M60 or MG42 will always give a the defender an advantage.
>>2853748Nigga, you zesty as hell.
>>2850454No.
>>2852295That.... That is a high fucking IQ move right there. You win the internets today, sir.
>>2849699The dude doesn't look like he ever practiced that draw and it snagged like all hell. A gun is not a fix all but it could have worked better than this spray.
>>2855579All animals should have the fear of man upon them since the days of Noah unless they have been tampered with.
>>2849699>Ah yes, because pulling a gun out of a proper holster and aiming is so much easier!>doesn't hike with a rifle at low ready
Honestly if you are worried about a bear charging you head on in open terrain just carry a 12 ft pike so it impales itself. Or maybe a Shepard's hook so you can give the reach around and jab it in the asshole. I bet it wouldn't feel like coming at you then. Unless it's, you know, the other kind of bear.
