>>2850409
:3c

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Its real dink posting hours
>>2850409
>>2850414
Imagine being this worked up about minor formatting errors on a mongolian basket weaving forum

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>>2850406
Holy false equivalency batman!

Im honestly jealous of you to be honest i wish my biggest problem was formatting errors in a fishing thread on a Filipino banana carving forum.

For real, though, whats actually wrong with it? The paste bin is there, the subjet is fishihg general, the op is a chick with fish the counter has gone up. I genuinely dont understand why you're screeching like chimps over it.

>>2850421
>>2850418
Oops forgot to include that.

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I figured the bald spots out. If i overload my dubbing noodle it clumps and the clumps dont fold back and fill out properly.

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>>2850443
Yeah i was definately overfilling my dubbing loops ypu can see how much more consostent the top one is vs the patchy bullshit going on with the bottom one

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Fish.

>>2850406
>>2850410
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>>2850421
>>2850422
I nominate Skid to start all future threads, just to piss of the chuds. Great job Skid! It's hilarious watching them seethe

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B I G
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>>2850406
She has to be aware.
Right (?)

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>>2848116
>Shimano reels only
>NFC custom, Loomis, or Shimano rods only
>Megabass, OSP, Deps lures only
>Owner and Ryugi hooks only
>Sunline only, both fluoro and braid
>Arc'teryx, Patagonia layering only
>Rolex sport steel stunnas only

>>2850535
Holy shit. I did not notice it until you mentioned it. That's bad.

>Defaced OP
>Again
>The retard link him getting grilled in the last thread thinking he's having a point
>make a fool on himself instead
lead in the brain i guess

>>2850560
What were you trying to say there, buddy? I can't quite interpret your retard voice.

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26 inches, 6.5 pounds, 5 gallon bucket

>>2850406
Actually and seriously kill yourself. You took one of my favorite generals and keep fucking it up 4 times in a row because your adhd riddled brain can't handle spending 30 seconds checking your submission.
And I can't even filter your obnoxious trip or the thread doesn't show on the catalogue.
I wish you to only get snags and parasite infested catches until you change your ways.

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>>2850626
>because your adhd riddled brain can't handle spending 30 seconds checking your submission.
it's worse than that, it's not adhd, it's not a mistake, the jumping the shark comment made it obvious, he's doing this on purpose because he think it's funny or something
skid as been there since 2016, he's an election tourist but in almost a decade he should have learned how to use a post form at least
so now this thread is just complaining about skid, skip going on as usual pretending nothing happened, and his boyfriend defending him

>>2850634
Is there a way to filter trips but exclude OPs the same way you do with regex rules on 4chanX?
That's how I usually treat these people, but I don't want to filter the entire general with it.

>>2850634
>>2850640
Turns out the same regex flags you can use apply to trips too. Neat, in that case nevermind.

>>2850626
>>2850634
If you cucks would have stopped coomposting, Skid wouldn't have made a single thread. Instead, I have see pictures of ugly women with plastic smiles, fake tits, and fish they didn't catch. I don't give a fuck about formatting if it's going to make you mald like this. If we can get a commitment to stop this cuckery, I'm sure we can get an agreement for proper formatting or a different OP than Skid.

>>2850664
Turn the trip back on so I don't have to see your mindless posts.

Bought some of them polaroid fish finding glasses and i reckon they're a scam cause i aint caught nothing

>>2850589
November's been a good month for you man, nice. On the other hand, I've been skunked on my last two trips and lost 3 lures. The river giveth and taketh I suppose.

>>2850666
>>2850666
they have to read the chart, satan

>>2850719
Yeah its been pretty decent. I got skunked the first couple months but now i seem to be on 'em

Ive been looking at fly fishing gear and it seems fairly pricy.
Are there any combos or setups you can get for 100-150 that will be good to learn on?
There were okuma and pflueger setups around that price and then various eagle claw and no name setups for much less
Will i hate myself trying to learn on a budget rod/reel?

>>2850870
>and it seems fairly pricy.
fly fishing to fishing kinda became like golf to ball sports, but you can get away for cheap
>Are there any combos or setups you can get for 100-150 that will be good to learn on?
>There were okuma and pflueger setups around that price and then various eagle claw and no name setups for much less
people usually recommend the echo lift combo, but if i remember well it's a bit above your budget, eagle claw is good
dunno for the others but okuma spinning reels improved a lot in the last years so maybe the rest did
>Will i hate myself trying to learn on a budget rod/reel?
not at all
getting old gear off ebay work too, that's what i did and backing/line/leader ended up costing more that the rod and reels

>>2850870
I bought this for my brother in law last Christmas
https://a.co/d/b8htW0B
I'm legit impressed with it! I have an echo lift, and It's a great rod/reel/line combo. But for half the price, this kit is catching my brother in law just as many fish as my echo.

The fly's are ok, but I tie, so my brother in law has never used any of them. The leaders work just as well as the rio leader's I'm using. Get yourself a spool or two of tippet and a few more flies and you'll be good to go. I mean, you could go fishing with just the kit, nothing extra needed. But I'd get the tippet, so you're not burning through the leaders and more flies, because you always need more flies ;)

>>2850870
Echo lift kit is a bit iver budget but its really good
Eagle claw is okay, i learned on one of those.
You're going to hate yourself learning on any setup but youll hate yourself less when your combo is good enough to keep up with your progression.
>>2850876
+1 for more flies, you always need more flies and more fly boxes
>>2850763
>first couple months
First couple trips*

>>2850874
>>2850876
>>2850919
Appreciate the advice
I'm assuming a 5wt would be a safe general choice but what about action?
I already have some nymph and streamers that i cast on spinning gear. I want something that will be as versatile as possible
My budget isn't really set in stone. If the echo is a good starter then i can definitely go for that. I just want to be able to comfortable use as many types of presentations as possible.

>>2850933
I usually advise a 6, especially since you're prioritizing as many types of presentation as possible. A 6 can still make a delicate presentation with a small dry fly, and surprisingly small fish will still give you plenty of bend, but the extra mass in the line will help a lot with heavier nymph rigs and especiallg streamers. As for action, youre basically stuck with moderate fast at your price point, but imo thats the most universal action anyways

>>2850933
I second Skid's 6wt rec. My 4wt is great for dry flies, but really struggles casting even moderately heavy nymphs like #6 pat's rubber legs. My 6wt on the other hand can cast a #16 griffith's gnat, no problem and handles heavy nymphs well too. If it's within your budget, I know this is adding up(fly fishing always does...lol), but I definitely prefer my Echo traverse over my lift, but you're looking at $250 vs ~$190 for that. Lift has a medium action, traverse medium fast.

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>>2850933
depend on the fish you want to target and the flies you want to throw at it
also some type of flies will be heavier or have more wind resistance, so you want more strength than usually prescribed for the size
unless you're planning on fishing small stuff on small flies you shouldn't hesitate going for the 8wt
but if you find something cheap second hand between 5 and 8wt it should cover most basic needs regardless

>>2850876
>>2850919
More flies, more flies!!!!

Its amazing how finicky fish can be and how switching from one fly to an ever so slightly different fly WHOSE DIFFERENCES CAN ONLY BE DISCERNED UNDER A DAMN MICROSCOPE can be the difference between going home empty or hitting bag limit.

>>2850941
How are you struggling to throw a Pat's Rubber Legs on a 4 WT? If that's a problem for you, you must really struggle with a beadhead woolly bugger.
Echo Lift Kits have gone up to $250. Echo had a price change a few months ago. I don't know what Traverse Kits cost, but they've surely gone up as well.

>>2850961
Fishusa had the lift kit for 190 in 4 and 6
I was probably going to go for that.

>>2850961
I was fairly new to fly fishing the last time I tried. It might be easier now that I can cast better. But it felt like the 4w lift didn't have enough backbone. The tip was too....springy? But like a weak spring, not a strong spring. It was a #6 bead head pat's with a nickel bead 7 turns of .25 lead wire. I never tried it again on that rod. But I have thrown it on my 6w traverse and it acts as it's supposed to. I'll try it again on the lift sometime. But I've pretty much otherwise relegated it to dry flies and #14 or smaller nymphs. And it does a great job at throwing those.

do any of you chum?

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>>2850406
Little red i got this weekend. Free lining live skrimps on the flats in central FL.

>>2850964
Awesome! Pull the trigger now!! They will not be selling them at that price for long. My store kept the kits at $190 until we sold out. An Echo Lift Kit can be the only rod you ever own. It's probably the best thing to have ever cone to fly fishing. I'm the kind of person who likes to buy once, cry once. When I get something that's better than what I had, I ignore the old thing. That's not the case with my Echo Lift Kit. I have a Sage R8 Core ($1100), and I still break out my Lift. Get some 9 ft leaders; these are the only leaders I fish as a spring creek fisherman, and get some tippet. I like to fish light (5x and 4x). Others don't.

>>2850997
>>2850964
Yeah buy that shit immediately its not going to be that low again in a long time if ever

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>makes Americans shit and piss their pants with anger

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Think this is good to start or should i get more leaders or thicker ones?
I added a 4x tippet to cart too

>>2851042
you can have all the trash fish you want

>>2851048
Ditch the 6x and get 3x instead. Unless you're fishing #28 midges you really dont need anything uhder 5x for anything. Also cjnsider getting some 1x or 2x leaders and tippet for streamer fishing. I always try to use the heaviest line i can get away with.

>>2851042
what's the deal with brits and carp btw?

>>2851048
I'm the guy who told you to buy now and talked about lighter setups. You don't want 6X, especially as a beginner. What I would do is buy an extra leader for 5X and 4X, since I fish them the most. You might get tangled in a tree and lose most of your leader. I'm imagining you can't just go to the fly shop and get a new one. The other thing I highly recommend are the smallest tippet rings you are capable of using. They stop your leader from shortening and make adding tippet easier.
If it is true you have no fly shops near you, I would suggest buying some flies. I advise against RIO (don't worry about leader and tippet) and Solitude, based on personal experience, but there are other shitty fly brands I have heard of. Umpqua and MFC are the best. Get some nymphs and streamers. Skip the dry flies and floatant, but if you are really keen on surface action thus time of year, get a couple tiny foam beetles. Also, get some of the smallest airlock indicators. I hate them, but many people like them, and they can be good for beginners.

>>2851092
Their overlords didn’t allow the common person to fish for pike or salmoinoids, so British freshwater fishermen had a choice between carp, roach, brim, dace, and bitterling.
Carp are by far the best fish to catch on that list.

>>2851094
>Their overlords didn’t allow the common person to fish for pike or salmoinoids
hold on, there's probably regulations on that, i have regulations on that, but it can't be illegal up there
anyway they don't have the culinary capacity to make anything good out of carp

>>2851097
Certain types of catch weren’t illegal, they were just taxed in kind. And the English absolutely knew how to make food from carp, you boil it up, flake the meat off the bones, mix with flour and then fry up a fish cake.

>>2851100
>they were just taxed in kind
pretty sure this isn't a thing in this day and age, some laws are considered obsolete over there and not applied anymore, like laws related to horse carts in cities because barely anyone use these anymore
and you lost me at boiling, stop boiling everything you limey swine

>>2851048
I'm with the other two, skip the 6x. Get 4x and 5x. I use 4x most of the time and only go down to 5x if I'm using #18 or 20. And if you think you'll be throwing streamers, get a Rio big nasty and some 1x or 2x tippet. Tippet rings are also great for preserving your leaders. Just add one at the end of the second taper and tie on your tippet from there. That's for nymphs and swung fly leaders, skip the tippet ring for dry fly leaders.

>>2851042
Anger? No. Confusion as to why you would want to intentionally target trash fish, yes. But if you want to fish for carp, hey, have fun. If you plan on eating it, here's a recipe I heard that works well for them. Clean carp and split it in two, no need to fillet or depone. Place the carp on cardboard and set it on the grill, set to low. Cook for 30-40 minutes until internal temp of at least 170F. Then toss the carp in the trash and eat the cardboard.

spools ran out, my leaders will be only butt and tippet now, too small butt and too big tippet too
i'll manage just fine tho

>>2851139
a recipe just as good as british cooking
jokes aside, it's a fish that is heavy and fight back i get why people fish them for sport

>>2851102
Obsolete old rules don’t restrict modern behavior, but they do inform the traditions that the modern practices descend from.

Also poached or baked with a bit of salt, pepper, and (optionally) lemon zest is the best way to enjoy a fish. If you eat your fish batter fried, you like the taste of batter and sneed oil, not the taste of fish.

>>2851093
>foam beetles
Foam bugs in general, they make good bobbers.
>>2851093
>airlock indicators
Nothing wrong with those but if you want easy mode look at the oros 2 piece fly bobbers. I thought they were a meme but they actually cast way nicer. I still use thingamabobbers tol though.
>>2851141
Your tippet is heavier than your butt?
Regardless, it'll hinge, but it should be servicable.

>>2851150
I already have and use the oros on spinning gear. They are pretty nice
>>2851136
>>2851093
Thanks for the advice all. I updated the cart before buying anything.

>>2851154
just keep in mind fly fishing is full of pretentious people that will give you shit advice and go on about presentation and finesse so take everything with a grain of salt and don't be afraid to try things in different situations, different knots, tippet rings and all

I am a nolife having fag that plays vidya all the time but am wanting to try new hobbies. What is the appeal of fishing? I don't know if I get why so many people like to do it.

>>2851182
It's like gambling but actually fun. You can't make the fish bite, but you can sure try. Fishing can be very technical or stupid simple. It can be very active or very relaxed. It's whatever you want it to be.

>>2851182
Catching fish triggers ancient genetic programming. You get a nice flood of adrenalin and dopamine. A hormonal reward for catching a potential meal.

>>2851182
You trick an animal into eating a plastic lure so you can get an heavy metal intoxication eating it

>>2851182
Self paced and good excuse to go outside, good if you can trick a buddy into it

>>2851139
Only eastern euros eat carp, everyone else fish them for fun

>>2851182
depends on how you view it. for me it's like pokemon, trying to catch as many different types as I can and big specimens of each. it's also about exploring new places. aside from that, it's learning a useful survival skill, and most importantly, it's an outdoor hobby that gets you fresh air, sun, and away from vidya addiction. you can do it alone or with friends. add a kayak to the mix and you can explore even further, and get light exercise. half the time I go out in my kayak with a rod I don't even end up fishing, but just exploring.

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>>2851182
Gives me a excuse to sit by the crick and have a few beers

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Never get tired of seeing these things
Happy thanksgiving burgerbuds

>>2851243
Ive gone "fishing" with just a bobber and a weight. No hook.
Just like to practice casting and watch my bobber bob, while sitting /out/ alone with a cooler.

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>>2850406
This is the first walleye I've caught in like 3 years

What are your favorite flies made by Umpqua or some other company? Obviously, I'm not asking about a GB Hare's Ear but something unique that you like to buy or tie on your own. My favorites are a Pops Bugger and Mayers Mini Leech Jig. It's much, much cheaper to tie your own. Never buy them.

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Absolutely cracking bass the other day.

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>>2851489 Although really its getting into cod and whiting season this time of year - off the lures and back onto the bait fishing for me.

i cut my finger today doing knots on braid

>>2851182
It's the anticipation of getting a bite, followed by the surprise of having a fish on at the end of your line; feeling it shake, swim, and fight.

>>2851182
>go outside
>drink beer
>sometimes go home with fish

Any further questions?

>>2851492
That has never ever happened to me. I knot various poundages of braid every day at work, and it flies a million miles and hour through my fingers under pressure. How did you manage to do that? Picking up a fish by holding braid, that makes sense why you'd get cut, but tying knots?
In other news, we're getting a big snow storm. It's surely going to melt, but I've got a strong feeling this will be the best ice season in a decade. I hate ice fishing, but I'll go if I have an opportunity.

Anyone ever try sinking a griffith gnat to see if anything takes it?

>>2851538
Drowning dry flies intentionally is a thing. Im pretty sure ive fished for bluegill with a fairly large (#16) drowned griffiths gnat with success.

>>2851583
Interesting, I feel like experimenting now. Thanks for the info.

Almost 3 hours of trying to catch a zander on dropshot at night on medium action rod. First serious try, tried different lures, varied reeling. Nothing.

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This is my first year doing any colder weather fishing and it has been great
Got this big guy today. 18-20 inch easy.
He was tagged but i didnt get the number. Spit the lure in the net so i tipped him out

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>try braid
>caught a weed
>slight rod wiggle
>invent new knot
>inb4 skills issue

>>2851799
i've seen knots in a line, but knot in a line around the rod that's new for me
also i assume this is a fluorocarbon leader, look smaller than the braid, what diameter/weight are these and what are you fishing for?

>>2851799
I have to try this one on my rod without a bait holder

>>2851799
the main downside to braid that people don't tell you is that knots are much easier to get and close to impossible to get out once they cinch down. wind knots are very easy to get if you just whip it out hard with lots of arc/slack. jerking snags can also cause them if they wrap around underwater sticks and such. you have to be mindful of these things, but braid is ridiculously sensitive.

I'm hoping to get some advice. I really like my 4 piece Presso UL rod. I am strongly considering getting a Presso Air, but I'm not sure what action I want. Unfortunately, having a chance to try it out in-person is not possible. I am looking for something with a similar power and action. I mostly fish 1/32 oz jigs, sometimes 1/16 oz, and size 0-4 Panther Martins for bluegill, bass, and trout.

>>2851878
longer rods by nature will be more whippy and slow to react, shorter will be more crisp. at the same time, the ultralight will feel more whippy and slow to react than the light when using techniques that rely on bite detection. thus I'd personally go with a shorter ultralight(under 6ft6) or longer light(over 6ft6) in your situation. the longer light action models will probably have similar tip section softness to the ultralight as a whole. it will just take more to bend down near the first couple of guides. that's usually how the lighter power rods work for the most part. now if you like a long whippy rod, then by all means get a 7ft or longer ultralight. I like them but lots of people don't.

>>2851878
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82dr733Q38Y

>>2851907
this guy seems cool

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Wanna get a bass boat this summer. I have fished me whole life but have never owned a boat. Any advice on what I should look for? Just want something I can use on small lakes and rivers with room to stand for my brother and I. Any advice on what I should look for/be wary of? I just plan on buying one off of marketplace

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>>2851979
>not just doing one with sticks and leather

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what cause a line to look like picrel? not a washer problem obviously since it isn't more on a side than the other, it's braid if that change anything and it was properly spooled

>>2852003
I assume you mean on a spool.
Whatever is guiding the line as it winds on the reel is dwelling longer or otherwise slowing down at the ends of its travel so it's depositing more line at the ends than in the middle

>>2852006
any idea if it can be fixed?

>>2852003
fresh spool?

>>2852015
yes

>Didn't get to fish nearly as much as I wanted before it got cold this year.
>Decide this is finally gonna be the year I'm gonna get into ice fishing.
So I already have a nice heater I use with my normal tent. But do any of the brands of ice fishing tent really stand out compared to others? I've seen four person tents going from 80 to 500 bucks.

>>2851979
Jon boat. You want one.

>>2852021
it may even itself out as you cast, i had the same with an slx at the start of the year and its mostly fine now

This was my first summer fishing. I was using a $20 5'6 Wormgear rod/reel combo. I was just gifted an UglyStik GX2 6'6 Medium. I'm wanting to pair that with a Daiwa Fuego 2500 lt. Is that a decent enough reel? Sounds good enough for price and comparison to others in that price bracket.

I've heard that the GX2 isn't very sensitive (probably still an upgrade to what ive been using though) so want to a braided mainline with a fluoro leader. I've read 10lb braid with 8lb fluoro is a good combination and could give me extra sensitivity.

I've mainly been fishing for whatever I can catch (usually panfish, a couple of small bass). But I would love to catch trout, bigger bass and catfish too. I guess I'm looking for an all around setup.

Any other advice on if this line setup would work well for my rod/reel and what type/brand of braid and fluoro to get?

I heard berkley forward braid is great but I have no idea on fluoro leaders. Any tips?

>>2852049
fuego is basically just a magsealed legalis/exceler. read up on mag seal and decide if you want that or not. In my opinion, the outgoing Shimano Nasci FC is a better buy at that price point. regardless, do NOT pay msrp for any reel at this time of year, they are always going on sale by quite a bit. you have to physically check websites daily, because the price doesn't always show up on google due to it often being promo codes. 10 or 15lb braid is fune. 15 if you want to use a thicker leader, 10 for thinner leader. I also suggest 8 strand braid vs 4x. j-braid, j-braid grand, sufix 832, etc. braid cost more but it lasts longer. for leader you could even try yo-zuri hybrid if you want lots of line for cheap. it's got less stretch than most flouro so you will get sensitivity, great knot strength, and abrasion resistance. the only downside is the thick diameter. lots of flouro is junk, and the fact that it's expensive means you gotta spend a lot to find one that isn't junk. some has shit breaking strength, some has shit knot strength, some has too much stretch to be sensitive, some is just too stiff, etc. flouro is an entire rabbit hole, and an expensive one. once again, do NOT buy anything at msrp this time of year, too many sales to be doing that.

>>2852049
>I've read 10lb braid with 8lb fluoro
Thats pretty light, id go 20lb braid to 10-17lb leader for a medium rod, and id run a power pro mainline to a berkley leader.

>>2852053
>read up on mag seal and decide if you want that or not.
I think its probably worth it. It's a nice reel and will last long. I travel to NYC quite a bit, so would be nice to try fishing the sea with out too much worry about salt water getting in. I've also dropped my rod in the river before, so good peace of mind.
>do NOT pay msrp for any reel at this time of year
Good advice. I have a $20 coupon for Dicks so will wait until i see a sale there, unless I see one better elsewhere.
>braid cost more but it lasts longer.
I really don't mind shelling out for good braid. I previously used mono and only ever respooled because I kept getting snagged and ended up losing too much reel. I'm guessing in those scenarios the break point would be on the leader.
>>2852070
I'm up in NEPA. Most of what I've caught are small bass and panfish. I'd like to target bigger, but don't think I'll have monsters. I'd like to hit bigger bass, trout, maybe a catfish.

Apart from strength are there any benefits of heavier braid?
Right now I'm thinking of getting 10/12lb Berkley Forward Braid and 8lb Seaguar Red Label Fuorocarbon.
I read that 10lb/8lb would give me increased sensitivity which I think I'd like for finess fishing since the GX2 isn't super sensitive.

>>2852091
Heavier braids have a few benefits like increased relative lifespan and abrasion resistance- whhen 10lb braid ages and degrades 25% you have 7.5lb, when 20lb braid does it you still have 14lb of pull on tap. Its also more manageable, under 15lb it seems to more readily tangle and dig in to spools amd be harder to untangle. You also lose less gear with heavier line because you can pull harder before you lose your lure. I fish 20lb braid and 20lb mono wigh ned rigs for 10 inch bass because if i snag the hook will bend out before the line breaks and i can get the lure back.

>>2851979
I recommend a V hull if you’re not planing on skimming mud or thick veg stuff, they’re better and safer if you’re ever out in the weather. But for me, the river is the Mississippi and the sloughs freeze hard and don’t have fish worth catching in them. If you are further south where the main killer of fish in shallow water are predators and not the weather, you might want a long tail and a flat bottom, they can go places conventional boats and motors cannot.

If you don’t feel the need for a long tail, get a used 14 foot rowboat and a 15-20 hp motor, a conventional short shaft if you’re a confident navigator or a pump-drive if you’re afraid for your lower unit or planning on driving over sandbars or mud flats. Spend more money on your electronics than your outboard and more on your outboard than your hull and trailer.

My current boat is an 18 foot Crestliner with a 40hp Mercury. It was originally a bench boat, but I decked over the benches and got some seats. It fishes 4 comfortably and can haul enough weight that I can bring 60 gallons of fuel, camping gear and food for a week, and 3 friends to Voyagers and it’ll still comfortably cruise at 20mph with 1400 lbs of man and gear when we make the 30 mile run to our preferred campsite. I’m bought into the Humminbird and Minnkota electronics ecosystem, and setting my boat up with autopilot, multiple screens, and good charts and sonar was easy, but I think some other brands might be cheaper, but IDK if they are as simple to set up.

>>2852118
What part of the Mississippi do you fish? I'm mostly a NE Iowa trout angler, but the big river is closer than many of the streams I fish. It's just that I don't have a boat. Anyway, I might get a boat in the future or a better way to transport my kayak, and it sounds like you have some knowledge that might help me.

Ugly OP image not partaking

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I wish i could get pic related in a micro finesse trd, i bet trout would go nuts for it
>>2852217
You just did

>>2852234
The other day I was gifted one of those mystery tackle box things, has some baits for jig heads I think. How do I know what size jig heads to get? Do I base it on what I want to catch? My gear?

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>>2852241
Jig sizing is a tricky question dominated by feel and personal preference. What were the soft plastics? You need to consider how big the lure is, how deep you're going to fish/how hard you want the bait to sink, and how big the actual hook in the jig is. You might want a 1/4oz head with a 3/0 hook to lightly weight a paddle tail so it swims a foot of three under the surface or you might want a 1/2 oz jig with a smaller hook if you're trying to drag bottom with a curly tail in 25 feet of moving water.

>>2852241
You can catch monster fish using tiny stuff. A 1/32 lead jig head with a 2 inch twister tail is the size of a small minnow. Everything eats minnows. You don't want a 1.25 inch bait on a 1/4 oz jig hook. It will be completely dwarfed. You can go to your local store and match it up yourself or ask for help. You could ask for help there too. If you are against that option, you can always post what it was you got.

Hey /out/it's, we missed Secret Santa last year. How about doing one this year?

>>2852243
>You can catch monster fish using tiny stuff.
Thats specifically why i built my hyper finesse, it will launch a 1/16th oz jig head and 2 inch curly tail far as fuck, even more so with a bobber, but then its still got the power to take on 6lb fish with ease. The only problem it has is that its fiberglass so its not that sensitive, but it does great with small movjng baits or lures under bobbers

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I don't think I've ever caught a fish on any plastic other than one of these
Tried senkos, trout magnets, and twirl tails with no luck

>>2852256
How long have you been fishing? I've only started this summer, I tried spinners, cranks, swimbaits, senkos. For most of the summer I didn't catch anything and always went back to a float and nightcrawlers which got me some panfish.
Towards the end I managed to catch a few small bass on a spinner, not sure what changed. Maybe my technique, maybe the water temperature. It's a mystery. Looking forward to the spring so I can get back out there and try again.

>>2852259
I got back into fishing like 5 years ago
I catch everything on spinners and rapalas mostly. Only use bait for ocean fishing
I posted some trout catches lately and they were all on thomas spinners/swiss swings

>>2852256
>>2852259
seconding this guy>>2852260
almost every freshwater predator bite onto spinners and soft plastic on a jighead
i use mepps and rapala curltails

>>2852154
Everything from Lake Winnibigoshish to Lake Pepin. Though lots of the natural course of the river, especially above the Coon Rapids Dam, can be marginal for power boating depending on river level, so I end up fishing from canoe as often as the boat if I’m launching from Monticello or any of the other launches that aren’t for dam impoundments. But yeah, if you wanna talk about boats, I’m always down.

Anyone fish in NEPA? When fishing a new lake, how do you know what to use on your setup? How do you know what fish are in their? I want to catch some catfish in the spring and summer, but how can I know what body of water will have any? And one at that body how will I know where in the water they are as a poor bank fisher?

>>2852374
>>2852374
Not sure what NEPA is but assuming its a developed area with a department of natural resources the lake is probably documented along eith common species in that body of water. You could also talk to the local fishing shop, ask what fish are in what lakes.

As for finding fish, thats trial and error. You figure out what kind of habitat your desired species likes- does it like weeds? Fallen trees? Rocks? Then find fishing spots with those features and fish them. You can probably find depth charts for lakes too i look at a lot of my local bodies of water with gpsnauticalcharts

>>2852378
I believe NEPA is North East PennsylvaniA.
>>2852374
Lake Wallenpaupack seems to be the best place for channel catfish in your area. What I did was go to your DNR (not called DNR) website. I scrolled down to Where to Fish. I then selected Best Fishing Waters by Species. You could also go to Warmwater/Cooleater Fishing to find it. Lackawanna Lake seems to be the only other Waterbury that has channels.

Wow. This thread is dead. Fair weather fishermen, yet they complain about Skid's threads. Hopefully soon, I'm going to get some friends to take me out ice fishing. I don't own any gear, but I know they do. I think it might be fun to go after some crappie and walleye and do a catch and cook.

>>2852617
It sucks because there's no light to fish after work
I'm still out on the weekend. Hopefully get another nice trout today.

>>2852617
Lakes are not quite safe to walk on. Fella needed rescuing with an airboat here the other day, because the ice he was fishing on broke free and drifted out into open water.

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Fish from the other day, somebody got my ip range banned so now I can't shitpost fish while I'm /out/.

>>2852649
Fishing lvl?

>>2852617
>This thread is dead
blame the retard fucking it up 4 times in a row, it had the fastest ppm of the board before that

>>2852617
>a very seasonal and condition dependent hobby is seasonal
Whoah

>>2852650
I'm shit mate.

>>2852665
you can fish in winter you know

Micro line guides are awful in the winter
1-4 casts before they all freeze up

>>2852770
I learned that the hard way too

>>2852754
Fishing is noticeably worse in every way in winter and it feels worse being out in cold weather so I fish half as much.

>>2852770
>>2852803
TENKARA is the way. I am not a paid shill, but I highly recommend the Dragontail Mizuchi. It's great for trout and bluegill. I'm about to buy my second Dragontail rod.

>>2852808
I have a rod that i got from ebay. Havent had much luck and have a lot of difficulty casting it well.
It would be smart to try it out with something decent instead of an old random pole

>>2852806
As somebody who primarily trout and salmon fished for 20 years, haha.

>>2852834
Yeah. I am not a fan of Dragontail's cheapest rod, but the Mizuchi is great. Watch some videos to get started or ask questions here.

Followed the advice of some shillbros here and just got my lift kit
Any advice for winter fly fishing trout?

>>2852884
i'm no trout expert but some fishes go deeper in winter so i guess trout does too, also there's less surface insects and more nymphs or tadpoles in general so make sense to me to target with nymph instead of dry flies
there's also a setup where you tie a nymph to your dry fly so you can target both surface and underwater, in that setup the dry fly also work as a float of sorts, but i guess as a beginner you might want to keep things simple
also that might depend on the weather or if it's river or lake, like in general fish would go deeper where water is less cold than surface but at the same time it's common to see fish going into shallow waters when it's sunny to get a bit of warmth
but again i'm no trout expert

>>2852884
I'm one of the guys who spilled the lift kit. Here's what I recommend. Practice in the yard or at an unfrozen pond with the leader that comes on there. When you're ready to fish for real, throw it out. Hopefully, you have some quality leaders and tippet or can buy them easily. I like fine tippet, but others do not. That means 5X and 4X most of the time. In the winter, go slow with your presentation. Do not rip streams through the water. Also, don't fish dry flies other than the odd BWO. Dead drifting nymphs is a good idea. You can fish them under an indicator, but I hate indicators, so I don't use them. Try various patterns, sizes, and colors. Trout will be a little more lethargic in winter but not much more. They will not wallow in deep pools like catfish.

>>2852901
Shilled got autocorrected to spilled.

>>2852901
I took asvice from everyone that posted and got 4x and 5x tippet and about 8 leaders in 3 different weights. It was all rio beand so hopefully at least decebt.
Is the fly line on the lift decent or will that be something ID 2 eventually want to upgrade? I see it goes from 10 dollars to 100

>>2852929
The stock fly line is great. Do not upgrade. Fish it till it needs replacing.

>>2852884
>>2852929
Leave the line it came with, and like the other anon said, go practice casting. When i got in to fly fishihg i dodnt even bother taking my rod to a lake or river until i could cast competently, shoot line, and double haul.

>>2852938
A newbie does not need to know how to double or even single haul. That's far more advanced than he needs to know to catch fish. He just needs to be able to cast across a room (do not practice inside). Other important things are casting relatively accurately and not hanging up on trees behind you. Watch some casting videos, pay attention to what you're doing, and you'll be fine.

how important is line weight? Like if I'm using 10lb braid and 8lb fluro would I be ok with a 12lb catfish? I only fish in lakes and rivers from the bank so although I'd love to catch bigger i doubt it would happen. Maybe with a catfish though.

>>2852942
My friend caught a muskie, not a baby but far from a giant, on 2 lb line. A heavier line allows you to muscle the fish more. That's it. It doesn't bar you from catching big fish.

>>2852942
fishes don't exactly pull their weight on a line, let's say you weight about 80kg, you can't apply 80kg of pulling force on a rope, it's similar for the fish, unless you pull it fully out of the water by the line alone it's not gonna apply it's weight on the line
now there's factors, like the fish fighting or water current puling the fish away that will increase the applied force
also take in account that most knots don't have 100% of your line strength
the knot between your 8lb fluoro and 10lb braid might break on a 12lb catfish
don't be scarred to oversize a bit, unless you're also fishing panfish and such with that setup i'd go straight up for 20lb for both

>>2852951
I'm definitely also fishing for panfish. Not on purpose, its just 95% of what I happen to catch.

>>2852887
In ice fishing, anyways, trout run shallow in winter. But as ever, where the forage is will be the greatest factor.

>>2852950
Light line increases stress on fish because it forces you to wear them out more completely before you land them.
>>2852951
Pan fish don’t give a single fuck about line, except maybe crappies.

>>2852953
i'd go for 16lb on both then, should be enough for all your use cases without being too thick

>>2852940
Hauling isnt complicated and makes casting way easier
>>2852942
Youll be fine
>>2852955
>maybe crappies
No they don't care either ive used 20lb mono on a 1/16oz jig and slammed em
>>2852953
>>2852957
Id probably do 20lb braid and 14-17lb leader

>>2852960
>>2852957
>>2852953
i retract my statement, 20lb braid with a slightly smaller leader is sound, now i wouldn't go bellow 16lb fluoro, taking in account the lost strength from the knot, 20braid 16fluo is good

>>2852932
>>2852938
good to know it is decent
i practiced a little earlier in the year and watched some videos. i'm just going to take it with me fishing tomorrow along with spinning rods and fuck around a bit. there are some clear stretches of river with gravel shores and no trees close by so no worries about catching a branch

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for the dude saying fishing in the winter sucks: you're missing out!
>>2852942
this was caught on 20lb braid with a 30lb leader. you can reel in much bigger fish as long as you aren't trying to bulldog it as it pulls away.

>>2852984
nice redfish
>for the dude saying fishing in the winter sucks: you're missing out!
while i agree with you, let's be fair and consider we don't have the same winder

>>2852990
>let's be fair
no i don't think i will. ill just continue to catch fish.

>>2852980
Something that i thjnk accellerated my progess fly fishing was doubling down on it and leaving spin gear at home, insisting upon figuring out how to do "it" with a fly rod. Dont neglect roll casting, once you figure that out its whole new game. My biggest hurdle was stopping the rod- you need your stop to be instant and complete to impart all the energy in to the line, and once that clicked my casting got way better in general on the spot.

>>2852984
Dude there's a plam tree behind u lol

I’m watching bassmaster on TV and every fight has endless clicker drag running, even while the guy is reeling. Do they pump in drag sounds to make the fight sound more exciting? Or are zoomer fisherman so retarded they reel through the drag every time? And if they are not pumping in the sound, do they require clicker drag? Even the bait casters seem to have clicker drag when most bc reels do not have clicker.

At any rate, for new fisherman. DO NOT reel through the drag. It doesn’t help you, will twist your line and burn out your drag.

>>2853053
i was getting a sun tan while fishing yesterday.

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Best boat for weekend fishing trips/multi day trips? I can't decide between a bristol sloop or a bertram flybridge. A bertram would be convenient to get out to places quick, but I don't know if it'd be worth it much since I'll probably only be cruising at 12 knots while a sailboat is still around half that but without much of a fuel cost if at all. I just don't know how convenient fishing and preparing fish would be on a sailboat. Sugar scoops are only a thing on more expensive stuff and I just don't know how much of a pain hauling a 30+lb fish 4 feet up and over a railing and around lines would be. Either way I'm taking a sailing class in the spring anyway, but I was just curious if anyone had given either a try

>>2853095
how confident are you on not puncturing your sail with your hook?
it's kinda like fishing from under a tree

>>2853057
its for the show
don't bother watching that bullshit, its just one big ad

So smaller flies just don't work for spinning reels right?

>>2853125
Use a bobber for distance
you can get ok distance slingshotting it if it has a tungsten bead

>>2853126
Fair enough, now all that's left is tying the darn things on.

>>2853127
I do a double davy for nymphs and stuff

>>2853127
Clinch knot works great for small flies. I use a plunger hackle plier to hold the fly by the hook while tying it on, a lot of flies have hackle or something else sticking out that you don't want to smash flat. You hold the two ends of the line and twist the fly vs twisting he line around itself. You could also use forceps to hold the fly if you carry those. If you're using a tungsten head jig nymph without hackle or anything, you could do it by hand, but you'll likely still struggle with the small size of the fly. So I still use the hackle pliers for those too.

>>2853125
spinning reel/rod you cast the lure
fly reel/rod you cast the line
spinning rods have a weigh range indication on them like 5g-18g that indicate the lure weight you can efficiently throw with it
flies are light for the most of them, that's why you use them on a setup that cast the line since you can't cast the lure
if you want to use a fly on spin gear you'll need to use weighted ones or add weight a way or another and you'll need a rod with a weight range low enough for it

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>>2853098
I'm not super concerned about the sail being punctured since I can for the most part just reef it up and drop anchor when I'm actually fishing. I'd be more worried about the rigging and lines that run off that section where I'd actually be handling the fish

>>2853147
>I can for the most part just reef it up and drop anchor when I'm actually fishing
well point still stand because of rigging as you mentioned, been there done that and you have to be careful with your rod and line, but perhaps depending on size there isn't as much rigging on all sides
the upside of sails is that they don't breakdown like an engine can and modern sailboats still have an engine for when there's no wind
now i was only a passenger, i don't own one so i don't know the costs and maintenance
i'd say don't jump the gun and wait for your sailing classes, might give you more insight on it and you can ask the guy for specific use cases

>>2853154
Yeah I plan on waiting a good few months before even making the purchase, but I'm not super stressed about fishing off them. I'm definitely gonna talk with the instructors, but as for maintenance, used sails can be had for around $2k and depending on how responsible you are, they can last 10-15 years. Most things on a sailboat last a good portion of time. Thats why you always seem to sink money into them when you do spend. People get rid of boats when they neglect a lotta stuff at once and it all breaks down at the same time. Even with that though, to have a bare minimum sailboat operational, its still exceedingly cheap compared to similar sized power boats. You really only need a good hull, good rigging, and a running backup engine. As long as the boat hasn't been out of water for 15 years and is from a decent builder, it should never be very hard to get it going

>>2853157
Why not get a jon boat? Fish bone fish flats with a fly rod. I saw this one guy fish off oil rigs in a ski doo. If he can go far out in a ski doo, you should he able to bring a small motorboat out there.

>>2853134
>>2853138
Thanks for the tips.

>>2853139
I got some ways to add weight. My rod is rather light too.

>>2853179
See>>2853095
My plan is for multi day trips with it. I'd have no problem whatsoever fishing with a jon boat, but I'd like something I can fall asleep in and not get rained on. Otherwise something like a fishing kayak would be perfect

>>2853179
a jet ski is way more suited for rough water than a john boat. flat bottoms are horrible in any chop, even mod v bottom ain't that good. I've been out on lakes in one with rough water and it's not safe at all.

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>in NE Florida
>used to catch tons of stuff off my dock without thinking about it
>haven't caught a single thing since the temps dropped

Check the tides and the supposed "best times" using the tidesforfishing site. Used mullet, blue crabs, sand fleas, mud minnows, shrimp. Nothing. Used to toss in a shrimp and get a spotted sea trout almost every time. Guess even in FL fishing is mainly seasonal

>>2853229
i'd say you're not reaching deep enough, what kind of rig do you use?
also shrimps alone should do it

Do you guys have fishing licenses or are you normal?

normal as i don't steal resources from others
get your license faggot

>>2853309
depend, i'm mostly normal, when i occasionally go float fishing for small fry fish with my aunt we don't bother with a licence, because we don't do that too often and it's in some backwater place and licence cost way too much here
but when i go more regularly in places where there's more people fishing i get one because fines are also way too much
>>2853367
fishes belong to everyone and the licence is just a form of taxation, which is unjustified if they do fuckall with it and even more when it's overpriced, most people handling that are a bunch of leeches, at least in my country

>>2853419
>fishes belong to everyone
It doesn't sound like you're in the US but here a lot of states have great stocking programs for gamefish
It's worth buying the license to keep funding those projects

>>2853459
from what i've seen a part of the US have fair prices and good services
most of europe have terrible prices and shit services at best
so yeah apply with context
here last time i put my nose into a stocking program i found out most of the trout were sold under the table to restaurants because there's no oversight

>>2853469
35 dollars a year for all waters in the state is reasonable to me, but temporary passes for non residents can be pricy
My state stocks lots of gorgeous trout and salmon and they aren't out harassing people trying to write tickets. Very worthwhile to me

>>2853419
>fishes belong to everyone
correct
which is why if you go without a license, you are stealing from the people
faggot

>>2853477
if it belong to everyone it also belong to me smartass
fucking retard

>>2853478
so then you owe them for what you use/take

>>2852665
I fish all year round I'm just not posting about fishing unless we get a pretty white woman next OP

i didn't expect us to have a mentally challenged gov bootlicker here
as if skid wasn't enough

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Went out and caught some tranny fishes (male?)

I want to keep this brief. I bought a bunch of Daiwa rods sight unseen. I'm a huge fan of my 6'6" Presso UL, so I bought a 6'6" L and UL as well as a 6'8" L (casting) Presso Air. I tried the casting rod out today with a new bfs reel. This is what I want to share. It would've been better if I went with the 5'10" UL. You don't not want to cast a bfs rod with both hands like a typical baitcaster. A long rod does not help much. I was turned off by the sub 6 ft rod, but now that I have it in hand, I can recommend the shorter rod. The handle and all will take some getting used to, not sure I will like it, but it is incredibly well-built. The burl wood, speckled paint, reel seat screw, and overall appearance make this rod incredibly beautiful.

>>2853491
Then, we won't be hearing from you again. Good riddance, faggot.

>>2853510
>A long rod does not help much
well if only throw light lures i guess
i had no proper travel rod so i recently got some cheap 4pc 9ft NGT Profiler carp rod, stiff enough to be used as a pike rod, i like the simplicity of carp rods having no fancy handle at all, just plain rod, can throw a lure up to 50g
simple, do the job, quite happy with it

2 pound braid to 4 pound mono what knot is best?

>>2853564
albright

>>2853495
>stealing from fellow whites
nigger

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Beautiful day to get on the river
I need to try some vaseline or something.

>>2853564
FG knot for braid to mono.

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>>2853564
picrel is, albright can slip (still decent tho) and FG is kind of a meme unless you need something extra thin like backing to braid

>>2853591
cattlefaggot

>>2853495
He's right and youre wrong, fag

>>2853631
we got it, you shared your retarded opinion already, you can move one and go choke on a dick

>>2853592
Fuck Vaseline. Vaseline is for buttfucking, not eyelets. You need to try tenkara.

>>2853637
I'm a pussy and don't want to wader up in winter

>>2853637
>You need to try tenkara.
but anon, i'm not a japanese hipster

>>2853637
>tenkara
>I only like to fish within 9 feet
Weeb autist fishing. Get a real fly rod.

>>2853671
Those guides would ice up too

>>2853686
Indeed, but I can break that ice, pull out several feet of line and cast to all the spots the tenkara guys wish they could reach.

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I just got my monthly Smitty's box in the mail today. Took them a while to get them out this month. But it is the holiday season, so I kinda expect delays.

This month's beginner pattern is called the roughneck. It's basically a zebra midge with a tail and collar. Materials included: size 16 scud hooks, dark brown 8/0 uni thread, copper and black tungsten beads, small copper wire, spike dubbing and a nice long pheasant tail feather.

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>>2853706
The intermediate pattern for this month is a small dry fly. The pattern itself isn't that complicated, but it'll be tied on size 18 and 20 hooks. The pattern is called the half hatched midge. Materials included: size 18 and 20 dry fly hooks, black 8/0 uni thread, midge size grizzly hackle, antron yarn, gray foam(1mm? very thin), gray polly yarn and peacock hurl.

I've tied 4 roughnecks and am working on another 4. 4 of each bead color. It's a very easy pattern. I'll tie up some of these later tonight.

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>>2853706
I'll be heading to Hat creek on Tuesday. Should be a great opportunity to try these out. There are brook trout and the odd brown in addition to the rainbows I usually catch. So I'm hoping to see one of those. It's off season, so they shouldn't be too pressured this time of year.

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>>2853707
And here are the half hatched midges. Antron yarn for the tail/shuck some gray poly yarn and foam for the wing and a mini Griffiths gnat in the middle. These look like they should work well, if the fish are looking up.

>>2853642
Unfortunately, that's incompatible with tenkara.
>>2853645
>>2853671
I've only watched two animes to completion, and only one of them was good. Last time I had sushi was well-over 10 years ago. I do not have dolls or body pillows. I was exposed to tenkara multiple times, and then, it really grew on me as an alternative to euro nymphing. George Daniel agrees.

>>2853564
uni to uni is perfectly fine

>>2853671
I forgot, with my tenkara rod, I can easily reach 20+ ft away.

Whats everyone everyones on thoughts on swivles? I used to use them all the time, but realised I caught a lot more without them. Maybe thats because I was only fishing for a few months and I naturally got more skilled, but even if its placebo I prefer without.

>>2853762
I always tie a swivel to my braid and then a 2 foot leader of mono to spinners and most other lures. Getting the line all twisted up sucks

>>2853762
>Whats everyone everyones on thoughts on swivles?
yes
depend the rig and lure you use, but it can be necessary if your lure need to not turn on itself or to prevent line twist
and it's probably placebo
painted or matt black swivels can avoid being a distraction from your lure, same for weights

>>2853762
really helpful in flowing water to stop your line from getting spun around.

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i aint done the cichlid shit b4 got many tilapia in thailand. saw a striped snakehead in a lil shitty canal near thailand's equivalent to costco called makro

I'm making an absolute Frankenstein's monster of a rig.

>>2853882
Alright I'll bite
Post an image

>>2853889
I don't have everything yet. I need braid.

Conditions are pissing me off, i got snowed out of the rivers the last two weeks (my car would certainly havd gitten stuck in the lake effect snow) and then jn a couple days its supposed to be 50 and rainy so all the rivers will be blown out and all the ice will be ruined. I need to wet a line damn it!

>Left all of my good gear in the wife's car
>Morning is perfect for fishing
>Don't want to show up at her work for my shit again
>Decide to scrounge the house for loose tackle and some half broken rod/reel combo
Deciding between the zebco 202 and the old penn surf reel I can't cast at all it's a tough choice.

>>2853903
Send it with the 202 anon you got this

Any general advice for ice fishing? I've heard to only go on 4" or thicker surfaces; bought a thermal tent and have toboggan, unsure about what rigs to try or how fish behaviour may change in winter as I've never ice fished; I do bait and lure and I do already have a fishfinder that I mounted for use

>>2853914
>only go on 4" or thicker surfaces
Great rule of thumb, very cold clear ice you can get away with a little thinner. Buy or make an ice chisel so you can stab at the ice to check its integrity.
>fish behavior
They usually become lethargic and move to deep main lake structure- points, flats near deeper water, humps, holes, so on.
>rigs
Rigging is very simple. Jigging spoons are good, inuse snap swivels with them personally. Jig heads are good, too, i usually tip them with a maggot or minnow. For live bait all you need is a hook and a splitshot, just like you were bobber fishing, but you may or may not want or need the bobber depending on variables.

The big thing so many people fuck up is order of operations setting up their fishing spot. Find fish first, then set up the shanty. If youre in a hole for 5 minutes without seeing a fish on your sonar you need to be fishing somewhere else. Once you catch a fish or 3 then set up the shanty and drill extra holes.

>>2853907
I found an ultralight GX2 in the closet and used that, catching shit seconds after every cast in winter feels like cheating.

>>2853930
Congrats anon! Any pictures of fish for the thread?
>>2853914
>>2853927
Oh also get your ice spikes and studs for your shoes, the studs will keep you from falling and the spikes will get you out if you fall through

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>>2853931
>>2853914
You can buy ice spikes or make your own with some nails and a dowel/broom stick/regular stick

>>2853898
>>2853903
I'm going to add to the griping in this thread. Currently, I'm sitting in my La Z Boy in a lot of pain. I have a high tolerance to caine drugs. This is without ever having used cocaine. I'd love to try it, but that's neither here nor there. Due to trauma, my big toenail is fucked up. It needed to be removed. This isn't my first rodeo. I had two partial toe nail removals on my other foot, and god damn, this one hurts the worst. We had subzero temperatures this weekend, and now, it is going to get above freezing. I was hoping to be able to fish on the river tomorrow, but that's incredibly unlikely. Maybe Wednesday.

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>>2853931
>Any pictures of fish for the thread?
I don't take a lot of pictures since my phone is falling apart, best I got from today. More pikeminnow, but now they're very silver instead of green.

I got new gear in an attempt to get new species. Shame it's so cold that I can't try it.

>>2854021
Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis?

>>2854022
Below freezing where I'm at.

Bros im so fucking tired of trout fishing, but the bass/catfish are stupid here and refuse to bite ANYTHING in the winter. Do I just sit and seethe about unengaging fishing or am I doing something wrong? For context, I live in southern NM. Have tried slow texas rigs, wacky worms, drop shots, even worm on bobber and bottom. Only thing I can get to bite at all is trout on inline spinners. Its getting old

>>2854034
>Unengaging
>Worm under a bobber
Alright youtuber.

Have you tried a ned rig? Go slow, let it sit in one spot for several seconds before moving it.

Or you know, going where the bass are and not where the trout are?

Is the zen tenkara suimenka a good choice for a first rod?

>>2854112
No, because its not a rod.

>>2854112
I am not very familiar with the company, so I decided to look into it. The suimenka seems fairly stiff for the kind of fishing that I'm doing. Zen Tenkara uses Fly Rod Approximate Equivalency rating, and they say it is a 6 WT equivalent. I don't know about you, but I fish tenkara on spring creeks, so that seems fairly stout.
One thing I will say is that at least you're not cheaping out. However, you definitely do not need to spend that kind of money on your first tenkara rod. My first rod, which I am very happy with, is the Dragontail Mizuchi. Everyone I know who has owned one loves it. Dragontail is a widely recommended company, especially for people who don't want to deal with the tribulations of buying JDM equipment. I'm happy to discuss this further.

>>2854119
Pole? Fish stick?
>>2854120
I liked that it had adjustable length and seemed versatile by switching the tips
I wanted something that could handle fairly large trout and wasnt too long to occasionally navigate tighter creeks

Getting a #20 on 2lb braid is what Hell must be like.

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im got an big bass thru the ice

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>>2853714
Didn't catch anything on these today. No takers on hare's ear, pat's, yarn egg either. But I did finally catch a couple on a rainbow warrior. Not sure if it was the switch to the new fly or the new spot. But I got several hits and two hookups that jumped the hook in addition to the two I landed. They were all hitting at the exact same spot. Almost like there was a line of them waiting for food in the same spot.

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>>2854157

>>2854122
>>2854122
Get the Mizuchi. It will handle big trout. I've caught healthy bass on it. The Mizuchi is a zoom rod with a stiff tip changeout, but I only use the stock tip. The Mizuchi is a collaboration with Tom Davis, a (tenkara) famous and very thorough reviewer who fishes tight streams in the Tetons. I'm a Driftless angler, so I recommend my locals Tenkara in the iowa driftless and Tenkara Genki. They and many other YouTubers have Mizuchi footage. I'm a big fan of 3.0 Shimotsuke level line with it, but right now, you can only buy it direct from Japan.

>>2854157
Im jealous. I dont think im going to get to fish the entire month if december.
>Almost like there was a line of them waiting for food in the same spot
Theyll do that, every fish wants to be in a premium location and theyll stack up if theres space and they're too lethargic to fight over the spot.

>>2854171
Any daiwa, nissin, or other japanese brands you'd recommend that are in a similar class? Probably a 340 or 360 zoon at the max

>>2854214
>>2854214
If you want to buy Japanese, I'd definitely buy Nissin. I've been interested in getting one of their rods.

>>2854205
Fish eat in chocolate milk and high water. There's no reason that you can't go out. Plus, don't you live near Eerie? Get out there and fish.

>>2854249
Im no stranger to fishing high and muddy but fishing at double normal flows is already particularly difficult much less quadrouple normal flows
>erie
Theres too much ice to fish and not enough ice to fish. I cant fish after work while conditions are okay because of daylight savings, id get to the river just in time to go home because im out of daylight.

>>2854205
It's been an odd year here in norcal. There's snow on Shasta and Lassen, but it hasn't even frosted at some of the lower elevations. My brother in law is up at 3000ft and hasn't seen snow or frost yet. And there's a massive hundreds of miles long bank of fog that has blanketed the central valley from Shasta County down into socal and it's just been sitting here for more than 20 days! Washington and Oregon are getting an atmospheric river and we're not. But a set of weather just hit yesterday and it finally rained again and should continue all week. Hopefully it pushes this fog out, it's miserable!

>>2854065
Tried a ned a few times and haven't gotten even a nibble. Maybe I'm fucking up my retrieve somehow but I doubt it. I let it sit for about 3-4 seconds before hopping it.

>fish where the bass are and not trout
Brother i live in a desert its a miracle there are even fish here. NM stocks both trout and bass in the same lakes/ponds/reservoirs. Ive caught trout while bass fishing and bass while trout fishing in the spring out of the same lake in the same day.

>>2854318
The advice you were given still rings true. Catfish and bass don't live in the same places despite inhabiting the same waterbodies. If you are fishing cut bait in deep holes expecting bass, you are doing it wrong. Look into bass habitat, particularly for this time of year and for your local waterbodies, and consider using stickbait, jigs, smaller lures, etc.

Great news! The weather report changed, the rain didn't come, and the rivers should be fishable this weekend! The hype is real

>>2854365
Nice! Good luck!

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Finally had a warm night and some good bites with my paddletail and jighead

2 bluefish, 4 speckled trout, 2 big catfish

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>>2854365
>>2854414
Well that excitement was short lived
>pic related
>>2854441
Nice blue. Bet he shredded youf paddle tail though.

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>>2854475
For reference, 500cfs is typicsl, its hard to fish below 300cfs, hard to fish above 700cfs, and near impossible to fish above 1200cfs.

>No rain all year
>Finally get some rain
>Water level is now 5 feet higher than it was all year on the river
>Now I don't even know where to fish because there's a lot more options
Life is suffering.

I bought a tiny little spoon because I liked how it looked, not realizing it's meant for fly rods and it's basically impossible to cast it more than 5 feet.

I still caught a bass first "cast". I'll take it I guess.

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>>2854516
you can properly stick it onto one of picrel to add some weight

>>2854517
>properly
meant probably

>>2854516
Show the spoon

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>>2854524
Came in a pack of 2 at a little shop.

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20 pikeum and an littel snacc

>>2853534
I said about fishing. I might shit up your thread if you're rude

>>2854517
I like that spoon. No matter what you do to make it fishable, you'll want a swivel on it. Im a little annoyed it doesnt come with a micro swivel.

Been fishing on the river the past week. No fish. It's been a grind. I got a bite, I think, today, but it was so soft, and I missed the hookset.

>>2854661
What baits are you using? Ive had similar poor luck and the line guides constantly freezing is a pain in the ass

>>2854726
Keitech ez shiner, bobby garland baby shad swimmr.

Managed to get out for a few hours. Couldnt find the fish but it was a good time overall.

Can't get a fish on, I've caught one since November. Fishing with spinners in western Washington lakes. Any advice?

>>2854822
What do you target with what spinner?

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Did someone say spinners?

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You guys were no help i had to learn to fish on my own. Ive been sticking to the pier. Random pic. I'll do a dump soon.

>>2854827
I'm targeting rainbow trout with ~1/8 oz been trying with panther martins, rooster tails, vibrax blue fox, kastmaster

>>2855015
Sorry we couldnt be proper help. Im glad to see you're figuring it out though!

>>2855017
Where are you fishing? 1/8 oz might be too big. I often prefer size 1 and 2 Panther Martins. People are retarded and argue with me on this, but you need the tiniest snap swivel in order to prevent line twist. On a piece of spinning metal, I don't see why you'd get bothered by another piece of spinning metal that makes life easier. I pretty much exclusively throw Panther Martins because I mostly fly fish, but I ought to get into other spinners.

>>2855017
i'll second the other guy on the swivel, i'll add that once a fish is hooked your spinning metal doesn't spin, so you need a swivel
i think 1/8oz is fine but trying smaller is certainly a good idea, i'd use a mepps, some models can have a fly like dressing on the hook
also fish get slower and deeper when it's cold, reel slower than in summer

>>2855028
>>2855029
I am using a swivel. I would go smaller but then I can't cast more than 20ft. Even on my UL rod

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>>2855017
I had great luck with the Thomas/swiss swing spinners this year

>>2850406
Do you guys recommend any fishing backpacks?

>>2855045
piscifun
35 bucks on scamazon

I don't want to dox myself, but I want to share this windfall. In August, I was checking a famous website for YUM colors, and they had an iCast giveaway survey, which I filled out. Finally, they have received all the new products included in their prize packs, and today, I got mine. Here's what I won.

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>>2855054
Reposting picture.

>>2855055
Not a bad little haul thats pretty sweet

>>2855041
>>2855041
When i go small i sometimes put a splitshot just after the spinner, the swivel you can put it higher on the line, like you would do if you used a leader

>>2855055
what is the purpose of that urchin looking thing exactly?

>>2855055
Damn, a Curado on top of all that shit? Congratulations.

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post some fuckin fish ydontcha

>>2855055
>>2855054
Nice haul. That curado, jerk baits, and the 3" paddle tails would excite me most.

>>2855059
Finesse stuff for pressured bass- its one of those "do more nothing/stop over working it" finesse lures
>>2855063
Hopefully ill have fish pics soon

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>>2855067
these the ones i kept

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>>2855063
yessur

>>2855063
It's been a tough December here, at least at the usual spots

What are some good knot for very thin leader line? While fishing ultralight I keep breaking off and getting cut off with 4-5lb FC, and 99% of the time the improved clinch and drop shot knots are the ones to give out

>>2855092
I use the clinch knot 90% of the time. I don't use the improved, I've heard it's actually weaker than the standard. Leave yourself around a 1/8in tag, don't cut it flush or it can slip. If you want to double up the line, if you have the space in the hook eye, I also like the palomar knot(the other 10%).

>>2855092
And don't forget to lube up your line with spit. Friction damage is the #1 knot killer in thin fishing line.

>>2855094
>>2855095
Acknowledged, thanks. Do you think the palomar is also better suited for ultra finesse dropshots?

I bought a cheap 8' rod/reel but I have no idea what I'm doing.

>>2855095
Different guy but i burn mono every time i tie a clinch or trilene in mono
No clue what I'm doing wrong but are there other knots that are less prone to burning?

>>2855110
palomar is best for everything

>>2855121
>>2855110
palomar is great on paper but it's a bitch to do on anything thicker that 0.25mm and it's not that strong
improved uni (going twice into the eye) is better
i almost exclusively use uni and it's variations

>>2855122
>0.25mm
wouldn't know, anything over 17lb is braid for me
knot strength is irrelevant, they are all perfectly fine if tied correctly and not burnt

>>2855015
where are you fishing? looks like some lil guys I catch here in socal

>>2855132
>>2855132
>>2855132
early thread to avoid skid fucking it up again