Do you take your old man /out/?
>>2850689I don't own one anymore it died
>>2850690Ah, pity.
>>2850690Same here, but I take the wife's old man. She thinks he is completely incapable of basic shit like hiking so she won't take him.
>>2850695Based.
I would but he never wants to go. He always has some excuse and ends up farting around the house all day.
>>2850713Bummer, was he always like that?
I do. He brought me out to begin with after all. He's a great dad and I love him and every day I'm more aware of his mortality. I can't believe almost every human has to go through the loss of their parent, I'm already torn up about little things like his hearing worsening or him slowing down a bit on harder excursions.
>>2850781I hear you. My father has always been pretty fit, but he's approaching 70. He's chuffing like a steam train on relatively moderate ascends.
I'm a orphan raised by my grandma/grandpa. My grandma hates anything outdoor, but my grandpa loved it. He was raised in a farm on rural Brazil in the 40s/50s so he loved riding horses, fishing, hunting. He also worked on a slaughterhouse, so he had knowledge with various animals.Unfortunely, he never came to pass me these knowledge because he died way too soon (fuck cancer). I wish he was here so we could go fishing, hiking and cooking various types of meat. I miss him everyday.
He usually takes us, whenever I'm down there for a visit. He hasn't come up to see me in Alaska yet so I haven't had the chance to take him anywhere
>>2850689I took my 73 year old dad to Patagonia for a month a few years ago. We did a 5 day trek in Torres del Paine and he even went white water rafting with me in Futaleufú
>>2850837Reminds me very much of an old Austrian song. It's about the singer's deceased grandpa and how he only now understands everything he was told by him. Parts of the refrain translate to "Grandfather, why don't you come down for a quick coffee", which I find really sweet.
>>2850840Damn, I'd love to see Alaska some time.
>>2850837>he had knowledge with various animalsthat sounds wrong
It's complicated. When I was a child, he started me on hikes I would say rather early. Now, I've seen plenty of people take their babies in papooses up mountains, and I don't mean that. But he took me on some fairly difficult hikes (though not mountaineering) when I was ~6 years old starting, and I have no idea to this day how he found them or got the idea - he grew up in a midwestern city with no hills and never did any outdoor stuff growing up my mom and sister have never hiked in their livesMy dad was a championship athlete - and he's very competitive, and he pushes hard, and well, I am not athletic and he's never been respectful of our differences. He's not the type to encourage you or slow down for you, he just pushes past and tells you to stop complaining. Not ideal. As an adult, he sort of retired, and I'm still figuring my life out, so we ended up having these trips that were part to visit my grandmother, part to see the mountains, starting around 2018. We had sort of a long, off no-hiking period from when I was a teen to up until then. He hated hiking. He hated driving. He hated long drives. He wouldn't let me drive - at all. He complained bitterly the whole drive. He never stayed with me on the hikes. He would go off ahead, even not knowing where to go. He cannot read an app to figure out where he is or where the trail is. He's totally reliant on me if the trail isn't very easy and obvious - and it rarely is. He's in his 70s now and he's still much faster than I am. And I tend to pick challenging (for my body) routes. Not because I want that, but because that's where the most interesting sites are. Once, he dropped his phone in a heath maze after making a wrong turn because he couldn't read his phone up close (didn't bring reading glasses on the hike), and just went in a direction and I followed him - and it was the wrong one. He got very mad at me over that. He never admits to being wrong. He's an extremely difficult person.
Now, I got my own car. Now he never hikes with me. I miss having someone else to drive. Now, I go on my own. He doesn't ever come with. None of my family have any interest in the outdoors. I wish I had a cool dad who liked me and respected me But I got what I got, and I'm grateful to have gone places.
>>2851170Sounds like he is. I guess very competitive people often are.
>>2850689No because he has always preferred sitting at home and watching the local sports teams lose every weekend, year after year, decade after decade. The only time we ever did anything outdoors was during times of crisis, to discuss our problems while casually walking "outdoors". It wasn't until I became financially established that I even got into outdoor activities after wasting my youth staring at screens. Since then, I've been trying to make up for lost time and learn different outdoor activities that nobody ever showed me how to do. Not wanting my kids to have a deprived childhood like I had, I tried taking them out on trips in the past. Well, they didn't care for me pushing the pace on hikes, leaving them behind or anything to do with camping. So they spend their days in front of screens anyway while I go on my solo adventures whenever I'm not bogged down by work and other life responsibilities. Better late than never for that. >>2851002Incredibly based. Way more based than watching the n-words run around on television every weekend.
>>2851270Heh, sounds like me.Although my older daughter would like to go hiking with me more often, I just have to stop looking for difficult tours just for myself every weekend.
>>2851271Make the most of the opportunities when they present themselves, fren. I'm hoping that either of my kids eventually comes around but I'm done forcing anything on them.
>>2851274have you tried not doing an activity that pushes you to a high level of exertion and not considering that since your children are scaled down versions of you that they can only reasonably handle scaled down versions of the trips you'd take on your own. I think most children want to do things with their parents if their parents make any attempt at making the activity not hell on earth for themchild who didn't wanna do anything with my dad cause he never even attempted to meet me in the middle.
>>2850689No, my father and grandfathers and all my uncles died when I was in my twenties. I've carried a lot of coffins. Life's a beach.
i´ve been camping with my Dad since before i could walk, we go canoeing, camping, foraging at least 2-3 times a monthgetting drunk with you dad in the woods by the campfire is a great time, and i think it is actually a great bonding and learning experience
>>2850689My old man's in prison for life for raping children.What's it like going /out/ with your father?
>>2851322>i think it is actually a great bonding and learning experience100%
>>2851405>What's it like going /out/ with your father?You get to see other sides of him that he wouldn't show when he was just 'the father at home'. You start to realize that he's been a young guy at some point as well, doing all the stupid shit he would scold you for while you lived at home.
>>2850689The only outdoorsy activity he's ever been interested in was boating but he gave that up long ago. Now the outdoors to him is working in the garage with the door open.
>>2851418Damn. That sounds kino. I hope I can be that kind of father one day.
>>2850689I used to, he was my best friend. We camped everywhere. He died two years ago, and I haven't been camping since.I miss him.Pic related, one of our trips
>>2851442Sorry, Anon. You really should go out and camp again.
>>2850689No. He has refused to do anything outdoors except for work for his whole life. He thinks hiking/camping/walking is a chore and a waste of time.
I go climbing with my dad all the time now that he's retired. Recently he's been visiting the climbing gym 3x per week so that he can climb harder routes with me. We've been on some great adventures together.Growing up he was always the distant/stern father figure type and we didn't really get to connect much. Climbing together has been really great for our relationship because we have to demonstrate complete trust in each other in sometimes high-consequence situations, and the roles are reversed in that I'm more of a mentor/guide. In those moments, while dependent on me for his own safety, he has only ever shown absolute confidence in my abilities and decision-making. That means a lot.Aside from that, it's just very satisfying sharing an experience together in the outdoors that we are both passionate about. Neither of us are much for sitting around and talking so this is how we connect.
>Having a father
>>2851418You didn't realize this when he took you out? Kinda something you figure out well before your both 50+
There be cloudberries.
>>2853044RIP, old man's last doggo
>>2851870Who said he every took me out?
No, he is an absolute narcissist ass hole reverberating negative energy any time he speaks. I do not ever want to interact with him.
>>2853096Ouch.
>>2850689The last time I saw my father was 3 years ago at a family funeral. We didn't say a word to each other.Imagine loving your father. I hope I get to pull his plug.
>>2850689Whenever I go to a national park he wanted to visit, I bring his urn.
>>2850689I used to. But he's 84 now, has a bad hip, approaching Alzheimer's and wouldn't enjoy it.
>>2853287Based, I hope one day, many years from now, my son will do that for me.
>>2853316I'm trying to convince my sisters and my step mom to let me dump it at the grand canyon. I'm already trying to figure out a way to include his ashes in some resin to turn into beads for them to wear, and a set of dice for me since he grew up with original d&d, and i forever dm with his stories in mind
