>crowded af>rocks falling on people's heads>higher death rate than DenaliI'd like to climb a really big mountain but Mont Blanc is certainly not my dream, despite its beuty. Grossglockner is much less suicidal if you have some climbing experience.
>>2852012>4694 m of prominence>2812 km of isolation>a walkupyep, count me inalso if you had an iq above room temperature you would know that rockfall happens only in one place during the hottest hours of the day and even then most of the time nothing happens
>I'm a pussy, rocks scare me
>>2852012>higher death rate than DenaliHigher death rate often do not indicate the mountain is more dangerous, just that it attracts more unqualified people. Denali has a high barrier to entry, you have to charter a flight that drops you off on a glacier in the middle the of nowhere and be prepared to spend weeks camping on the glaciers in extreme weather. Mont Blanc is much, much easier to attempt. So it attracts more idiots who don't know what they are doing.
Mont Blanc is the meme hill of the alps. Guides turn down thousands of fatties and there are still tards everywhere.
>>2852012>>2852108I'm going to assume the "lower" death rate on Denali also has to do with the guides. I knew three guides for Denali, and their service would flat out refuse to take you to the summit if you're out of shape or otherwise a risk to yourself and the guides. I've never been to Denali, so I'm not sure if guiding is mandatory, but if it is then that explains it.
>>2852121>so I'm not sure if guiding is mandatoryIt is not mandatory. But like I said you have to be extremely competent to attempt it without one. You have to charter your own flight and prepare all the supplies you need to handle living out on a glacier for 3 weeks.
>>2852012the alps is great but crowded af and also expensive as fuck. are there other comparable places in europe that aren't as crowded and expensive? i'm thinking like the pyrenees, but even less well known. maybe somewhere in the baltics, or greece, are there any good mountains there?
>>2852135Tatra (slovakia/poland) or carpathians (romania).>balticsLelMight as well search for mountains in the netherlands.
>>2852138Polish part of Tatra is ceowded too but I still like it
>>2852135In may im going to picos da europa
>>2852135Then this part is for you.Not crowded because of very difficult mountains. Not expensive, either.
>>2852189i live close by, let me know if you want to hook up
If day hikers can erect a hot tub at the summit of your mountain, it's absolutely a normie tier peak.
>>2852280>Not crowded because of very difficult mountainsI thought it works the other way around cause difficulties tend to cause traffic jams
hello i am basquePyrennees are very nice to hitch most time of years, with beautiful scenery all around you. The fauna is not scared of the people that trails here as long as you don't aggressively run at them. Plus there's Pottoks, tiny wild horses, to see.As for tourism, you can expect them during summer and winter but it's not alps level, even less when you attempt the tougher trails.If you want cheap supplies or fuel, shop in spain btw because our gov is retarded and everything is expensive for nothing but it's still less expensoie than most regions. Also, if you go to the pays basque, be prepared to see both french and basque written around.
>>2852108How possible would it be to pack all of the necessary stuff, fly to Anchorage or somewhere, go to Denali National Park by a bus or train, hike to the base camp and climb the mountain using the stuff you (and optionally your similarly retarded friends) carry on your back?
