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>>2852759
the indoor winged bean flowers

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Some of you guys must be fig growers right? It's pretty trendy? My soil sucks for vegetables so I've been reading a lot about trees with useful foliage like Chinese toon and strawberry gum. Fig leaves come up quite a bit in this discussion as being kinda similar to pandan. Is that really true? Do they smell and taste nice, or is it mostly planty with a hint of something nice? If you have any other suggestions I'd love to hear them.

>>2852791
Fig trees definitely have their own smell and it's quite noticeable, I don't think I ever ate the leaves but it should be very aromatic
Also it's very phototoxic and the latex is corrosive as well, so don't be a retard

>>2852791
IMO fig leaves smell like cat piss, some more than others

t. 30+ fig trees

>>2852837
Maybe it depends on the variety? It's in some Old World recipes. The claim I see online is there's like a rich nutty fragrance when you crush them. You might have to pick young leaves and toast them to get anything out of them.

What's up guys I'm gonna grow my own food next year. What are the best sources for info that isn't some retarded YouTuber nor 4chan paste bin of schizo shit post rants

I'm starting with two 4' x 8' x ~16" raised beds and soil from local nursery.
I want to grow enough lettuce onions tomato peppers carrots and more, family of 4.
Experience is hydroponic tomatoes in an apartment that turned out pretty good.

>>2852908
Grok is pretty good unironically if you give your location and ask for varieties for the climate. He's good at tables and lists so you don't have to read each individual listing on a store page. A lot of advice is going to be specific to your climate and your space, so only you can really decide what to do. I recommend just looking up each plant and learning its life cycle and its general locale/strategy, so when they say some carrot variety has been improved to work in hotter weather or denser soil you can have context for why they needed that and whether you need it too.

For example:

Carrots and anything else in the parsley family struggle if your Summers are hot and they're under direct midday Sun. They like to stress flower, ruining them for eating purposes, so it's important to know their limits and keep them a little shaded or plant them only during the cooler parts of year (they're cool climate plants so they won't die). If you live in a cold area, the reverse is true instead and they need the Summer.

Many crops get overly mature or go to seed and need to be harvested at the right time. Everything takes a different amount of time to grow so you can break up the year into multiple harvests and replantings, whatever can tolerate the weather that time of year. Tomatoes (and peppers and cucumbers) are different because flowering is good and they keep flowering forever until the cold stops them, but the space is basically producing nothing during Spring while they're establishing, and then nothing again once the weather cools and for all of Winter.

As you can see this is mostly a time management problem. With care, you can always have something to harvest. Onions can be planted right away in Spring and you can pick and eat them in the early stages and make room for the mature bulbs later while doing it, so you always get something. Even better, there are perennial onions and stuff like chard you can harvest all year long, but only really the tops.

>>2852855
>Maybe it depends on the variety?
That's what "some more than others" means lol. Panache is the stinkiest variety I have

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>>2852759
How it started: >>2847309

How it's going:

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>>2853259

I'm trying an indoor herb garden again but I don't understand what I'm doing wrong when it comes to pruning.

I clip off bits above the nodes, leaving enough leaves to keep taking in light, have the grow lights the right distance from the pots, I water from the bottom, etc and they're still leggy as fuck and and half of them are limp

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>>2853260
He's been spooked out.

>>2853262
too hot? what are you growing?

>>2853266
typical stuff- parsleys, basils, mints, rosemary, cilantro, etc.

temperature shouldnt be a problem, they're in my apartment which is constantly 65-70F, and the led grow lights are cool to the touch let alone being a short distance above the plants.

>>2853269
do you run a fan?

>>2853270
I haven't this time around, last time it seemed like it didn't help at all

Do one of you guys grow weed? I know it's looked down upon here.

>>2853310
I've grown quite a bit but all indoors

>>2853310
it is easy af if you dont plan on doing it bigtime. all you need is pots. i unironically have more trouble with fucking parsley. it is a very motivating plant and fun to watch grow for sure. crazy fast. you dont need 90 percent of the bullshit they try to sell you. just a proper south window or garden.

is there any problem with spraying tobacco solution on my indoor crops? works pretty good amd the plants dont seem to mind. i hope the fruits wont give me nicotin poisoning...

>>2853314
Based I'm growing it in my closet. I want to grow outside in the spring but I'm worried it might get too big. Nobody but my neighbors will see it but I don't know if they approve.
>>2853363
I do want to sell a little bit on the side but most of it is just for fun. I got a cheap grow light off of Amazon and it does work so you are right. I just need to leave it the fuck alone most of the time

>>2853374
Oh, and I am growing orange runtz, blueberry muffin (x3) and nectarine kush. All are smooth for now

>>2853374
with weed growing it is a little like with lifting weights. people tend to make a huuuge deal out of it. a science even. yet its so simple lmao. its called weed for a reason.

>>2853363
Parsley my beloathed

>>2853374
I used to fuss over it a lot. Last few grows I did kratky hydro, it literally just sat in a tote the entire time and all I did was change the height of the light as it grew. Definitely not yield maxing but worth it not to have to think about it pretty much at all. Same method also grew extremely prolific campari tomato plants though I had to prune those a lot.

>>2853400
Picture? I have kratky jars I could use.. did u fertilize?

>>2853401
I just put water, calmag and maxi bloom in a 20 gallon tote, adjusted ph, put the seedling in a net pot with some hydroton, changed the light schedule after 8 weeks and that was it. Make sure there is no way for light to get into the tote.

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>>2853406
>calmag
"Ancient Chinese secret," huh?

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I'm soon buying a house with enough land to stick one of these things on them. Planning on getting a 5x20m model (roughly 16x65 feet). What's the best way to optimise crops in there. I was looking into hydroponics as well. I guess I could even try aquaponics. I even have some caves in which I could grow mushrooms.
What do you guys suggest? Any tips or resources for this plan of mine?

>>2853646
Depends what you want to grow. If you put some more permanent poles you can support stuff by clothesline or a weave. Frost tender perennials like tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, some herbs, etc. can live in there forever and you can also use them for cuttings to propagate outside as annuals instead of by seed. It's a good safe storage place for rooting cuttings and germinating when there's nothing else going on, so you may not want to bother using it fully for crops, just as a prep area during Winter.

Growing plants from seed can really eat into the season, and then their growth plateaus for a while while they set up their roots, which wastes even more time. Starting from cuttings that were allowed to root during Winter saves a ton. I mentioned some nightshades because the indeterminate varieties can flower all year long if weather permits, so having mature plants already established when the weather warms up means the season starts way earlier and therefore goes way longer. It doesn't work for everything but you get the idea, this gives you some special powers you didn't have without a greenhouse.

...could someone pretty please answer if its bad to spray tobacco solution? i know some dude ITT does it and i think i got the idea from some south american here. it works great but i am scared it might poison the chilis. nicotin is no joke if not smoked unironically.

i guess it grows out?

>>2853764
won't that infect the soil with tmv?

>>2853766
the plants dont seem to mind and the lice die. it was my last try before doing a full swipe. i am just concerned i might be poisoning myself.

>>2853767
i think you're right, it seems like it accumulates in your plants for a while, might be better to help something establish in SA but not if they're annuals in NA you have to eat this year

>>2853767
ive searched and asked ai already but i get conflicting responses and lets be honest these llms are getting more retarded and time wasting by the week.

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>>2853764
Shilling for pyrethrin again

>>2852759
Anyone have experience with lemon trees? I want to grow one but I live in Michigan so the climate isn't there.

>>2853808
yuzu and yuzu hybrids and kumquats do ok slightly below freezing, poncirus hybrids potentially can go lower but vary a lot and most if not all varieties are highly questionable, and neither is suitable for your area; i'm planning on thomasville citrangequats but i live in the south

the foliage basically dies back more and more the colder it gets but they can come back if the root survives, but they do ok with protection during wintertime though sometimes the fruits arent ready by then, i'd say dont do it unless you are confident you can keep them in a greenhouse or something

>>2853808
Howdy neighbor. I have two lemons, two limes and a kumquat that live inside during the winter. They're not hard to grow, a sunny southern facing window is all they need. The smell of the blossoms is heavenly

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no matter what the fuck I do these fuckers keep appearing back in my potted plants.

I need a final solution

>>2853908
*taps sign* >>2853784

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>>2852759
Remember to eat your seed before planting for next year lads.

>>2853962
Imagine someone walking in on you kneeling over the toilet, tearing your poo logs apart with your bare, shit-covered hands, and all you can tell them is "the san marzanos are gonna be great this summer"
And also there's poo all over your mouth and teeth for some reason too

>>2853971
>Over your mouth and teeth
Got to get that extra fine mulch bud, what're you complaining about?

I tend to just pull me kegs down and squat over the compost bin in the local parish allotments. It's nicer to be surprised by tomato plants popping up randomly in the plot.

Do you guys have any experience with ground cherries? Is there any easy way to support the branches and make them a little taller? If you don't know, imagine a tomato plant but half the height and twice the width, long horizontal branches.

>>2854019
Helium/hot air baloons or a frame above the plant with lines to hold the branches.

>Do you guys have any experience
I don't know what a plant is, never seen one before.

>>2854047
If you're gonna be mean you could at least humor the question... I was just hoping there was a simplified solution rather than massive supports everywhere. I guess I'll just give up and not grow them, thanks for your help.

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>>2854068
Sorry anon, didn't realise it came across as mean, I didn't intend that.

Just gave it a quick guggle and found this pic which is an interesting take on support frames.

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>>2853962
https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/tomato-sewage-pegwell-bay-b1955704.html

Huh, it's real.

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next problem: what is it and how do i murder it? i think it might be some fungus.
this is starting to piss me off.

>>2854336
What plant is it anon? Different plants have different pests..

>>2854337
tabasco chili. i think it is what we call mehltau but i dont know. doesnt seem white enough.

>>2854338
Whitefly juveniles or their eggs maybe? Is it like a powder to touch?

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>>2854339
sorry i was out for a run.
yeah like crumply but tiny mold freckles. i do hav a slight problem with these tiny flys that you get from the soil but these are different i think. i though its some shroom. also this is happening rapidly and this time actually seems to damaga the plant.

its never easy is it?

>>2854343
For the mould it might just be a type of mildew. Bordeaux mixture is what i'm reading as a pretentativ measure rather than a cure. Perhaps if you did a spray after cleaning/dusting most of the surface mould off would work.

>>2854345
mildew is probably it.
my neighbor just said i can spry milk on it and it will eat the fungus??

>>2854346
Huh, never heard that one. Not harm in giving it a go anon.

>>2854347
if i have learned anything about gardening and plants in my first year 2025 then than a lot of information is kinda esoteric lol. every dude, source, ai says something different.

>>2854348
Weird, the ai just agreed with the method for me lmao.

>>2854349
ill just use a brush and try on some leaves. thing is as far as ive read these molds happen when you water too much from the top, so probably my lice tobacco spray holocaust did this. it never ends...

>>2854350
Fun fact to cheer you up; some Mildews occur due to dry conditions too.

>>2854350
it is really fucking hard to control pests indoors. all these problems started when i took my plants back inside under the lamps.
they also didnt have a winter i just kept them going. some i cut down and they grew again into little chili bonsais. i wanted to know how far i can take that. ive heard they can get 10 years+ with some species like habaneros.

>>2854351
well i dont use a grow tent etc i just have a quarter of my livingroom with plants and lamps amd some milar foil on ze floor. so i dont really get to adjust air dryness etc. and i cook in the same room. and there is a fireplace.

>>2854353
i could make it into a huge growtent thats more isolated but that doesnt look cool

im getting ready to start sweet potato slips, does the size of the sweet potato matter? im using sweet potatoes i grew last year that all originated from the same sweet potato and i have big ones i could use but i also have some really small ones that are already sprouting slips just sitting in storage. since the plants dna is the same the little ones should be fine? i guess what im asking is if i use these little ones will they grow big ones?

I had to rip up a tomato plant I've been growing since June and I feel so sick to my stomach and ashamed of myself

any citroids growing some cold citrus do any of the lime ones actually taste like lime

Should I prioritize trees or grass and herbaceous plants for mulch and biomass? I live in zone 5 Northeastern America.

>>2854528
Sign up for a chipdrop

>>2854528
Wood lasts longer for actual mulch purposes and water retention and makes for thicker insulation and more air can get through, dump the green stuff in compost

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Found some white oak acorns that the fuckass squirrels didn't get to back in September. Three months later they became sprouts, and just 6 days after sprouts they shot up this big.

>>2854678
Oaks have a deep tap root, the sooner you plant them the better

>>2854709
Yeah I was honestly surprised, I was gonna give one of these away and I was expecting in March maybe, not a week later.

>>2854709
>>2854739 (Me)
I'm also concerned about the weather before planting too because my area gets blizzards anywhere from Oct to March. But, we've been having warm weather with only one snowfall so far this year.

>>2854766
You either need to be prepared to take care of them all winter or just start over in the spring. It's not like oaks are a rare tree. Also giving your pic a second look, are you sure those aren't some species of red oak? (pointed lobes)

>>2854902
i'm surprised they're so consistently green

i am going to start using primitive thermobaric weapons soon an the lice.

at this point i think id enjoy seeing the entire thing BURN and start anew.
so this must be how god feels...m

>>2854905
actually i jammed an entire plant into my fireplace the other day and just shouted "well go fuck yourself then!"

>>2854903
Seeds have everything a plant needs for a short time, it won't last forever

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>>2854902
I presumed white oak because white bark. This is the tree I got it from.

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>>2854902
And an acorn. Lost the but it was really spikey. Your verdict?

Also oaks are rare where I live. We mostly get elms and cottonwoods.

>>2854962
>>2854963
>>2854902
Regathering my thoughts because I'm hungry and retarded.
The leaves of the tree were white when they started falling, and the acorns were cracking open on their own in mid fall instead of spring. From what I heard that sounded like white oak.

>>2854960
gotta love that fleshy pink oak color

>>2854962
>because white bark
They're called that because the underside of the leaves are white. Generally white oaks have rounded lobes and red oaks have pointed lobes. Does that tree have any leaves left on it? Oaks will keep some of their leaves til the new buds push them out in spring (marcescence)

>acorns were cracking open on their own in mid fall instead of spring
That does sound like white oak. Chinkapin in this video looks almost identical to your seedlings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIKGm4VSKDQ

>>2854515
I just discovered the Prague Chimera, it's allegedly cold hardy down to 0F with dessert quality satsumas. I'm gonna try to get my hands on one come springtime
https://hardycitrus.blogspot.com/2020/02/prague-citsuma.html

i think id like to try one of those setups where you have a pot and then a pipe that leads to perlite or charcoal at the bottom and thats how you water it. anyone know what im retardedly referring to? what are those things called?

>>2855213
Wicking beds.

My veg garden is 100% wicking beds due to large trees everywhere ganking all my resources otherwise. Doesn't need to be perlite or charcoal (expensive) I use socked ag drain pipe in the bottom of half an IBC as a water reservoir. Cover that with scorea, a large flower pot of sand in the middle to wick water right from the bottom. Then a layer of geo textile, thick layer of straw, then soil on top of that. Need an overflow pipe at the top of the scorea level, and a fill pipe going into the end of one of the ag pipes so it can't block up.

The plants use as much as they need, not a drop is wasted. Always amazes me how much water plants actually use. Grew a block of corn in one of those beds and swore it had a hole in it, how else could it use that much water but nope corn is just thirsty as fuck.

>>2855220
thanks anon! just watched this diy video of one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PODjQKSssg8

looks like a manageable project, though that video made one that's way overkill size-wise for my purposes.

any concerns about microplastics at all with these btw? geo textile is typically made of polyester and from what im seeing on youtube everybody uses plastics for the tubes as well.

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They be growing

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The root balls were getting tied together, so I'm hoping that I didn't damage the two big ones. I definitely got the taproot of the big one at least.

Never done trees before, but i tried a mix of potting soil with some dirt from the garden bed and another random patch. My thought is to help them acclimate to different soil types.

>>2855224
>microplastics
Never considered it, there is no doubt microplastics generated during the assembly since you have to cut plastic with a saw/drill etc. I'm not concerned about the geotextile since its buried and out of sunlight it should last a while. The IBC bladder itself isn't UV stable so it can break down eventually, I clad my beds in reclaimed wooden fence panels, actually looks half decent that way.

It would be hard to make this style without using any plastics. Not impossible though. The fill and overflow pipes might be a challenge.

>>2853962
This is true, plant seeds naturally spread from animal droppings. It's just the ideal conditions for them.
>>2852759
Not sure where to post this, checken /an/ and they don't have a farm thread, and this seemed like the best /out/ thread.
I just want some unbiased opinions and expertise if anyone's got any, I'm gonna be raising coturnix quail in my shed next month, they'll have 1.5 square feet each and I'll have 30 of them inside city limits.
And actually I guess I'm not even asking for people's opinions, I'm just here to rant about how RETARDED most quail farmers seem to be online. They all seem old and decrepit, they struggle to do basic math, that myshire farms guy acted like his math video on how much it costs per egg was really complicated but I did all the math in my head already before he said the answer and found a couple mistakes.

And it's like, man, is this why quail eggs and meat are so expensive? It reminds me of those SMASHED and SLAMMED breeders, like they still do give their birds good conditions and stuff but so many of them cut corners and outright are just lazy.
But insomma, 20 dollars a year to raise a jumbo quail, I'm getting 30 of them and will get meat and eggs out of my shed. EZPZ.

>>2855585
it's weird to say but yeah odds are you do know better than them if you let yourself be exposed to all kinds of innovations and convenience and science online