Is 450 CAD too much for a 100% wool anorak? everything is expensive these days it seems
>>2853823I mean at that price why not just get a wool mackinaw jacket and a blanket. They'd be the same price and you would be able to use them in more situations.
>>2853825my intention is to replace my rain coat with this so the mackinaw wouldnt cut it. i guess i could wear the blanket over my head
>>2853845>replace my rain coatWith a wool anorak? Are you desperate to miserable?
>>2853847somehow humans survived wearing felted wool in previous generations. why do we need to swaddle ourselves in petrochemicals
>>2853848Have you ever put on an anorak before? I wouldn't want to get in and out of a wet one. Just get some waxed canvas if you are petrophobic.
>>2853823>>2853848For good wool, it's not too expensive, but I question your use case. People didn't use felted wool jackets like you would a modern hardshell. They used cloaks, often of specially brushed wool. And they didn't do extended trips outdoors in that setup, but tried their hardest to find a heated room to spend the night in and dry their clothes every day.
>>2853845Wool, even dense ones like the loden from BMA (the one I have), will not give you enough protection against the rain; hell not even the wet snow given enough time. Combine it with their canvas anorak and treat it, or just get a cheap anorak from a Scandinavian surplus store and treat those as well. I use birch bark oil because I'm poor. Takes an eternity to produce in large amount and decreases the breathability, but it has to be done. You can also use a rain poncho like the Snugpak, it held up a lot better than the other rain ponchos I had. Sucks at strong wind, so tie it around your waist.
>>2853823Look into Ventile, mostly from Brit web stores. Waterproof pure cotton. Might post some links later.
>>2853859>https://hilltrek.co.uk/>https://www.weatherwisewear.co.uk/I agree with the other posters, 400 CAD is fair, but you'd be better off with Ventile.
>>2853859Known as eta proof outside the UK. Not a perfect solution either btw. I read that it wets through and gets cold and heavy. Frankly, rain gear is one of the areas where forgoing modern materials has the most drawbacks. A cheap synthetic poncho is way better than anything nonsynthetic out there.
>>2853823thanks everyone for the helpful advice and suggestions.i guess i wasnt thinking of torrential downpours since it rains all time here in the winter but its more like a constant mist
>>2853848>survivedSure. And then we learned to better then just survival.
>>2853823LARP
>>2853823you could get this hungarian military surplus coat, it looks warm and is only $20
>>2853932>EtaproofNot the same thing. >I read that it wets throughThat's how it works. Single Ventile gets humid underneath when it's wet. The water doesn't pass. Double Ventile solves that. Ventile does not have the same use as a polyurethane coated poncho. >>2854124...
>>2854194>Currently the only manufacturer of this specification of cotton textile is the Swiss firm Stotz & Co AG,[4] which spins, twists, weaves and dyes the raw materials, and sells the textile directly under its own branding of etaProof[5] cotton, supplying clothing manufacturers and wholesale textile distributors globally.>British production of Ventile eventually ended in the late 20th century[6] but the trademark continued to be used by the British company Talbot Weaving (Chorley) Limited[7] to market their wholesale distribution of etaProof cotton fabrics until 2017 when the trademark ownership was transferred to the manufacturer Stotz & Co AG.[8] Alternative registered trademarks, owned by other commercial organisations used to market, promote or distribute the fabric, include Supermarine[9] and Duuton3.[3]It's the same thing.
>>2854237Etaproof used to have some shitty synthetic DWR, Ventile was also available untreated. It goes without mention, vintage Ventile isn't etaproof either. Another product ruined by germ porkers.
>>2854253... stotz is swiss but whatever. If anglos are too dumb to produce their own inventions at marketable prices they deserve nothing less.
>>2854254Oh god... is this... it can't be...THE LODENHOG!
>>2854258Lidlphobe! My old nemesis!
i cant believe i have to explain this shit to people who supposedly go out.a 100% woll anorak is an insulation layer. if you want to add water proof around that ok. If you plan to wear it as outwear in anything but the clearest skies you're stupid. layers are a thing for very good reasons and if you're not wearing it in a basement you need water proofing.personally i like the layering on both top and bottom to be independent and flexible. walking in snow water proof boots and leggings. snowing walking on dry ground? water proof top.
>>2854723the guy in the OP is wearing it as an outer layer. checkmate.
>>2853848They would have used a shell layer of oilcloth or skins.
>>2854856Naah, medieval europeans DID use wool as rain protection layer. Oiled or waxed cloth is an early modern/modern invention and skins would be too expensive. But as I said, wool cloaks, not jackets, and of special wool with (somewhat) higher rain resistance. Not a blanket-like anorak. And they didn't spend the night outdoors after having gotten their stuff wet (or frankly ever) if they could at all avoid it. Armies campaigned in the summer. Long distance hunting trips like in the americas were not a thing (maybe in eastern europe/russia, I don't know what they did.)
you can make a shirt out of a cheap army blanket if you're just curious.
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>>2853848your waxed canvas?
>>2854727yeah but he also looks like hes in fucking Antarctica which should be damn dry.
>>2855144I read that open weave wool allows fine ice dust to be blown into it in very cold weather. So the arctic explorers instead wore densely woven fabrics, or furs.
Buffalo fur coat$6000
>>2855421she chose the bear
>>2855033Legit lold at this
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>>2854124enjoy freezing to death
>>2855656lmao, get on my level
>>2853823you need to be specific what you want the wool for.i initially wanted the thickest wool i could find so it'd last forever, but my shoulder ended up giving me strong counter arguments.on the cheaper end of mid layers i recommend stanfield sweaters (careful of thorns) or great australian bushwear shirt from everything australian. Both are about $80 last i checked. There's also Petro's wool that often has sales. Made in Ukraine.If you're not a midlayer wool user like me, and want the one that can act as an outer layer too then you want something felted that is engorged with lanolin. This is what allows the wool fibers to breathe while simultaneously wicking water off the base of the fabric until it drips/sheds off.The original Swanndri bush shirt was made for this reason. when it was invented it was one size that the maker boiled the shit out of. It's made for New Zealand weather that is unpredictable and very wet. And yes, while it is made in China now, the wool still is from New Zealand. I usually wait for these to go on sale and then buy a bunch. I usually size up and wash mine on a high heat to shrink them up a bit and then add lanolin to them. If you want a more standard fitting item, go to eBay and get a vintage Gloverall, ideally one made 50 years ago in England. Those are legit and made for another wet country. Just be ready to oil the leather on the toggles or replace them cause a lot of them are dried out.I'm gonna be completely honest here. I live in a wet climate and am not a petrochemical hater. I use both. I love wool for midlayers mostly. I have tried on a -TON- of wool from all over the world. Most wool is shite. Generally you want 80% wool or higher. You usually also want virgin wool as the hair length is longer so less pokey and more durable.I've tried on Swiss surplus wool (you'd think would be the best) and while it was wool and heavy it wasn't warm in the slightest.
>>2855812I can attest to every product I mentioned above. They're all warm, breathe well, a good value, and durable. Call me a shill, but i'm shilling for these companies all over the world. Most are too poor to afford ads.Petros wool (ukraine)stanfields (canada)great australian bushwear (australia)gloverall (uk). its now a fashion company so buy vintage.swanndri (new zealand).US gave up on wool a long time ago. What you'll see is for boutique prices. Empire Canvas Wool/Lester River is good but $$. Weatherwool is good but $$$$$$$$$$$ (I also don't see the point of buying hyper expensive merino/rambouillet wool. Not only are you paying for the softest wool but they are also the thinnest wool fibers which won't hold up to the elements if used as an outer layer compared to others. owner seems like a standup guy but strikes me as new england better days dads to talk about the good times in maine). Asbell is a better value i've tried but their wool is all over the places favoring designs over consistency and you're still looking at like $150 instead of >$100 compared to the other midlayers here.Filson Mackinaw's wool has declined over the decade for a $500 product. Last i checked only the flannel designs were still a US fabric but that may have changed. I also found the design cumbersome and rather inflexible. It's a fashion company now for entitled boomers.I've also seen the product you have in your picture OP. When I spoke to the owner they said something about not using the front pocket for storing stuff like the stitching would come undone. That never sat right with me and I looked elsewhere. If you need an Anorak go for the Swanndri (especially on sale since new zealand is one of those countries trying to become poor as fast as possible giving outsiders great conversion rates). the empire canvas is also a good design and fabric.
>>2855814here's a chart of some more common sheeps and their micron range. most places won't tell you the sheep breed they use.either they dont know the breed of sheep or its because merino has been given this mythical reputation as if it was infused by merlins chest hairs. If you want something direct to skin, it's what it's best for, however by design, it's one of the least durable wool fibers.
Thrifted Gloverall duffle coat an option?
>>2855812>>2855814Good recommendations, cheers. Just bought a petros wool hoodie on sale. Gonna keep an eye on Swanndri hudson hoodie too. Seems to be a lot of UK retailers selling them so they'll probably go on sale as well.
>>2855814>stanfieldsMfw they sell on EU amazonMfw they DON'T sell their heavyweight wool on EU amazon
Steinkauz in germany. Slightly felted and fulled doubleface with fleece jacket features.
>>2855814agreed on most everything herei can personally attest to WeatherWool being pretty damn durablecan't say i'm bushwacking through mequite thickets or sliding my butt on asphalt roads but it has been plenty durable for any camping and hiking i've doneadditionally they're one of the few current makers of 100% wool denim, ever since i got my denim jeans from them i've constantly worn them or their (midweight) jacquard pants that i've had for the last yearthey are pricey but once you actually wear it and feel it you definitely see why it's worth it
>>2853823You might as well get a used fur coat on eBay.I never understood the advantages of an anorak over a jacket desu.
>>2855924i always got mine from nz naturals or something like that. shipping wasn't bad or free but its been 5 years.i had to wait about 6 months on last sale but they discontinued a color and offered them for about half off then.>>2855955sorry anon. there's probably some icelandic scandinavian manufacturer out there but its $$ to send overseas here usually from europe. Petros wool in ukraine is good if you're not looking for sweater. It's more like reverse engineered fleece (which ironically was made 50 years ago to mimic wool.)>>2855968yeah i spoke to the owner and seems like a standup guy that would backup the product even if it failed.
>>2856177>yeah i spoke to the owner and seems like a standup guy that would backup the product even if it failedhe & his wife dosaw a post where the wife offered to send some fabric to patch up sleeves on a dude's anorak that he'd been wearing the hell out of in alaska for 5+years
