I want to have camping adventures like Rin chan, traveling with a tent and staying in camping places around southern germany and central europe as a whole, but I need to make a choiceEither I go the Rin route and buy a scooterlike motorbike or I buy an e-bikeOn one hand with the motorbike I get to go farther away and faster and have more carrying capacity, but with the e-bike I have full access to europe's large bike trail network and can travel by train with it when necessary. Also, thanks to the engine, hilly terrain isn't a problemHelp me make a choice
>>2854573>I want to have camping adventures like Rin chan, Then go and do it, you fag LARPer.Where are you going to charge the e-bike?How's the autonomy of the thing? I mean, if it does 25km on a charge it won't be very useful, will it?>with the e-bike I have full access to europe's large bike trail network As if the hordes of Indians on e-scooters delivering food or whatever weren't enough. Now we'll also have clueless LARPers.
>>2854573>like comic figureokay I hope you really want what you think you want>camping placescamp sites? why? that's stupid, I mean I never been to one I only tried once and got turned down for this and that legal reason, but AFAIK they just charge you money so you can stay in a stupid overcrowded place and have basic effekinating amenities>mtorbike or e-bikemotor motor motor, maybe try not to be LGBT? Besides ethic, moral and spiritual reasons to not be a motorist there are practical ones too: You don't run out of the foreign source of energy you depend on and many areas (especially in BW) are legally off limits to you if youre a motorist (I know I know... that psyop with convincing the wider public that MoFa / MoPed is not a motorvehicle when you make it electric).>farther and fastera bicycle will get you the furthest. Half way around the globe and back.>bike trail network, travel by trainjust stop the participation in LGBT and motorist conspiracy. I can tell you that mindset is probably a good indicator that outdoors isn't really for you.Get a bicycle. Pack a bag. Hit the road and have fun.T. Originally bavarian but always all over the place.
>>2854573you dumb piece of shit let your last thread die instead of answering so you are probably not human in some way so go fuck yourself.
Cute. You should do it
>>2854638This + keep a journal and give us a trip report when you're done
>>2854589>ethic, moral and spiritual reasons to not be a motoristlmao
>>2854585>25km on a chargeshalom
>>2854589>[angry self-hating faggot sounds]bikes are the faggot transportation of choice, wishcasting the inversion of this reality isn't going to make it happen.
>>2854701motorism is unironically for cripples, women, children, ill and otherwise degenerate people
>>2854759>respont to muh madeup majik word damit!!11yeah autistics are also degenerate
>>2854769point out the supposed 'magic word' that is allegedly used to bait (You).
>>2854778>n-n-n-no I'm the one trolling!!11kek.
>>2854589>>2854759do you honestly expect your tendies to show up in your mother's basement only using cuck bikes?
>>2854779>>2854780have fun being effeminate faggots stuck in the motorist inclusion zone while endangering others and the environment>muh tendiesenjoy suffering from your self imposed inflated demands in a positive feedback loop with your productivity
>>2854784hey lil retard, calm down, it's not our fault you picked special interests that clash super hard in the contemporary political spectrum.
>>2854787I guess the verdict is out OP:For your 'camping adventures' you are required to buy the big homo truck, you need 4WD and lots of power to compensate for and reinforce the weakness of the body and mind.You will then have to drive it along the cager inclusion zone to the parking lot, where you finally get to step out into nature for a small hike.It will save you from mentally arduous tasks like planning or ever having to fear lack of comfort, since you can just toss all your things that you'll never need in your big truck.Also be a good boy and don't forget to fill her up, need to keep that juice flowing. Neither taxes nor Putins and the Sheikhs income are going to just materialize out of thin air.Somehow OP incorporating such faggotry in his leisure activities is also going to magically produce tendies.Sadly many places will be legally off limits for OP with this mode of transportation, especially any forest in BW, part of the specific area OP wants to go. Since the local laws state that the forests are off limits to LGBT, unless the gaysled is like the one shown here because that's somehow different: >>2854780It must be the exhaust fumes. No other explanation for the absolute mental state of the motorhomo.
>>2854796just go back to redit son, they have whole sections dedicated to basement dwellers assmad at the freedom the engine gives to the functional human being.
>>2854800>the freedom
>>2854839lol, your concession is accepted, now go on back to r/fuckcars with the other gay kids.
>>2854846>>>/o/ hue hueretard, go back to huffing exhaust
>dude just cycle everywhere :)OK what about getting to the campsite that's say 80km+ outside the nearest city and has no lane, infrastructure or anything?>haha dude it doesn't matter just do it bro :)4chan is genuinely retarded indoor LARPers that don't live in reality
>>2855981you literally answered the questionand then spun up some fantasy where it's bot possiblehave fun in your fag box
>>2855995You literally don't cycle, if you did you'd know how impossible it is to do anything outside towns>oh nah brah i totally cycle 6 hours every day up and down mountainous terrain brah definitelyLARP
>>2854573remember that i to tradition for yuruanons to set a forrest on fire and make a thread about it. I recommend a fichtenplantage, those are cancer anyways and filled with resinous fuel.
>>2855996sounds like YOU are the one who don't cycle. because if you do you'd know how impossible it is to do anything INSIDE towns with all the cars and shit zipping aroundonce you got out though, 80km isn't even that hard. i once covered like 50km without even realizing it because now i got the freedom to zip at full speed all i want
>>2856008Sure anon sureIt's so easy to tell larpers on 4chan when you actually do the hobby
>>2856010if i post my photos of that trip will you post photos of you eating your shit?
bicycles are for children, and degenerates that want to molest them.
>>2856012>no proofs>no photosConcession: acceptedAlso unless you live where I do then the situation is differentYou tell me how I can cycle to a campsite 85km away from town, that's after I've somehow cycled into town
>>2856013MTB, gravel and trail riders are based, roadfags are the scum of the earth
>>2855996not 'every day' but yes, when I'm outing it is exactly what I doyou know, I have a life besides outing for leisurebut I commute 30 km etc. so it's not like I sit on my ass workdaysand the terrain here is pre-alpine and I often go there because it's nicebut thank you for your admiration, even if you have a weird way expressing it, through explaining how (You) can't see yourself doing it.Meanwhile I always think hikers are impressive. At least when they hike proper distances. You see, I don't have to carry my stuff on my back. I can load much more on the bicycle than someone could carry in a pack and it's easy to move it and I cover a days worth of hiking in an hour or two easily.But (You) probably don't hike. Like you don't cycle. You're the only one LARPing, which is probably how you arrive at the absurd idea that someone spent time fantasizing online. Seems lile a (You) thing. >>2856008Towns aren't that bad my dude. I go through one on my commute every day. Did the whole brakeless fixed fad back then and you learn fast to anticipate the results of the motorists braindamage. There will be a few injuries and the following encounters with the motorist tho.
>>2856010>'does' the hobby>never goes more than 100 km out of town on a dayKEK
This thread took a strange turn
>>2854573just get a car or motorcycle. anti motor fags often call our way of travel stressfull, whats stressfull about leaving work on friday and waking up next to some river in sweden saturday morning? i just got into my car and drove a few hours, the same time and effort with a bike and you wouldnt have left the municipality. and no its not expensive, cars can be had for 500€ and a couple of weeks roadtrippin norway, sweden, finland from south to north cost me about 1000€ in fuel. thats not expensive, people buy plane tickets for 5x that.
>>2856034it's not 'stressfull' if anything like that the opposite is the case.But it is wrong and effeminate.
>>2854573Not sure what model that one is, but i assume it's similar to the vespa scooter i used to drive daily. Which in that case, yes, it's more than capable for your purposes. I'm not sure about the electric models though, never tried one, but if you're gonna use it for an /out/ing personally I'm kinda wary about recharging itAlso just ignore the bikefags and carcucks ITT. The former are immature homosexuals and the latter are mongoloid subhumans. Scooters are the optimal transportation method of enlightened individuals
>>2856052in what world is it effiminate to drive a truck to to the top of a mountain? its effeminate to walk there, thats what grandmas do for sunday hikes, its manly af to drive there.
Let me guess, you *need* more?
>>2856055It is quite the opposite. There are many traits that are, in the collective conscious, associated with women. Weakness and low resilience for example.The automobile caters to those, ot caters to women.The person driving their relies on an ecternal source of power. They are either to weak to do it themselves and just give into the cycle where motorism will then cause further degeneration or they are too lazy or lack the emotional resilience to ever do something hard themselves.Automobiles cater to the needs of women, homosexuals, children, weak and ill, cripples and other degenerates and motorism creates a feedback loop and downward spiral. It breeds weak bodies, weak minds, thin skin and antisocial behavior.
>>2854573Consider what you want to do at the places you're camping at. Do you want to hike or visit villages? Then just get a car, far more comfortable and you can bring more stuff, plus you're independent of the weather. If you want to drive a motorbike, get one, but know that you can carry less and have to deal with the weather while on it. A real motorbike preferably, it's safer and allows you to drive on highways as well if you want to drive large distances quickly. If you want to drive a bike, get a bike (or an e-bike by all means). Just know you will spend a large amount of time getting from one place to the other on your bike, and the weather dependence is exacerabted.
>>2856154>collective consciousTHE UNENLIGHTENED MASSES
>>2856154there is nothing effiminate about driving a truck or 4x4. its not masculine, girls can do that, but its not feminine. you can rescue your sister stuck at her cabin, or our father stuck getting firewood, nothing feminine about that?
>dude i totally cycle 9001 km every single nanosecond with zero issues brah i'm just a sigma alpha haplogroup male
>>2856200>Dude nobody ever travelled 100km by bike in a day, it's humanly impossible, you cannot travel meaningful distances without motors
>>2856205>seething this hardI accept your concession
>>2856206Pots and kettles fatnon.
>>2856207Your concession was already accepted
>>2856200its possible to bike long distances, my grandpa and some mates decided they wanted to visit oslo, so they biked there. thats 500km on gravel road as it where in the 30s but they did it and they returned back.
>>2856210It's not the distances, it's the placeBrisbane has very little cycling infrastructure and I'm not going on the roads, so I'm fucked
>>2856210My boss travels up to 300km a day on his racing bike, but he's a fucking lunatic. For a moderately fit person, 100 flat km a day are reasonable and not too stressful.
>>2856211Germans constantly complain about cycling infrastructure (and it's nowhere near dutch levels or such) but outside the big cities you can usually find agricultural or forestry roads where noone will bother you.
>>2854573its not as nice as it seem, people are not nice at camping places, germams are really rude. they dont want to befrlend you they want to hate you. its a veird feeling. im ok with wanting to be left alone but dont make it thag clear?
>>2856213That's IN GERMANY, not here
>>2856215OP specified germany, didn't he? I am aware that low pop density countries don't have those roads. Makes me wonder whether that's half the reason american trails and parks are supposedly overcrowded, the normies can't just hike through their local landscape on car-free roads.
Get a car for practicality and a bike for fun
>>2856212>racing bikes.i hate them, you bike for a purpose, either to work out and then a racing bike aint doing you now good. or its to get places and racing bikes dont get you places.
>>2856218>racing bikes dont get you placesIf the places have tarmac they do.I don't drive them anymore since I drive a car myself and realized how much of a hassle going past them is, but you're substantially quicker getting across the land. Also when I was younger there was no satellite communication, so trying to find those little roads without cars was just impossible if you didn't know the area. So you would never leave the big roads anyway.
Get yerself a cuckvelo and you can drive everywhere on your own power in all conditions.It's not fast but at least you don't get wet when it rains.
>>2856274do they make this in a less dorky-looking models?also where the fuck are my cargo supposed to go in this thing?
>>2855981I'm a car guy but man, 80km is not a long bikeride its my average ride.
>>2856276You guys must live in very lucky areas, here it's fucking hell
>>2856199Also lets be real girls can't drive.
>>2856277Your just being a pussy, everytime I bike i have to ride 1-10km on the road to achieve freedom in the hills. One thing I will note however is everyone here complains about pickup truck drivers when in reality its women and cuckmen in small toyota yaris's who are incredibly afraid to dare to cross the double yellow to give space. Meanwhile I have literally NEVER had a driver of a pickup truck be within 5 feet of me driving on the side of the road they normally completely switch into the oncoming lane if the situation is appropriate.
>>2856275I reckon reading somewhere that you can buy the chassis without the cuckbox. You could fabricate something yourself. All these bicyclecars are going to look pretty gay, not sure if that will ever be any different.Also this one in particular has a bit of storage in the back. It can also tow a bicycle trailer.
>>2856280>it's fine bro just cycle on this bro stop being a pussyGet fucked
>>2856283Bro I live deep in rural canada every road I bicycle on looks exactly like that if not worse. Those are honestly generous paved shoulders it goes to gravel that is 1 feet wide at best one inch after the white lines here. pic related is the most popular road bicycling route near my town
>>2856284Yeah there's zero chance I'd trust cagers next to me on a road like that
>>2856285like I said previously every single pickup truck driver will literally wait and then move entirely into the other lane to pass. I do have to watch for crossover and compact drivers, who believe they will be ticketed for crossing double yellow to help a cyclist. I'm a reasonable person though so I immediately dismount and let people pass if more then one car is behind me and there is oncoming traffic.
>>2856285i biked to elementary school for 4 years along such a road with 80kmh speed limit. 5km each way. we even had classes in school to teach us kids good walking or biking practice along such a heavy trafficated road as that. lots of timber trucks, milk tankers, long haul transport that came over the mountains from sweden. one of the key thing we was told was ride against traffic. you are not a car or motorcycle, you cant keep up with the speed, you dont have mirrors.. ride against traffic and then you see cars approacing, they can see that you see them and you can move over if needed.
>>2856291Interesting i'm the CAD anon who is hurling adhoms at the guy who is afraid to bike on a road. Here its illegal to bike into traffic, you must bike with traffic as even the 20-30kph speed of a bicycle will save your life if your hit in the rear by someone doing 50-70kph it'll be a 20kph hit not a 100kph incident.
>>2856291>ride against trafficThis doesn't mean what I think it means, does it?
>>2856291I would much rather be a dork and add a mirror to my bike.
Yurushitter trannies are the cancer of this site and fuck mods for not banning them.They know their dogshit threads would die on their f/a/ggot board, so they come here, knowing it will stay alive thanks to /out/'s slower pace.Yurucuck threads are basically the cairns of /out/. An invasive out of place garbage, made by some fat fuck autist.
>>2854585You know the “bike” in e-bike is short for bicycle, right? You can still peddle it, retard
>>2854589What a tremendous faggot you are. I hate bike cucks as much as I hate cagies. The world is fantastic to experience in different modes.
>>2856682>You can still peddle it, retardIf you're going to pedal (yes, pedal, retard) the damn thing, you might as well save on weight and go with a non "e" bike.
>>2856653looks like someone is just mad that the ultra niche cgdct show about HIS hobby didn't take off
>>2856714It's you who rides in the cuckcage -> it is you who is homosexual.
>>2856715nah in his context he is "peddling" the ebike meme. As we all know ebikers never pedal more then enough to activate the motor.
>>2856739>decide I want to ride my bike in an area 300 miles from home>can do it in a weekendYeah, I'm thinking both is good.
>>2856778>Motor there>Use an irresponsible amount of energy because weak and lazy>Fill the war chest of various negroid despotes>Poison everyones air and accelerate climate change>Randomly hit people and injure them>Ruin the very area you seek to visit through car trafficWhy don't you just ride your bike instead?
>>2856811Bro haven't you realized that the CO2 cult shit is over now and you can all go home. Even bill gates stepped away from it now.
>>2856832Retard.
>>2856832 #It may be surprising to you but people exist who are not interested to 'belong to' or 'be part of' a group or any other hivemind BS.Also you're relatively stupid if you really fail to see how almost all data points towards antrophogenic climate change.In either case you're inconsiderate of others if you accept the possibility of hurting someone else directly - you probably use the euphemism 'accident'.And you're either stupid or invonsiderate again if you fail to see that motorvehicles emit not only CO2 but also noise, brake dust, HC, NOx, PM... which ultimately harms other people.Meanwhile you are lazy or degenerate enough to knowingly accept all those effects because you're too weak or too lazy and 'you got used to it and it was normalized before we knew all this' and you're again too lazy to change a habit so instead you rather deceive yourself. That's easier.Homosexual.
>>2856811>Why don't you just ride your bike instead?Because I have a job. Riding 300 miles takes time. Cycling is great and less reliance on personal vehicles is as well, but I haven't made it my special interest and will use it when it's practical. Since /out/ is a slow board I can only assume you'll seethe in this thread for months to come. Enjoy I guess.
>>2856832Just because anon buys into propaganda regarding personal use doesn't mean pollution isn't real.
