I think the Cracow-Częstochowa Uplands in Poland are a bit underrated outing place
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>>2854582>highest elevantion 480mboring, no thankshow are the carpathians, have you been there?
>>2854908I go to Carpathians or Sudetes every year which is less often than to Cracow-Częstochowa Uplands cause the Uplands are just 30 minutes of driving away from me while the closest part of Carpathians is over 2 hours away. I would say that if you want a challenging hike, every part of Carpathians will be better than the Uplands but only Tatra Mountains which are the highest part of Carpathians is really challenging. In terms of views only Tatra is better than the Uplands because the Uplands have lots of cool rocks and castles. Same with rock climbing, most of Carpathians aren't very rocky and Tatra is the only part of it that rock climbers love more than the Uplands. A small con of rock climbing in Tatra is that you need a climb registration in a shelter so they know where to find you if something goes wrong. Generally speaking Tatra is by far the coolest range in Poland but also the most crowded and nearby hotels are expensive.There are also Sudetes but I don't wanna pretend to be a sudete expert cause I've never been to Śnieżnik Massif or Rudawy Janowickie which seem pretty cool but I've been to some parts of Sudetes and Table Mountains are likely the most beautiful mountains in Poland other than Tatra cause they have cooler rock formations than the Uplands.Pic is photos I made in Carpathians this year. The top one is from Gorce Mountains (you can see Tatra far away) and the bottom one is from Tatra Mountains.
>>2854924thanks. i asked because i've been thinking of doing a trip to some of the cheaper, less crowded mountain ranges in europe (comparing to the alps), and the Tatra mountains looked really good. but the other options is the pyrenees which i think are just better, and they are much closer to me and there's still so much i would like to do there that it's hard to justify crossing half of europe by planeor those uplands, i'm sure i would have a great time there but again, doesn't make sense to go having many other options closer to me
>>2854925I've heard the Pirenees are like Tatra but bigger, better and more expensive. Also, if you don't like crowds, Slovakian Tatra would be better. Unfortunately climbing the highest peaks in Slovakian Tatra either requires a guide or a rock climbing loicence, both of which cost quite a lot. Personally I'm planning to go to Austria cause it has higher mountains than Poland and (hopefully) isn't as expensive as Switzerland.
>>2854924Beautiful, thanks for the post. My ancestors come from the Sudetenland. I want to travel there this year, the Table Mountains look interesting too.
>>2854928>I'm planning to go to Austriame too, the area around Vent looks amazing
>>2854582Absolute tourist bait. You can't hear your thoughts over people taking selfies and their kids running around screaming, and everything costs as if it was next to the sea and the mountains at the same time.
>>2856556I know a few places with barely any tourists in Częstochowa alone. I didn't see a single human being on Mount Prędziszów but I wouldn't recommend it because of industrial smell. Very few go to mount Osson and nobody goes east of it. Right riverbank of Warta from "Pont de Srebrna" to Mount Przeprośna, including Jaś i Małgosia rocks were completely empty too, except for one guy riding his dirt bike on Mount Przeprośna. It's not for faint hearted because you need to cross this "bridge" to find yourself on the northern slope of Mount Przeprośna.
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