You know those threads we have every week about dropping everything and living alone in the woods? Almost in a ascetic manner without internet and no job. Why? What causes it? To me it seems to be wanting an escape of urban life, the responsibilities and never-ending noise, the internet that has been utterly destroyed, to escape corporatism or something along those lines. To utterly reject consumerism and decadence. Now in that sense the desire for that has been noted to have existed since roman times from what i have read. To simpler times, to rural life before urbanization. A romantization of perhaps a gilded past. Don't get me wrong, rural life is superior to urban life but it too has its disadvantages. Especially now when the majority lives in the city leaving only old people out in the countryside rather than the bustling village 100 years ago. The warmth of the village is gone in most places or dying out as is. If you can't find contentness in the now then you won't find contentness in a log cabin in the middle of Alaska.
It is caused by a complete lack of purpose and we really don't need another thread talking about it.
>hur dur I'm not the guy who posted the last 3 wanting to drop out of college and live in the woods threads. But why does some genius like that come to his conclusions?I genuinely hope you get run over by a bus tomorrow. You are what is wrong with the world.
>>2854860Jerking off in a cabin won't give you purpose unless you already had it.
>>2854864I have a home already I just hike. I can disagree with you weird pseudo psychiatry and the use of this board as your emotional outlet without being the people you hate. For many people being put in a situation that endangers their life is all they need to remember the purpose.
>If you can't find contentness in the now then you won't find contentness in a log cabin in the middle of Alaska.I agree with this. people being unhappy and wanting to quit society and move into the middle of no where is more of a reflection on the person than the society. Some people are just hard wired to complain and be miserable. we could do better but overall the amount of bitching and complaining about living the best humans have ever lived is ridiculous.>cant afford a new iphone>get food stamps for freemeanwhile yesteryear>dying of polio>life expectancy 50s>working 12 hour shifts 7 days a week at a lumber mill>spotty indoor plumbing or AC for the working class
The burden of social expectations and having to constantly be around people that we don't like. Modern life is also overly complicated while we are animals at the end of the day. If you refuse to learn these complicated things, you are shunned.Most early christian hermits did not even want to live amongst peasants because even village life was/is always about making the most money possible to secure a wife and breed.Life in society is a rat race doubled with a crab bucket and Our Benefactors want us to chase money so they can tax our sweat and blood until we're old and served our purposeOn top of that, the human mind was not made for modern life. We need daily exercise, the closeness to nature, sleep based around natural light sources. Modern lifestyle in a big city is a constant assault to your psycheIt's good that some people have the desire to quit society. If everyone was fine with living in the matrix, it would accelerate the end of humanity, which is looming fast already
>>2854897>you should be grateful to eat this shit, it could have corn in it!
That's my plan when I buy land so I can build a Tedshack on it. As a loner modern soiciety has nothing to offer me, modern life is high-tech serfdom and pointless consumption with ever declining living standards. I just want to live a simple self-sufficient life with as little trinkets and gadgets as possible and a place to call home.
>>2854970This was my plan but because of just the way my countries economy works I did the calculation and found out financially it is easier to do it in the opposite direction. I bought the absolute bottom of the market getting the smallest mortgage possible then renovated the whole place and I got lucky over the years the neighbourhood got better. Now I can rent it out for a bit over 50% of the mortgage repayments and set myself up a basecamp where no one will ever find me.
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>>2854860Lol. Modern society breeds purposelessness. Go read Industrial Society and Its Future and come back to me. Finding "purpose" feels like escapism versus striving to live close to the way we have lived for the vast majority of our species existence. Leaving something one deems bad for something one deems good is not escaping, it is seeking freedom.
I mean you seem to have summed it up pretty nicely in your post. If you are running from problems then yes you probably shouldn't go to a cabin in the woods, but if you are running from society itself, then where else is there to go?
>>2855051I've read it. Industrial society is the shit one he barely touches the issue in that. I dont believe you have actually read it because you suggested that one instead of anti tech revolution. Ted himself said you should read anti tech first. It's truly pathetic to be this type of poser but I am willing to believe you are sincere if you can explain why you suggested industrial society over anti tech rev?
>>2855064I have read both, as well as technological slavery. I don't recall him stating that, I must be misremembering. I feel it is a good introduction to the beliefs he states, do you disagree? It touches a bit on multiple problems caused by modernity that impact the human psyche, which from my viewpoint would be relevant to this thread.Sorry if my post is not the normal 4chan post, this is my first time posting here.
>>2855070I do disagree. Although of course I agree with the premise that current modern society, more specifically western society erodes meaning but I feel that is connected to the way it erodes spirituality which leads us into Nietzsche. Especially with 2nd generation migrants you see both in islam and buddhist communities the kids are religious only in title they dont read or follow it, why would they when society gives them all they need.Industrial Society goes straight into politics and his analysis of political thought and the reasons behind it are his weakest arguments which can immediately turn people off his writing. The surrogate activities being interpreted into nihilistic spiralling is a bad interpretation. Those that long to walk off into the mountains or leave society are not wrong for feeling that. Personally I believe that we are supposed to face possible death uncommonly, the guard rails of society and the protection it grants destroy meaning.
>>2854861omigosh bus? chris mcandles reference???
>>2854860You're a retard and your 50 IQ take is silly, at best.Purpose or lack of it, has absolutely nothing to do with it. Purpose is an illusion imprinted onto your subconscious so your brain could justify suffering.This is about people waking up that to the idea that they are completely and utterly dependant on an unnatural system that hates them and treats them like cattle.When you go out into the woods, the purpose does not change or get added, purpose does not change as it is irrelevant to begin with.What changes is the person taking back control and being less dependent on tptb.
>>2855064https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPc16mFuspU
>>2854897Ted's criticism is on industrial society so any time in history with a "lumber mill" and shiftwork is post industrialization.
What causes social cohesion?You, (OP), have a healthy idea of a norm, where humans are part of a group, after being born into it. Members of the group accept its general beliefs, adopt its mannerisms, identify with it and glorify it without objective reasons to do so. Social instinct, bias, impressionability and herd mentality in humans are pronounced enough to make it hard, almost impossible for a group to fail at projecting cohesion within itself. It begs the question how dysfunctional society, or a group, must be for it to reach a point where all the above feels non-existent or irrelevant to individual members.I believe this is that 'cause' you're asking about.Not everyone experiencing this will wish or even decide to innawoods and wizard. Once those things are gone, that normally make the individual consider those ideas absurd and make the chance of anyone seriously considering that virtually zero, the disillusioned individual might find all sorts of formerly unthinkable delineations equally appealing, after all the group has lost its appeal. It is then merely a question of the individuals character, experiences liking and means how their alternative to life in the group might look like. Some remain shut in at home. Others are out and about but at best superficially interact. Others again seek the distance, or their demise. Drugs and what not.The question should be: Why do people not choose their group and it's traditions, when people are programmed to exactly that? Also >>>/pol/
