Hello /out/ serious (though retarded) thread. I won't find rest until I've hunted, killed, skinned, cut up and put in glass jars a 120+ pounds wild boar.Problem is, my country's admin is retarded (even moreso than I) and I still don't have my hunting license, so no heavy firepower for me.Now, how do I prepare physically and mentally to be up to the task ? I haven't found any serious advice and my dad, who's a hunter, told me that was a retarded idea. I'm sure there has to be a way though, please help.
>>2855678In France we have something called "vénerie" which is basically just following an animal until exhaustion and then just slicing its throat open. Even tho we use dogs for keeping the track, some forest gnomes are able to track some animals without the dogs but it's very hard to keep the track fast enough. Also just buy a crossbow you dumb fuck
>>2855680(français mais anglais pour compréhension) Isn't "la grande vénerie" the whole thing with horses and packs of dogs etc..? So I would need to be very physically fit and have good knowledge of tracks to run after a boar until it tires, I see. I have a hunting dog too but I would FOR SURE need to keep it on a leash near hogs or it would get gutted. Also wouldn't the boar just charge me if I tried to make it run ? that was my first thought, that if I tried to approach a boar it would most likely try to gore me and I would need to plan around that. Lastly I'm pretty sure crossbows or even bows are restricted and I would need a loicense anyway
>>2855678You're gonna get yourself killed by a boar or thrown into prison for poaching.Bow hunting is a thing. Hunting boars with spears was done historically, but it was considered dangerous and a proof of courage (and it was done in groups, not alone).
>>2855683Yeah I know boars are dangerous I would need to plan around that. Also yeah to avoid poaching and getting caught I would not only need to not use a bow or rifle, but avoid any trapping or grain baiting, so that it could reasonably be seen as self-defense against a wild animal. I know this isn't something easy, and it's most likely not worth it, but if there is a way I want to find it. I thought about taking the hog by surprise (although I would first need to learn how to do that) then stick it with a spear or similar, even using some mail gloves to avoid getting cut if I had to jump it, or even jury-rigging a weighted net to hopefully immobilize it.I know I should just wait until I finally get my license and do the whole thing legit, but I constantly feel trapped and unable to act because of dumb rules and reasons
>>2855682>if I tried to approach a boar it would most likely try to gore me and I would need to plan around that.can't you just sit on a tree and pelt it with broadheads or something? that way the more energy it spends trying to get you, the faster it's going to tire/bleed out>I'm pretty sure crossbows or even bows are restrictedjesus fucking christ man how are your brain this cucked? it's a fucking bow. fucking spearchuckers in africa can make them from some branches they found lying around. and if you have broadheads the bow doesn't even need to be that powerful
>>2855685>sit on a treeI don't think that's how boars work. To my knowledge you sit on a tree and wait when you have lethal-force-on-a-stick with you, that way any boar-thing that comes close enough gets BOOM downed. You only climb a tree to escape the boar, not after intentionnally angering it to kill it.>it's a fucking bowTrue, I could probably even make it myself if what you say is true, but do you think the game warden would be any kinder if he caught me with a bow instead of a gun ? It needs to be not-poaching, or really really fucking smart poaching. My dad's a hunter we have rifles at home that's not the problem, the loicense is
Jeez. The best thing about your plan is that you will probably fail to get a boar, so you will only get a slap on the wrist for attempted poaching if someone catches you.>I constantly feel trapped and unable to act because of dumb rules and reasonsSmoke some weed and buy a hooker, or whatever is mildly illegal in france.
>>2855688Actually, come to germany, both are legal here.
>>2855688haha lmao, realistic desu. I mean if it's really impossible to hunt without a bow/rifle, it would at least give me experience in outdoorsing and tracking, some sort of "dry hunting" until I get my license (aim for the stars land on the moon dype deal). What would you suggest in that (more reasonable) case ?Also yeah I should've had my pre-license since early november, I've already been waiting 8 months for that shit, and now I need to wait again
>>2855690You can just sit or walkd around outside at night or wait in the hunting stands and watch whether you can see some game.
>>2855694Okay good idea. At night specifically ? I think boar hunting is done during the day where I live. But yeah I'll try that, walk around and look for game
>>2855695... I don't actually know enough about hunting to tell you.
>>2855678Your father is right,thats really retarded.
>>2855700Okay, noted. Then assuming it's too retarded to put into practice, how would you "not-hunt" a wild boar ? Do everything a hunt requires, but chicken out at the last second (when you would normally shoot).Do you know resources to hone outdoorsmanship and hunting ability beyond being a good shot ?
>>2855702The most common ways to hunt boar I know are-Put out some maize or similar bait, wait until the boar arrives from a stand or blind, shoot it-Stand around on stands or the ground, have drivers startle the boar so they run around, shoot them as they pass by
>>2855678My buddy hunts boars with a couple dogs and a Bowie knife.
>>2855718and a 50 cal
>>2855718True, it's just very dangerous for the dogs
>>2855719Nope.>>2855722Who cares. Theyre literally rented.
>>2855735They are ? It's just not sustainable is all. If I am going to have a dog injured or even dead all for a single boar I'd rather blast that mf to kingdom come
>>2855680This is how we have hunted for 1000s of years. Predatory Pursuit. It is why our niche is endurance and adaptability. It's why we have scar tissue and sweat glands. If you want a real world example look up the baboon men. Basically, just chase it till it keels over and get ready for a fight OP.
>>2855789Yeah this sounds reasonable, any form of hog hunting that doesn't involve ranged weaponry works by tiring the beast first from what I've seen. This sounds based as fuck too and the upside is that even if I don't get a boar I'll practice tracking and running in nature. I'll need a lot of training though that's for sure
>>2855790Yeah I saw a guy on /fit/ claim he ran down a doe through dunes over 3 hours. Dunno how that works on hawgs
Even if you were to keep the pace with a hog, it would just go in inaccessible areas like thorny bushes and brambles or ravines You also need to carry a spear around in order to kill it from safe distanceSo yeah not realistic and usually done in groups. Or you could throw the spear from a tree if you can hide and wait for hours
>>2855824very true, they rest and hide in hidden places behind bush walls and thickets so you'd need to take that into consideration. when spooking one and tracking it
>>2855678You're pretending every boar that dies during a hunt dies from rapid onset lead poisoning. It is not the case.
>>2855828also spears are multifunctional, you know? Could even go fishing if there was anything of good size around.
>>2855718Also this guy:Typical US American confusing feral domestic pigs with wild boars.
>>2855828That shit looks gnarly. Fucking titan sized syringe, I need to know more. Whether or not you have first-hand experience with that, what can you tell me about what you're referencing ?
>>2855829A fucking buck in the chest with that ?? Holy hell, what in the. Tell us more, man
>>2855830If anything, boars would be easier because they're smaller ? Idk man say what you have to say I'm interested. I've seen those americans chasing down what you call "feral pigs" with their dogs, how's that different to boars ?
>>2855837>how's that different to boars ?Boars have tusks and like to rip open the bellies of belligerents. Youre not going to chase a boar. Its going to chase you.
>>2855835This is very normal, at least in parts of europe. I'm german, we call it 'Saufeder', it is a spear that in modern times is two parts:You get a 'knife' type of implement and the pole to affix it to.I don't know the exact distribution but I know for sure that, like us, swedes, durvh and austrians use it.Not all wild game is legal to be taken by a spear in germany. Now while you can do this for sport, the most common mode of employment and use is where a Boar is grounded by the dogs or has a ill placed shot and shooting it wouldn't be a good idea, because of the dogs, because of the digs hearing, beacuse of ricochet, etc.But it's perfectly legal to stalk the boar like that for sport.>>2855836If you only knew how fucking dumb deer are. >>2855837>>2855838I've seen many videos on YT, of US Americans showing their 'boar' in texas and similar places. It's unironically pigs. They are featherweights and have no weapons. There's a reason why you NEED protective vests for the dogs before setting them on the boar. It's the same reason why some people here carry pole arms even to finish a boar that is on it's way out. You don't want to be closer than an arms length.A friend of mine had one 'come back to life' in the trunk. Yeah I know... He escaped the car and locked it, guns inside. The thing trashed the entire car. Police came and shot it through the window. The car was done for anyways.
>>2855838Yeah, that's the more common way to view boars in France too. But from what I've seen they can be quite skittish, scattering at the first gunshot or even arrow hit. Maybe it depends on the situation ? Sometimes they book it and some others they prefer to stand and fight ?Anyway, all the more reason to be careful and ready for anything when you do decide to track and hunt boars
>>2855839Yes, I looked it up and saw several sites selling such products. Very interesting to see that it is a real practical tool and weapon, I'll need to look into it. Also yeah I kinda know deers are dumb, but from the outside they seem very alert, quick and out-of-reach. Maybe once you get to know them it's not that big of a deal and you can exploit their weaknesses.Regarding american pigs, I guess I'll have to pay more attention next time I see those on camera, however, what do you call "featherweight" ? Are boars in central northern Europe really that big ? I think in France they go from ~70 to 150kg+ maybe ? I'm not sure. But what kind of beast actually requires full on hunts with dogs to ground it then finish it off with a spear of all things ? How common is the regular "approach then shoot once in range" and mainly "corral the hogs to a line of shooters who wait and kill those who come across" way of hunting?Also yeeeesh, imagine having a full sized dying boar wake up in your trunk, fucking hell.
>>2855842Poor Matthias Meier here just wanted the fox' red coat. Unlucky for him the boar said no. Many such cases. Luckily it wasn't big. Now that it's too late someone gifts him protective trousers, KEK.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KnxevuGMHw
>>2855845If it's over 100 kg I'd honestly choose to shoot over a knife or spear. You can't compare it with a 100 kg gymbro really. Regarding attacks: Just check YT. Especially during mating and on driven hunts they like to attack. Here they have learned how driven hunts work so they hide in some thicket and wait for everyone to pass. The problem starts when they feel or know that their cover is blown. Some try running, some come at the next best guy. Always have cut proof gear for dogs and men. Techniques? It's taught in the hunting course here, example:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFQjinfl0LEHe basically explains open the cavity and twist. Let blood out and air in. The newer ones like mine don't need twisting, they're low tech hog inflators.If you can't run you got to know how to shoot, if you can neither run nor shoot, well things get tight... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3P2P0SxSlI
>>2855845>Also yeah I kinda know deers are dumbForgot: That reminds me of recently, only a month or so ago, I go to sleep, I can hear the deer coughing nearby. Hours later in the middle of the night I am woken up in an alarmed state. I can hear the deer flee. Took me a second to figure: Those fucks were like 'let's check this dude over there out', came round to check, 'yeap, thats a human sleeping... OH FUCK HUMAN IM OUTTA HERE' like honestly...
>>2855846Yeah okay boars should not be messed with, first become familiar with the animal before trying to do anything around it. Definitely a good reminder to stay careful >>2855847I see I see. Hypothetically speaking I wouldn't even go after a big boar alone because I would not even be able to carry it back. I watched the video, very interesting.One thing I learnec is that I will need to spend a lot more time in nature and in proximity to these animals to become more fit and familiar with them if I want to successfully bring one home.>>2855851Haha that's hilarious yeah definitely a strange way of thinking, same, would need a lot of exposure and studying to know them better
>>2855678whats keeping you from getting the loicense? anyways, if someone catches you poaching and reports you, you will likely go on a naughty list that bars you from ever being allowed to keep and use firearms. go grab a camera and try to get pig pics. if you manage to get good shots with a camera, you would have had the opportunity to bag it. also why not ask your dad to teach you more? you can tag along without a gun and learn.
>>2856002Oh yeeah that's a good idea for training, motivation. I'll need lot's anyway whether I want to use a firearm or not. And yeah my dad doesn't hunt big game so that's something I'm gonna learn on my own, and with the community mostly
>>2856005That's me bruh. That's who I am
