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Have any of you seen bigfoot?
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I am bigfoot.
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>>2855774
Maybe the REAL bigfoot was the friends we made along the way.
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So weird that once everyone had a camerphone in their pocket, trail cams livestreaming to the internet and drones with infrared cameras that can spot squirrels in trees, suddenly Bigfoot sightings stopped.....
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>>2855773
no but i saw your mom which was way bigger and scarier
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>>2855773
I've seen tracks of a humanoid that were 1 foot wide, and 2.5 feet long near some creeks in a location I will not divulge about 10 years ago.
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>bigfoot

thats just trailer trash folklore
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>>2855860
Objectively incorrect.
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>>2855811
cool story bro
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>>2855773
i saw a giant white thing on the Apalachian trail ,fastest shit i have ever seen fucking blitzed about 100 yards in front of my tent, scanned across my field of vision in about 10 seconds. I couldn't even whip out my phone before i could process what had just happened. I didn't want to think about it cause i had to sleep and just did 25 miles and that thing would fuck me up anyways. It was insanely loud maybe it was a big deer it was the evening so it was getting kind of dark and i was a bit delirious after going all day. It was in Pennsylvania near Port Clinton if anyone knows of anything
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> everybody now has a camera and video recorder literally in their pocket
> sightings of Bigfoot (and UFOs) suddenly stop

Bigfoot is a hoax. If Bigfoot were real, there would need to be enough of them running around and breeding to continue the species and if that were the case, we'd have shot/captured Bigfoots way back in the 1800s during the westward expansion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_population
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>>2855773
Yes, pretty much everyone has seen the stills from the PG film by now.
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>>2856380
>hoax
The evidence suggests the opposite.
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>>2856383
>evidence

There is none.
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>>2856392
>footprints
>hair samples
>film footage
>historical accounts
>anecdotes
Yes there is. You just have taken your own disbelief as evidence, which it is not.
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>>2856423
>footprints
Zero casts have been anatomically correct.
>hair samples
All proven to be of known animals (deer, bear etc) when studied by the FBI
>film footage
Lol. Like Patterson-Gimlin?
>historical accounts
Fairy tales aren't historical evidence
>anecdote
>noun
>an account regarded as unreliable or hearsay.
Atleast you got one right.
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The majority of the Bigfoot population was annihilated in the Mount St. Helens eruption. After that they dropped too far below replacement and went extinct. Check em.
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>>2856437
Mt. St. Helen's eruption was 1980.

We broke the sound barrier in 1947.
We mapped the Marianas Trench (deepest part of the ocean) in 1951.
We walked on the moon in 1969.
We launched the Voyager probes in 1977 that did flybys of half the planets in our solar system.

But we never found hair or bones of a 300 pound animal living in the forest 50 miles from Portland (population 366,383 in 1980) and 100 miles from Seattle (population 493,846 in 1980) ?!
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>>2855773
No but I saw a spirit animal
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>>2856433
>Zero casts have been anatomically correct.
For a human. Whatever you think of him, Jeff Meldrum at least put the work in.
https://footprints.iri.isu.edu/
>>2856522
The believer explanation is that they eat or bury their dead.
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>>2856940
Search option
>Bigfoot
Zero results found.

This is a chimpanzee cast
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>>2856960
This is gorilla cast
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>>2856961
This is an official "bigfoot" cast from the 1982 sighting.

Every bigfoot cast is a fucking joke. Made by liars who dont have a zoology degree or even studied biology.
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>>2856962
Here's Patterson with casts from 1967.
Its amazing that he was filming a bigfoot documentary and had a camera the only time he ever saw a bigfoot (after years of paid lectures on bigfoot) and also amazing he had 100 pounds of plaster back at his campsite that he brought in on horseback.

I can blog post about the Patterson-Gimlin hoax for days.
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>>2856963
Ok
This is day 1
Get started
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>>2856963
why do so many say it would've been impossible to design such a suit and mask at the time? especially knowing it would be filmed on a home camera from quite a distance.
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>>2856960

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKUnQec6_yQ
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>>2856972
Why don't you prove them wrong?
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>>2856983
make a fursuit and cheap halloween store mask? why couldn't they do that back then?
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>>2856988
Yes. Do you think the people who say it's impossible are lying?
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>>2856989
yea, i do. i don't see what's so impressive about the suit.
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>>2856992
So make a superior one.
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Everyone is walking around with a HD video camera in their pocket for at least 10 years now. But we don't have a single good video of a Sasquatch.
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>>2856970
Let's first discuss who Patterson was.
He had written books and charged people for.seminars on bigfoot.
He had never seen a bigfoot or even tracks. All of his "information" was from interviewing people who claimed to have seen bigfoot or even random people that he literally met at bars who had the "my brother knows this guy that saw..." bullshit tales.
The most famous bigfoot "incident" that he often quoted and based much of his work on was an event at a construction site with crushed 55 gallon drums and foot prints. That was later proved to be a hoax when the man who did it confessed it was just a joke to screw with a new co-worker.
He was completely obsessed with bigfoot and it had taken over his life to the point he was facing bankruptcy because he spent his time on it instead of having a real job.

Now that that's out of the way, let's talk about the specific events leading upto and directly after the famous film.
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>>2857126
Theres many aspects to the filming so ill try to breakout down and stay somewhat in a linear time frame.

Patterson and Gimlin were working on a "reenactment" film starring our friend, bigfoot, complete with native american costumes (and one would assume a bigfoot costume, but Patterson and Gimlin always denied that).
On the Friday that the film SUPOSEDLY was recorded (we'll get back to that), they had gone camping to scout filming locations.
The camera and Patterson's horse were rented.
The original film has been lost, everything we have now are incomplete copies.
The beginning of the film was several minutes of long distance shots of clouds and ridgelines.
The owner of the camera actual sued Patterson because he had it for MONTHS and it was overdue to be returned.

It was "amazing luck" that the one time Patterson actually saw a bigfoot he had an expensive, rented camera with him.
It was also absolutely awesome that he had a hundred pounds of plaster back in camp to make molds of the foot prints.
Although it does seem extremely odd that he had this "creature" on film but never thought to measure a tree that it walked by, or even perhaps have his friend Gimlon that was with him stand next to the tree to have a reference scale for the size of the bigfoot.
This was a "professional bigfoot hunter" but he neither of them thought of it.
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>>2857131
Now things get a little interesting.
>official story
Patterson and Gimlin got their horses loaded up and left the mountains around 5pm on a friday.
When Patterson got home, he called his brother-in-law and gave him the film and told him to go have it developed.
Patterson showed the film to the press on Monday.

An interesting note is that there was only 1 photo lab within 500 miles that could develop that film.
They closed at 5pm and were nit open on the weekend.
When asked "where was the film deceloped", the answer was "I forgot".

So Patterson finally had bigfoot on film. To him that film was the most valuable object in the world. So he handed it off to someone else and expected a random developer to take care of it.
Now maybe his brother-in-law was an amazing guy- but imagine dropping off a Picasso painting at Mailboxes & More and having them pack it and ship it to a museum...
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>>2857134
Patterson and Gimlin went back to camp after the sighting to retrieve the plaster.
From their own accounts they returned several times.
When others asked to be taken to the location, they suddenly "couldnt find it".

One other notable detail is that the bigfoot in the film is a female. It has large breasts.
This is interesting because Patterson was obsessed with the idea of a female bigfoot.
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>>2857135
Now let's break this down.

>filmed on a Friday.
This has been proven to be impossible because the film could not have been developed in time to be shown to the press on Monday afternoon.
Therefore the film was recorded on a previous date and both Patterson, Gimlin and the brother-in-law lied.

Gimlin was over 6 feet tall.
The height of the bigfoot in the film is estimated to be just over 6 feet.
Its believed that a female bigfoot would be smaller than a male.
Gimlin is not seen on film during the bigfoot encounter even though he was only a few feet away and had pulled out his rifle. Patterson apparently did not think thay was worthy of filming, nor was photographic evidence of the footprints that were created just moments before.
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>>2856992
Patty's muscles move in a way that would require a very advanced suit
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>>2856983
Patterson-Gimlin film was 1967
Planet of the Apes was released in 1968, filing began on May 21, 1967, and wrapped on August 10.

When the Patterson-Gimlin film was shown, this costume from Planet of the Apes existed
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>>2857139
Bullshit.
The film quality is garbage for starters.
Secondly, her tits dont even flinch.
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>>2857139
This is a female gorilla.
Notice there the lack of hair on her breasts (unlike the costume in the Patterson-Gimlin film)
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>>2857143
exactly
-it's a suit with fur on it
-just change the face a little
-cover the face with hair to obscure it
-claim it's female cause you can't get someone who's 8 foot
-film it with a shitty 1967 camera
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>>2857146
Okay? Bigfoot is not a gorilla?
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>>2857152
Nothing in the hominid family has hair on breasts.
Patterson was a hick with no zoology training and thats why his costume and the footprints are not accurate.
Here's a Bonobo.
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>>2857161
I want to believe, but the pre-sighting sketches are pretty damning.
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>>2857201
Bob was also familiar enough with the 1955 William Roe encounter and sketch to include it in the Bigfoot book he coincidentally published the year before his own Bigfoot sighting.
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>>2856380
whoa folks we have proof bigfoot exists
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>>2857136
So lets recap:

Patterson had the camera for a couple months.
He claims he only used it on one outing.
They planned to produce a "re-enactment bigfoot documentary" with costumed actors.
Patterson was facing bankruptcy.
They got caught lying about when the film was recorded.

There's other elements but let's focus on these points.
Now let's make some educated guesses of what actually happened.

>Patterson and Gimlin run a screen test to see how the bigfoot costume looks on film (with Gimlin in the costume).
>Patterson gets the film developed and upon reviewing it thinks "wow, this looks real".
>now Patterson gets an idea of staging a hoax to reinvigorate public interest in bigfoot, partially to save his financial situation.

I honestly think Patterson believed bigfoot was real and given enough time and money he would eventually find one thus his hoax wouldnt matter in the end.
The simple issue of when the film was actually developed proves the encounter did not happen as they claimed. So why lie if it happened a week or a month earlier?
Because Patterson thought public disclosure would be suspect unless it was immediate.
But now everything took time to stage.
They had to develop the film.
Then Patterson got the idea of a hoax.
Had to convince Gimlin to go along with it.
Had to have this verifiable excursion into the mountains (rented horse).
Had to have fair weather that matched the previously recorded film.
Had to make foot print casts.
>this is why the camera was overdue for return.

Thw story falls apart when all the facts are laid out.
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>>2857143
My bad.
This was from the opening sequence of 2001: A Space Odyssey (also released in 1968).
Filming of actors ended in September of 1967.
>sorry for the confusion, ive used both movies in the past to highlight the bullshit claim of "cant make a costume like that in 1967".
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>>2857236
Here's a Planet of the Apes (1968) costume.
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>>2857126
>proved to be a hoax
You take a "confession" as proof, do you?
I don't think you are being intellectually honest in this discussion. I think you are taking your own preconceptions and disbelief as proof.
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>>2857145
Without producing a suit that replicates, or surpasses the PG film, you are just spouting conspiracy theory nonsense.
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>>2857268
>Without producing a suit that replicates, or surpasses the PG film
Already did.
>>2857143
That's the actor on break who was filmed for this scene
>>2857236
It was even made the same year as the Patterson-Gimlin suit so you can"t even say it was "modern techniques" or some bullshit.
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>>2857267
Tell me where the Patterson-Gimlin film was developed.
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>>2857267
>intellectually honest
The devil is in the details (pic).

Everything ive posted up to this point has been from memory because I found the topic fascinating and actually researched and read as much as I could about the "encounter" long ago.
Im a California native and have had many strange encounters with wildlife over the decades, all of which can be explained once the adrenaline rush has subsided.
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>>2856940
They'd have to bury their dead very deep to prevent scavenger animals from digging them up (this is why humans bury 6 feet deep), and that sort of digging through hard-packed soil, clay, roots, etc. cannot be done without tools.
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>>2857139
Like the oversized hollow ass that doesn't move at all?
>>2856380
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>>2855773
No just a man bear pig.
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>>2855786
That's cause Bigfoot knows where the cameras are, you dope.
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I just think the legend is cool. I think dorks that fight tooth and nail to convince others it is real are lamer than people that believe in something so harmless.
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>>2857457
*isn't, if that weren't obvious
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>>2857457
What would you think of a 25 yearold who believes Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy are real?
Or that Mermaids exist and when they dry out on land their tail magically turns into legs?
Tales of Leprechauns are older than bigfoot- but nobody has ever found a midget guarding a pot of gold hidden in a tree stump.
People who believe in bigfoot are living in a fantasy world and that is detrimental to society.

Its a novel slice of folklore, like Paul Bunyan and Babe his big blue ox. But it belongs on the shelf next to Grimm's Fairytales, not Scientific America.
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>>2857520
Wait until you find out about religion
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>>2857520
I'd probably laugh and move on with my day.
>that is detrimental to society
I really don't think it is. There are bigger fish to fry as far as retarded beliefs, in my opinion.
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>>2857520
There are people with these and even wackier beliefs delivering your mail and running multi-million-dollar corporations.
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>>2857547
wait until you graduate middle school
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>>2857579
....and they are allowed to vote.
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>>2857296
I really wanted to give you grief about your blog but found it pretty interesting. Thanks for taking the time to write it up.

>>2857520
> People who believe in bigfoot are living in a fantasy world and that is detrimental to society.
Agreed but there’s also nothing wrong with going along with the fun at times. The film always looked fake to me but I will swear they are real because it’s fun. I would say the same about Santa, leprechauns, and the Loch Ness monster. However, I’m not going to spend all my money tracking down hair that stinks in the forest.
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>>2856380
>this guy thinks Bigfoot is just a gorilla running around North America and we'd catch one by now
>Bigfoot is an inter-dimensional entity that can't be caught, can go invisible.
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I'd consider myself a skeptic. When I was in high school a friend and I had a pretty strange encounter on 2 separate occasions on my family's land in rural GA. I asked around and turned out quite a few people in that same area (it was a community in a valley between two hilly areas) had experienced some weird things as well. Because I was a nerd and had a lot of time on my hands I ended up diving into research and interviewing people. In the small community of maybe....50 people or so, these were the reports I heard:
>tree knocks in the night
>whistles, and baby crying sounds at night
>tree structures found in 2 areas
>one guy was chased from his tree stand to his truck at dusk
>one guy was truck hunting at night and had something slam into his truck hard enough to shake it side to side, but never saw what did it
>yellow eye shine at the edge of woods
>1 (and only 1) person reported an actual sighting but they sincerely confessed it could've been a hunter in brown coveralls

This was all around the 2005(ish) timeline. I poked around a few of the hunting areas the reports came from and never found anything substantial. I'm talking solo hiking for hours on end during both daylight and dark. The only weird personal experience I had was definitely hearing tree knocks at night, but there's literally no way to say what caused them. I also saw one of the tree structures myself and it was compelling, but lack of any real physical evidence left me skeptical.

I wrote a blog about my research, but it's since been lost to the mist after photobucket and freewebs went down years ago.
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>>2857743
>yellow eye shine at the edge of woods
Bear.
And everything else you described is bear.
>t. Ga anon woth black bears on his property.
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>>2857752
Very possible, and I won't claim otherwise. It's like I want the phenomenon to be real, but logic and all science says it isn't... so I'd again say I'm just a skeptic.

I think a lot of the weird shit people claim to bigfoot is just them being inexperienced with the less common things in the woods they're surrounded by. Like imagine hearing this in the woods, by yourself, at night... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hipZukIHlnc

Scary as fuck but in no way paranormal.
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>>2857700
>>>/tg/
>>>/x/
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>>2857774
Most things can be explained

There have been multiple "famous" bears that walked around on 2 legs.
One was shot by a hunter and pissed off the local community.(i dont think pic is him).
Imagine youre out hiking and catch a glimpse of this thing through the trees from 100 yards away. Of course youre not going to think "its just a bear".
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>>2857752
When I was a kid, we'd camp on a beach on the side of the local lake. Every night we'd hear a crash in the woods and we'd freak out that it was a monster, or a hobo or some joker threw a rock into the woods trying to scare us.

Years later I learned that we had flying squirrels in the area, and that flying squirrels are crepuscular and I came to the conclusion we were in fact hearing less then elegant landings.
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>>2857840
Deer also do a lot of crashing around.
Fighting during the rut season scrubbing thw felt off their antlers.
Theu kill dozens of sapings every year just scrubbing their antlers at my place.
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>>2857840
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https://youtu.be/npswv7Zh8sg?si=gF_m-s1lnDQZyrWC
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>>2857907
We didn't have much dear back then. And this was just one crash and then dead silence.
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>>2858177
Branches break off and fall all the time. Think about all the dead fall cluttering the forest floor that snapped off 40+ feet in the air.



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