I am looking at a 10 day trip. Post your staples, your ideas and your critique. I think my breakfast is solid. I call it an oat bomb.>100g rolled oats, 20g whole milk powder, 20g desiccated coconut, 20g brown sugar, 10g chia seeds That's almost 750cal for breakfast. Prepared before the trip and ready to go as individually stored 170g dry mix in a zip bag.Lunch looks like this >2x 6inch flatbread, 100g dry aged salami, 60g hard cheddar cheese, 20g crushed pumpkin seed, 10g chia seedsThat's a 1000cal lunch, 6 inch bread because it fits in the frypan better meaning I can make a quesadilla by sealing both together with cheese, or I can make two smaller wraps. The crushed pumpkin and chia seeds end up in the melted cheese. Proper dry aged salami so that it lasts the trip and the cheese should be dry aged too, 'sharp' or 'vintage', cut in half and vacuum sealed. I am going with pumpkin seeds as they beat most nuts pound for pound and crushing them doesnt turn them into a butter type thing.Dinner;I am unsure what to do here. It wont be a heavy dinner it can be smaller than lunch. I am still pondering this one. Whatever I decide on will likely be a mix of the things I am already carrying. Possibly a mini pizza using the 6 inch flatbread.
looks good for a comfy trip where you don't spend lots of energy, have funi've only done 3 or 4 days but some other things i've done:canned lentilsramenregular pasta with tuna can and tomato saucealways carry energy bars, nuts (almonds or whatever mix you like) chocolate and some candy for snackssandwitch but out of real bread, with good things inside. there is no word in english
I would not want to eat the same things for 10 days straight. Try it at home first. You won’t get sick from deficiency after 10 days, but it will get boring
>>2856252is it a backpacking trip?desu I always bring the freeze dried mountain house type meals backpacking for convenience and light weight
>>2856299>>2856252Yeah, this is an important question.How many of those 10 days are you gonna be hiking and how many just camping?If you're gonna be on the move for the majority of the time then I'd be reaching for peanut butter, macadamia nuts and the most calorie dense dehydrated meals you can find. If you're driving or hiking for just a couple of days then setting up camp you have a lot more flexibility.
>>2856252If you're planning on carrying all that every day for 10 day backpacking, forget about it.>whole milk powderThis oxidizes the milk fat, presumably. Which is bad for you.Nonfat milk powder is harmless however.>DinnerThe add-hot-water dehydrated meal packs are a staple for a reason imo. Is recommend them.
>>2856297I invented the oat bomb because I went through a bad financial situation and I'm pretty autistic which is actually a benefit here because I like routine. It took a bit to get used to but that is what I eat for breakfast everyday now lol.>>2856299>>2856306>>2856314It is an off trail hiking trip where I am looking for rare orchids. I am expecting to move at a pace of 0.5k per hour which is 0.3 miles per hour. Not hard hiking slow moving and examining plants as I go. The total weight with food is just over 20% of my bodyweight but still under 25% it will be a hard one but I believe I can do it.
>>2856334I have not factored in dinner to my total weight but I am expecting to supplement my food with foraged goods. I will forage the berries and leaves of edible plants that are known to me as a snack. It is realistic that I could harvest 500g of berries per day.
>>2856335>>2856334>It is realistic that I could harvest 500g of berries per day.Really? If you say so. Even assuming the nutrient density of something like raspberries or blueberries that would still only be ~250cal/day. 10 days of dinner will be a not insignificant increase in weight. A bag of walnuts, brazil nuts and macadamias is about 650cal/100g. That's going to be your lightest option but I'd balk at eating 150g of nuts for dinner 10 days in a row.
>>2856347I would most likely have another kind of wrap for dinner and carry another 1kg of dry aged salami.
>>2856348Although this means my salt intake is pretty high. I will be sweating but not exhaustion level. Maybe actually.. higher cheese content + pumpkin and chia seeds with a 40g of salami. Obviously I dont want to spend all day picking berries but in this area the blackberries have taken over I have this hook harvester + a thin sheet so I can tear them off pretty quickly.
i hope that you don't go too far from civilization and you need a plan b. you don't want to find yourself with little food or water at day 5, farthest from any town or car
>>2856252where is your oil?simply add a bunch of olive oil to everything you eat, or tallow but I suppose it's somewhat messier.oils are really easy to add to meals without making them taste bad, especially healthier oils like some good olive oilget something that can soak up some oil, like your oats, add 60ml of oil to your morning oats, it will taste fatty but it's not bad at all, olive oil is quiet easy on the stomach and tastebudssome peanut butter with high peanut content will also help out(I like 80% peanut content more than 100% peanut content, 100% is too oily and it makes for messy eating)a roman soldier would often make do on bread, wine, and oilalso consider jerky, it's not extremely calorie dense but it is very nutrient dense which combined with carrying a lot of oil is easy peasy good nutrition
>>2856377I have an emergency beacon.>>2856386Thank you for reminding me I completely forgot. Yes olive oil is supposed to be part of this some how I forgot.
If your comfortable saying I would most interested in your Height, Age and Weight to do a TDEE calc to have some base estimate of how many calories you'd need daily to sustain.
>>2856397I'm 184cm, 32 and 78kg.
>>2856398Okay so everyday if you don't just lay in bed and move at all you burn around 2100 calories. For me I always try to run atleast a slight deficit on trips like this so your probably good if you can float somewhere between 2500-2700 a day with the activity level you've explained. Obviously you can run a deeper deficit for 10 days so don't worry if it seems unattainable I would just suggest trying to get atleast 2500 as you'll likely feel better and stronger for the entire trip that way.
>>2856398>>2856399Also desu at 23bmi you could also eat a bunch the week before you go and get closer to 25bmi so you have more baseline to waste off.
>>2856399Thanks I was vaguely aiming at 3k I will work off 2.5k
If I'm going on a long trip I take meal replacement shakes. Might as well take the diet variety in fact, lose some weight while camping. They certainly feel like I'm eating something, not drinking something, and are packed with vitamins/minerals. I can chuck a bag of it in my pack and have 14 full meals for hardly any space/weight. Then when I return I look like the picture of health from the nutrition, exercise, fresh air and good forest sleep. I keep thinking maybe I'll try military rations but no real need.
