What states don't have a mud season? Looking to go somewhere this spring but it seems like a lot of the cool states i was thinking have horrible mud seasons in spring apparently.
>>2861509mud seasons are sort of a thing of the past. back when winters were more snowy, and colder, you'd get them because you'd have months of constant snowmelt on top of spring rainsbut snow density is so low these days. i just checked the depth at my dad's place in central Maine and it's sitting at 10in, which is utterly pathetic for mid-Feburary. that's probably fully melted before the end of March.they're still a problem for rural places, particularly farms, as they're low and flat and have heavy machines churning it up. but it's not something you have to plan for in terms of hiking or fishing or whatever else, or at least no more than any place. if it rains a lot it'll get muddy, that's how she goes
>>2861521>mud seasons are sort of a thing of the past.
>>2861509There is nothing wrong with hiking in mud. t. live in the PNW
it depends more on surfacing than on the place imhoif you hike on a trail that's basically an abandoned railbed AND they've done nothing to maintain it since, it will be horrible mud, almost guaranteedbut good trails have drainage and culverts and stuff to prevent that>>2861526it basically traps you and you make incredibly slow progress and have to carefully mind your steps, it sucks
>>2861509Where are you located?
The desert. No mud. Spring and fall are usually the times to be there anyway as most people cant handle the summer.
>>2861534New England area
>>2861538Can't confirm. Live in the desert and there is a mud season here.
>>2861522i've lived in Maine and NH for 40 years and own a cottage business near Conway, NH. I remember what mud seasons were and used to look like, what they were like to clean after and walk to school in, and they'd last from March into May or June.nowadays it's maybe a two week period after the first big thaw.
>>2861532>it basically traps you and you make incredibly slow progress and have to carefully mind your steps, it sucksMeh I do it all the time. If you live in the PNW and refuse to hike in the mud, you will never hike.
>>2861564yeah, I've lived in the PNW for well over 40 years, the mud isn't going away son.
>>2861573Ok, so "mud season" actually has a specific definition, it does not just mean an area or time in which things get muddy. Obviously places and times of rain will result in mud.But a "mud season", the 5th season, etc., refers to times in which areas that received a lot of snow and has frozen earth since November is now thawing and getting rained on. It results in the ground being incredibly thick with mud with no drying, and not just a "oh my shoes are dirty" and more "the town closed this road and it'll cost taxpayers $600,000 to repair it before it'll open again". It's something that gets its own Wikipedia article.It's primarily a New England and Great Lakes thing. Areas like that PNW which have a Mediterranean climate and get a lot of rain but not a lot of snow or frost would not experience it.
>>2861576>the PNW doesn't get a lot of snowIn the mountains, where most hiking occurs, they get an absurd amount of snow. WA literally has the snowiest places on earth.
>>2861576Retard is from Maine and is telling people living next to the rocky's that they don't get a lot of snow kek
>>2861576>not a lot of snowwtf are you smoking?
>>2861584most people in the pnw live in the valleys where there is very little snowwhat I remember about the pnw is you could not fucking hike until june or july the snowpack was so ridiculous and persistent in the mountainsit was awfulin the east, here the snowpack fades usually by the 2nd or 3rd week in march reliably but in the cascades you can get snow in may even in the towns not just in the mountains and above 5000 ft there's snow into july.
>>2861585>what I remember about the pnw is you could not fucking hike until june or july the snowpack was so ridiculousSkill issue
>>2861586snowshoes blowim happy to live in the east where there's temperate hiking from march-november instead of just june-october
>>2861587>snowshoes blowThey do. That is why you learn to ski.
>>2861590snow in general just fucking blows and I will be glad when its all gone in march (tho yes it will exist at high elevations until late april)skiing is for rich people
>>2861576>It's primarily a New England and Great Lakes thingno. its anywhere that gets a lot of snow. mud season is a thing in the Rockies and very much a thing on the plains
>>2861585>waaa!!11 its too hard! WAAA!!11why are east-coastletts like this?
>>2861592>skiing is for rich peopleI am not rich. I ski tour all the time.
>>2861509Antarctica
>>2861543The eastern WV panhandle isn't terribly far from Southern New England via I-84 & I-81. That could be a worthwhile road trip during the NE mud season. I've been to Seneca Rocks and North Fork Mountain in the springtime. Trails were bone-dry and temps were comfy then. Dolly Sods on the other hand is a mudfest from what I've read. I've also had luck flying out to the desert southwest (AZ, NM, TX) during our mud season. The biggest issue I've encountered in April/May was the wind. Also look for non-hiking outdoor activities in your area. Gravel and road biking, whitewater rating, exploring waterfalls, fishing, and birdwatching are great in the spring. Camping is also in a sweet spot with more daylight hours than Nov-Feb and fewer bugs than June-Sept. Just gotta find a spot that isn't too muddy!
>>2861522definitely less snow in southern/middle appalachia than there used to be.
>>2861576>Areas like that PNW which have a Mediterranean climate
>>2861576>Areas like that PNW which have a Mediterranean climate and get a lot of rain but not a lot of snow or frost would not experience it.How uninformed are you? Are you proud of being this ignorant?
>>2861658thank god, fucking hate snow, i just arrived here in central appalachiarivers are upcome on by if you wanna see a waterfall, bring your yak trax or spikes
>>2861509central WA reporting in. don't come here. it's fucking horrible. I was about 2 days away from having things be tolerably dry, then we got about 3 inches of snow last night. sux man. I just love fixing my car's suspension every year.
