of my rifle malfunctioning in cold wet environment when a bear attacks me, should i carry a secondary?i want to do hardcore survival with hunting and everything but am too scared of bears
>>2861589Always bring a secondary in bear country.Preferably a hand cannon
>>2861668>44 magnumgross, especially considering smith has 460S&W (which can also fire 45 colt), and considering the .45 handgun bore has a wider selection of bullets for handloading
>>2861589What kind of bears? What kind of rifle?
>>2861686.45 is a worse round in all counts. It's got like a century on the .44. My shotgun fires both and I only keep that tube because of the tiny little .410s for around the house.
>>2861589very low chance of the rifle itself failing, they are made to be carried outdoors. make sure you know the ammo works well in your gun and is suitable for bearsyou need to have a ton of practice though because being attacked by a bear will 100x your bad habits and you don't want to not fully cycle it, drop the magazine, get it hung up on clothes, etc. you also will not have as much time to draw your gun as you likely imagine.>>2861686i can't ask the bears if they are feeling lucky unless i have a .44
>>2861876Why would you even respond to him? Hes posting a frog 15 years after frogs. And he doesn't know how to walk.
>>2861589Congratulations on discovering why þe olde tyme dangerous game hunters preferred double rifles.
>>2861589your first gun is your secondary defence. your first defence is common sense.Old bolt actions, double barrel shotguns (even tripple barrels, 2 shotgun 1 rifle) and revolvers rarely malfuntion.Its a reason big game hunters and their so called stopping rifles used in aftica and parts of asia are double barrel big calibre, you can only hope to fire two shots from the time you see a beast running at you so they make each of thoose two rounds capable of stopping and droppin it dead right there and they use a dead simple two barrel design that doesnt jam or fail.
>>2861952Also why (among other reasons) the remington 870 is the gun of choice for biologists and conservation officers who work in remote bear countrysimple to operate, can sit in the bottom of a boat for a month and still work, and if a 12 ga rifled slug at 40 feet can't stop a bear you're probably fucked anyways
>>2861589bayonet.
>>2861686muh handloads loldude if i am in bear country i am using fucking factory ammo ONLY in my large ass revolvers and or lever action rifles. do you REALLY want a squib situation to happen to you? like the range, hunting for the most part, bc i am a cool badass guy, etc are great reasons to handload. NOT when your fucking life is at stake, dumbass.
>>2861952someone must have that gif or webm of a guy walking through african bush and then something comes at him, you dont see what it is, it happends so fast>boom-boom from his double rifle>boom from his mates rifle>you hear a beast fall in the bush>he say something like "600 nitro express" or whatever as he reloads and giggles to the cameradressed like a typical boer or south african, speaking in boer english
>>2862918Based as fuckI wish double barrel rifles weren't so absurdly expensive
>>2862981drillings as its called here, two 12 gauge side by side with a single rifle shot usually 6,5 or 7,62 is very common for certain types of hunting here and not really expensive. you can load one barrel with a slug, buck or birdshots in the other and still have a long range powerfull rifle round available. all 3 will fire when needed but it takes time to reload. its the poormans h&h double stopping rifle. mostly used for big bird or deer hunting but can kill anything a 12g slug or 308 can.
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>>2862986ok that was a single 12g, they exist and is most common in double 12g
